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Wayne Morris:
How do you think the information about mind control has been kept from public attention
for so long?
Fritz Springmeier:
As we mentioned just a little bit earlier, we have a controlled media and in a number of
my publications I have gone into detail and showed who is in control of the media, and
how these people are Illuminati members or participating in their Illuminati fronts. I
document how the Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds and the William Randolph Hearsts -
Illuminati kingpins - control the media. I think it's appropriate a couple of anecdotes.
I was visiting one day with a Christian minister and he was asking me what I did since I
worked full time exposing the mind control and helping victims of mind control, and
exposing the New World Order's agenda. I was honest with him, and told him that and in
the course of doing that I mentioned something about the controlled media and boy he
hit the roof. He went ballistic on me because just prior to becoming a minister he had
been an ABC reporter. He said, "there is no control over the media! I was allowed to
write and have any stories that I wanted!" I said, "whoa, slow down, let me ask you
some questions." When you were hired, your superior hired you and kept you on because
he liked the way you thought and the way you wrote ... and likewise his superior liked
the way he thought and the way he wrote ... and on and on down the line. If anybody
had written or thought in ways that weren't the approved ways of thinking and writing
you would have gotten in trouble, wouldn't you. He said "yes." I said, that's it ... when I
work with victims of mind control they can't see that they are under programming. As
long as they do exactly what the programming asks them to do, they don't know that
they are in programming. The only time that they know that there is any programming
there is if they step out and act against it. If you are running with the wind behind your
back or if you are in a stream and you are floating down the stream, you don't notice the
current. But when you try to swim upstream is when you really notice the power of the
current. So if you as a reporter step out of what their expectations are, that's when you
get clobbered and you realize there is a lot of heavy force behind going against the
direction the way they want to go in. He said, "you're right." I said if you had written an
article that had been contrary to the way your boss thought, you would have been in
trouble, wouldn't you? He said, "yes, you are right, I see your point."
That's my point. People don't notice the control until you start bucking against that
control and then you are going to find out how much control there is over our entire
society.
Wayne Morris:
It seems that control in the newsrooms is almost at an unspoken level, and often for a lot
of reporters it's an economic motivation as well. The stories that their editors do get
accepted, the stories the editors don't like don't get accepted and the reporters don't get
paid for it. They very quickly appreciate what their editors are going to accept and print.
Fritz Springmeier:
Exactly.
Wayne Morris:
I would like to talk about the mind control that the Illuminati have used and the
techniques therein. What is your understanding of the forms of mind control they have
used?
Fritz Springmeier:
The phrase that I like to use is "Total Mind Control" because it totally controls the person
- body, soul and spirit. And the common person out there has never really imagined that
something so all-encompassing or so horrendous or so totally powerful even exists. The
type of mind control the Illuminati use - I think some people think "oh, mind control -
television - yeah - subliminals." No. I am talking about something that is 1000 or 10,000
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