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Fritz Springmeier:<br />

It just locks in the control <strong>an</strong>d emphasizes the hopelessness. For a mind controlled slave<br />

who is living in a whole culture that is controlled by these people, why would their mind<br />

ever think of trying <strong>to</strong> get free? <strong>The</strong>ir spirits were broken when they were children, <strong>an</strong>d<br />

everywhere they look they see the control <strong>an</strong>d the programming.<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

This isn't <strong>to</strong> say that some of these tv programs or films have been deliberately made<br />

with mind control in mind, but that they have been used by the programmers?<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

Deliberate is more accurate.<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

So some of these expressions of culture have been deliberately created. Have you looked<br />

in<strong>to</strong> the backgrounds of some of the people involved in producing them?<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

Ducktail Car<strong>to</strong>ons which is put on by Disney contains deliberate triggers for the children.<br />

Deliberate triggers in the advertisements; deliberate messages <strong>an</strong>d codes. In "Deeper<br />

Insights" I spend about fifty pages going in<strong>to</strong> Disney, who Disney was, what they did<br />

behind the scenes, what the movies are all about. Look at "Beauty <strong>an</strong>d the Beast" you<br />

will see <strong>an</strong> ench<strong>an</strong>ted ____clock, or you will see the character Doorknob - protrayed as a<br />

person. That's used in the car<strong>to</strong>on, "Alice in Wonderl<strong>an</strong>d". Those particular sections will<br />

be seen by <strong>an</strong> alter in a person's system, <strong>an</strong>d the mind will be made <strong>to</strong> believe that they<br />

were a doorknob. <strong>The</strong>se are specifically, creatively put in<strong>to</strong> the films for those reasons.<br />

Fritz Springmeier Interview pt2<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

Some of these alters that are created are not even <strong>an</strong>imals or people, they c<strong>an</strong> be<br />

in<strong>an</strong>imate objects.<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

Only a few of the front alters of <strong>an</strong> alter system will realize that they are hum<strong>an</strong>.<br />

Wayne Morris:<br />

You have gone in<strong>to</strong> in the book that I have, "<strong>The</strong> <strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>Formula</strong> ..." quite a bit about<br />

Star Trek. What have you learned about the technical m<strong>an</strong>uals published about Star<br />

Trek?<br />

Fritz Springmeier:<br />

I have observed programmed multiples - some that have been untreated, <strong>an</strong>d some that<br />

have been untreated - who are <strong>to</strong>tally obsessed with everything involved with Star Trek.<br />

A former deprogramming assist<strong>an</strong>t gave me information on the Star Trek programming<br />

<strong>an</strong>d I could sit <strong>an</strong>d confirm it by my own observations of multiples. Over the years a<br />

number of highly technical m<strong>an</strong>uals on Star Trek equipment <strong>an</strong>d themes have been<br />

published. When you look at these m<strong>an</strong>uals - the best way of explaining all the money<br />

<strong>an</strong>d time that was spent <strong>to</strong> develop these complex m<strong>an</strong>uals is that they are serving a<br />

mind control purpose. Knowing how the programming is put in, I know why they were<br />

done a certain way.<br />

Boeing Pl<strong>an</strong>t in Seattle has a lot of tunnels underneath it, <strong>an</strong>d some of those tunnels are<br />

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