qronika+317

ratom aris aucilebeli
lustraciis kanonis miReba da
vin uSlis amas xels? rogor
xdebian titulovani sportsme-
nebi zonderebi? ratom ver
Tqva qarTulma saxelmwifom
uari bolSevizmze? ra unda
gaiTvaliswinon axalgazrda
sportsmenebma? _ am Temebis
Sesaxeb „qronika+~-s mamuka
giorgaZe esaubreba:
_ batono mamuka, Tqven ragbisti
iyaviT da iciT rag-
bistebis mentaliteti. isini
arasdros
asocirdebodnen
moZaladeebTan. dRes ki sxvag-
varad aris saqme. roca adami-
anze amboben, rom ragbisti an
moWidavea, yvela fiqrobs, rom
is moZaladea. rogor mivida
saqme aqamde?
_ ragbistebi da moWidaveebi
sadamsjelo razmad ar Camoyalibebulan.
viRacas awyobs, rom
saqarTveloSi aRar darCes wminda
adgili. viRaca Zalian cdilobs,
rom saqarTveloSi aRar
arsebobdes pativsacemi wre
adamianebisa. Segnebulad xdeba
mTeli rigi institutebis diskreditacia.
erTi da ori damnaSavis
gamo yvela ar unda gailanZRos.
ras hqvia, ragbistebi
cudi xalxia?! ras hqvia, sportsmenebi
damnaSaveebi arian?!
_ danaSauls Tu sCadian, ar
arian damnaSaveebi? raki spo-
rtsmenebi arian, Tvali unda
davxuWoT maT mier Cadenil
danaSaulze?
_ danaSaulis Cadenaze Tvali
ar unda davxuWoT, dana-
Sauls vinc Caidens, yvela unda
daisajos, _ dargsa da profesias
mniSvneloba ar aqvs. minda,
yvelam icodes, rom damnaSavea
konkretuli adamiani da ara
mTlianad sfero. Tundac 10
uRirsi kacis gamo rogor Sei-
Zleba, mTel mimarTulebasa da
dargs miayeno Seuracxyofa?!
am yvelafris ukan politikur
qveteqsts vxedav. gamodian
viTom politikosebi da
dauRalavad lanZRaven mTel
dargs. eqimebSic arian uRirsebi
da ra vqnaT, gamovideT da
viyviroT, rom eqimebi cudebi
arian? msgavsi qmedeba arc erTi
sferos warmomadgenelze ar
SeiZleba. amiT kidev erTxel
iTeseba zizRi da siZulvili.
ramdenime adamianma Tu arasworad
iCxuba, amis gamo ragbis
mTel ojaxs Seuracxyofa ratom
unda miayeno? konkretul
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`saqarTveloSi moZalade
qarTul sports sakmaod mZime
Sorena marsagiSvili
dReebi udgas. „qarTuli ocneb-
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is” ganxorcielebuli „reformebis”
wyalobiT dRes sportsmenebi
zonderebTan da kriminalebTan asocirdebian. amaSi saku-
Tari wvlili Tavad sportsmenebmac Seitanes. arada, rogorc
erovnuli moZraobis erT-erTi lideri, mamuka giorgaZe
gviyveba, romelic ragbs TamaSobda, kunTmagar xalxs yvela
xelisufleba iyenebda oponentebTan sabrZolvelad. mas kargad
axsovs, Tu rogor gamoiyvanes erovnuli moZraobis mit-
ingis dasarbevad „aias” ragbistebi. darbeva mxolod imitom
ver Sedga, rom ragbistebi erovnuli moZraobis mxaresac
iyvnen da maT erTmaneTze xelis aRmarTva ar isurves.
adamianebze ilaparake. Cemi Taobis
ragbistebSi msgavsi rameebi
ar yofila. Cvens drosac iyo
Cxubi, magram aravin daCagrula,
arc zedmetad gamogviyenebia
Cveni kunTebi. sisastike saer-
Tod gamoricxuli iyo.
_ ramdenime kaci erT kacze
gaiwevda Tqvens dros?
_ gamoricxulia! Cven romc
gveCxuba, meore dRes es yvelaferi
morigebiTa da erTmaneT-
Tan CaxutebiT mTavrdeboda.
axla dapirispireba sul sxvanairad
sruldeba. Cven yvelani
unda davfiqrdeT, Tu ram migviyvana
aqamde. gasarkvevia, ratom
wamovida axalgazrdebSi ase-
Ti sisastike. saSineleba moxda,
Tavis droze, xoravas quCaze da
axla ukve aragvis xidebTan. aucileblad
unda gavigoT mizezi,
Tu ratom uswordebian
axalgazrdebi ase daundoblad
erTmaneTs? ratom arian adamianebi
ase gaborotebulebi? meore
ubedurebaa is, rom aseT
tragediebsac ki media da politikosebi
saTavisod iyeneben.
saboloo jamSi, Cven viRebT
destabilizacias. TiTqos yvelaferi
keTdeba imisTvis, rom
qveyanaSi simSvide ar iyos. jojoxeTSi
asea, rom yvelas Tavisi
wili muguzali miaqvs, raTa
iq kargad gizgizebdes cecxli.
destabilizaciis Sesaqmnelad
yvelas migvaqvs Cveni wili muguzali
da ver vxvdebiT, rom am
cecxliT yvela viwvebiT da is
kupric yvelas gvesxmeba. rac
mTavaria, zaraldeba saxelmwifo.
Cven axla swored am procesebTan
gvaqvs saqme. meti sifrTxilisa
da windaxedulebis
gamoCenaa saWiro.
_ isev sports davubrundeT:
ratom gadaiqcnen am sferos
konkretuli warmomadgenlebi
moZaladeebad? komunistebi
iyenebdnen sportsmenebs ero-
vnuli moZraobis winaaRmdeg?
_ sportsmenebs yovelTvis
iyenebdnen saTavisod, magram
sporti sul sxva ramea. eklesiaze
amaRlebuli dawesebuleba
ar arsebobs, magram iqac ki
moiZebneba ramdenime uRirsi.
yvela ojaxs hyavs erTi cudi,
gamonaklisi verc sporti iqneba.
samwuxarod, aseTi uRirsi
sportsmenebi yovelTvis hyavda
saqarTvelos. iseTi xalxi sCadioda
uRirs saqciels, ver
warmoidgenT. Zalian gagikvirdebaT,
maT vinaobas rom gaigebT.
mamuka giorgaZe:
`cixeebSi
patimrebis
gaupatiureba
sportsmenebis
saxels
ukavSirdeba~
_ viszea saubari, SegiZliaT
gviTxraT?
_ gvarebis dasaxelebisgan
Tavs Sevikaveb, magram Zalian
cnobil sportsmenebze vsaubrob.
isini msoflios Cempionebi
iyvnen. am aTletebs qarTvelma
xalxma Zeglebi daudga. es xalxi,
Tavis droze, „enkavedeSi”
muSaobda da patimrebis cemaSi
monawileobda.
_ amis Sesaxeb, albaT, bevr-
ma ar icis, Torem Zeglebs
rogor daudgamdnen?!
_ araa es sportis sferoSi
damaluli ambavi. roca aseTi
mwameblebis Zeglebi gvidgas da
isini gmirebad gvyavs gamocxaebuli,
maSin axalgazrdebis Cxubic
nuRar gvikvirs. am viTarebaSi
saukeTeso gamosavali lustraciaa.
lustracia imitom ki
ar minda, rom viRacebi davsajoT
Zveli codvebisTvis, raRacebi
unda vicodeT, Tundac imisTvis,
rom mere mooZaladeebis
Zeglebi aRar davdgaT da
Taobebs ar vuCiCinoT, amaT magaliTze
unda gaizardoTo.
_ bevri saxelovani sports-
meni iyo moZalade?
_ samwuxarod, mravlad iyvnen.
patimrebis gaupatiurebac
sportsmenebis saxels ukavSirdeba.
_ axla Tu komunistebis
dros?
_ komunistebis dros da ama-
Si Zalian cnobili gvarebi arian
gareuli. vimeoreb, rom saWiroa
lustracia. lustracia
saWiroa imisTvis, rom xval ar
ganmeordes is, rac iyo guSin.
rodesac Cven am movlenaze ar
vsaubrobT da informacia ar
gamogvaqvs, nuRar gvikvirs, rom
ramdenime naZirala dResac aRmoCndes
sportis ama Tu im
saxeobaSi. magram es aranairad
ar amarTlebs imas, rom mTel
`yvela moWidave da ragbisti rom moZaladed
da kriminalad gamoacxades, aTasobiT
axalgazrdis galanZRvaa, aba, ra aris!
sportze aTeulobiT aTasi axalgazrda dadis
- isini varjiSoben da sjeraT, rom xval da zeg
warmatebas miaRweven da samSoblos asaxeleben.
ramdenime naZirala sportsmenis gamo
axalgazrdebisa da bavSvebis lanZRva CemTvis
kategoriulad miuRebelia~
saxeobas vaginoT. TvalSi sacemia,
rom ragbsa da Widaobas is
xalxi lanZRavs yvelaze metad,
romelic Tavis droze aris msgavs
raRacebSi SemCneuli.
_ amaTi warsuli dRes dana-
Saulis Camdenebs ver gaama-
rTlebs.
_ ra Tqma unda. magitom viTxov
lustracias, rom axalgazrdebma
aRar dauSvan Secdomebi
da mcdar gzas ar daadgnen.
Zalian mZime da seriozuli Temaa.
movuwodeb sazogadoebas,
rom amaze davfiqrdeT. saxarebaSi
aris aseTi sityvebi: Tqven
Zeglebs udgamT mamebs, romlebmac
winaswarmetyvelebi daxoces.
Cvenc im xalxs vudgamT Zeglebs,
romlebmac siwmindeebi
Seuracxyves, imaT vcemT pativs,
vinc saqarTveloSi didi sibin-
Zureebi Semoitanes. aseT xalxs
mediac diTirambebs umReris.
roca maT sazogadoeba taSs ukravs,
ragbistis an moWidavis
umsgavso qmedeba ratomRa gikvirs?
miaRwevs viRac msoflio
Cempionobas da ramdenime wlis
Semdeg cixeSi an policiaSi zonderad
imuSavebs. SesaZloa,
arc xalxis gamaupatiureblad
muSaobaze Tqvas uari. aseTi
raRacebi CvenTvis ucxo, samwuxarod,
ar aris. yvelaze didi
ubedureba isaa, rom politikosebi,
es marTla agentebi da naZiralebi,
sargebloben am faqtoriT
da realur problemaze
saubris nacvlad, moWidaveebsa
da ragbistebs lanZRaven.
_ realur problemaSi ras
gulisxmobT?
_ imas, rom sabWouri sistema
dRemde ver davamarcxeT
qveyanaSi. isev sabWoTa sistemiT
imarTeba saxelmwifo. sab-
WoTa sistemis gadmonaSTia
agentura da zonderebi. kun-
Tebs isev aradaniSnulebisamebr
iyeneben. amaze unda iyos
dRes yuradReba mimarTuli. es
viTom politikosebi ki aTasobiT
axalgazrdas lanZRaven.
_ aTasobiT axalgazrda ro-
dis galanZRes?
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