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`fotografi suraTebsac anadgurebda
„giorgi SaqaraSvilis saqme”
giorgi abaSiZe
TandaTan ufro CaxlarTuli
xdeba, anu dRe ar gava, rame axa-
li Canaweri ar gavrceldes an axali detali ar gamoikveTos.
erTi sityviT, es tragedia Cveulebrivi kriminaluri sagaa,
saga, romlis gasaRebic, sazogadoebis absoluturi umravlesobis
rwmeniT, SesaZloa, fotografi iakobi iyos, anu miuxe-
davad imisa, rom Sss-s pressamsaxuris naTesavi, iakob bregvaZe,
am etapze dazaralebulad miiCneva, arsebobs gonivruli eWvi,
rom man bevri ram icis, rasac saguldagulod malavs. ra icis
fotografma da saerTod, vin cdilobs, rom giorgi SaqaraS-
vilis mkvlelobas naTeli ar moefinos?
„qronika+~ advokat giorgi
yifSiZes esaubra, romelic Ziudoist
giga tatiaSvilis ufle-
bebs icavs. tatiaSvili im „mer-
sedess” marTavda, romelic ara-
gvis xidTan „qamris” misvlamde
mivida, Tumca tatiaSvils CxubSi
monawileoba ar miuRia, rasac mx-
olod Cveni respondenti ki ara,
17 braldebulidan umetesobis
advokatebic adastureben. miuxedavad
amisa, tatiaSvils gamoZieba
danaSaulis organizebas edav-
eba da es maSin, roca eqspertizis
gasajaroebis Semdeg, mirian ni-
kolaZe, romelic SaqaraSvilis
ojaxis axlobeli da advokatia,
kategoriulad iTxovs, rom „qam-
riSi” myofebs brali daumZimdeT
da maT winaaRmdeg gamoZieba ganzrax
jgufuri mkvlelobis mux-
liT daiwyos.
mokled, ra xdeba 19 wlis fex-
burTelis sikvdilis saqmeSi da
ratom uyurebda Tavdapirvelad
giorgis dakargvas policia zer-
eled? _ am da sxva saintereso
detalebis Sesaxeb Cvens gamocemas
advokati giorgi yifSiZe es-
aubra:
_ giorgi, axali ra gavigeT
giorgi SaqaraSvilis cxedris
eqspertizis daskvnidan?
_ simarTle giTxraT, piradad
CemTvis am daskvnaSi axali araferia,
Tumca sazogadoebisTvis am
mimarTulebas ufro meti mtkicebis
forma mieca.
_ mkvlelobis mimarTulebas?
_ diax. amasTan, eqspertizis
daskvna prokuraturam, sabolood,
kvalifikaciis dasamZimeblad gamoiyena,
Tumca zogadad rom vTqvaT,
axal kvalifikaciaze msjeloba
eqspertizis daskvnis gareSec
SesaZlebeli iyo.
_ iziarebT nika gvaramias Se-
fasebas, rom es daskvna sasamarT-
loSi yvela braldebuls gama-
rTlebis saSualebas miscems?
_ es absoluturi daskvna araa
da sxva daskvnebsac velodebiT,
anu yvela eqspertizis daskvna,
romelic ar daniSnulia, jer ar
mosula. es samedicino daskvnaa,
romelic ambobs: ai, batono, es
asea, is ki _ iseo, magram yvelafer
amas samarTlebrivi damagreba
sWirdeba, anu sasamarTloSi am
ramdenime kinkila furcliT rom
mixvide, bunebrivia, verafers miiReb
da Sedegi ar eqneba, miT
umetes, Tu avtomanqanSi mjdom
romelime adamians rom miaba. mar-
Talia, TiTs veravisken gaviSver,
magram kargad vxvdebiT, saubari
saiTkenac midis.
_ sxvaTa Soris, daskvnis gasa-
jarovebis Semdeg SaqaraSvilis
ojaxis advokatma nikolaZem
pirdapir Tqva, rom giorgis ojaxi
„qamriSi” myofi yvela piris mima-
rT bralis damZimebas moiTxovs,
anu nikolaZes arc Tqveni dacvis
qveS myofi uxsenebia, romelic im
sabediswero Rames „mersedess”
marTavda da arc _ „mersedesis”
sxva mgzavrebi.
_ Cemi dacvis qveS myofis mimarT
bralis damZimebas ki ara, velodebi,
rom gamoZieba saerTod
uars ityvis bralze. SeiZleba, subieqturi
viyo, magram darwmunebuli
var, Cemi dacvis qveS myofis
mimarT veranairi brali ver imuSavebs!
_ tatiaSvili, minimum, imaSi ma-
inc araa damnaSave, rom Cxubis Se-
saxeb, romlis mowmec gaxda, sam-
arTaldamcvelebs ar Seatyobina?
_ roca Cxubi moxda, Rame iyo.
_ es amarTlebs, rom policias
ar Seatyobina?
_ sibnelis gamo tatiaSvils ar
daunaxavs, rom qaTamaZes mZime dazianeba
hqonda. mas dazianebebi
gamTenias, anu maSin Seetyo, roca
saxe gaucivda da saavadmyofoSi
moxvda. mokled, tatiaSvils adgilze
ar unaxvs, rom rame mZime
danaSauli moxda _ vinme daWres,
manqaniT gadauares an mokles. Sesabamisad,
Tu moralze ar vilaparakebT,
samarTlebrivi valdebuleba
ar hqonda, rom policiaSi
daereka. Seutyobinebloba, mxolod
da mxolod, mZime an gansakuTrebiT
mZime danaSaulzea.
sxvaTa Soris, im wuTisTvis gamo-
Zieba mis manqanaSi myofebs 117-e
muxlsac ar edaveboda da mZime an
gansakuTrebulad mZime dana-
Saulze Seutyobinebloba saidan
warmoiSveboda? msubuq an naklebad
mZime danaSaulze Seutyobinebloba
ki saerTod ar isjeba!
_ am sazarel tragediaze
TiTqmis yvelaferi iTqva, anu
gamoZieba, praqtikulad, pirdapir
eTerSi mimdinareobs. ise, zogier-
Ti ambobs, rom advokatebma yve-
laferi ar unda gaasajaroon da
sasamarTlosTvis e. w. moulod-
nelobis efeqtisTvis rame unda
Semoinaxon. amaze ras ityviT?
_ ra Tqma unda, SesaZlebelia,
amas aTasgvari ram miaba, magram
arsebuli realobidan gamomdinare,
advokatebs imis saSualeba
da Sansi ar eZlevaT, rom TavianTi
klientebis dacva srulyofilad
ganaxorcielon da simarTlisTvis
ibrZolon, anu yvelgan winaaRmdegobas
xedaven da aseT dros advokatebs
erTaderTi rCebaT _ sazogadoeba.
Tu sazogadoebam detalebi
ar icis, mxolod litoni
sityvebi da saubari, rom simarTle
unda dadgindes, Sedegs naklebad
moitans.
_ giorgi, mapatieT da, simar-
giorgi yifSiZe:
`marTalia, TiTs
veravisken
gaviSver, magram
kargad vxvdebiT,
saubari
saiTkenac midis~
`tatiaSvils adgilze ar unaxvs, rom rame mZime
danaSauli moxda - vinme daWres, manqaniT
gadauares an mokles. Sesabamisad, Tu moralze
ar vilaparakebT, samarTlebrivi valdebuleba
ar hqonda, rom policiaSi daereka.
Seutyobinebloba, mxolod da mxolod, mZime
an gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulzea~
Tle sazogadoebam ki ara, sasa-
marTlom unda daadginos!
_ ki batono, geTanxmebiT, magram
amxela aJiotaJi rom ar atexiliyo,
es saqme aseTi kategoriuli
gaxdeboda? gamoricxeT! am
bavSvis gardacvalebas SesaZloa,
ise Caevlo, rogorc ubedur SemTxvevas.
ise, Cemo kargo, mxolod
advokatebs nu daabralebT. vici,
rom televiziebs saqmis masalebs
Tavad Sss-s warmomadgenlebi ugzavnian
da kerZo saubrebSi ramdenime
arxTan am Temaze Tavisuflad
saubroben!
_ Tqveni naTqvami ise unda gav-
igoT, rom Sss-s calkeul warmo-
madgenlebs saqmis gaxsna undaT?
_ Sss-s saqmis gaxsna nebismier
etapze unda, magram rogor unda,
ai, esaa yvelaze mniSvnelovani
kiTxva _ Tavis Wkuaze gaxsna unda
Tu simarTlis dadgena?
_ giorgi, kiTxva, romelsac
axla dagisvamT, SesaZloa, ufro
politikuria, magram, Tqveni
azriT, SaqaraSvilis tragedias
ZalovnebSi Sida brZolisTvis xom
ar iyeneben?
_ Cemo kargo, gamoricxuli
araferia. zogadad, roca aseTi
gaxmaurebuli ram xdeba, iq gamor-
icxuli arc politikaa! bolos da
bolos, yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT,
„mersedesis” mgzavrebs politikuri
muxli aqvT wayenebuli
_ Zaladobrivi jgufebis organizeba.
am muxls mxolod politikuri
manifestaciebisa da saprotesto
organizaciebis winaaRmdeg
iyeneben xolme, anu es iseTi kategoriis
muxli araa, romelic Sei-
Zleba, Cveulebrivi Cxubis SemTxvevaSi
gamoiyeno, es gamoricxulia!
sxvaTa Soris, am muxliT oqruaSvili
da 20 ivnisis sxva figurantebi
arian gasamarTlebulni.
_ es politikuri muxli sabediswero
dabadebis dRis monawi-
leebs specialurad wauyenes?
_ amas erTaderTi axsna aqvs da
xmamaRla vambob: es imdenad idioturi
muxlia, rom am SemTxvevaSi
misi gamoyeneba ar SeiZleboda!
visac sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsi
elementarulad esmis, mixvdeba,
rom absoluturad sxva karia.
_ anu?
_ mogexsenebaT, kari da Tavi danaSaulis
xasiaTebi da mimarTulebebia.
es muxli ki sazogadoebis
usafrTxoebis winaaRmdeg mimarTul
danaSauls iTvaliswinebs,
anu saxelmwifoebriv doneze ayvanili
muxlia, romelsac neonacisturi
Tu teroristuli organizaciebis
SemTxvevaSi iyeneben.
_ Tu asea, maSin 17 braldebuls
Tavdapirvelad am muxliT ratom
wauyenes brali?
_ bralis damZimebis TvalsazrisiT.
am muxlis pirveli nawili 6-
dan 9-wlamde patimrobas iTvaliswinebs,
meore nawili ki _ 4-dan
10-mde. erTi sityviT, es muxli Tavidanve
Segnebulad iyo Semogdebuli,
rom sasamarTlos giraos
gadawyvetileba ar gamoetana,
Torem ramdenime adamiani am saqmesTan
kavSirSi saerTod araa _ arc
uCxubia da arc sxva rame dauSavebia,
magram gareT arc erTi awyobdaT,
radgan es savaWro Temad rCeba!
_ visTan an raze savaWrod?
_ mtkicebulebebis mopovebaSi,
Cemo kargo. sasamarTloze, saproceso
SeTanxmebis sanacvlod, vi-
Rac gamova, raRacas daabrexvebs
da viRacas danaSaulze miabams. es
aprobirebuli meTodia da Cveni
gamoZieba, zogadad, aseTia.
_ e. i., iziarebT mosazrebas,
rom simarTlis miCqmalvas viRac
uxilavi cdilobs?
_ uxilavebis calsaxad ar
mjera!
_ mokled, simarTlis ardadge-
na vis interesSi Sedis da ratom
cdilobs, rom 19 wlis biWis gar-
dacvalebas naTeli ar moefinos?
_ iotisodenadac ver vxedav,
rom am saqmeSi viRac uxilavia
Careuli, romelic saqmis gayalbebas
cdilobs.
_ aba, ra xdeba?
_ gamoZieba idioturad daiwyes,
giorgis mkvlelobas gamoricxavdnen
da saqmes ise iZiebdnen,
rogorc ubedur SemTxvevas.
_ ratom? amas mxolod arapro-
fesionalizmiT xsniT?
_ ra Tqma unda. aravis vaknineb,
magram saqmes Tavidan mcxeTa da
duSeTi iZiebda, arada, maTi profili
araa. yvelafers Tavi rom
davaneboT, bavSvis Zebnis dros
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