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you, you destroy those people.”<br />

“That’s easy to say—”<br />

“You smear <strong>the</strong>m.”<br />

“That’s easy for <strong>the</strong> person to say, but she’s <strong>the</strong> one on that program smearing me.”<br />

As for Richard Behar, <strong>the</strong> Time reporter, Miscavige remarked, “The man was on record<br />

on two occasions attempting to get Scientologists kidnapped. That is an illegal act.”<br />

The hour had ended, but Miscavige had just made ano<strong>the</strong>r unsupported allegation.<br />

Koppel decided to extend <strong>the</strong> show “a few minutes,” but it went on ano<strong>the</strong>r half hour<br />

without any commercial breaks. He asked Miscavige to explain what he meant about<br />

Behar. “Some people had called him up <strong>and</strong> he was telling <strong>the</strong>m to kidnap Scientologists<br />

out,” Miscavige said.<br />

“Now, kidnapping, as you well know, is a federal crime,” Koppel observed. “So, why<br />

didn’t you bring charges against him?”<br />

“He didn’t succeed,” Miscavige said. “Ted, Ted, you’re missing <strong>the</strong> point.”<br />

“There is such a thing as attempted rape, attempted murder, attempted kidnapping.<br />

It’s also a crime.”<br />

“I think you’re really missing <strong>the</strong> issue, Ted, because my point is this: That man<br />

represents himself as an objective reporter. Here he is on record a full three years before<br />

he wrote this article, stating that he felt Scientologists should be kidnapped to change<br />

<strong>the</strong>ir religion.<br />

“Second <strong>of</strong> all,” Miscavige continued, “let’s look at this article, <strong>and</strong> let’s not fool<br />

ourselves. It wasn’t an objective piece. It was done at <strong>the</strong> behest <strong>of</strong> Eli Lilly,” <strong>the</strong><br />

pharmaceutical manufacturer. “They were upset because <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> damage we had caused<br />

to <strong>the</strong>ir killer drug Prozac.”<br />

“I’m sure you have evidence <strong>of</strong> that,” Koppel said. “You have affidavits?”<br />

“Let me tell you what else I have—”<br />

“You have affidavits?”<br />

“From <strong>the</strong>m? Of course not. You think <strong>the</strong>y’d admit it?” Miscavige said. “We put in a<br />

call to Eli Lilly. Their response was, ‘We can nei<strong>the</strong>r confirm nor deny.’ ” 1<br />

In Sawyer’s report <strong>the</strong>re was a brief clip <strong>of</strong> Hubbard telling his followers, “I was up in<br />

<strong>the</strong> Van Allen Belt. This is factual. And I don’t know why <strong>the</strong>y’re scared <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Van Allen<br />

Belt, because it’s simply hot. You’d be surprised how warm space is.” Koppel observed,<br />

“When I hear about a man talking about having been taken out to <strong>the</strong> Van Allen space<br />

radiation belt or space ships that were essentially <strong>the</strong> same thing as <strong>the</strong> DC-8, I’ve got to<br />

tell you, I mean, if we’re talking about this man’s credibility, that certainly raises some<br />

questions in my mind.”<br />

Miscavige said that Hubbard’s quote had been taken out <strong>of</strong> context.<br />

“Take a minute, if you would, <strong>and</strong> see if you can put it into context for us so that it<br />

does not sound ridiculous,” Koppel said.<br />

“Okay,” said Miscavige. “I want you to take <strong>the</strong> Catholic Church <strong>and</strong> take right now<br />

<strong>and</strong> explain to me, to make sense that <strong>the</strong> Virgin Mary was a virgin, scientically<br />

impossible, unless we’re talking about something …” He trailed o, <strong>the</strong>n said, “Okay,<br />

I’ll be like you, I’ll be <strong>the</strong> cynic. If we’re talking about articial insemination, how could

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