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giorgi sakaruli
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jer mxolod 26 wlisaa. rogorc
ityvian, win mTeli cxovreba aqvs da bevri gamowveva elo-
deba, _ sasiamovnoc da usiamovnoc. garTobas saqme amjobina
da did aurzaurSi Seyo fexi. ambobs, rom yvelaferi, rac Cven
garSemo xdeba, politikaa da swored amitom gadawyvita lei-
boristuli partiis lideris, Salva naTelaSvilis Svilma, beqa
naTelaSvilma, sakuTri bedi politikaSi ecada.
mamasaviT energiuli da mizan-
dasaxuli beqa mcxeTa-mTianeTSi
leiboristuli partiis maJori-
tari deputatobis kandidatia.
„es is adgilia, sadac erTi
wlis win xelisuflebis zonder-
brigadebi dagvipirispirdnen da
swored am adgilidan minda, mcxeTa-mTianeTSi
maJoritari dep-
utatobis kandidatad sakuTari
Tavi warvadgino da swored am
axalgazrdebTan erTad Semoviaro
TiToeuli sofeli, TiToeuli
qalaqi da aq mcxovreb adami-
anebs vuTxra, rom jer kidev
arsebobs imedi, qveynidan gaqceva
ar aris xsna, soflebis dac-
la, skolebis daxurva ar aris
gamosavali”, _ es sityvebi beqa
naTelaSvilma sakuTari kandidaturis
dayenebis Semdeg war-
moTqva da saarCevno kampania
aqtiurad daiwyo.
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igi darwmunebulia, rom
xalxs axalgazrda Taoba da me-
same Zala sWirdeba. Tu ra
aZlevs amis Tqmis uflebas? vis
miiCnevs konkurentad? iTval-
iswinebs Tu ara mamis rCevebs? _
am da sxva saintereso detaleb-
is Sesaxeb „qronika+~-s beqa
naTelaSvili esaubreba:
_ beqa, ratom gadawyviteT
politikaSi mosvla?
_ ase xelaRebiT politikaSi
wasvla ar gadamiwyvetia. Ti-
Toeuli adamianis cxovreba aris
politika da Cven garSemo rac
xdeba, yvelaferi politikaa. is,
rom raRac gvawuxebs, gvixaria an
gvinda, rom gaumjobesdes, am yvelafers
politika awesrigebs.
mgonia, rom raRac doziT yvela
adamiani CarTulia politikaSi,
ubralod, Cem SemTxvevaSi ise
moxda, rom meti doziT momiwia
CarTuloba, vidre sxvas, radgan
aqamdec Cemi yoveldRiuri cxovreba
dakavSirebuli iyo politikasTan
da zogadad politikosis
ojaxSi gavizarde. vfiqrob,
adekvaturad aRviqvam qveyanaSi
Seqmnil mdgomareobas. Zalian
mniSvnelovania axalgazrdebis
wasvla da gaaqtiureba politika-
Si. sxvanairad qveyana ara mgonia,
ganviTardes.
_ Tqveni es gadawyvetileba
ojaxisTvis ramdenad moulod-
neli aRmoCnda?
_ 2011 wlidan politikaSi
viyavi, partiis saerTaSoriso
mdivani gaxldiT da var, ucxoeT-
Tan da dasavleTTan komunikacias,
Sexvedrebsa da vizitebs me
vakeTeb, am yvelaferSi var
CarTuli, Tumca satelevizio
sivrceSi didad aqamde ar vCandi.
ar vaqtiurobdi iqamde, sanam bi-
Zina ivaniSvili ar gadawyvetda
proporciuli sistemis Cagdebas
da Cvens motyuebas. Sesabamisad,
daviwye sajarod aqtiuri gamosvlebi
da gavediT quCaSi. gamosavali
dRevandel mdgomareoba-
Si aris xmis amaRleba da es Sesa-
Zlebelia gareT gasvliT, gaprotestebiT
da diskomfortis SeqmniT,
rasac Cven vakeTebdiT ukanaskneli
erTi wlis ganmavloba-
Si.
_ beqa, Tqven rom kandidatura
daasaxeleT,
paralelurad
amuSavda trolebis qarxana da
mavani cdilobda Savi piaris ago-
rebas. mokled, Tqveni misamarTiT
bevri uaryofiTi mesiji iwerebo-
da. ramdenad mZafrad aRiqviT da
aRiqvamT zogadad am yvelafers
da rogor reagirebT am dros?
_ simarTle giTxraT, am yvelafers
Cemze ar umoqmedia. iq
vinc werda uSver sityvebs, am
komentarebis avtorebi, Ziri-
Tadad, arian „qarTuli ocnebis”
aqtivistebi, aseve sajaro samsaxurebSi
dasaqmebuli pirebi, romlebic
Tavs valdebulad miiCneven,
rom „qarTuli ocnebis” nebismieri
binZuri saqme gaamarTlon.
meore jgufs ganekuTvnebian
feiqmomxmareblebi, romelic
sakmaod didi raodenobiT hyavs
„qarTul ocnebas” da mesame jgufia
„patriotTa aliansis” feiqebi
da aqtivistebi. es sami kategoria
iyo, ZiriTadad, romelic
gamoirCeoda didi agresiuobiT
da amaze namdvilad ar maqvs reaqcia,
piriqiT, msgavsi Sinaarsis
komentarebi ufro did motivacias
maZlevs. yovel SemTxvevaSi,
yvela Zalian kargad vxedavT,
rom „qarTul ocnebas” gadawyvetili
aqvs, sxvis diskreditaciaze
aagos Tavisi politika da
xalxi Zalian kargad xedavs am
yvelafers.
_ mcxeTa-mTianeTSi iyriT
kenWs. ratom maincdamainc es
regioni da ramdenad kargad
icnobT iqaur problemebs?
_ pirvel rigSi imitom, rom
warmoSobiT aqedan var, aq gavizarde
da cxovrebis udidesi periodi
aq maqvs gatarebuli. Sesabamisad,
vicnob aqaur xalxs, vici,
ra problemebis winaSe dganan isini
da CemTvis Zalian axlobelia
es regioni. aq axalgazrdebi yvelaze
naklebad arian da Ziri-
Tadad asakovani xalxi darCa, amitom
yvelas minda vuTxra, rom
gaqceva ar aris gamosavali da
aqac SeiZleba davrCeT, vibrZoloT
da Cven TviTon SevcvaloT
is realoba, rac ar mogvwons da
gamovasworoT. dRes rom quCaquCa
davdivar da adamianebs vxvdebi,
Zalian nihilisturad arian
ganwyobilebi zogadad politikosebis
mimarT da aRar aqvT
imedi arc erTi politikosisa da
partiis mimarT. axalgazrdebs
Sescqerian imedis TvaliT. swored
imiT ganvsxvavdebi sxva kandidatebisgan,
rom axalgazrda
var, warsulSi maTTvis araferi
momityuebia, araferi damiSavebia,
ar maqvs piradi interesebi, ar
vapireb parlamentarobas imitom,
rom Cemi biznesis xelSeuxebloba
uzrunvelvyo da mTavari is
aris, rom am adamianebs imedi
mieceT politikosebis mimarT.
_ ndobis faqtori ramdenad
eqnebaT? Tqven xom Zalian axal-
gazrda xarT da pirvel nabijebs
axla dgamT did politikaSi?
beqa naTelaSvili:
`Cemi konkurenti
am arCevnebze
finansuri
resursi iqneba~
_ Cem mimarT ufro meti
ndobis faqtori aqvT, vidre im
„gacveTili” politikosebis mimarT,
romlebic yovel wels dadian
wreze da axal-axal dapirebebs
iZlevian.
_ saidan gamomdinare ambobT
imas, rom xalxi gendobaT?
_ xalxis damokidebulebiT
vxvdebi. ar undaT gagoneba arc
Zveli xelisuflebis, arc amaTi
da mesame Zalas elis xalxi. es
Zala kidev unda iyos axali Taoba,
momavali Taoba da axalgazrdebi.
xundaZe aviRoT, qucnaSvili
_ 8 wlis ganmavlobaSi es adamianebi
regionSi ar gamoCenilan.
imedi unda mivceT xalxs, rom
raRaca Seicvleba.
_ Tqvensave regionSi uko-
nkurento kandidati xarT?
_ ara, ra Tqma unda. sxva opoziciuri
partiebidanac arian konkurentebi,
romlebsac did pativs
vcem, aseve aris saxelisuflebo
partiis warmomadgeneli
da konkurencia didia. vfiqrob,
Cemi konkurenti am arCevnebze
iqneba finansuri resursi, romelic
sakmaod mravlad aqvs saxelisuflebo
partias da maT Soris
cezar CoCels, romelic „Zala
erTobaSias” mxardaWerili
kandidatia am regionSi. cezar
CoCeli am regionis minioligarqia
da yovel arCevnebze gamoirCeva
xmebis yidviT. msgavsi tipis
oligarqebi sargebloben xa-
lxis siduxWiriT da maTi gaWirvebiT.
me amomrCevelTan sul sxva
dapirebebiT mivdivar da vinc
xmas momcems, is ar miscems xmas
arc saxelisuflebo partias da
arc minioligarq cezar CoCels.
_ Tqveni dapireba ra aris?
_ dawesdes minimaluri saxelfaso
zRvari, rom adamianebma 300
larze ar imuSaon srul ganakveTze
yoveldRe _ es aris
mTavari da evropuli praqtika,
rasac me Cems amomrCevels namdvilad
vpirdebi da batoni CoCeli,
romelic weRan vaxsene, ramdenime
kompaniis mflobelia, biznesmeni,
romelsac xalxi hyavs
dasaqmebuli da maTi xelfasebi
Seadgens 250 da 300 lars. vis
sjera, rom CoCeli isurvebs
dasaqmebuli adamianebis xelfasebis
gazrdas? samwuxarod, dRes
saqarTveloSi savalalo mdgomareoba
gvaqvs, rom 150 parlamentis
wevridan 41 aris milioneri
da dRevandel 2020 wlis saparlamento
siebsac Tu gadavxedavT,
ar wyveten milionerebi da oligarqebi
politikaSi mosvlas.
_ rogori molodini gaqvT?
_ pozitiuri, sxvnairad saarCevno
kampanias ar Cavatrebdi.
imedi maqvs, rom amomrCevlebi
mivlen arCevnebze. maRali aqtivobis
pirobebSi xelisuflebis
gamarjveba SeuZlebelia.
_ rogor fiqrobT, mamis
Crdilidan SeZlebT gamosvlas?
_ es damokidebulia cnobadobaze.
dRes Salva naTelaSvils yvela
icnobs. Tu SevZeli imdeni, rom
Cemi saxeli davtovo am qveyanaSi,
ra Tqma unda, individualurad
beqa naTelaSvili viqnebi.
_ Zalian bevri welia, rac
mamaTqveni, Salva naTelaSvili,
qarTul politikaSia. rogor
SeafasebdiT mis politikur
karieras?
_ sakmaod pozitiurad. Cven ar
vyofilvarT arasdros xelisuflebaSi,
arasdros gvqonia imis
berketi, rom raRac Zireuli
cvlilebebi mogvexdina, Tumca
Salvas aqcentebi yovelTvis iyo
swori da adekvaturi. vfiqrob,
rom istoria ufro kargad Seafasebs
Salvas politikur saqmianobas,
vidre _ me.
_ rCevebs Tu gaZlevT da ram-
denad iTvaliswinebT?
_ amayi var imiT, rom aqamde ra
gadawyvetilebac mimiRia, mxolod
damoukideblad da yovel-
Tvis ar viTvaliswineb mis rCevebs.
roca raRacas meubneba, sapirispiros
vakeTeb da kamaTi
mogvdis xolme.
_ ratom?
_ CemiT minda, rom gavakeTo da
Cems Secdomebze mirCevnia CemiTve
viswavlo da gamovasworo
yvelaferi. gaaCnia sakiTxebs,
Torem zogadad viTvaliswineb da
xSirad vusmen xolme, Semdeg CemiT
viReb gadawyvetilebas.
_ damarcxebis SemTxvevaSi
kvlav apirebT, rom gaagrZeloT
aqtiuri politikuri cxovreba?
_ ar maqvs iseTi ambicia, rom
arCevnebze pirvelive monawileobaze
cidan varskvlavebs movwyvet.
optimisturad var ganwyobili
da sxva danarCeni ra iqneba
da rogor, amas dro gvaCvenebs.
Cemi politikuri kariera didi
xnis win daiwyo da ase gagr-
Zeldeba yovelTvis.
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