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What are the d<strong>an</strong>gers involved in dealing with therapy with a mind control victim,<br />
particularly when a therapist may be unaware of the techniques <strong>an</strong>d structures of mind<br />
control?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
I have <strong>to</strong> caution people that some of the best minds of the 20th century - we have<br />
hundreds, if not thous<strong>an</strong>ds, of the best minds who have spent m<strong>an</strong>y, m<strong>an</strong>y years figuring<br />
out how <strong>to</strong> build these mech<strong>an</strong>isms in<strong>to</strong> the mind slaves <strong>to</strong> protect the programming. In<br />
a sense what it is like - imagine you are going in <strong>to</strong> try <strong>an</strong>d hack a computer - imagine a<br />
system that is set up so that if someone is not <strong>an</strong> approved user comes in<strong>to</strong> the room<br />
<strong>an</strong>d looks at the computer, the computer shuts down, the computer explodes. That's<br />
really what you are looking at in trying <strong>to</strong> work with a mind control victim - they have a<br />
lot of suicide programming so that if the front alters, the personalities that hold the body<br />
day in <strong>an</strong>d day out - if they were ever <strong>to</strong> find out they were in mind control, or that they<br />
were a multiple personality, they would commit suicide. You have all kinds of defensive<br />
programs. Not only is the computer programmed <strong>to</strong> explode if you walk in<strong>to</strong> the room,<br />
but if you <strong>to</strong>uch the keyboard as <strong>an</strong> unauthorized user, again the computer is<br />
programmed <strong>to</strong> explode. Every step of the way there are backup programs <strong>to</strong> deceive, <strong>to</strong><br />
destroy. It is not easy. It is something the novice does not w<strong>an</strong>t <strong>to</strong> get in<strong>to</strong>. It's<br />
something that takes a lot of time <strong>an</strong>d patience <strong>an</strong>d skill, <strong>an</strong>d a lot of love for the victims<br />
<strong>to</strong>o. One has <strong>to</strong> really abhor what is going on <strong>to</strong> have the motivation that it takes <strong>to</strong> work<br />
with such a complex problem.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
What would you recommend for therapists w<strong>an</strong>ting <strong>to</strong> know more about how this is done,<br />
<strong>an</strong>d how they c<strong>an</strong> help heal the victims?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
I strongly recommend our three books - I co-authored these 3 books with Cisco Wheeler.<br />
<strong>The</strong> one I already mentioned, "<strong>The</strong> <strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>Formula</strong> <strong>Used</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>Create</strong> a Total Mind<br />
Controlled Slave". <strong>The</strong> sequel <strong>to</strong> that which is 620 pages, "Deeper Insights in<strong>to</strong> the<br />
<strong>Illuminati</strong> <strong>Formula</strong>", part 1 is how the control comes about <strong>an</strong>d part 2 is how the help<br />
comes about. We've got a lot of good information in there laying the foundation as <strong>to</strong><br />
what's happened, <strong>an</strong>d how <strong>to</strong> begin <strong>to</strong> unravel what has happened.<br />
Wayne Morris:<br />
In terms of your own work, how much success have you had in working with victims of<br />
mind control?<br />
Fritz Springmeier:<br />
<strong>The</strong> problem that the mind control presents is overwhelming, <strong>an</strong>d there are countless<br />
therapeutic issues, so there is no end <strong>to</strong> the different issues that c<strong>an</strong> be worked on. Cisco<br />
<strong>an</strong>d I have freely given of our time <strong>to</strong> help <strong>an</strong>y victim of mind control in whatever way we<br />
could. <strong>The</strong> degree of therapeutic success depends on a number of things. One, it depends<br />
upon the situation the victim puts themselves in. If they are willing <strong>to</strong> extract themselves<br />
from their everyday life <strong>an</strong>d go somewhere where it is safe, they are going <strong>to</strong> do a lot<br />
more - work more therapeutic issues, because the mind of a mind controlled slave is not<br />
going <strong>to</strong> let its guard down as long as it's not safe. This gets back in<strong>to</strong> underst<strong>an</strong>ding<br />
how the reptili<strong>an</strong> mind <strong>an</strong>d the survival based thinking c<strong>an</strong> override other areas of the<br />
mind. When you become deathly frightened for your life, your survival instincts take<br />
precedence over the other parts of your brain. If you have been traumatized your entire<br />
life, your survival based thinking is your primary method of thinking <strong>an</strong>d it doesn't take<br />
much <strong>to</strong> throw you in<strong>to</strong> the fear based survival based thinking. So the first criteria for<br />
doing successful work with a mind control victim is <strong>to</strong> get them someplace safe. You<br />
could say that 99.9% of the victims of mind control have never been given that.<br />
<strong>The</strong>rapists do not set things up for survivors or victims of mind control <strong>to</strong> be in <strong>an</strong>y safe<br />
situation. When I say safe, I me<strong>an</strong> they have <strong>to</strong> be safe 24 hours a day.<br />
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