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ivaniSvilis satelitebi arian~
angariSs, magram sxvanairad
varT „gatiskulebi”. media SezRudulia
CvenTvis. finansebze
wvdomaSic SezRudulebi varT.
erTi egaa, rom quCaSi ar dagvdeven.
esec SeiZleba droebiTia.
_ droebiTi ratomaa? fiqrobT,
rom Zalis gamoyeneba-
zec gadavlen?
_ Tu dasWirdebaT, gadavlen.
jer amis gakeTeba ar dasWirvebiaT.
xval ra iqneba, ar vici.
winaswar Znelia imis Tqma, moqmedi
xelisufleba gamoiyenebs
Tu ara Zalas opoziciis winaaRmdeg.
_ gasuli wlis 20 ivniss
erTxel ukve gamoiyena xelisu-
flebam Zala xalxisa da opoz-
iciis winaaRmdeg.
_ 20 ivnisis RamesTan dakav-
SirebiT miSistebisgan gansxvavebuli
azri maqvs. „gavrilovis
Rames” marTlac gamoiyenes
araproporciuli Zala. policiamac
gadaaWarba Tavis uflebamosilebas.
amis miuxedavad, 20
ivnisisa da 2007 wlis 7 noembris
mSvidobiani aqciis darbevas
erTmaneTs ver Sevadareb.
amis gakeTeba ar SeiZleba.
_ ratom ar SeiZleba am ori
aqciis Sedareba?
_ ar miyvars opoziciis
winaaRmdeg raRacebis Tqma, magram
axla momiwevs amis gakeTeba.
gasuli wlis 20 ivniss politikurma
Zalebma Zalian cudad
gamoiyenes axalgazrdebis gulwrfeli
protesti.
_ ras gulisxmobT, roca ambobT,
rom axalgazrdebis pro-
testi cudad gamoiyenes?
_ politikurma Zalebma
rusTavelze gamosuli axalgazrdebis
daxmarebiT gaamwvaves
situacia.
_ Tqveni azriT, axalgazr-
debs mwvave protesti ar unda
hqonodaT imaze, rom ruseTis
dumis wevri gavrilovi saqar-
Tvelos parlamentis spikeris
savarZelSi Cajda?
_ es namdvilad iyo protestis
mizezi. Cemi azriT, gavrilovis
saqarTvelos parlamentis
Tavmjdomaris savarZelSi
Casma iyo danaSauli da ara imis
gamo, rom is ruseTis warmomadgeneli
gaxldaT da afxazeTisa
da cxinvalis damoukidebloba
aRiara. parlamentis Tavmjdomaris
savarZelSi arc erTi
qveynis warmomadgeneli ar unda
dasva. maT Soris, arc saqarTvelos
parlamentis wevrebi. wlebis
manZilze viyavi parlamentis
wevri. araerTxel yofila ise,
rom spikeratSi raRac molaparakebi
gamarTula. zogi sad jdeboda,
zogi _ sad. vice-spikeris
savarZelSi Cavmjdarvar, magram
spikeris savrZelSi arasdros
Cavjdebodi. parlamentis Tavmjdomaris
savarZeli qveynis
erTgvari simboloa da iq rogorc
SeiZleba, sxva dajdes?!
_ e. i. samarTlianad gauprotestebia
opozicias gavrilovis
Cajdoma spikeris savar-
ZelSi.
`evropuli saqarTvelo~ biZina ivaniSvilma Tavis satelitad Zalian
ostaturad gadaaqcia. 2013 wels am gundis wevrebis mimarT sami sisxlis
samarTlis saqme aRiZra. raRac periodis Semdeg es saqmeebi Taroze Semodes,
samagierod, gigi ugulavam da giga bokeriam miSa saakaSvili gamoacxades
jarTad da misi daSlilebSi Cabareba CaTvales mizanSewonilad. amiT
`nacionaluri moZraobis~ mxardamWerebi Zalian gaanawyenes. samagierod,
biZinas kontrolirebadi televiziebis eTerebi gaixsna maTTvis~
_ Zalian cudi formiT moxda
amis gaprotesteba. amas Sedegad
mohyva aqciis darbeva da
saqarTveloc seriozulad dazaralda.
_ saqarTvelo ranairad daz-
aralda?
_ ekonomikurad. am ambebis
Semdeg saqarTveloSi mkveTrad
Semcirda rusi turistebis
raodenoba. Cven davkargeT milionamde
rusi turisti. rodesac
ruseTis mimarT samarTliani
protestiT gamovdivarT,
yovelTvis zRvari unda gavavloT
ruseTis mosaxleobasa da
xelisuflebas Soris. ar Sei-
Zleba, xalxi xalxs daatako da
N20 (322) 15.09-21.09.2020 w.
Sens qveyanas daakargvino Semosavali.
_ imis SiSiT, rom aq rusi
turistebi aRar Camovlen, moskovis
qmedebebi ar unda davg-
moT?
_ rogor ar unda davgmoT,
magram rus xalxsa da maT xelisuflebas
Soris mkveTri
sazRvari unda gavavloT. Cveni
qveynis erT-erTi mTavari Semosavali
aris turizmi da es ar
unda dagvaviwydes. Cveni mosaxleobis
nawili turistuli biznesiT
irCens Tavs. gavrilovis
winaaRmdeg mowyobili aqciis
gamo Zalian bevri Semosavali
dakarga xalxma. politiko-
`meore ivaniSvilis sateliti aris partia
`girCi~. am Zalas biZina sazogadoebis
Sesamzadeblad iyenebs. magaliTad, maT
aJRerebinebs marixuanis dekriminalizaciis
Temas. isini iwyeben saubars, rom marixuana
Tavisuflad unda gaiyidos da a. S. `girCi~
pirdapir ivaniSvilisa da `qarTuli ocnebis~
ruporia~
sebi amiT ar dazaralebulan.
isini grantebze da Sav fulze
sxedan da mSvenivrad cxovroben.
amitom ar viyavi 20 ivnisis
aqciiT aRfrTovanebuli. amis
miuxedavad, aucileblad vityvi,
rom im Rames policiam Tavis
uflebamosilebas gadaaWarba.
_ Tqveni azriT, ra Sedegi
daideba arCevnebze? arc „qoci”
xarT da arc „naci”, amit-
om Tqveni prognozi sainter-
eso iqneba.
_ Cvens sazogadoebaSi Zalian
gazrdilia mgrZnobeloba politikuri
procesebis mimarT. amitom
imis prognozireba, Tu ra
Sedegi daideba arCevnebze, Zalian
rTulia. advili SesaZlebelia,
rom xelisuflebam raRacaze
waiborZikos da amiT situacia
diametrulad Seicvalos.
rame Tu ar Seicvala da xelisuflebam
ar waiborZika, savaraudod,
isev orpolusian parlaments
miviRebT. parlamentSi isev
„qocebi” da „nacebi” iqnebian
mTavar Zalebad warmodgenilebi.
„qarTuli ocnebis” satelitebs
Zalian gauWirdebaT barieris
gadalaxva, magram ivaniSvili
yvela Rones ixmars, rom
„girCi” da bokerias partia parlaments
miRma ar darCnen.
parlamentSi moxvdeba kidev
ramdenime opoziciuri partia.
mgonia, rom iq „qarTuli dasic”
SeZlebs Sesvlas. amis imeds is
cnobili partiebi maZlevs, vis-
Tan erTadac vawarmoebT molaparakebebs
da SeiZleba, erTad
gamovideT arCevnebze.
_ ar gvetyviT, romel partiebTan
awarmoebT molapar-
akebebs?
_ jer ar getyviT. dagegmili
gvaqvs, rom am kviraSi gavakeToT
prezentacia. yvela ZalasTan
molaparakebebis dasrulebas
SeiZleba arc davelodoT da
vinc movilaparakeT, imaT gavakeToT
gancxadeba. dialogs
prezentaciis Semdegac gavagr-
ZelebT. Tvis bolomde jer kidev
gvaqvs dro. vecdebiT, rom
maqsimalurad msxvili gaerTianeba
gavakeToT.
_ politikuri procesebis
mimarT sazogadoebaSi mgrZnobeloba
momatebulia da prog-
nozis gakeTeba Zneliao, TqviT.
imis Tqmac giWirT, gveyoleba
Tu ara momavalSi koaliciuri
mTavroba?
_ gadaWriT am Temaze saubaric
rTulia. Tu araferi Seicvala
da es procesebi gagrZelda,
eWvi mepareba, rom koaliciuri
mTavroba gvyavdes. xelisufleba
Tu Secdomas dauSvebs, maSin
ukve SesaZlebelia koaliciuri
mTavrobis formirebaze fiqri.
_ aris imis albaToba, rom
ivaniSvilma Secdoma dauSvas?
_ procesebis radikalizacia
Tu moxda, xelisufleba ufro
iolad dauSvebs Secdomas. Suas
gakrefa da sazogadoebis polarizeba
es ukve radikalizaciaa.
saqarTvelo bevri qveynis
interesis sferos warmoadgens
da aq procesebis radikalizacia
viRacam SesaZloa, Tavisi
interesebisTvis gamoiyenos.
dReisTvis ivaniSvils TiTqmis
yvela aqtorTan aqvs dalagebuli
situacia. aSkaraa, rom ruseTTanac
dalagebulia saqme.
moskovi didad agresiulad ar
moqmedebs. amerikis SeerTebuli
Statebi seriozul gavlenas
moaxdens Cvens arCevnebze.
_ ruseTi ver moaxdens
arCevnebze gavlenas?
_ iribi gavlenis moxdena
ruseTsac SeuZlia. saqarTveloSi
aris prorusulad ganwyobili
sazogadoeba. moskovs Seu-
Zlia maT mimarTos, Tu vis unda
miscen xma. am mimarTulebiT aSS
ufro aqtiuria. amerikis axali
elCis, keli degnanis mimarT
didi simpaTiiT var ganwyobili.
Zalian aqtiuri qalbatonia.
TiTqmis yvelaferze akeTebs
komentars, maT Soris, iseT Temebzec,
razdaec elCi komentars
ar unda akeTebdes. aqve
unda iTqvas, rom is komentarebs
Zalian koreqtuli formiT
akeTebs. erTi SexedviT ver ifiqreb,
rom arCevnebis SedegebiT
dainteresebulia, magram Cven
xom viciT, Tu ramxela interesi
aqvs vaSingtons saqarTvelos
mimarT. saqarTveloSi Tavisi
gavlenebis gaZlierebas sxva
saxelmwifoebic cdiloben. es
Cven ar vcdilobT arafers. isev
polarizacias davubrundebi
da es Zalian saxifaTo pricesia.
am Sua gakrefam SesaZloa, seriozul
dapirispirebamde migviyvanios.
amas rom Tavi davaneboT,
Suas gakrefa politikuri
speqtris ganviTarebas uSlis
xels. politikur velze mxolod
ramdenime partiis adgilia
da isini am velze sxvas ar SemouSveben.
qveyanaSi ki yvelaferi
ise iqneba, rogorc maT awyobT.
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