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Wayne Morris:<br />
<strong>The</strong>y really use the multiple personalities <strong>to</strong> facilitate this double life that they have <strong>to</strong><br />
lead ... before we get in<strong>to</strong> the techniques that they use for mind control <strong>an</strong>d the details<br />
of that, you mentioned they seem <strong>to</strong> have a belief system as well. Could you talk about<br />
that?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
<strong>The</strong> <strong>Illuminati</strong> is the continuation of the Mystery Religions <strong>an</strong>d as someone comes <strong>an</strong><br />
adept of the <strong>Illuminati</strong> they have <strong>to</strong> learn a whole series of paths. <strong>The</strong>y give the different<br />
types of cult knowledge names from the 12 Apostles plus the 13th is called the Holy Grail.<br />
<strong>The</strong>se men <strong>an</strong>d women become very skilled in occult knowledge <strong>an</strong>d I am not sure how<br />
much I should go in<strong>to</strong> that, but I guess what I am trying <strong>to</strong> say is that they will be<br />
trained in alchemy, in Indi<strong>an</strong> sorcery, Druidism, Enochi<strong>an</strong> magik, Gnosticism, Hermetic<br />
magik, cabbalism, Pla<strong>to</strong>, Sufism - they will know all the different br<strong>an</strong>ches of occult<br />
systems.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
How do they use that information? Do they incorporate elements of all of those occult<br />
belief systems in<strong>to</strong> their own?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
It all ties in <strong>to</strong>gether. <strong>The</strong> idea is <strong>to</strong> amass occult power <strong>to</strong> yourself <strong>an</strong>d that's the reason<br />
why the Collins family was brought in<strong>to</strong> the <strong>to</strong>p 13 bloodlines. Of course the Merovingi<strong>an</strong><br />
Dynasty had a lot of magik power <strong>an</strong>d a lot of political power, but the Collins family<br />
which was Scottish had extremely powerful occult powers so it was brought in <strong>to</strong> be one<br />
of the <strong>to</strong>p occult lines because they were such powerful black magici<strong>an</strong>s. Cabbalism <strong>an</strong>d<br />
the 26 path workings - this is all very import<strong>an</strong>t in the work that they do, <strong>an</strong>d it all ties in<br />
with the mind control <strong>to</strong>o. But most of the therapists out there are secular or approach it<br />
from the secular <strong>an</strong>gle, <strong>an</strong>d as they deal with these mind control victims' programming,<br />
they don't <strong>to</strong>uch on the spiritual aspect. What I am trying <strong>to</strong> say is that their religious<br />
beliefs c<strong>an</strong>'t be separated from the mind control. It is <strong>an</strong> integral part of that.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
Do the <strong>Illuminati</strong> worship a single being such as Lucifer?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
You've got different levels in which people operate within the <strong>Illuminati</strong>. <strong>The</strong>re is the<br />
<strong>an</strong>archy level which is your common witchcraft coven, <strong>an</strong>d then you've got your<br />
hierarchy level. On the <strong>an</strong>archy level there are thous<strong>an</strong>ds <strong>an</strong>d thous<strong>an</strong>ds of covens. I<br />
have listed the addresses <strong>an</strong>d names of hundreds of these in one of my books. <strong>The</strong>se<br />
covens are very eclectic. <strong>The</strong>y c<strong>an</strong> have their own traditions, their own rituals. <strong>The</strong>re is a<br />
wide variety of practices on the <strong>an</strong>archy level ... that's what it looks like, is <strong>to</strong>tal <strong>an</strong>archy.<br />
One doesn't see <strong>an</strong>y connection.<br />
Above that is your hierarchy level where you would have Asmodeus, your Gr<strong>an</strong>d Masters,<br />
<strong>an</strong>d Mothers of Darkness, Gr<strong>an</strong>dmothers, Gr<strong>an</strong>ddaughters. If you are a programmed<br />
multiple, you c<strong>an</strong> function at m<strong>an</strong>y different levels. You c<strong>an</strong> have one personality in this<br />
coven, <strong>an</strong>d <strong>an</strong>other personality in that coven <strong>an</strong>d this personality that is in the Masonic<br />
Lodge, <strong>an</strong>d <strong>an</strong>other in this hierarchy ceremony, <strong>an</strong>other participating in <strong>an</strong>other Sat<strong>an</strong>ic<br />
ritual. It is very broken up. One of the reasons why it is not easy <strong>to</strong> <strong>an</strong>swer your question<br />
is basically everything we unders<strong>to</strong>od about hum<strong>an</strong> behaviour <strong>an</strong>d how <strong>to</strong> gauge or judge<br />
people is obsolete. <strong>The</strong> mind control, by creating programmed multiple personalities, has<br />
made all of our ways of judging people obsolete.<br />
Within the <strong>Illuminati</strong> the supreme goal is <strong>to</strong> bal<strong>an</strong>ce their good deeds with their bad<br />
deeds, they are dualists. <strong>The</strong>y are Luciferi<strong>an</strong>s at the highest level. That's why your<br />
greatest phil<strong>an</strong>thropist will very often be your highest r<strong>an</strong>king sat<strong>an</strong>ist. What they are<br />
trying <strong>to</strong> do with their phil<strong>an</strong>thropy is self serving when you actually look at it. It's not as<br />
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