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Abolitionist Imaginingstrans women of color, could access. It challenged me to make sure I wasnot leaving myself at the door when I entered abolitionist spaces. Thisreminded me of the legacy of trans people resisting state violence <strong>and</strong>whose stories have been suppressed both in <strong>and</strong> out of abolitionist movements.So for my own politicization process it wasn’t just what caughtmy attention, but what held <strong>and</strong> challenged me, what grew my soul <strong>and</strong>sense of somebodiness. This means to me that politicization is a sacredmoment—a sacred process—<strong>and</strong> throughout my life sacred spaces haveheld <strong>and</strong> increased those moments <strong>and</strong> processes.CG: “PIC abolitionism” indexes so many apparatuses of state violence,surveillance, <strong>and</strong> policing, as well as modes of resistance, healing, <strong>and</strong>accountability. How you do make the concept politically intelligible <strong>and</strong>tangible through your own work?DR: I’ll spend anything from many minutes to many hours (dependingon who I’m talking to <strong>and</strong> working with) illustrating how the formationof the prison <strong>and</strong> policing regimes are inseparable from the apparatuses ofracial genocide on which the United States is based. How is the prison aparadigmatically anti-black genocidal institution? Where do we find theconnections between policing <strong>and</strong> the l<strong>and</strong> displacement, cultural genocide,<strong>and</strong> geographic incarceration of native <strong>and</strong> indigenous peoples in<strong>and</strong> beyond North America? What is the concept of “civil death” <strong>and</strong>how does it shape a society in which 2 million people are locked up bythe state? What’s the critical difference between an activism that addresses“police brutality” <strong>and</strong> one that addresses “police violence” or even domesticwarfare? If we ask—<strong>and</strong> begin to answer—questions like this, we c<strong>and</strong>emystify the prison’s apparent normalcy <strong>and</strong> political invincibility, <strong>and</strong>build a different set of historical <strong>and</strong> political assumptions that recast ourunderst<strong>and</strong>ing of the prison regime as a focal point of a collective, radicalpolitical creativity—abolitionism—that takes seriously the monumentalchallenges of freedom, liberation, self-determination, <strong>and</strong> anti-violence.I’ll put it another way: If one is willing to commit to an unapologetic,rigorous analysis of what prisons are, where they come from, <strong>and</strong>what they do, in a way that respects <strong>and</strong> challenges the intellect <strong>and</strong> sensibilitiesof the person or people one is engaging, the abolitionist positionmakes more sense than not. This is not to say that we don’t need to engagein simultaneous conversations about how to deal with repressive, oppressive,<strong>and</strong> exploitative forms of structural violence that would not simply327

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