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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`darwmunebuli var, oqtomberSi19 wlis fexburTelis, giorgigiorgi abaSiZeSaqaraSvilis sadisturma mkv-lelobam mxolod mTeli qveyana kiar SeZra, aramed winasaarCevnod politikuri dRis wesrigicSecvala, anu miuxedavad imisa, rom „ocnebis” spikerebs gamo-ZiebasTan kiTxvebi ar gaaCniaT da acxadeben, tragediis politikurimiznebisTvis gamoyeneba ar SeiZlebao, faqtia: sisxlianmadabadebis dRem sazogadoebis absolutur umravleso-baSi daucvelobisa da usamarTlobis gancda gaamZafra. ise,niSandoblivia, rom „ocneba” xelisuflebaSi swored msgavsitragediebis fonze movida, anu yvelas gvaxsovs arCil kbilaSvilisgancxadeba, romelmac mTavar prokurorad daniSvnisdros Tqva, _ girgvlianis, vazagaSvilisa da sxvaTa trage-diebi rom ar yofiliyo, Cven arCevnebs ver movigebdiTo. axlaki ise gamodis, rom „ocneba” winamorbedis Secdomebs imeorebsda Tundac amitomac „Saqaras” mkvleloba rigiTi krimi-nali ki ara, garkveulwilad, sistemuri danaSaulia!yvelafer amis paralelurad„ocnebas” myari poziciebi arcsaerTaSoriso TanamegobrobaSiaqvs. yovel SemTxvevaSi, zustadmaSin, roca „eTnikur da konfesiururTierTobaTa centris” xe-lmZRvanel lela jejelavasTan„qronika+~ intervius werda, cno-bili gaxda, rom aSS-is kongresmasaqarTvelosTvisdaxmarebis15%-iT gayinvis iniciativaspirveli mosmeniT dauWira mxari.Sesabamisad, Cvens saubarSi krim-inali, sistemuri danaSauli dadidi politika erTmaneTs, asevTqvaT, gadaeba:_ qalbatono lela, kriminaliyvelgan da yovelTvis xdeba da,Sesabamisad, giorgi SaqaraSvilismkvlelobac Tavidan SesaZloa,rigiTi kriminali iyo, magram,dRevandeli mocemulobiT, amtragediam politikuri dRis wes-rigi Secvala. Tqveni azriT, aseratom moxda?_ geTanxmebiT, rom kriminaliyvela qveyanaSi da yvela drosxdeba, magram am mravalmoqmedebianmatragediam, romelic axalgazrdabiWis gardacvalebas ukavSirdeba,im viTarebis mTeli tragizmiwarmoaCina, sadac Cveni sazogadoebada saxelmwifo imyofeba._ „mravalmoqmedebianSi” rasgulisxmobT?_ jer erTi, axalgazrdebis ur-TierTobas, anu tragikuli SemTxvevisSemdeg, im detalebis mixedviT,rac mediiT viciT, axalgazrdebismoqmedeba auxsneli daucnauria _ Cxubis Semdeg erTmane-Ti ar moikiTxes da sadResaswaulosufra gaagrZeles. meore damTavari _ gamoZiebaSi yoveli dReaxal kiTxvis niSans aCens. saer-Tod, aseTi tragedia mxolod er-Ti konkretuli ojaxis ki ara,mTeli saxelmwifos tragediaa, radgankriminali gaizarda da axalgazrdebisada, zogadad, adamianebissicocxle daucvelia. amasTan,samarTaldamcveli organoebis mimarTndoba ar arsebobs da amitomsazogadoeba, ufro konkretulad,media _ alternatiul gamo-Ziebas atarebs. Sesabamisad, sam kvirazemetia, TiToeuli Cvenganiudidesi stresis qveS vimyofebiTda sikvdilTan, praqtikulad,yoveldRiuri Sexeba gvaqvs!_ xoravas quCis tragediaSimirza subelianis ojaxis axlobelifigurirebda, ris gamoc ofi-cialuri uwyebebi saqmis „gasu-fTavebas” cdilobdnen, magramSaqaraSvilis saqmis argaxsna,Tqveni azriT, saxelmwifos ratomawyobs? gasagebia, rom fotogr-afi Sss-s pressamsaxuris xelmZR-vanel nino giorgobianis ojaxiswevria, magram gamoZieba mxolodamis gamo ferxdeba Tu SeiZleba,sxva sababic arsebobdes?_ amas ver getyviT, magram faqtia,rom or kviraze metia, televiziiT„kawros” Sesaxeb saubrobenda ramdenime dRis win es adamianigamokiTxvazec daibares. weRandeliTqmisa ar iyos, am saqmeze Seusabamoinformaciebs vigebT. ai, magaliTad,advokatebis xelSi Sem-TxveviT piradi cxovrebis kadrebiaRmoCnda. amasTan, SesaZlo danaSauliserT-erTi mniSvnelovaniadgili aseve SemTxveviT daiwva.garda amisa, gamoZaxebis adgilzeSemTxveviT saswrafoc ar mivida.mokled, imdeni „SemTxveviTobaa”,rom saxelmwifo raRacis gamoZalian gaixlarTa, magram es raRacra aris, ar viciT. amaze pasuxi Tavadsaxelmwifom unda gasces!_ ise, saxelmwifom pasuxi bevrrameze unda gasces. ai, Tundacimaze, rom rogorc am wuTebSigavige, aSS-is kongresma pirvelimosmeniT daamtkica kanonproeqti,romlis Tanaxmadac, ameriku-li daxmarebebis 15% gagveyineba,anu „ocnebis” qmedebebis gamo saqarTvelosprodasavluri realoba,nebsiT Tu uneblieT, icvle-ba?_ prodasavluri realoba aricvleba, magram imis mkafio niSnebi,„ocneba” rogor realobaSicSeiZleba, aRmoCndes, ukve saxezea.roca xelisufleba cud mdgomareobaSiaRmoCndeba, cxadia, es mTelqveyanaze aisaxeba._ amerikuli daxmarebebis 15procentiT SesaZlo gayivna Ti-Toeul Cvenganze rogor aisaxe-ba?_ es Tanxa SeiZleba, Zalian didiaraa _ rogorc vici, sul 20milion dolarzea saubari, magramamas ekonomikurze metad politikurimniSvneloba aqvs. es alarmia!_ anu?_ es saqarTvelos xelisuflebisadmigafrTxilebaa, rom valdebulia,is pirobebi Seasrulos,rasac amerikis SeerTebul StatebTanpartnioroba gulisxmobs!_ amerikis SeerTebul Stat-ebTan partniorobis erT-erTipiroba demokratia da samarTlianobaa,magram igive „SaqaraSvi-lis saqme” mowmobs, rom qveyanaSiusamarTlobaa gamefebuli, maSas-adame, „ocnebas” amerikuli sanqciebi,momiteveT da, fexze kid-ia, ara?_ ufro rbilad vityvi _ xelisuflebases gafrTxileba Sei-Zleba, ar ainteresebs._ ratom?_ veWvob, „ocnebas” procesebimizanmimarTulad mihyavs iqiTken,rom qveyana aSS-sa da, saerTod,civilizebuli dasavleTis orbitasCamoaSoros! saqarTvelosSesaxeb Canaweri aSS-is usafrTxoebisim dokumentSi gaCnda, romelsac13 kongresmeni awers xels, racimas niSnavs, rom aSS saqarTvelosTanpartniorobas ise ganixilavs,rogorc Tavisi usafrTxoebisada geostrategiuli interesebisnawils. Sesabamisad, aSS sakuTariusafrTxoebisa da geostrategiuliinteresebis dacva-Si Zalian Tanmimdevruli iqneba.lela jejelava:_ e. i., Tu TeTri saxli „oc-nebis” xelisuflebis calkeulwarmomadgenlebs sanqciebs dau-wesebs da, amasTan, saqarTvelosdaxmarebebis 15 procentsac gauyinavs,amiT aSS sakuTar geo-strategiul interesebs daicavs?_ rasakvirvelia. zogadad, aSSTavisi usafrTxoebisa da geostrategiuliinteresebis dasacavadmis xelT arsebul yvela berketsgamoiyenebs! partniorobacalmxrivi araa, anu partniorobisdokumenti ormxrivad gvaqvs gaformebulida am ormxriv dokumentSiCveni valdebulebebi gvaqvs._ mesmis, magram Tu „ocneba”gafrTxilebebsa da sanqciebs angariSsar gauwevs, aSS Cvens saSinaosaqmeebSi ver Caereva da sab-olood, Tavs dagvanebebs da gve-tyvis, kiseric gitexiaTo. hoda,„ocnebac” CrdiloeTisken gaagr-Zelebs svlagezs. vcdebi?_ saqme ase martivadac araa,samarcxvinoa, roca saqarTvelos parlamentSiaris deputati (yavelaSvili), romelic verxvdeba da verc gansxvavebas grZnobs, rasniSnavs, roca ruseTis romelime sportulgundSi qarTvelic TamaSobs da - amerikelic!ruseTs aSS-is teritoriebi okupirebuli araqvs da `ocnebis~ deputats, roca amgvarianalogia mohyavs, nuTu, ar rcxvenia? mTelitragizmi is aris, rom gaazrebulic ar aqvs,ra tipis sibriyve Tqva!~`SaqaraSvilismravalmoqmedebianmadramam im viTarebistragizmi warmoaCina,romelSic saxelmwifoimyofeba!~rom xelisuflebam is gaakeTos,rac moundeba. sxvaTa Soris, axlaxanamerikelma kongresmenma,mark malenma, „mTavars” interviumisca da ganacxada, _ vimedeovneb,aSS-is saxelmwifo administraciasmale im mtkicebulebebs warvudgenT,rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebaruseTsa da iranTan Tanam-Sromlobso._ qalbatono lela, ratomggoniaT, rom Cveni xelisuflebaTavis kurssa da politikas ammtkicebulebebis wardgenis Sem-deg mainc Secvlis?_ saqarTvelos usafrTxoebisdoqtriniT ruseTi mtrul saxelmwifodaaaRiarebuli._ mere?_ Tu Cven, saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs,dagvideben mtkicebulebas,rom Cveni xelisufleba, piradiinteresebidan gamomdinare,mterTan TanamSromlobs, TiToeuliCvengani rogor moviqceviT _wavalT da arCevnebze mainc masmivcemT xmas?_ me, Tqven da kidev bevrmaSeiZleba, „ocnebas” xma ar mivceT,magram ar dagaviwydeT, rom amqveyanaSi prorusuli ganwyobebigazrdilia. yovel SemTxvevaSi,isini, romlebsac „moskovebSi 37maneTad frenis” nostalgia aqvT,cotani ar arian!_ aseTi adamianebi iseTi bevrnicar arian, rom maT poziciasarCevnebze gadamwyveti mniSvnelobahqondes! saerTod, eleqtoralurimosaxleobis sakmaod seriozulnawils axalgazrdoba warmoadgensda gasuli wlis 20 ivnissam axalgazrdobis ganwyoba vnaxeT_ rogorc ki mtruli saxelmwifoswarmomadgeneli saqarTvelos parlamentSidainaxes, spontanuradda impulsurad quCaSi gamovidnen!Cemi azriT, SeuZlebelia, amerikelkongresmens, winare pirobebis gareSe,is gancxadeba gaekeTebina, romelicgaakeTa. Sesabamisad, TukiruseTsa da iranTan TanamSromlobisdokumentebi gaCndeba, rogorfiqrobT, saqarTvelos axalgazrdobaras izams? vinme fiqrobs,rom arCevnebze am xelisuflebiswinaaRmdeg ar miscems xmas?_ cxadia, miscems, magram amkonteqstSi Tornike Sengeliasrusul sakalaTburTo klubSigadasvla, ufro sworad, amaze„ocnebis” reaqciebi ganvixiloT.ai, magaliTad, deputatma yave-1010 N15 (317) 14.07-20.07.2020 w.
laSvilma ganacxada, rusul klu-bebSi amerikelebic TamaSoben daSengelias Tavi daanebeTo. yave-laSvilis es gancxadeba tipuri„qocuri” narativia Tu ara?_ samarcxvinoa, roca saqarTvelosparlamentSi aris deputati(yavelaSvili), romelic ver xvdebada verc gansxvavebas grZnobs,ras niSnavs, roca ruseTis romelimesportul gundSi qarTvelicTamaSobs da _ amerikelic! ruseTsaSS-is teritoriebi okupirebuliar aqvs da „ocnebis” deputats,roca amgvari analogia mohyavs,nuTu, ar rcxvenia? mTeli tragizmiis aris, rom gaazrebulicar aqvs, ra tipis sibriyve Tqva!_ „qocebis” umetesobisTvissibriyve xom „dedis rZesaviTaa”,qalbatono lela!_ Tqven, ra, imas meubnebiT, romCveni qveynis mosaxleobis umetesoba„qocia”? ase namdvilad araa!_ geTanxmebiT, magram e. w. Sua-Sisturi sazogadoebac mravalricxovania,romelsac arc „qoce-bi” unda da arc _ „nacebi”._ „SuaSistur sazogadoebas”SeiZleba, erTi an meore partia armoswondes, magram qveynis mterTaneWvmitanil xelisuflebas xmasarasodes miscems!_ RmerTma qnas, magram Tu ardarwmunda, rom xelisuflebisSecvla gardauvalia, mosaxle-obam SeiZleba, xeli Caiqnios daopozicias ndoba ar gamoucxa-dos, miT umetes, rom opoziciurorbitazec, rogorc irkveva,didi ryevebia._ ra proeqtsac ar unda axorcielebdesadamiani, ase iqceva:jer mizans gansazRvravs, Semdeg _amocanebs._ es ra SuaSia?_ aSS-s argumentebi rom arhqonoda, saqarTvelos axlandelixelisufleba ruseTTan, iransa daim sxva saxelmwifoebTan, romlebicaSS-is geopolitikur interesebTanwinaaRmdegobaSi modian, Tanam-Sromlobs, daxmarebis 15 procentiTSemcirebas pirveli mosmeniTar daamtkicebda. es pirveli qmediTinabijia. aqamde mxolod epistolarulicnobebi iyo, romelsac„ocneba” adekvaturad ver iazrebda.axla ki aSS-m ukve qmediTinabijebis gadadgma daiwyo da amiT„ocnebas” daanaxa, rom mzadaa, sxvaqmedebebzec gadavides!_ ki batono, magram saboloosityva mainc Cvens mosaxleobazea,anu yvelaferi imazea damokide-buli, oqtombris arCevnebzexalxi rogor gadawyvetilebasmiiRebs._ rasakvirvelia, magram TusaqarTvelos xelisufleba saer-TaSoriso sazogadoebisa da civilizebulisamyarosgan Cveni saxelmwifosmter qveyanasTan Tanam-SromlobaSi eWvmitanili aRmoCndeba,maSin saarCevno urnebTanxundebs aravin dagvadebs da sxvapolitikur Zalas aravin Semogvaxazinebs,magram merwmuneT, essaWiro ar gaxdeba, radgan xalxisxva arCevans gaakeTebs!Cveni pirveli rigis amocanaa,rom xelisuflebidan is politikuriZala wavides, romelic,rogorc gveubnebian, Cvens mtrulsaxelmwifosTan TanamSromlobs!mosaxleobas swored es unda esmodeskargad!_ davuSvaT, „ocneba” unda wav-ides, magram vin unda movides?_ damisaxeleT romelime sxvapolitikuri Zala, romelicmtrul saxelmwifosTan Tanam-SromlobaSi dadanaSaulebuliodesme ase Riad yofila!_ ai, magaliTad, „patriotTaaliansma”, romelic CrdiloeTismimarT simpaTiebs ar malavs,2016-Si saarCevno barieris gada-laxva SeZlo. amas garda, e. w. lei-boristebis magidasTan prodasavluriopoziciis gverdiT pro-putinuri Zalebic sxedan._ aq erTi Zalian seriozuliniuansia._ kerZod?_ „patriotTa alianss” miaCnia,rom saqarTvelom ruseTTan TavisiurTierToba unda gaaumjobesos,magram am partiis deputatebismoskovSi Casvla da iq viRacebTansaubari im tipis danaSauliar aris, rogorSic saqarTvelosxelisuflebaa eWvmitanili!am SemTxvevaSi saubaria anakliisportis mSeneblobis CavardnasaN15 (317) 14.07-20.07.2020 w.294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comxelisufleba Seicvleba!~`eleqtoraluri mosaxleobis sakmaod seriozul nawils axalgazrdobawarmoadgens da gasuli wlis 20 ivniss am axalgazrdobis ganwyoba vnaxeT -rogorc ki mtruli saxelmwifos warmomadgeneli saqarTvelos parlamentSidainaxes, spontanurad da impulsurad quCaSi gamovidnen!~Tu iranis navTobis ukanonotransportirebaze. „patriotebis”poziciasa da yvelafer amas Sorisgansxvavebas ver xedavT? ar vici,SesaZloa, ruseTTan urTierTobisgaumjobesebis jadosnuri wamaliaqvT, magram maTi moskovSi Casvlapolitikuri gemovnebisa da sindisisTemaa, magram am SemTxvevaSimavneblobis masStabebsa da praqtikulizianis miyenebaze vsaubrob.„patriotTa alianss” TavisiamomrCeveli hyavs da veravismovTxovT, rom yvelam erTnairadiazrovnos, magram roca qveynis xelisufalixar, saxelmwifos mar-Tav da romelsac konstituciaSigiweria, rom saqarTvelos mizanievroatlantikur struqturebSigaerTianebaa, magram amis sawinaaRmdegokonkretul nabijebsdgam, es sxva masStabis danaSaulia._ qalbatono lela, kiTxvas,romelic weRan dagisviT, xelme-ored dagisvamT da konkretuladmipasuxeT: gasagebia, rom „ocne-ba” unda wavides, magram vin undamovides? vinme aRiarebs Tu ara,faqtia: opoziciaSic erTgvariganxeTqilebaa. ai, magaliTad, xma`patriotTa alianss~ miaCnia, rom saqarTvelomruseTTan Tavisi urTierToba unda gaaumjobesos,magram am partiis deputatebis moskovSi Casvlada iq viRacebTan saubari im tipis danaSauli araris, rogorSic saqarTvelos xelisuflebaaeWvmitanili! am SemTxvevaSi saubaria anakliisportis mSeneblobis Cavardnasa Tu iranisnavTobis ukanono transportirebaze.`patriotebis~ poziciasa da yvelafer amas Sorisgansxvavebas ver xedavT?~dadis, rom „Zala erTobaSia” Sesa-Zloa, „nacmoZraobam” datovos.igive „nacionalebi” saburTalozeTako Carkvians, rogorc maJoritarobiskandidats, mxars ar uW-eren. Tavis mxriv, „kanoni da samarTlis”liders garkveuli pre-tenziebi „evropul saqarTvelosTan”aqvs. kargi ambebi arc „gam-arjvebul saqarTveloSi” xdeba.mokled, opozicia CamoiSala?_ ar vici, CamoSla ras niSnavs.gasagebia, rom arCevnebze SeiZleba,erTiani poziciiT ar wardgnen,magram politikidan xom ar gaqrnen?Sesabamisad, opoziciuri partiebi,romlebic erTiani politikuriqolgis qveS ar aRmoCndebian,arCevnebze damoukidebladgavlen da Tako Carkvians TavisiamomrCeveli eyoleba, „nacionalurmoZraobas” _ Tavisi. erTisityviT, im saarCevno modeliT,romelic didi peripetiebis SedegadmiviReT, gvaqvs SesaZlebloba,rom parlamentSi mosaxleobispolitikuri xedva da damokidebulebarealurad aisaxos._ es gasagebia, magram yvelazemZlavri da gavleniani opozicia„nacmoZraobaa”, Tumca isic arunda dagvaviwydes, rom am parti-is mmarTvelobis dros CadeniliusamarTlobebi xalxs kidev axsovsda „nacebis” dabruneba amit-omac ar unda. aseve ar unda, romxelisuflebaSi „ocneba” darCes.hoda, rogorc ityvian, win wyalida ukan mewyeria da mosaxleobamra qnas?_ Tu xalxs arc „nacebi” undada arc _ „qocebi”, im opoziciurerTobaSi iseTi adamianebic xomarian, romlebic „nacionalebis”xelisuflebaSi ar yofilan, anuxalxma iseT partiebs unda miscesxma, romlebsac arc „nacionalebis”pasuxismgeblobis tvirTs akisrebsda arc _ „ocnebis”._ rac Seexeba „gamarjvebulisaqarTvelodan” liderebis wasv-las, amaze ras ityviT?_ am partiaSi kidev arian adamianebi,romlebic arCevnebSi TavianTiSesaZleblobebis fargleb-Si cdian beds..._ asea Tu ise, yvelaferi mianiSnebs,rom wlevandeli arCevne-bi urTulesi iqneba._ rasakvirvelia._ aseve TvalnaTelia, romsaarCevno kampania cema-tyepisfonze Caivlis._ Tu Cveni fiqri iqiTken iqnebamimarTuli, rom aucilebladcema-tyepa unda iyos, maSin iqneba,magram ar mgonia, rom arCevnebicema-tyepiT Catardes. cxadia,arafers vamtkiceb, magram oqtombramdejer droa da winasaarCevnoperiodi aCvenebs, Cveni partniorebigavlenebisTvis ra berketebsgamoiyeneben, Tanac Zalian mniSvnelovania,rom Cven mxolod CvensnaWuWSi ar varT Caketilebi dasaerTaSoriso politikuri koniunqturamniSvnelovan rols Seasrulebs.mokled, darwmunebulivar, rom xelisufleba Seicvleba._ darwmunebuli ratom xarT?_ Cveni partniorebi „ocnebas”daavaldebuleben, minimum, iZulebulsgaxdian, rom qcevis garkveulCarCoebSi moeqces. sxvaTaSoris, gamocdileba yvelas gvaqvs._ romeli gamocdileba?_ roca liderebi da xelisuflebiswarmomadgenlebi saerTa-Soriso dRis wesrigidan amovardebianxolme, Zalian cudad amTavrebenda amis gamocdileba gvaqvs.axla ki arc is unda dagvaviwydes,rom saubaria oligarqze, anu imadamianze, romelsac Zalian didifinansuri kapitali aqvs da romelmacmTeli cxovreba am kapitalisdagrovebas miuZRvna._ ukacravad, es ra SuaSia?_ ar mgonia, man gadawyvitos,rom imis miRma darCes, rasac mTelicxovreba miuZRvna. erTi sityviT,darwmunebuli var, romSemodgomaze maincdamainc apokalifsurisuraTi ar gveqneba!_ vnaxoT, ra da rogor iqneba.sxvaTa Soris, socialur qselSigamoTqviT varaudi, rom xelisuflebasazRvrebs oqtombris Sua-mde ar gaxsnis. ase ratom fiqr-obT?_ aq Zalian bevri faqtoria.pirveli is, rom pandemiis Semdgomiekonomikuri krizisi cudekonomikur viTarebas kidev ufrogaaRrmavebs da xelisuflebas hgonia,am fonze saarCevnod amomrCevlisguls naklebi resursebiTmoinadirebs. garda amisa, „ocnebis”erT-erTi amocanaa, rom dasavleTisorbitas saqarTvelo gamostacos,magram es Seusrulebeliamocanaa. saerTod, arCevnebze gr-Zelvadiani damkvirveblebic arianda moklevadianebic. grZelvadianidamkvirveblebi qveyanaSiarCevnebamde oTxi-xuTi TviT adreCadian xolme, Tumca amjerad amisSesaZlebloba naklebia, magram„ocneba” mTlad mSvidad nu iqneba,radgan moklevadiani damkvirveblebiCamovlen. mokled, pandemiasTanbrZolis Temas xelisuflebasaarCevnod gamoiyenebs, magramTu sazogadoebam meti aqtiurobagamoiCina, SesaZloa, es mocemulobaSeicvalos. Tu xelisuflebas,romelic mizanmimarTulad cdilobs,rom qveyana dasavleTis orbitasCamoscildes, SevcvliT, ma-Sin Cven SevZlebT, rom 30 wlis Semdegim gzaze gavideT, rasac qveynisrealuri suvereniteti dadamoukidebloba hqvia!_ e. i., Tanamedrove mosegvWirdeba?_ am wuTas bibliuri mose armigulisxmia, magram faqtia: sanamsistema, romelic Cveni ukan, anusabWoeTisken mibrunebis garantia,ar Seicvleba, safrTxe mudmivadgveqneba!11
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