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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comrealuri mizezebi, ris gamoc giorgixalxi dainaxavs, rom aseTistrategia arsebobs da arCevaniunda gaakeTos _ saqmis keTeba,romelsac Cven vTavazobT, Tu„ocnebis” tyuilebi?xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebigamodian da amboben, Cveni mTavaridamsaxureba xalxze zrunvaaoda am dros xedav, rom regionSiyvelaze meti mSieri adamiani saqarTveloSicxovrobs, anu mosaxleobis8,2 procenti, ubralod, mSieriada es monacemi somxeTzesamjer metia, rac nonsensia. somxeTssazRvao gasasvleli ar aqvsda misi ekonomikac yovelTvis Cvenzeukan iyo, magram axla gagviswro.azerbaijansa da sxva qveynebzeaRarafers vambob.ai, aseT realobaSi vcxovrobTda TiToeulma adamianma unda gadawyvitos,im tyulebis, rasac„ocneba” ambobs, sjera Tu ara!„ocneba” imasac ambobs, rom misimizani TiTqos usafrTxoebaa, magram2019 wels danaSaulis maCvenebeliorjer gaizarda, gaxsnismaCvenebeli ki amdeniveTi Semcirda_ 40 aTasi mZime danaSaulisCamdeni Tavisufalia imitom, romsaqmeebi gamouZiebelia da, Sesabamisad,damnaSaveebi dadgenilni ararian!warmogidgeniaT, ra mdgomareobaSivarT?_ ki ar warmomidgenia, yvelaubedurebas, razedac saubrobT,mec vxedav, Tumca „ocneba” arcsiRaribes aRiarebs da arc _kriminalis zrdas. ai, mmarTvelipartiis saparlamento siis oceulisprezentaciaze, mgoni, ivaniSvilmaganacxada, yvelaferi kargadaa,magram Cven is xelisufle-partia „kanoni da samarTlis”giorgi abaSiZelideris, saburTalos maJoritarobiskandidat Tako Carkvi-anis kovidinficirebis gamo „strategia aRmaSeneblis”saarCevno kampaniaSi garkveuli koreqtireba Sevida, Tumcablokis lideri, premierobis kandidati giorgi vaSaZe, ambobs,rom axal meqanizmebs SeimuSaveben da xalxTan komunikaciasar gawyveten. amasTan, giorgi vaSaZe „qronika+”-sTan ramden-ime skandalur gancxadebas akeTebs. kerZod, is im mizezebze,ris gamoc man da Tako Carkvianma „Zala erTobaSia” datoves,eqskluziurad Cvens gamocemasTan saubrobs da „nacmoZrao-bis” e. w. anklavur liderebs seriozul braldebebs uyenebs.kerZod, vaSaZe sajarod pirvelad acxadebs, rom yofilimmarTveli partiis anklavuri liderebi qveynis ganviTareba-ze ki ara, imaze arian orientirebulni, parlamentSi rogorSevidnen da Tanamdebobebi rogor daikavon.mokled, „qronika+~ gTavazobTskandalur intervius „strategiaaRmaSeneblis” liderTan, premier-ministrobiskandidat gior-gi vaSaZesTan:_ batono giorgi, upirvelesad,gilocavT, rom kovidinfeq-cia ar dagidasturdaT. ise, dain-ficirebulTa ricxvis zrdaarCevnebis moaxloebas saeWvoddaemTxva, anu zogi ambobs, maso-brivi testireba „ocnebas” gazaf-xulze rom daewyo, maSinac aseTistatistika iqneboda, magram far-TomasStabiani testireba SemodgomazemizanmimarTulad dai-wyo, raTa arCevnebis dRis wesrig-Si garkveuli koreqtivebi Seit-anoso. am mosazrebas iziarebT?_ namdvilad ar vici, am kuTxiT„ocnebas” ra gegma da startegiaaqvs, magram erTmniSvnelovnad vambob,rom xelisuflebis yvelagancxadeba arCevnebzea orientirebuli.sxvaTa Soris, albaT, gaxsovT,rom masobriv testirebas,jer kidev, gazafxulze viTxovdi,rac, samwuxarod, ar moxda. masobrivitestireba axlac ar tardeba._ ra vici, amiran gamyreliZeambobs, dReSi 8 aTas adamiansvtestavTo da amaze meti maso-brivi raRa unda iyos?_ ai, magaliTad, Tqven rom gindodeT,testirebas ver CaitarebT._ ratom?_ infrastruqtura araa momzadebulida amitom. ver ityvian,rom axla krizisul situaciasmarTaven. krizisi martSi, aprilsada maisSi iyo, dRes ki yvelaferiorganizebuli menejmentis Temaa.krizisuli situacia ra SuaSia,roca amdeni Tvea ician, rom Sesa-Zloa, am problemis winaSe davmdgariyaviTda imisTvis, rom yvelaferikargad emarTaT, organizebuladunda momzadebuliyvnen,magram dRes isev infrastruqturisada testirebis problemaa. martivkiTxvas vsvam: zafxulSi vinmemkoronasTan dakavSirebiT sainformaciokampania naxa, virusirogor unda SegvezRuda?_ kampaniisa ra giTxraT, magramepidemiologebi mudmivad mogviwodeben,rom rekomendaciebs dav-emorCiloT _ xelebi xSiraddavibanoT da socialuri distan-cia davicvaT..._ diax, es mesmis, magram erTaderTi,rac prevenciis mizniT gakeTda,sazRvrebis daketva iyo.dRes ki, roca ukve amdeni inficirebuligvyavs, iqneb, vinmemamixsnas, sazRvrebis daketvas raazri hqonda? _ inficirebulTaraodenoba yoveldRe ormagdeba,rac imas niSnavs, rom virusi masobrivadaagavrcelebuli._ hoda, batono giorgi, „oc-nebam” yvelaferi es, iqneb, immizniT gaTvala, rom saarCevnokampania daiwyeboda Tu ara,lokaluri lokdaunebi gamoecx-adebina da amiT opoziciisTvisxeli SeeSala?_ SeiZleba, magram simarTlerom vTqvaT, koronis meore tal-RiT „ocneba” saSinlad dazaraldeba!_ amas ris safuZvelze ambobT?_ „ocnebis” saSineli araprofesionalizmida ucodinaroba premierisori dRis win gakeTebuligancxadebidanac gamoCnda._ anu?_ gaxarias etyoboda, rom dabneuliiyo _ im wuTas miRebulgadawyvetilebebze saubrobda danamdvilad ar etyoboda, rom meoreSemotevisTvis mzad iyo!yvelam kargad viciT, rom araprofesionalebTangvaqvs saqme.viRacam gaxaria profesionaladimitom miiCnia, rom pirveli tal-Ris dros gagvimarTla da koroniTdainficirebuli cota iyo.madloba RmerTs, rom bevri gardacvlilicar gvyavs, magram esaraprofesionalizmi axla Tanda-Tan iCens Tavs. „ocneba” cdilobs,rom is plusi, rac pirveli tal-Ris dros hqonda, ar dakargos _misi reitingi Zalian dabali iyo,magram koroniT reklama gaikeTada reitingma aiwia. axla ki isevukan wavida. amitom xelisuflebacdilobs, sazogadoeba daarwmunos,rom epidviTareba kontrolirebadida marTvadia.sxvaTa Soris, qalbatoni marinaezugbaia Zalian kargi specialistia,magram gamikvirda, rocaTqva, mTavrobis Zalian magarmamoqmedebebma gadagvarCinao. armgonia, eqimebis mier xelisuflebisTvisgundrukis kmeva swori iyos.amitom medikosebs vTxov, romaseTi gancxadebebisgan Tavi Seikavon!mTavrobis efeqtiani moqmedebebiras niSnavs? _ xom geubnebiT,rom moindomoT, tests ver gaikeTebT..._ e. i., imis Tqma gindaT, rommiTi, korona „ocnebis” mTavarisaarCevno mokavSireao, imsxvreva?_ diax, asea, radgan sul romTavi gaigiJon, araprofesionalizmsada ucodinarobas ver damalaven!_ asea Tu ise, msofliosi ariyos, Cveneburi politikac ko-ronaze gadis. Sesabamisad, amkuTxiT xelisuflebis mier daS-`nacmoZraobis~ anklavuriliderebisTvis mTavariparlamentSi Sesvlaa da ara _qveyanaSi siRaribis damarcxeba!~vebuli Secdomebi opoziciamrogor unda gamoiyenos, miTumetes, im dros, roca arCevnebikarsaa momdgari?_ gamoyeneba ara, magram am Temebzegarkveul gancxadebas gavakeTeb,anu rogorc wina krizisisdros, axlac aseTi aqtiuri viqnebi.saerTod, iciT, Cvensa da „ocnebas”Soris gansxvaveba ra aris?_ ra?_ Cven yovelTvis strategia dagegma gvaqvs, „ocneba” ki qaosuradmoqmedebs._ da koronakrizisTan dakav-SirebiT Tqveni strategia rogo-ria?_ jer erTi, swrafi testireba,radgan inficirebulebi swrafadgamovlindnen da virusis lokalizebaswrafad moxdes, anu Tavdacvaki ara, Seteva, rac Zalian mniSvnelovania,Tumca dRes isev TavdacvisreJimSi varT; da meore:mcire da saSualo bizness Zaliandidi mxardaWera unda gaewios _xelisuflebam fuli Tavis korufciulkompaniebs ki ar undagadauricxos, aramed mcire da sa-Sualo bizness realurad daexmaros,radgan yvelaferi gakotrebuliada bankebi Tu mikrosafinansokompaniebi xalxs qonebas arTmeven!ai, axla swored amis gaCerebaaaucilebeli._ yvelam viciT, rom „ocneba”bankebTan kolaboraciaSia da ratomggoniaT, rom Tqvens strate-gias yurad iRebs da am umZimesikrizis dros bankebis ki ara, mo-saxleobis gverdiT dadgeba?_ amis iluzia arc maqvs, magram`me da Tako Carkvianma miviReT gadawyvetileba, romzurgs ukan da farul situaciaSi Widaobas, racCveni saqme araa, sjobda, sajaro politikaSigadavsuliyaviT da kuluarebs movSorebodiT!~6 N20 (322) 15.09-21.09.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comvaSaZem `Zala erTobaSia~ datova!ba ar varT, miRwevebiT vitrabax-oTo. mokled, „ocneba” sxva realobaSicxovrobs da, batono gior-gi, xalxs rogor unda daajeroT,rom realoba iseTi araa, rogorsac„qocebi” xataven da xelisu-fleba aucileblad Sesacvlelia?_ xalxis amaSi darwmunebaZalian martivia._ mainc, rogor?_ iciT, rom „strategia aRmaSenebeli”hiperaqtiuria da mosaxleobasTanZalian bevri Sexvedraaqvs. koronavirusis am talRisgamo Sexvedrebze, albaT, cotaproblema gveqneba, magram xalxTankontaqts mainc ar gavwyvetT damas mudmivad yvelafers avuxsniT.„ocnebas” unda, rom erT karSiiTamaSos _ Tavisi televizia aqvs,„imedi”, sadac xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebigamodian da saocrebebslaparakoben. ai, magaliTad,ramdenime dRis win erT gadacemasvuyure da SokSi viyavi._ ratom?_ sabWoTa periodi ar maxsovs,magram imdenad sxva realobas xataven,rom komunistebsac ki SeSurdebodaT,magram xalxi am virtualurrealobas xmas ar miscems!adamianma, romelsac am televiziidaneubnebian, yvelaferi kargadaao,ar icis, puri rogor iyidosda Svilebs saWmeli rogor miutanos.amitom yvelafer amas xalxiSecvlis!_ vnaxoT, 31 oqtombers ra darogor iqneba, magram, batonogiorgi, erTia, roca xelisufleba,anu rogorc eZaxiT, damsx-vreuli ocnebebis partia gebrZ-viT _ Tqvens erT Tanagundelspiradi cxovrebis kadrebis gavr-celebiT aSantaJebdnen, sxvas kifizikurad gauswordnen, magrammeorea, roca xelisuflebasTanerTad opoziciac gipirispirde-baT. yovel SemTxvevaSi, sxva opo-ziciuri partiebis liderebi Tuaqtivistebi socialur qselSiTqven mimarT, minimum, sarkazmiTsaubroben. amas riT xsniT?_ Cveni mzardi reitingiT!samwuxarod, „nacionaluri mo-Zraobis” mxardamWerebi ki ara,liderebi sakuTar TavSi Caketilebiarian da sakuTari Tavisa daidea-fiqsis iqiT, rom xelisuflebaSiunda movidnen da Tanamdebobebsdaepatronon, verafers xedaven!ai, mTavari problemacswored esaa._ „nacmoZraobas” bevri liderihyavs. vis gulisxmobT?_ saxelebisa da gvarebis dasaxelebaar minda. lokalurad yvelasvgulisxmob, vinc mediiT aqtiuradCans. am adamianebma, CemiaraerTi mcdelobis miuxedavad,ver gaiazres, rom gamaerTianeblebi,Semkreblebi unda iyvnen da ara_ damqsaqsvelebi da mTvari opoziciuripartiis rols CaWidebulebi!amitomac vambob, rom „nacionalurimoZraoba” ver iqneba mTavariopoziciuri partia, yovelSemTxvevaSi, am liderebiT es gamoricxulia!gamarjvebis mTavarimowinaaRmdege TviTon „nacmoZraoba”gaxda! es realobaa _ Cem winaaRmdegibrZvian da ara _ „qarTuliocnebis”. roca arc erT imSeTanxmebas ar asruleben, romelicsxva opoziciur partiebTandades, raze unda vilaparakoT?politikasa da yoveldRiur cxovrebaSicsityvis gamtexs ndobaar aqvs. dRes „nacionalurimoZraoba” aseTia._ batono giorgi, roca „nacmoZoZraobas” sityvis gamtexs uw-odebT, mixeil saakaSvilsac gu-lisxmobT? sxvaTa Soris, oriwlis win saakaSvili Tqvenze am-bobda, kargi premieri iqnebao..._ samwuxarod, mixeil saakaSvilma,romelsac SeeZlo, CemiazriT, qarTul politikaSi gamaerTianeblisada mZlavri zurgisroli eTamaSa, airCia da im gzasgahyva, romelic misma lokalurmada Seumdgarma politikosebmaukarnaxes! Zalian vwuxvar, rom esarCevani gaakeTa! sxvaTa Soris,amaze masTan saubari araerTxelmqonia, magram regionis liderisnacvlad sakuTari Tavis lokalizebaZalian mZime formiT gaakeTada esec realobaa!_ Cems xelT arsebuli infor-maciiT, „Zala erTobaSiasTan”Tqveni konfliqti imiT daiwyo,rom es gaerTianeba proporciulsiaSi kaxa oqriaSvilis Casmas geg-mavda, im oqriaSvilisa, romlismedikamentebis monopoliur bi-zneszec „startegia aRmaSenebelma”gazafxulze skandaluri kvl-eva moamzada. am kuluarul cnobasmidasturebT, batono gior-gi?_ gulwrfelad da pirdapirgetyviT, rom es erTaderTi mizeziar iyo, Tumca, maT Soris, erTerTimizezi am xalxTan molaparakebaciyo. saerTod, mizezi isstrategia gaxldaT, Tu rogorxedavdnen movlenebis ganviTarebas„nacmoZraobis” lokaluri daanklavuri liderebi. maTTvis mTavaria,rom parlamentSi Sevidnenda ara _ is, rom qveyanaSi siRaribedavamarcxoT! maTTvis mTavaria,Tu vin moxvdeba gamsvlel siaSi daara _ is, rom qveyana im ukiduresadmZime viTarebidan gamoviyvanoT,romelSic ivaniSvilis damsxvreuliocnebebis partiam Cagvagdo.Sesabamisad, strategiulad,kampaniis saxiT, yvela is Sinaarsi,rasac maTgan viRebdi, absoluturadmiuRebeli iyo. amitomac meda Tako Carkvianma miviReT gadawyvetileba,rom zurgs ukan dafarul situaciaSi Widaobas, racCveni saqme araa, sjobda, sajaropolitikaSi gadavsuliyaviT da kuluarebsmovSorebodiT!_ ise, „nacionalebi” siebTandakavSirebiT braldebas Tqvengiyeneben da amboben, rom gamsv-lel proporciul siaSi TiTqosaTi adgili moiTxoveT..._ imdenad iaffasianebi arian,rom esec aradamajerebelia._ ukacravad, aradamajerebeliratomaa?_ yvela SeTanxmeba, romelicdadebuli iyo, daarRvies, maTSoris, yvelaze didi SeTanxmebac,romelSic sxvebic monawileobdnen._ isnis maJoritarul olqsgulisxmobT?_ diax, oRond am SemTxvevSikovzi nacarSi CauvardaT, radganam SeTanxmebas sxva monawileebichyavs, romlebic sajarod amboben,razedac SevTanxmdiT. SeTanxmebisdarRvevaSi yvela maT adanaSaulebs.saerTod, saxelis gatexasTavis gatexa sjobs, „nacmoZraobam”ki, rogorc mTavari gzavnili,swored saxelis gatexa airCia!_ yvelafer aqedan gamom-dinare, xom ar geCvenebaT, rom„nacionaluri moZraoba” arCevnebSigamarjvebisTvis ki ara, mTa-vari opoziciuri Zalis statusisSesanarCuneblad ibrZvis?_ diax, raRac aseTia. idea-fiqsigauCnda, rom mTavari opoziciuripartioba magaria, magram esqveyanas ar uSvelis. misgan rameprograma an gegma mogismeniaT?„strategia aRmaSeneblis” proeqtigasuli wlis pirvel oqtombersdaviwyeT, magram boikoti gamouc-xades da monawileoba erTi programisSemuSavebaSic ar miiRes. qalbatoniTako da sxvebic absoluturSokSi iyvnen, _ xalxo, rogoriqceviTo?! realoba esaa _ Tvi-Ton arafers akeTeben da sxvamacaraferi unda gaakeTos, oRondkidev erTxel vimeoreb: im anklavurda viwro partiul liderebzevsaubrob, romlebic „nacmoZraobaSi”arian, Torem „nacmoZraobas”sxva Sinaarsi aqvs damis yvela mxardamWers Zalian kargadvicnob._ ise, maSinac, ramdenime wliswin, roca „nacmoZraoba” datoveT,es anklavuri liderebi gebrZod-nen?_ diax, ase iyo. samwuxarod, amasmeored SeveCexe... megona, romgavasworebdi, magram erTxel„qarTul ocnebaze” vTqvi da am`strategia aRmaSenebeli~ gamarjvebis is mTvari xerxemali iqneba,romelzedac axali xelisufleba aewyoba da romelic qveynisaRmSeneblobis process daiwyebs. rac Seexeba dRes arsebul opoziciurpartiebs, yvelafer imis miuxedavad, rasac `nacmoZraobis~ liderebiakeTeben, am partiis mxardamWerebi am aRmSeneblobis mTavarimonawileebi iqnebian. piradad me ki vapireb, rom am koaliciurimmarTvelobis premier-ministri gavxde!~SemTxvevaSic igivea, rom kuzianssamaris meti veraferi gaasworebs.yovel SemTxvevaSi, praqtikulad,ase gamodis._ hoda, erT mdinareSi meoredSesvliT, anu 2018 wels opozici-uri gaerTianeba „nacmoZraobasTan”erTad rom SeqmeniT, Sec-doma xom ar dauSviT?_ warsulze „Cacikvla” ar miyvars._ ukacravad, es ra SuaSia?_ me yovelTvis momavalzevfiqrob da amitomac ar vTvli,rom Secdoma davuSvi! 2018 welsmec, qalbatonma Takom da saer-Tod, yvelam vaCveneT, rom 10, 12,15 Tu Tundac 17-procentian mxardaWeraSiCaketvaze gacilebiTdidi perspeqtiva arsebobs. sxva-Ta Soris, 2017 wlis adgilobriviTviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi es17 procenti „nacmoZraobam” didivaivaglaxiT miiRo. mokled, xomiciT, cda bedis monaxevreao daCvenc SevecadeT, magram maT esperspeqtiva ver dainaxes da isevviwro anklavuri gza airCies._ bolos, batono giorgi, miTxariT,31 oqtombrisgan ras elo-debiT?_ 31 oqtombers opoziciuri Zalebisdid gamarjvebas velodebi!_ Tundac Tqveni saubridan kideverTxel gamoCnda, rom opoz-iciuri Zalebi Zalian Wrelia.amitom konkretulad miTxariT,piradad Tqven, ras elodebiT?_ „strategia aRmaSenebeli” gamarjvebisis mTvari xerxemali iqneba,romelzedac axali xelisuflebaaewyoba da romelic qveynis aRm-Seneblobis process daiwyebs. racSeexeba dRes arsebul opoziciurpartiebs, yvelafer imis miuxedavad,rasac „nacmoZraobis” liderebiakeTeben, am partiis mxardam-Werebi am aRmSeneblobis mTavarimonawileebi iqnebian. piradad me kivapireb, rom am koaliciuri mmar-Tvelobis premier-ministri gavxde!_ am koaliciur mTavrobaSi,romlis premierobasac gegmavT,„nacionalebi” Semovlen?_ Semovlen, aba, sad wavlen, sxvara gza eqnebaT?!_ amas winaT, erT-erTi gamos-vlisas, ganacxadeT, SurisZiebazeki ara, saqmeze koncentrirebulipremieri viqnebio. SurisZieba, miTumetes, politikuri niSniT, cxadia,dauSvebelia, magram adamiane-bi samarTlianobis aRdgenas iTxoven.amas rogor moaxerxebT, ba-tono giorgi?_ samarTlianobis aRdgenaZalian martivia._ anu?_ sasamarTlos reformis modeliT,romelsac xeli movawere.saerTod, yvelafers, rasac vambob,vasruleb xolme._ kerZod?_ pirdapiri wesiT arCeuli mosamarTleebida aseve saapelaciopalatebis ucxoeli mosamarTleebiTdakompleqteba. sanam es ariqneba, korufciul saqmeebsac vergamoviZiebT, magram es reforma samTveSi gatardeba. saerTod, yvelam,vinc moipara, fuli unda daabrunos,oRond maRali avtoritetismqone sasamarTlo instanciam undaTqvas, rom konkretulma adamianmafuli moipara._ ucxoeli mosamarTleebiTdakompleqtebulma sasamarTlomkorufciaSi monawileoba TqvensTanagundels rom daudasturos,mainc dasjiT?_ Tanagundeli ki ara, Cemi Svilida Zmac rom iyos, dacvis garantiaar eqneba! Tu amas ar gavakeTebT,saxelmwifos verasodesavaSenebT!_ ise, Tako Carkvianis kovid-inficirebis gamo „strategia aRmaSenebeli”saburTalos maJori-tarul olqSi gegmebs xom arSecvlis?_ marTalia, koronavirusi ardamidasturda, magram mec TviTizolaciaSivar da daavadebaTakontrolis centridan Semdgom instruqciebsvelodebi. es CvenTvisdidi dartymaa, radgan qalbatoniTako xalxs Zalian uyvars, Tumcaaxal meqanizmebs SevimuSavebT,saarCevno kampania rogor unda CavataroT!_ imedia, Tako Carkviani malegamojanmrTeldeba. hoda, Tqvencda Takosac warmatebas gisur-vebT!N20 (322) 15.09-21.09.2020 w.7
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