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Jakob Lorber – The Great Gospel of John, vol. 5, part B<br />

[GGJ.05_180,02] Aziona says, ―But Hiram did not only see the light alone,<br />

but instead also the matter of the shapes as they are here! With which eyes<br />

did he see these?‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,03] John says, ―When we arrived today about three hours ago,<br />

you and another number of your neighbors were present; only Hiram was not<br />

there. When midday came, everyone hurried into these huts for the sake of a<br />

scant midday meal; only you remained to look after us. If Hiram had been<br />

among those who had received us here with you, you would have seen<br />

earlier how at times one can also see and perceive material forms with the<br />

spiritual eyes of the soul. But now that must be shown to you little by little; for<br />

it now depends on the old saying that Rome was not built in a day.‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,04] Aziona asks, ―Yes, dear, wisest friend, but why would I<br />

have seen that earlier if Hiram had also been present at your arrival?‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,05] John says, ―Yes, you know, all that has its own very wisest<br />

ways! Hiram would have immediately recognized us as those whom he had<br />

seen in his dream of light, and then our conversation would certainly have<br />

immediately gone in another direction, and we would then obviously have got<br />

to talk about this point earlier. But now we have only come upon it later, and<br />

so for quite natural reasons you can also only get behind this secret only<br />

later!‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,06] Aziona says, ―Yes, that is certainly something quite<br />

natural; for everything in the world is so! The later one begins a task that<br />

demands a particular time period, the later one is finished with it!‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,07] John says, ―But there is another reason here that you<br />

cannot see so quickly yet; but with time however you will then see it clearly,<br />

only you have to above all acquire a little more patience! For only with<br />

patience can one finally conquer the whole world inside and outside of one‘s<br />

being.‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,08] Aziona says, ―Patience, truly is not my weak point – for<br />

there was always a great lack of it; but if it must be so, then I can also be<br />

patient!‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,09] John says, ―You actually wanted to say that patience is not<br />

your strong side, but really only a very weak side for you, which soon and<br />

easily gives way, - isn‘t that true, my friend Aziona?‖<br />

[GGJ.05_180,10] Aziona says, ―You don‘t need to seek appropriate<br />

knowledge of the language among us; for we speak only according to the<br />

only speech customs, and that is, as far as meaning is concerned, almost<br />

everywhere somewhat different. But because you have just spoken to us<br />

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