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<strong>Captive</strong> <strong>Genders</strong>disappear with the abolition of the prison regime. Rather, it’s to say thatsimply establishing the abolitionist concept as something that’s groundedin a historical analysis <strong>and</strong> political logic results in different sets of urgentquestions that no longer presume the existence of policing, imprisonment,or even the militarized nation-state itself.BB: If you’re about your politics, you know that all that shit comes outof the same asshole. It’s all about who runs it, who profits from it: There’sa medical industrial complex, a prison industrial complex, a business industrialcomplex—it’s all about the wealthy getting wealthier. It’s all connected.So you have to look at all that. I’m working toward a world inwhich we don’t really need a prison industrial complex, a world that treatspeople like human beings, a world that doesn’t create a War on Drugs, aworld that doesn’t destroy the education system <strong>and</strong> determines that thepeople who are somehow classified as “uneducable” or the wrong color orthe wrong class will be tracked to prison, because there will be no jobsavailable to them, etc. A more equitable world, a more humane world, aworld that’s not about money—that’s the primary thing—a world that’snot about slavery.RG: I’ve spent a lot of time wondering about how abolition is tangible inmy work, <strong>and</strong> I have shifted in my practice in making abolitionist politicsreal. While I was involved with CR I put energy into creating a tangibleabolitionist practice by challenging people to wonder if incarceration wasa solution to violence by asking a lot of questions; the campaign to stopNew York City from building a new jail in the South Bronx on a toxicl<strong>and</strong> site, slated to be a women’s jail with a nursery, fit really well into this.Because we had been organizing to mobilize large-scale communityopposition to the jail, we created a good moment to highlight how reforming<strong>and</strong> managing the prison industrial complex rather than abolitionfar too often leads to an expansion of state violence. In that case, thestate used the fact that Rikers Isl<strong>and</strong> was (<strong>and</strong> is) in horrible condition<strong>and</strong> completely inaccessible for people to visit, as an excuse to build pristinenew neighborhood jails so that communities could access their lovedones more easily in prison. So it became an important moment to engagethe state <strong>and</strong> organize to stop this escalation of state violence.After my involvement in the campaign <strong>and</strong> witnessing how oftencampaigns can make it hard for folks to not burn out, I moved into theplace of wondering how to make abolition intelligible through a range of328

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