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2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebamde
sul ufro cota dro rCeba. Tumca winasaarCevno kampania
sakmaod mdored miedineba. yovel SemTxvevaSi sazogadoe-
bis did nawils ar aqvs gancda, rom mniSvnelovan arCevnebamde
or Tveze naklebia darCenili.
politikisa da arCevnebis
mimarT axalgazrdebs rom nihilisturi
damokidebuleba
aqvT, es Cveni qveynis magaliTze
araxalia. rogorc wesi,
axalgazrdebi pasiurebi arian
da maTi sakmaod didi nawili
arCevnebSi monawileobisgan
Tavs ikavebs.
bolo periodSi ganviTarebulma
movlenebma, maT Soris,
20 ivnisis aqciebma da proporciuli
saarCevno sistemis moTxovnam
axalgazrdebis CarTuloba
gaaZliera. aRmoCnda, rom
msgavsi sakiTxebis mimarT axalma
Taobam interesi gamoavlina.
arsebuli politikuri partiebi
ki naklebad aqceven yuradRebas
axali Taobis eleqtorats,
partiebis mTavari interesis
sfero kvlav ufrosi
Taobis warmomadgenlebi arian
da, Sesabamisad, maTi misamarTiT
gascemen gacveTil dapirebebs.
aqve unda aRvniSnoT isic,
rom gamonaklisebis saxiT arseboben
rigi politikosebi,
romlebic garkveulwilad
iTvaliswineben axalgazrdebis
dakveTasa da interesebs.
rogoria politikuri viTareba
arCevnebis moaxloebisas?
ra formiT arian CarTulebi
axalgazrdebi am procesebSi?
aqvs Tu ara mmarTvel gunds
mesamed xelisuflebis Senar-
Cunebis Sansi?
am da sxva mniSvnelovani Temebis
Sesaxeb „qronika+” rubrika
„axalgazrda politiko-
sebSi” samoqalaqo aqtivist
anna qarTleliSvils esaubra:
_ rogor SeafasebT winasaarCevno
garemos? sazogadoeb-
is umravlesobas aRqma aqvs,
rom TiTqos ar aris saarCevno
samzadisi aqtiur fazaSi. eT-
anxmebiT am mosazrebas?
_ 2012 wlis saparlamento
arCevnebis Sedegad saqarTveloSi
arCevnebis gziT pirvelad
Seicvala xelisufleba,
rac qveynis ganviTarebisTvis
mniSvnelovnad wingadadgmuli
nabiji iyo. 2020-is arCevnebi
aranakleb mniSvnelovania, igi
testi da sazomia saqarTvelo-
Si demokratiis xarisxisa. saarCevno
samzadisi aqtiurad
mimdinareobs, Tumca wina arCevnebisgan
gansxvavebiT dRes
rigi axali problemebia dRis
wesrigSi, romlis gaTvaliswinebiTac
arsebobs sxvadasxva
xelis SemSleli piroba da
mas gverds ver avuvliT, radgan
saqme exeba adamianebis janmrTelobas.
ver dageTanxmebiT
winasaarCevno samzadisis pasiurobaSi,
radgan Zalian bevri
adamiani 24-saaTian reJimSi
muSaobs istoriuli mniSvnelobis
arCevnebSi samarTlianad
gamarjvebisTvis.
_ fiqrobT Tu ara, rom koronaviruss
xelisufleba saTavisod
gamoiyenebs? ukavSir-
ebT Tu ara gazrdil statis-
tikas arCevnebis moaxloebas?
_ ori azri ar aris am Tezis
faqtad qcevaSi da imaSi, rom
saxelisuflebo gundi yvelanair
resurss saTavisod gamoiyenebs,
Tumca aucilebelia aRiniSnos
amerikis daavadebaTa
kontrolis centris direqtor
redfildis mier wina wels gamoqveynebuli
statia, romelmac
winaswar gagvafrTxila Semodgoma-zamTris
periodis kritikulobaze,
radgan „kovid-
19-s” emateba gripis sezonuri
epidemiebic, rac, bunebrivia,
Zalian cud Sedegebamde migviyvans,
Tu, ra Tqma unda, mmarTvel
gunds (risic me samarTlianad
ar mjera) winaswari zomebi
ar eqneba SemuSavebuli.
_ xelisuflebam gasul kviras
proporciuli siis oceuli
waradgina. ramdenad damajereblad
gamoiyureba „qar-
Tuli ocnebis” sia?
_ Zalian martivi ambavia. daviwyoT
ivaniSviliT, romelsac
kvlavac kuluaruli mmarTveloba
surs da aranairi pirdapiri
pasuxismgeblobis aRebas
ar gegmavs. Sesabamisad, „qarTuli
ocnebis” pirvel nomrad
gvevlineba gaxaria, romelic
Tavidan bolomde daqvemdebarebulia
ivaniSvilis erTpirovnul
mmarTvelobas danarCen
kandidatebTan erTad, romel-
Ta erTobliobac qmnis uideologio,
prorusul da antisaxelmwifoebriv
gaerTianebas,
ramac Zalian mZime Sedegebamde
miiyvana saxelmwifo da qar-
Tuli sazogadoeba. 8 welia,
rac xelisufleba ivaniSvilis
araformalur uzurpaciaSia,
ganvlilma wlebma ki naTlad
dagvanaxa, rom aranairi mniSvnelobis
matarebeli ar aris
„qarTul ocnebaSi” saxelebi,
gvarebi, axali Tu Zveli saxeebi,
pirovnuli Tu profesiuli
maxasiaTeblebi, radgan „qar-
Tul ocnebasTan” kavSiri pirdapir
proporciaSia batonis
morCilebasTan. danarCeni,
ubralod, miRebuli instruqciebis
usityvod Sesrulebas
moicavs.
_ am yvelafris paralelu-
rad ki opoziciam ver SeZlo
erTobis SenarCuneba, maT
Soris, saerTo maJoritari
kandidatebis nawilSi. rogor
fiqrobT, ratom?
_ upirveles yovlisa, aRvni-
Snav, rom dRes saqarTvelos
Zalian mravalferovani opozicia
hyavs, rac TiToeul moqalaqes
komforts uqmnis da uadvilebs
arCevans. Tumca zustad
am mravalferovnebidan,
gansxvavebuli Sexedulebebidan
Tu politikuri ideologiebidan
gamomdinareobs garkveulwilad
da rig sakiTxebSi
erTianobis verSenarCuneba, magram
yvelaze mniSvnelovan sakiTxSi
opozicia Sejerebuli,
SeTanxmebuli da erTiania _
ivaniSvilma ver unda SeZlos
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anna qarTleliSvili:
`qarTuli ocneba~
ver SeZlebs
parlamentSi
hegemonad darCenas~
arCevnebSi umravlesobis mopoveba!
proporciul nawilSi ki,
bunebrivia, unda iyos konkurencia,
partiaTaSorisi gansxvavebebis
aRqma da partiuli
winasaarCevno programis demonstracia.
_ ra rols asrulebs saakaS-
vilis faqtori winasaarCevnod
da iwvevs Tu ara misi gancxa-
debebi polarizebas?
_ mixeil saakaSvili erT-er-
Ti mowinaaRmdegea ivaniSvilis
mmarTvelobis. calsaxad gasaTvaliswinebelia
misi da „nacionaluri
moZraobis” eleqtorati,
Tumca verc erTi partia
(es iqneba „evropuli saqar-
Tvelo”, „nacionaluri moZraoba”
Tu sxva opoziciuri gaer-
Tianeba) ver SeZlebs sasurvelis
miRebas individualuri
TamaSiT.
_ „evropulma saqarTvelom”
broSurebic ki daariga imi-
sTvis, rom amomrCevels dae-
naxa, ra gansxvavebaa maTsa da
„qarTul ocnebas”, aseve „nac-
ionalur moZraobas” Soris.
Tqven rogor aRiqvamT am gan-
sxvavebas?
_ „evropuli saqarTvelos”
mTavari mizani Tavisufali adamianebis
sazogadoebis ganvi-
Tarebaa saqarTveloSi, koaliciuri
mTavrobis Seqmna da evroatlantikur
sivrceSi swrafi
integracia, rasac, vfiqrob,
Rirseulad da pasuxismgeblobiT
gaarTmeven Tavs. dReisTvis
es yvelaze misaRebi ideologiis
mqone politikuri gaerTianebaa
CemTvis.
_ ra Sansebi aqvs „evropuli
saqarTvelodan” vakis ma-
Joritari deputatobis kandi-
dat elene xoStarias?
_ rac Seexeba elene xoStarias,
romlis StabSiac var da
winasaarCevnod vexmarebi, obieqturad
vfiqrob, rom didi
Sansebi gvaqvs arCevnebis pirvelive
turSi gamarjvebis, radgan
elene Zalian Rirseuli,
`saxelisuflebo gundi
yvelanair resurss
saTavisod gamoiyenebs~
Sromismoyvare, pasuxismgebliani
da principuli kandidatia.
vakesa da saburTalos garkveul
nawils gaumarTla.
_ zogadad, axalgazrdebi
nihilisturad arian ganwyobili
arCevnebis mimarT. ra SegiZliaT
TqvaT 2020 wlis saparlamento
arCevnebze, Secv-
lilia Tu ara axalgazrdebis
damokidebuleba?
_ 2020-is arCevnebi istoriuli
xasiaTis arCevnebia. aq
aucileblad unda gavixsenoT
20 ivnisis Semdeg ganviTarebuli
faqtebi da is lomis wili,
romelic sazogadoebis axalgazrda
nawilma sakuTari janmrTelobisa
da nervebis xarjze
davdeT. imedia, subieqturobaSi
ar CamiTvliT Tu
vityvi, rom saarCevno cvlilebebisTvis
brZolaSi samoqalaqo
seqtorma (sadac axalgazrdebi
sxvadasxva jgufSi
erTi miznis irgvliv gaverTiandiT)
politikosebTan da
saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobas-
Tan erTad moipova gamarjveba.
Sesabamisad, principulad mniSvnelovania
CvenTvis arCevnebSi
warmateba da didi interesiTa
da mondomebiT vakvirdebiT da
vmonawileobT winasaarCevno
saqmianobaSi.
_ romeli partia iTvaliswinebs
winasaarCevnod axal-
gazrdebis interesebs?
_ vfiqrob, TiToeuli partiis
interesSi unda Sediodes
axlgazrdebisTvis kargi memkvidreobis
gadacema, maTi xedvebis
gaTvaliswineba, TanamSromloba,
swavleba Tu magali-
Tis micema, rac, bunebrivia, upirveles
yovlisa, saxelmwifoebriv
interesebSia da TviTon
partiebisTvisac kargia, rodesac
Rirseul da ganaTlebul
adamianebs zrdi da uSveb politikur
asparezze. aris ramdenime
partia, romelic cdilobs
axalgazrdebTan TanamSroblobas,
Tumca vis rogor
gamosdis, sakiTxavia. me kmayofili
var.
_ rogoria Tqveni prognozi,
SeZlebs Tu ara „qarTuli
ocneba” umravlesobiT xe-
lisuflebaSi mosvlas?
_ „qarTuli ocneba” veravi-
Tar SemTxvevaSi ver SeZlebs
umravlesobis SenarCunebas da
mesame vadiT hegemonad darCenas
parlamentSi, Tumca gansxvavebiT
wina mowvevis parlamentebisgan,
saarCevno cvlilebebidan
gamomdinare, romelsac
rogorc yvelafers aqvs Tavisi
xarvezi, ivaniSvilis Camocileba
ar iqneba is, rac aqamde
xelisuflebis cvlilebas niSnavda.
eSmaki detalebSia, Sesabamisad,
omis dasrulebis Semdeg
mSvidobis unda gveSinodes,
radgan rigi Tavsatexebi
eqnebaT erTmaneTisgan gansxvavebuli
ideologiis mqone
partiebs amosaxsneli da gadasalaxi.
Tumca, amave dros, saqarTveloSi
politikuri kulturis
CamoyalibebisTvis Zalian
kargi procesebi iwyeba,
rac, bunebrivia, saxelmwifosa
da qarTuli sazogadoebisTvis
gardamtex da umniSvnelovanes
cvlilebebs moitans.
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