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Wayne Morris:<br />
Your father was your main h<strong>an</strong>dler <strong>an</strong>d programmer, <strong>an</strong>d how old were you when he died?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
My father was my h<strong>an</strong>dler <strong>an</strong>d programmer, <strong>an</strong>d I was forty years old when he died.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
How did you m<strong>an</strong>age <strong>to</strong> break free of your family's control of your life at that time? Did<br />
other people step in ...<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
When the Master dies, generally the slave also dies, but because of our determination <strong>to</strong><br />
fight the programming <strong>an</strong>d <strong>to</strong> get <strong>to</strong> the bot<strong>to</strong>m of what was happening within our mind,<br />
we were able <strong>to</strong> fight the suicide programming. >From there we started a journey in<strong>to</strong><br />
underst<strong>an</strong>ding that we were a structured multiple which we didn't even know what that<br />
was ... that we had a long road ahead of us, a hard road <strong>to</strong> travel.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Did you have <strong>to</strong> travel that alone or did other people help you?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
No. I had a very strong support team. Several people in my support team were also<br />
victims of mind control.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
<strong>The</strong> people that weren't, they had <strong>an</strong> underst<strong>an</strong>ding of the mind control techniques?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
No. We started this journey basically learning <strong>to</strong> underst<strong>an</strong>d ourselves, listening <strong>to</strong><br />
ourselves, confronting each other within the system with this is what is happening with<br />
you, putting our notes <strong>to</strong>gether <strong>an</strong>d realizing 'hey we are getting our memories<br />
separately, we are feeling the same way, reacting the same way', taking one step at a<br />
time because thirteen years ago, nobody really knew <strong>an</strong>ything about MPD.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Did your father also victimize other people?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
Most definitely. He was a master programmer.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Did you have brothers <strong>an</strong>d sisters that were affected as well?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
Not <strong>to</strong> the degree that I was. I was the firstborn.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Is it because you were the firstborn that you were chosen for this kind of victimization or<br />
were there other reasons?<br />
Cisco Wheeler:<br />
In part. In the late forties the <strong>Illuminati</strong> w<strong>an</strong>ted <strong>to</strong> infiltrate the churches because they<br />
unders<strong>to</strong>od the power of God within the structure of the church, <strong>an</strong>d they had <strong>to</strong> find a<br />
way <strong>to</strong> infiltrate the church <strong>to</strong> break down that spiritual strength within the church, the<br />
power of the holy spirit that works within the church. <strong>The</strong>y had <strong>to</strong> find a way <strong>to</strong> infiltrate<br />
that, <strong>an</strong>d they w<strong>an</strong>ted <strong>to</strong> bring the world in<strong>to</strong> the churches so that the churches wouldn't<br />
be so strong spiritually. That was part of my father's job. In order <strong>to</strong> do that my father<br />
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