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generous as it appears. <strong>The</strong>y are trying <strong>to</strong> do good deeds <strong>an</strong>d bal<strong>an</strong>ce those with their<br />

bad deeds, they believe in bal<strong>an</strong>ce in their religion. It's a gnostic luciferi<strong>an</strong>ism.<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

I think it might be difficult for the people listening <strong>to</strong> underst<strong>an</strong>d how somebody could be<br />

in public doing good deeds <strong>an</strong>d having a good public image, <strong>an</strong>d at the same time having<br />

this very dark side. I don't know if you have read the recent Judith Spencer book,<br />

"Sat<strong>an</strong>'s High Priest". It really illustrates how that works very clearly. It's a true s<strong>to</strong>ry<br />

about one particular sat<strong>an</strong>ic cult, a high priest, <strong>an</strong>d his rise <strong>to</strong> that.<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

No I haven't read the book, but I am glad that you brought that out <strong>to</strong> the listeners. <strong>The</strong><br />

way that someone c<strong>an</strong> begin <strong>to</strong> see the <strong>Illuminati</strong> is <strong>to</strong> start looking at how these people<br />

are above the wars <strong>an</strong>d the rest of what we have <strong>to</strong> suffer. For inst<strong>an</strong>ce Pierre Samuel<br />

Dupont, during the French Revolution, all kinds of people around Pierre lost their heads<br />

<strong>an</strong>d yet, for some str<strong>an</strong>ge reason, Samuel Dupont m<strong>an</strong>aged <strong>to</strong> "keep his head" when so<br />

m<strong>an</strong>y hundreds of people were losing theirs <strong>to</strong> the guillotine. One person who was<br />

influential in protecting him was Necker's daughter, Madame Germaine Destael. She r<strong>an</strong><br />

a cat-house, but <strong>an</strong>yway she was intimate friends with St. Simon <strong>an</strong>d St. Simon's<br />

disciples were saying at that point in time in the early 1800's that the target date for the<br />

New World Order would be the year 2000.<br />

Another example in his<strong>to</strong>ry, <strong>an</strong>d I brought this out in the Top 13 <strong>Illuminati</strong> Bloodlines<br />

book, is when the U.S. went <strong>to</strong> war right after Pearl Harbor, within a few days, President<br />

Roosevelt came out with a Presidential Decree which was a semi-secret amendment <strong>to</strong><br />

the Trading with the Enemy Act, <strong>an</strong>d it made it legal for certain people <strong>to</strong> trade with the<br />

enemy, if they were given permission by the Americ<strong>an</strong> Secretary of the Treasury who at<br />

that time was H<strong>an</strong>s Morgenthale. I copied the paper work out of the Federal Code of<br />

Regulations. <strong>The</strong>y actually have this Presidential Decree where if he w<strong>an</strong>ted <strong>to</strong> exempt<br />

somebody, he could allow them <strong>to</strong> trade with the enemy. Who were the people that were<br />

given that privilege? Rockefellers <strong>an</strong>d Onassis, both of them <strong>Illuminati</strong> kingpins. During<br />

WWII every ship that was a Greek merch<strong>an</strong>t ship was sunk during the War by one side or<br />

the other. Something happened <strong>an</strong>d essentially all of the Greek shippers lost their<br />

vessels. <strong>The</strong>re was one Greek shipper, Aris<strong>to</strong>tle Onassis, who didn't lose a single ship <strong>an</strong>d<br />

his vessels sailed through all the war zones. None of the Allies or the Axis powers ever<br />

attacked his ships. For something like that <strong>to</strong> happen, you have <strong>to</strong> have full collaboration<br />

at the highest level. You see these kinds of things going like - Pierre Samuel Dupont,<br />

Aris<strong>to</strong>tle Onassis. <strong>The</strong>n you are looking at somebody who is <strong>Illuminati</strong>. <strong>The</strong>y sit above all<br />

these conflicts that they create for all the common people.<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

This way of bypassing trading with the enemy regulations, how has this been utilized<br />

with regard <strong>to</strong> WWII or the Bolshevik revolution for that matter?<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

In fact there is <strong>an</strong> entire book out - I think the title is "Trading with the Enemy", it came<br />

out in 1983 <strong>an</strong>d <strong>an</strong>swers your question. Rockefeller St<strong>an</strong>dard Oil shipped gas <strong>an</strong>d oil <strong>to</strong><br />

Spain which then piped it directly <strong>to</strong> the Nazis. <strong>The</strong> Allies knew that Rockefeller was<br />

supplying the Germ<strong>an</strong>s. That prolonged the War a couple of year. But you don't hear<br />

about this by establishment his<strong>to</strong>ri<strong>an</strong>s. <strong>The</strong>re was a lot of import<strong>an</strong>t trading during WWII<br />

was necessary <strong>to</strong> sustain the Nazi war machine.<br />

And you mentioned the Bolshevik revolution. Again you will see there was a lot of<br />

fin<strong>an</strong>ces sent from, as you are probably well aware <strong>an</strong>d some listeners are aware, from<br />

Kuhn Laib (sp) <strong>an</strong>d Comp<strong>an</strong>y <strong>an</strong>d some of these other llum<strong>an</strong>iti people, <strong>an</strong>d that money<br />

was used by the Bolsheviks <strong>to</strong> fin<strong>an</strong>ce the revolution. <strong>The</strong>re were a lot of other<br />

agreements made at that time <strong>an</strong>d things done <strong>to</strong> help them out. <strong>The</strong>re is a lot going on<br />

behind the scenes.<br />

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