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about the Nazis, they were trying to destroy all traces of their crimes. They tried, they
didn't succeed. That gives me some hope that even though a great percentage of the
proof of the mind control in terms of government documentation has been destroyed, I
am still convinced that tons of documents still exist. But I think even better than those
tons of documents are the living proof we have in the tens of thousands of identified
living victims.
The other side to the problem of getting government documents is that then you have to
have some way to broadcast that to the public at large and we have a controlled media,
and unfortunately the media is very tight with the government. You can really question
whether you would ever see our controlled media fully expose to the proper degree the
people that need to be exposed.
Wayne Morris:
It seems highly unlikely that the mainstream media is going to be investigating this. It's
more likely to be coming from independent investigation and independent publishers of
this information.
Fritz Springmeier:
I would love to see the places where the records are kept broken into and these records
exposed, but the only way I can see this happening would be if there was a revolution on
the magnitude of what happened in Eastern Europe where Stasi records and things like
this were exposed to the light of day.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think a government investigation into the mind control experiments, similar to
what has happened with the Tuskegee syphilis and the radiation experiments would
actually bring out information?
Fritz Springmeier:
I believe it would bring out information. That's true. However, for the government to
investigate this is like asking the fox how much of a threat he is to chickens. The fox is
going to tell us something, enough to satisfy us, but I am real leery about giving the
government another chance to push some ulterior agenda. The bottom line is that a
government investigation is going to cost us more tax dollars, and I think people
sometimes forget that every time they send their government scurrying around doing
something that it comes out of their pocketbook.
Wayne Morris:
Do you think there is any benefit though, to society as a whole, in terms of having a
government investigation going on, and having the government at least admit they did
do these kinds of experiments? Is there any benefit to the people as a whole in trying to
expose this?
Fritz Springmeier:
As a whole? The way you ask your question is going to reflect the way I answer. No, it
will not. The reason why I say this is that earlier on the US Congress had Rockefeller
investigate the CIA. Rockefeller investigate the CIA!?! (Laughs) Of course his
investigating committee came up with abuses, they have got to find something wrong,
but the thing of it is that it makes Rockefeller look like a good fellow. "Oh look he's a
crusader who is trying to expose the bad guys." They always throw in an ulterior agenda.
If they are going to do something against themselves, they use it as another opportunity
to work on some other agenda. If they expose A, B and C about mind control, then they
are probably doing it in a way so they are misdirecting people's attention from their
latest technology through an older model that they have discontinued, or something like
that. They are going to work in some ulterior agenda that when it's all said and done, it
has actually done a disservice.
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