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giorgi sakaruli
555 42 42 81
saqarTveloSi man parafsiqolo-
giiT gaiTqva saxeli, Tumca sinamdvileSi klasikuri medicinis
muSakia. irakli lomaia wlebia, rac emigraciaSi imyofeba.
rogorc man „qronika+”-sTan aRniSna, rTuli gza gamoiara, raTa
bavSvobis ocneba aexdina. senakSi dabadebuli patara biWi verasdros
warmoidgenda, Tu odesme mouwevda msoflio kinolegendebis
gverdiT TamaSi. diax, is araerT popularul serial-
sa Tu filmSi monawileobs da kanadaSi sakmaod warmatebuli
kinokariera aqvs. warmatebuli kinokarieris garda Cveni dRevan-
deli respondenti msoflio mogzaurTa asociaciis sapatio
wevric yofila JenevaSi. aRsaniSnavi is aris, rom qveynebSi,
sadac lomaia mogzaurobs, Tan daaqvs saqarTvelos droSa da
ase acnobs ucxoel turistebs saqarTvelos.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
irakli lomaias gza
rogor aRmoCnda kinoSi? ra
xdeba da rogoria koronavirusis
epidsituacia kanadaSi? _ am da
sxva saintereso detalebis Sesaxeb
„qronika+” irakli lomaias kan-
adaSi daukavSirda:
_ irakli, saqarTveloSi cx-
ovrebis dros parafsiqologiaSi
moRvaweobdiT da SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom amiT gaiTqviT saxeli, gaxdiT
popularuli, Tumca warmatebuli
karieris miuxedavad Tqven emigraciaSi
wasvla gadawyviteT. ra-
tom?
_ profesiiT parafsiqologi
arasodes vyofilvar. ra Tqma unda
am sferoSi udidesi gamocdileba
da miRwevebi mqonda, magram Cemi
namdvili profesia samedicino sfero
iyo da maSinac ki, roca saqarTveloSi
Cemze mxolod parafsiqologiis
kuTxiT Suqdeboda
niusebi, sinamdvileSi me klasikuri
medicinis muSaki gaxldiT da
onkologiis institutSi Rameebs
vaTenebdi da vaRamebdi meti ganaTlebis
misaRebad. samedicino
instituti wiTel diplomze davamTavre
da gaxlavarT muclis
Rrus zogadi profilis eqimi. amdenad
is, rom maSinac da dResac
zogierTs mudam parafsiqologia
akeria pirze, ar aris es swori
forma. garda parafsiqologiisa,
uamravi sxva profesia maqvs. miT
umetes axla, roca wlebia, kanada-
Si var da am profesiiT aRar vmu-
Saob, mainc gaiZaxian, parafsiqologia,
parafsiqologiao. arada,
uamravi sxva sazogado moRvawe
vici, visac araerTxel Seucvlia
cxovrebaSi profesia da maT Soris
var mec. es xom Cveni arCevania da
aravin gviSlis? metic: Turme zogierTs
mkiTxavi Tu winaswarmetyveli
vgonivar. mecineba xolme,
rameTu erT adamiansac ver naxavT,
visac odesme irakli lomaiam mar-
Tla umkiTxava. ras vizamT, zogadad,
sazogadoeba xSirad ver
erkveva bevr rameSi, rac namdvilad
ar aris Cemi brali.
_ Tqven saqarTveloSi sakmaod
warmatebuli da popularuli
iyaviT. emigraciaSi wasvla ratom
gadawyviteT?
_ rodesac axalgazrda biWi
daxeuli fexsacmliT iwyeb saku-
Tar samSobloSi cxovrebas, maSin
roca swavla gwyuria da imis finansuri
SesaZlebloba ar gaqvs,
rom iswavlo, magram miuxedavad
amisa, mainc cdilob miaRwio mizans
_ gadixar quCaSi Zveli fexsacmliT,
sadac Cafenili gaqvs
parki, rom fexi ar dagisveldes da
mere sigarets yidi eliavaze da
ase codviTa da tanjviT Tavic
gagaqvs da imdens aRwev, rom sas-
`mzia kvirikaSvilis
bolo sityvebi
maxsovs: wadi, ika, Sen
aq aravin dagafasebso~
`qarTuli droSis gareSe ver
warmomidgenia mogzauroba~
wavlebelSi studentma fuli gadaixado,
ar Takilob arc erT samuSaos
da am yvelafris mere, udidesi
tanjvis fasad, rodesac
wlebis mere Sens samSobloSi xdebi
uzomod popularuli da warmatebuli,
rodesac wer samecniero
naSromebs da amas msoflios
sakmaod cnobili gamocemebi gibe-
Wdaven da maSin, roca 24 wlis asak-
Si geniWeba profesoris wodeba da
am dros umadurobis pikia, _ vi-
Racas mkiTxavi hgonixar, rogor
fiqrob, es kargia? da maSin, rodesac
yvelasgan damoukideblad xsni
sakuTari eris sasargeblod
saqvelmoqmedo fonds, sadac donori
organizacia ar gyavs da isev
Seni moRvaweobidan da Sromidan
naSovn fuls deb am fondSi, rom
qarTvelebs daexmaro, magram mainc
umadurobisgan Sepyrobili boRmianebi
rom samares giTxrian, aTas
Wors Txzaven Sen winaaRmdeg, es,
rogor fiqrobT, ar aris sakmarisi
mizezi imisTvis, rom erT dRes
dajde da gaaanalizo: nuTu, Rirs
iseT qveyanaSi cxovreba, sadac
arasodes fasdeba adamianis patiosani
Sroma da madlobis nacvlad
talaxs gesvrian? Cemi Secdoma,
albaT, is iyo, rom rodesac
qvelmoqmedebas Cavdiodi, sxvebisgan
gansxavebiT, arasodes davrbodi
kamerebiTa da presis TanxlebiT,
aramed sikeTes Cumad vakeTebdi
da zustad magitom ar
icis dRemde sazogadoebam Cemi
organizaciis mier aTasobiT gakeTebuli
kargi saqmis Sesaxeb.
exla, rodesac viRaca gamoxteba
da mkiTxavs, ra gagikeTebia Seni
samSoblos winaSeo, maSin iZlebuli
var, faqtebi avafaro saxeze.
arafers vambob Cems samecniero
naSromebze, wignebze, romelic
msoflios araerT qveyanaSi gaiyida
da aRiareba hpova, imaze gacilebiT
meti, vidre es bevrs warmoudgenia.
Tu es araferi iyo Cemi
samSoblosTvis da Cemi erisTvis?
romeli erTi CamovTvalo? mokled,
imxanad Zalian viyavi gulnatkeni,
cudad momeqcnen adamianebi,
romlebsac ubralod sulsa da
guls vuziarebdi da maT Soris
iyo bevri cnobili saxe, romlebic
24 saaTi Cemi ofisis karTan iyvnen
atuzulebi _ maSin yvela Cemi megobari
da axlobeli iyo. maSin yvela
gaiZaxoda, lomaia Cemi Zmaao da
amayobdnen CemiT, bolos Zmoba da
axlobloba ki ara, sajarod gamodiodnen
usircxvilod da presaSi
yvebodnen, _ vin aris lomaia, saer-
Tod ar myavs TvaliT nanaxio. am
dros is aviwydebodaT, rom, sabednierod,
arqivi inaxavs iseT eqskluziur
kadrebs, romelsac veravin
Secvlis, faqtebi faqtebad
rCeba da sazogadoeba amas xedavs.
am periods CemTvis uZvirfasesi
adamianis gardacvaleba daemata,
misma dakargvam sabolood momiRo
bolo da depresiaSi Camagdo. maxsovs
misi bolo sityvebi: wadi, ika,
sxvagan... Sen aq aravin dagafasebs,
aq nu darCebio. es sityvebi iyo
zustad, rac cxonebulma qalbatonma
mzia kvirikaSvilma miTxra
_ mis suls veTayvane! sigiJemde
miyvarda da miyvars dRemde. zustad
maSin sabolood gadavwyvite
wamosvla. ubralod, me var adamiani,
romelic mudam axls eZebs. me
var pirovneba, romelic arasodes
kmayofildeba sakuTari SesaZleblobiT.
aqedan gamomdinare, kanada
iyo da aris CemTvis unikaluri
qveyana, sadac niWi sakmaod fasobs.
_ Zalian bevri qarTvelisTvis
kanadaSi wasvla da miT umetes,
cxovreba auxdeneli ocnebaa.
Tqven rogor moaxerxeT es yve-
laferi da ramdenad rTuli gza
gaiareT?
_ maSin rom mcdonoda, Tu ra
gza mqonda gasavleli da ra meloda
imisTvis, rom kanadamde Camovsuliyavi
da is rom mcodnoda ra
tanjva-wameba meloda, rom am qveyanaSi
Sevmdgariyavi, albaT, isev iq
darCenas gadavwyvetdi, rac namdvilad
Secdoma iqneboda. is rom
mcodnoda, ras niSnavs iyo emigranti,
Tu ra tkivilia es, albaT,
isev TbilisSi viqnebodi.
magram RvTis wyalobiT es Sev-
Zeli, marTalia rTulad, magram
mainc SevZeli. am qveyana-
Si ar aris martivi Tavis
damkvidreba, magram zustad
vicodi, Tu me vibrZolebdi,
aqac aranaklebi warmateba
meqneboda, vidre amas mivaRwie
sakuTar samSobloSi da miuxedavad
im didi tkivilisa, rac
weRan mogaxseneT, aq Camosvlam
ar gamaborota. zogier-
Ti Cems adgilze saerTod
xazs gadausvamda Tavis sam-
Soblos da maSin, roca ucxo qveyanaSi
warmatebas miaRwevda, ityoda,
_ erTi, magaTi! magram me dRemde
suli amomdis Cems samSoblosa
da Cems erze. ra vqna, aseTi var da
morCa, warsuls arasodes mivtiri,
rameTu kargad maqvs gacnobierebuli,
roca raime cudi xdeba,
ufali ukeTesobisken gamzadebs da
zustad ase moxda, roca samSoblodan
kanadaSi gadmovbargdi.
_ ucxo qveyanaSi Tavis damkvi-
dreba rTulia. mogviyeviT gzaze
parafsiqologiidan _ kinomde.
rogor gaxdiT msaxiobi, pirvelad
vin aRmogaCinaT, vin SegniS-
naT, sad da ra situaciaSi?
_ namdvilad ar iyo martivi
gza. Tavidan ar vyofilvar msaxiobi,
metic _ pirvelad saqonlis
fermaSi daviwye muSaoba da fekaliebs
vwmenddi. es iyo uzarmazari
stresi da tkivili. erTi weli
yoveldRe vtirodi, radgan uzomod
menatreboda Cemi samSoblo
da ojaxi. Tavidan Zalian gamiWirda
imis gacnobiereba, rom sakuTar
samSobloSi popularuli, aq ki
aravin da araferi viyavi. arc ena
vicodi, arc sabuTebi mqonda da
arc normaluri samsaxuri _ erTi
wlis manZilze bevrjer momabrunes
aeroportidan _ darCi, ar
waxvide, Torem inanebo. gaxsenebac
ar minda, es iyo namdvili koSmari.
ase nel-nela, didi sirTulis fasad
Sevegue da gamovcocxldi. erT
dResac ubralod avdeqi, sarkeSi
Cavixede da vTqvi. aq Tavis mosaklavad
Tu Camoxvedi, maSin iq gamosalmebodi
sicocxles-meTqi,
morCa glova da tirili,
dReidn axali cxovreba iwyeba-meTqi
da marTlac
ase agixdeT yvelaferi
_ Cems cxovrebaSi
didi saswauli moxda.
yovelTvis mindoda
msaxioboba,
magram, samwuxarod,
Cems samSobloSi
verc erTma
reJisorma
ver an ar aRmomaCina,
Tu ar
CavTvliT ramdenime
serialsa da
films, sadac epizoduri rolebi
viTamaSe. madloba minda gadavuxado
zaza koleliSvils, man maTamaSa
filmSi „omi da qorwili” da
aseve udidesi madloba nika qavTaraZes,
romelmac gadamiRo teleserialSi
„mesame Taoba”. rogorc
iciT, me sul sxva profesiiT davkavdi,
magram erTi dRe ar gavidoda
ise, rom CemTvis ar meocneba
msaxiobobaze. swored 20 wlis mere
moxda namdvili saswauli: erT
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