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engineer or a lawyer or a politici<strong>an</strong> who is very highly qualified for what they are doing.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Once they have controlled somebody, what kinds of things would they be used <strong>to</strong> do for<br />
the <strong>Illuminati</strong>?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
This has not been brought out very well by other people <strong>an</strong>d maybe it's just simply<br />
because they are not aware of it, but the mind control is not just <strong>to</strong> create somebody<br />
who is a sexual slave, but it's <strong>to</strong> infiltrate <strong>an</strong>d control society across the board.<br />
Underst<strong>an</strong>d that if you are going <strong>to</strong> control something like establishment medicine - you<br />
have <strong>to</strong> have your people in key positions because the weakest link the chain is going <strong>to</strong><br />
break. You c<strong>an</strong>'t have <strong>an</strong>y weak links. <strong>The</strong>y salt their people throughout society in<br />
general, from the gutter <strong>to</strong> the castles. An example of one group of people that they<br />
have created for modern society are stalkers. In my recent book, Deeper Insights In<strong>to</strong><br />
the <strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>Formula</strong>, I go in<strong>to</strong> how they create stalkers <strong>an</strong>d why they create stalkers.<br />
Let's say you are trying <strong>to</strong> control medicine because the establishment medical system<br />
brings them in lots of money <strong>an</strong>d the medical establishment is very powerful, you have <strong>to</strong><br />
have control of the entire spectrum of things - the hospitals, what kind of health care is<br />
going <strong>to</strong> be available, the type of training these doc<strong>to</strong>rs are going <strong>to</strong> get, they have<br />
created secret strike forces like the CCHI <strong>an</strong>d the NCHF that keep people in line. All of<br />
this requires mind control slaves being salted in throughout the entire system. If you<br />
have one weak link - for inst<strong>an</strong>ce if you have one person who is practising alternative<br />
medicine <strong>an</strong>d you don't control the judicial system - you are not going <strong>to</strong> be able <strong>to</strong><br />
convict, eg. this homeopathic doc<strong>to</strong>r if you don't control the judicial system. You have <strong>to</strong><br />
have this vast secret apparatus, <strong>an</strong>d until people underst<strong>an</strong>d the mind control, they c<strong>an</strong>'t<br />
underst<strong>an</strong>d how there could possibly be the type of control that they have.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
In order <strong>to</strong> underst<strong>an</strong>d how they are able <strong>to</strong> control these people that they have put in<br />
key positions in society, we do have <strong>to</strong> talk more about the techniques of mind control,<br />
<strong>an</strong>d maybe we c<strong>an</strong> go in<strong>to</strong> that now, of how they are able <strong>to</strong> effect control over these<br />
people. For example, the trauma.<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
<strong>The</strong> trauma would be used for a whole number of reasons, but at the very basic level<br />
when you traumatize somebody <strong>to</strong> the point where they almost die, or actually <strong>to</strong> be<br />
more specific they actually do "kill" these people but they know exactly how m<strong>an</strong>y<br />
seconds they c<strong>an</strong> allow them <strong>to</strong> be killed <strong>an</strong>d still bring them back <strong>to</strong> life. <strong>The</strong>y<br />
m<strong>an</strong>ipulate near-death experiences, they have that down <strong>to</strong> a science. That was the<br />
major reason that you had the major concentration camp experiments by Mengele where<br />
people were <strong>to</strong>rtured. He belonged <strong>to</strong> <strong>an</strong> <strong>Illuminati</strong> bloodline <strong>an</strong>d was doing <strong>Illuminati</strong><br />
research for mind control purposes, he did a lot of research on twins. <strong>The</strong>y found out<br />
exactly how much trauma you could give different people before you killed them. What<br />
that trauma does is it puts the brain back in<strong>to</strong> a survival mode <strong>an</strong>d now I have <strong>to</strong> get in<strong>to</strong><br />
explaining that the popular concept of the brain being one monolithic brain is real<br />
deceptive.<br />
It has been kept very secret but the hum<strong>an</strong> brain is actually seven brains. <strong>The</strong> first brain<br />
of the hum<strong>an</strong> mind - the medullah <strong>an</strong>d the pons - is called the Reptili<strong>an</strong> Brain because it<br />
thinks like a reptili<strong>an</strong>. If you are always traumatizing a person, you keep them in their<br />
reptili<strong>an</strong> thinking or their survival based thinking. Survival based thinking has certain<br />
characteristics. At the very basic level, the trauma c<strong>an</strong> be used <strong>to</strong> keep somebody within<br />
their survival based thinking. It also creates fear <strong>an</strong>d there is a whole series that<br />
spiritually happen <strong>to</strong> a person when they get caught up in fear.<br />
If you think in terms of blackmail, the listener may remember when he was a child <strong>an</strong>d<br />
somebody grabbed your arm <strong>an</strong>d twisted it <strong>an</strong>d said "say uncle" <strong>an</strong>d of course your arm<br />
hurt, <strong>an</strong>d you gave in. That's a very simple type of mind control. <strong>The</strong> trauma <strong>an</strong>d the<br />
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