The Litvinenko Inquiry
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<strong>The</strong> <strong>Litvinenko</strong> <strong>Inquiry</strong><br />
witness C2. Witness C2 was a cook at Il Porto and he told me that he wanted<br />
to go to England. I cannot say whether witness C2 is his first name or surname.<br />
Also, I do not know actually whether witness C2 ever went to England. I gave<br />
Dmitri the name without knowing exactly whether he was in fact in England. I<br />
cannot remember the exact words. Dmitri said that he had a very expensive<br />
poison and needed the cook to administer it to <strong>Litvinenko</strong>. I cannot remember<br />
whether Dmitri said he had the poison. I did not take seriously what Dmitri<br />
said. I thought it was just talk.<br />
Q: Try once more to remember the exact words?<br />
A: Kovtun said, ‘I need this cook to put poison in <strong>Litvinenko</strong>’s food or drink.’ He<br />
also said the poison is very expensive. As I have said already I did not take<br />
him seriously. I said to him he was crazy. <strong>The</strong> cook is married, I meant witness<br />
C2, it would be much easier to shoot <strong>Litvinenko</strong>, I said jokingly. Kovtun said<br />
after that, ‘It is meant to set an example.’ I answered that he should stop this<br />
nonsense. I asked him in addition why he told me of all people. I did not say<br />
anything more on this subject after that.<br />
Q: Did he say anything else on the way to the casino?<br />
A: He said he would soon have his own flat in Moscow. I replied that that would<br />
be nice and I could come and visit him there.”<br />
6.213 D3 added that he did not think that Mr Kovtun had been drunk at the time of this<br />
conversation. He said that Mr Kovtun had behaved normally for the rest of the evening.<br />
<strong>The</strong>y had spent only a short time at the casino and had then both gone back to sleep<br />
at D3’s flat. He said that Mr Kovtun had left early the next morning.<br />
6.214 D3 was subsequently asked again about this conversation at an interview with the<br />
German investigators in January 2007, 193 and again at the interview in September<br />
2010. 194 On both occasions, D3 gave the same basic account of this conversation.<br />
<strong>The</strong>re were some variations in what he said, but none were significant.<br />
6.215 D3 was also asked during both of these interviews why he had not given this account<br />
at the time of his first interview. He answered at some length. 195 In summary, he said<br />
that he had been – and remained – afraid to be involved in what he described as<br />
“this huge affair”. He said that initially he had hoped that the police “could solve this<br />
case alone”. His fears appear to have included a concern for his physical safety – for<br />
example, he said that he was worried that “something may also happen to me” –<br />
but he was clear that Mr Kovtun had never threatened him, including in at least one<br />
telephone conversation that had taken place since Mr <strong>Litvinenko</strong>’s death.<br />
6.216 Mr Kovtun provided a response to D3’s evidence in his statement dated 2 June 2015.<br />
He said: 196<br />
“I would add that during that meeting D-3 and his friend [D5] were smoking heroin;<br />
I was shocked to see D-3 doing this because he had never done it before. [D5]<br />
by contrast, is a heroin addict with a long record for using hard drugs. I was very<br />
pained by those circumstances. It is entirely possible that it was in fact the use of<br />
193<br />
Mascall 30/73-74<br />
194<br />
Mascall 30/83-92<br />
195<br />
Mascall 30/60-65; 30/108-112<br />
196<br />
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