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much because there came out a trilogy of books, "<strong>The</strong> Holy Blood <strong>an</strong>d the Holy Grail" <strong>an</strong>d<br />
two other books by their authors - Baigent, Leigh <strong>an</strong>d Lincoln - which is so good in<br />
discussing this bloodline that wasn't <strong>an</strong>y real reason for me <strong>to</strong> go in<strong>to</strong> it.<br />
For inst<strong>an</strong>ce Prince Charles would be part of that. If you look at Prince Charles, you will<br />
notice in his genealogy he is related <strong>to</strong> our Presidents Washing<strong>to</strong>n, Jefferson, Madison,<br />
both of the Harrisons, Tyler, Taylor, George Bush. Bush's vice president, D<strong>an</strong> Quayle,<br />
was also related <strong>to</strong> the royal family. Prince Charles is also related <strong>to</strong> Mrs. Woodrow<br />
Wilson. Here in the USA the concept is that we have all of these individuals who have<br />
been selected <strong>to</strong> run this country who are unrelated <strong>to</strong> each other -- <strong>an</strong>d yet it is quite<br />
the contrary.<br />
I have been <strong>to</strong>ld when they dedicated George Bush's library in Texas recently, that<br />
President Carter mentioned that he was reading a recently published book about the<br />
Presidents being somehow related <strong>to</strong> each other.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
When did you first realize the existence of the <strong>Illuminati</strong>? What information came your<br />
way <strong>to</strong> spark your interest?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
Everybody has probably heard of Jehovah's Witnesses <strong>an</strong>d how they would go out <strong>an</strong>d<br />
knock on people's doors. I was the opposite. I was a Christi<strong>an</strong> missionary <strong>to</strong> bring<br />
Jehovah's Witnesses <strong>to</strong> Christ <strong>an</strong>d I was getting tired of working with these little<br />
Jehovah's Witnesses on the street, <strong>an</strong>d I was praying <strong>to</strong> God <strong>to</strong> be given the power <strong>to</strong><br />
decapitate the authoritari<strong>an</strong> org<strong>an</strong>ization that is over these Jehovah's Witnesses. At that<br />
point, I got my prayer <strong>an</strong>swered. I got this confidential information that the heads of the<br />
Watch<strong>to</strong>wer Society were collaborating with the heads of the Latter Day Saints church.<br />
That information <strong>to</strong>tally ch<strong>an</strong>ged my life. I had bumped in<strong>to</strong> the <strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>an</strong>d their mind<br />
control, <strong>an</strong>d I am not <strong>to</strong> single out the Watch<strong>to</strong>wer Society <strong>an</strong>d the Mormon church<br />
because I found out that their infiltration <strong>an</strong>d control is pretty well right across the whole<br />
spectrum. Your Christi<strong>an</strong> org<strong>an</strong>izations in general have been infiltrated <strong>an</strong>d controlled<br />
from behind the scenes.<br />
This is when I first bumped in<strong>to</strong> the <strong>Illuminati</strong>. I had learned about 20 years previous <strong>to</strong><br />
this what a lot of people are already aware of about the Council of Foreign Relations,<br />
Trilaterial Commission <strong>an</strong>d these types of groups, the Bilderbergers - but there is a whole<br />
other level <strong>to</strong> things. When I started getting in<strong>to</strong> reading, researching <strong>an</strong>d trying <strong>to</strong> help<br />
people that w<strong>an</strong>ted out of the <strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>to</strong> get out - I started getting in at that level.<br />
<strong>The</strong>n I had <strong>to</strong> work with the mind control. One thing led <strong>to</strong> <strong>an</strong>other.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
What is the relationship of the groups you just mentioned <strong>to</strong> the <strong>Illuminati</strong>?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
<strong>The</strong>re are a lot of groups around the world that are making decisions that are controlling<br />
things from behind the scenes <strong>an</strong>d these particular groups are fronts for the <strong>Illuminati</strong>.<br />
Not fronts in the sense that they have no actual purpose, they serve a purpose. But there<br />
is a hidden level of control back behind them.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
In terms of the <strong>Illuminati</strong> families <strong>an</strong>d the whole org<strong>an</strong>ization itself, what are their goals?<br />
Why have they infiltrated so m<strong>an</strong>y of these org<strong>an</strong>izations?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
Ultimately it's <strong>to</strong> bring in what people have termed the New World Order with a m<strong>an</strong> who<br />
will hold the world's attention <strong>an</strong>d carry the title <strong>The</strong> Antichrist. That's the ultimate goal<br />
<strong>an</strong>d I am not trying <strong>to</strong> wax religious on people but that's just the simple fact. When you<br />
get in<strong>to</strong> deprogramming people you will see that a lot of the things they have been<br />
programmed <strong>to</strong> do tie in with a very sophisticated pl<strong>an</strong> <strong>to</strong> unify the world under the reign<br />
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