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Abolitionist Imaginingsrelevant questions such as How do we protect ourselves, each other, <strong>and</strong>practice justice without getting the state involved?CG: What kinds of political alternatives does the abolitionist movementoffer in the face of current prevailing “post-racial” <strong>and</strong> neoliberal ideology?DR: I can speak in a very incomplete way to what abolitionism can offerin terms of a radical racial, anti-racist politics. In my interpretation of it,the logic of an abolitionist position is that it is a direct <strong>and</strong> radical historicalconfrontation with the living legacies of anti-black racial slavery, racialcolonialism, white supremacist nation-building, as they’ve differentlyconverged in a nation-building project. So one of the most compellingpolitical alternatives abolition can offer is a pedagogical commitment tolearning <strong>and</strong> teaching how these systems are central to our everyday, historicalpresent. The fraudulence of a “post-racial” (or even “post-racist”)society is not hard to show—you can just go to the US government’s ownsocioeconomic <strong>and</strong> criminal justice data to demystify the bullshit—butwhat’s far more difficult is building a racial/anti-racist politics that is aboutliberation rather than reform <strong>and</strong> the abolition of genocide rather thangenocide management.BB: We are not post-racial; we have racism that occurs every fucking day.I think they should not be fooled by the hype: Who owns the media? It’snot people of color. I would say the media takes this <strong>and</strong> that <strong>and</strong> saysthis movement [Obama’s election] means we’re past race; this in itself is anew chapter of racism. It’s a way of saying, we don’t have to worry aboutthat anymore, even though we know that racism occurs every day in ourlives <strong>and</strong> all around us. Don’t be fooled by the bullshit. They’ll [the bigmoney that owns media] take any opportunity, they pay people millionsof dollars to figure out how to talk to us <strong>and</strong> convince us that things aredifferent than how they are. If racism had ended, there wouldn’t be morethan two million, gazillion, however many people of in prison; 60 to 70percent of them are people of color. Who gets jobs? Who has the highestunemployment rates? All the numbers are there: We are not past racism. Ittook us 500 <strong>and</strong> however many years to get us where we are; it’s not gonnachange in a day or in one election. We made a step maybe, which they’lltry <strong>and</strong> take away from us as soon as they can. But I mean what the fuckis the Tea Party about? It’s not about “tea”; it ain’t about “trans,” either.341

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