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qveynis araformalur mmarTvel
Sorena marsagiSvili
biZina ivaniSvilis deidaSvili da
599 92 16 22
marjvena xeli, odiozuri persona
uCa mamacaSvili, morig skandalSi
gaexvia. gasul kviras „tv pirvelma” gamoaqveyna dokumentebi,
saidanac vigebT, rom oligarqis naTesavi moskovSi Zalian xSir-
ad dafrinavs da kacma ar icis, iq ra misias asrulebs(!!!).
oTar kvirikaSvili:
`kompromatebi
„gamarjvebuli saqarTvelos”
wevri oTar kvirikaSvili miiCnevs,
rom es skandaluri informacia
medias susis maRalCinosnebma
miawodes. is darwmunebulia,
rom specsamsaxurebma medi-
as aRniSnuli informacia
arCevnebis win specialurad ga-
dasces.
risTvis dasWirdaT susis ma-
RalCinosnebs ivaniSvilis say-
vareli deidaSvilis gaSaveba?
TanamSromloben Tu ara Zalovani
struqturebis warmomadgenlebi
opoziciasTan? ratom malavs
„ocnebis” deputatobis kan-
didati, rom „nacionalebis”
dros sasjelaRsrulebis saministroSi
departaments xelmZRv-
anelobda? rogor unda gamoiyvanos
opoziciam xalxi nihil-
izmidan? _ amis Sesaxeb oTar
kvirikaSvili „qronika+”-s es-
aubreba:
_ didi ambebi mohyva infor-
macias imis Sesaxeb, rom biZina
ivaniSvilis deidaSvili uCa mama-
caSvili saqmeebis mosagvareblad
moskovSi xSirad dafrinavda.
Tqven socialur qselSi dawer-
eT, rom medias es informacia
susma miawoda. ratom ggoniaT,
rom susi dgas amis ukan?
_ opozicias rom msgavsi dokumentebi
hqonoda, aqamde aTasjer
gamoaqveynebda, Tumca faqtia,
aravis araferi gamouqveynebia.
aba, saidan gaCnda amdeni oficialuri
dokumenti, frenebis
ganrigi, rusul specsamsaxureb-
Si daculi dosie da a. S.? aseT
informaciebze wvdoma mxolod
susisa da Sss-s maRalCinosnebs an
premier-ministrs Tu eqneba. darwmunebuli
var, es informaciac
maT mier aris gacemuli.
aseTi rameebi ki maSin xdeba,
rodesac gemi iZireba da yvelaze
gavleniani pirebi Tavis gadarCenas
cdiloben. ase iyo Sevardna-
Zis dros, ase moxda 2012-Sic da
ase xdeba axlac _ „qarTuli ocneba”
iZireba, amas maRal eSelonebSi
droulad amCneven, dabal
eSelonebSi ki samagiso arc
informacia aqvT da arc goneba
uWriT, rom magdens mixvdnen. zogierTi
ki Zalian bevrs iRebs sakuTar
Tavze da amis gamo samagaliTodac
isjeba.
aq saintereso is ambavia, rom
informaciam susidan gamoJona,
Torem mamacaSvili ruseTSi
ivaniSvilis Suamavali rom aris
da moskovSi raRacebs ulagebs, es
yvelasTvis cnobilia. biZinasac
araerTxel aqvs naTqvami, rom
mamacaSvili misi sayvareli deidaSvilia
da mas Zalian endoba.
rodesac oligarqi saqarTvelo-
Si dabrunda, rusebma yvela biznesi
ar gamoatanes. misi raRac
biznesebi iq darCa. am biznesebsac
mixedva sWirdeba. mamacaSvili am
saqmeebsac agvarebs. moskovSi
oligarqis deidaSvili poli-
tikuri saxis Sexvedrebsac mar-
Tavs.
_ ratom xarT ise darwmunebuli,
rom mamacaSvilis mosko-
vuri voiaJebis Sesaxeb medias
informacia susma miawoda? iqneb,
romelime aviakompania dgas amis
ukan?
_ SesaZlebelia, rom viRac mgzavrze
marTlac mogawodos aviakompaniam
informacia, magram
Cven sul sxva tipis dosie vixileT.
saubaria ruseTis uSiSroebis
dosieze. rodesac aseTi
dosie xvdeba Jurnalistis xel-
Si, Zalian martivi gasaSifria,
rom msgavss dokumentebTan wvdoma
qarTuli specsamsaxurebis
garda aravis eqneboda. gasaTvaliswinebelia
isic, rom dosieze
wvdoma mxolod maRalCinosnebs
aqvT. susis rigiT TanamSromlebs,
rogorc ukve giTxariT, aseT
dokumentebze xeli ar miuwvdebaT.
aseTi informaciebi, rogorc
wesi, ZiriTadad, maSin Jonavs,
roca esa Tu is xelisufleba
unda wavides. specsamsaxurebis
maRalCinosnebi xelisuflebis
cvlilebebis gardauvalobas yvelaze
win grZnoben, radganac maT
Zalian bevri informacia aqvT.
maT xelSia Sida kvlevebi, dasavleTidan
mosuli informaciebi
da a. S. am yvelafers aanalizeben
da cdiloben, rom momavali
mTavrobisganac miiRon garantiebi.
ase moiqcnen wina xelisuflebis
warmomadgenlebic. roca dainaxes,
rom saakaSvilis gemi iZireboda,
„ocnebasTan” daiwyes TanamSromloba.
bevri maTgani dRes
maRal Tanamdebobazea. erT-erTi
amaTgani, giorgi xojevaniSvili,
„qarTulma ocnebam” gorSi ma-
Joritarobis kandidatad waradgina.
ivaniSvilis partiam meore
Zmasac daufasa Rvawli. is axla
sus-is ufrosis moadgilea.
saakaSvilis mmarTvelobis
dros giorgi xojevaniSvili
sasjelaRsrulebis saministros
departamentis ufrosi iyo. is im
periodSi gaxldaT am uwyebis ma-
RalCinosani, roca Cven aqciebs
aqciebze vawyobdiT cixeebSi patimrebis
wamebis gamo. giorgis
Zma ki Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
geninspeqciis ufrosi da vano
merabiSvilis TanaSemwe iyo. yvelas
gaxsovT is cnobili kadrebi
muxrovanis amboxebidan, sadac
vano or gvams iTxovs. xojevaniSvili
iq mis gverdiT dgas.
giorgi xojevaniSvili gorSi
aqtiur saarCevno kampanias atarebs:
xvdeba amomrCevels, iZleva
dapirebebs. arigeben bukletebs,
sadac misi biografia weria, magram
arsad araa aRniSnuli, rom
cixeSi muSaobda. arada, mas iq
sakmaod maRali Tanamdeboba ekava
_ ganyofilebis ufrosi iyo.
mas saerTaSoriso urTierTobebi
ebara. misi movaleoba gaxldaT,
mamacaSvilze
medias susis
maRalCinosanma
miawoda~
saerTaSoriso organizaciebisTvis
moexsenebina, Tu ra viTareba
iyo qarTul cixeebSi. rame dauweria,
Tu ra saSineleba xdeboda
maSin sapatimroebSi? xma ar amouRia.
arsad msmenia, rom xojevaniSvils
patimrebis wameba daegmo.
_ arc gaqocebis Semdeg ula-
parakia am Temaze.
_ iseTi poza daikava, TiTqos
ar icoda, cixeSi patimrebs rom
awamebdnen.
_ SesaZlebelia, rom es in-
formacia misTvis cnobili ar
yofiliyo?
_ gamoricxulia, rom amis
Sesaxeb ar scodnoda. magan Tu ar
icoda, aba, vin icoda?! cixeebSi
patimrebs araadamianurad rom
epyrobodnen, es rigiTma moqalaqeebmac
ki icodnen. amaze bevri
iwereboda mediaSi. patimrebis
`saintereso is ambavia, rom informaciam susidan
gamoJona, Torem mamacaSvili ruseTSi
ivaniSvilis Suamavali rom aris da moskovSi
raRacebs ulagebs, es yvelasTvis cnobilia.
biZinasac araerTxel aqvs naTqvami, rom
mamacaSvili misi sayvareli deidaSvilia da mas
Zalian endoba. rodesac oligarqi saqarTveloSi
dabrunda, rusebma yvela biznesi ar gamoatanes.
misi raRac biznesebi iq darCa. am biznesebsac
mixedva sWirdeba. mamacaSvili am saqmeebsac
agvarebs. moskovSi oligarqis deidaSvili
politikuri saxis Sexvedrebsac marTavs~
wamebis Sesaxeb informacia lado
bedukaZesac ki hqonda, romelic
cixis rigiTi TanamSromeli iyo.
xojevaniSvili ki ganyofilebas
xelmZRvanelobda. warmoudgenelia,
mas ar scodnoda, Tu ra xdeboda
cixeebSi. amis Sesaxeb informacia
misi ZmisTvisac iqneboda
cnobili, romelic vano merabiSvilis
marjvena xelad iTvleboda.„nacionalebis”
dros xojevaniSvilebi
Zalian maRal postebze
muSaobdnen, magram amas ZmebisTvis
xeli ar SeuSlia, rom
„qarTul ocnebasTan” daelagebinaT
_ erTi sus-is ufrosis moadgilea,
meore jer gubernatori
iyo, axla ki maJoritari deputatobis
kandidatia.
ar gamovricxav rom uCa mamacaSvilis
dosie xojevaniSvilebis
msgavsi tipebis mier iyos gamotanili.
aseTi kadrebi mravlad
gvyavs specsamsaxurebSi. saWiro
dros gamoaqvT xolme saWiro informaciebi
gareT da gadadian
erTi mTavrobidan meore
mTavrobaSi. aseT portirebulebze
dgas dRes „qarTuli ocneba”
da gasakviri araa, rom iqidan informaciebi
Jonavs.
_ isev mamacaSvilis dosies
davubrundeT. Tqveni azriT,
risTvis dasWirda sus-is romeliRac
maRalCinosans masze in-
formaciis gavrceleba?
_ imitom, rom is aris biZina
ivaniSvilis marjvena xeli. Tqven
ra ggoniaT, mamacaSvilze marto
es informacia eqnebaT? sxva dosieebic
edebaT Taroebze. am dosieebs
mxolod medias ar miawvdian.
didi albaTobiT mamacaSvilze
dosies opoziciasac miutanen, Tu
ukve mitanili ar aqvT. SesaZloa,
raRac dokumentebi Seinaxon da
mere miitanon, roca xelisufleba
Seicvleba. bevri skandaluri
informaciaa maT xelSi. Seecdebian,
rom maTi daxmarebiT garantiebi
miiRon. garantiebis misaRebad
ukve dawyebuli aqvT muSaoba.
imdeni gabedes, rom ivaniSvilis
marjvena xels miadgnen. aqamde
Zalian dabali donis moxeleebze
aZlevdnen medias informaciebs.
magaliTad, irakli sesiaSvilis
saxlsa da auzze.
sesiaSvilebisa da TalakvaZeebis
mxileba biZina ivaniSvils veranairad
ver daazaralebda. sxva
saqmea moskovSi mamacaSvilis sirbili.
cxadia, rom is iq oligarqis
davalebiT dadioda da mis
saqmeebs agvarebda. es „qarTuli
ocnebis” lideris winaaRmdeg
ukve Zalian seriozuli kompromatia.
radganac ukve ivaniSvilis
imiji dadga dartymis qveS, es
niSnavs, rom Zalovnebis raRac
jgufi arsebul xelisuflebas
wyals uyenebs.
_ SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis
bolo Jamsac ase iyo _ Sss da
uSiSroeba, faqtobrivad, dau-
faravad muSaobda opoziciaze.
_ im droidan bevri darCa sus-
Si, isini gamocdili xalxia da
axal xelisuflebasTan Segueba
ar gauWirdebaT. magaliTisTvis
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