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saqarTveloSi man parafsiqolo-

giiT gaiTqva saxeli, Tumca sinamdvileSi klasikuri medicinis

muSakia. irakli lomaia wlebia, rac emigraciaSi imyofeba.

rogorc man „qronika+”-sTan aRniSna, rTuli gza gamoiara, raTa

bavSvobis ocneba aexdina. senakSi dabadebuli patara biWi verasdros

warmoidgenda, Tu odesme mouwevda msoflio kinolegendebis

gverdiT TamaSi. diax, is araerT popularul serial-

sa Tu filmSi monawileobs da kanadaSi sakmaod warmatebuli

kinokariera aqvs. warmatebuli kinokarieris garda Cveni dRevan-

deli respondenti msoflio mogzaurTa asociaciis sapatio

wevric yofila JenevaSi. aRsaniSnavi is aris, rom qveynebSi,

sadac lomaia mogzaurobs, Tan daaqvs saqarTvelos droSa da

ase acnobs ucxoel turistebs saqarTvelos.

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irakli lomaias gza

rogor aRmoCnda kinoSi? ra

xdeba da rogoria koronavirusis

epidsituacia kanadaSi? _ am da

sxva saintereso detalebis Sesaxeb

„qronika+” irakli lomaias kan-

adaSi daukavSirda:

_ irakli, saqarTveloSi cx-

ovrebis dros parafsiqologiaSi

moRvaweobdiT da SeiZleba iTqvas,

rom amiT gaiTqviT saxeli, gaxdiT

popularuli, Tumca warmatebuli

karieris miuxedavad Tqven emigraciaSi

wasvla gadawyviteT. ra-

tom?

_ profesiiT parafsiqologi

arasodes vyofilvar. ra Tqma unda

am sferoSi udidesi gamocdileba

da miRwevebi mqonda, magram Cemi

namdvili profesia samedicino sfero

iyo da maSinac ki, roca saqarTveloSi

Cemze mxolod parafsiqologiis

kuTxiT Suqdeboda

niusebi, sinamdvileSi me klasikuri

medicinis muSaki gaxldiT da

onkologiis institutSi Rameebs

vaTenebdi da vaRamebdi meti ganaTlebis

misaRebad. samedicino

instituti wiTel diplomze davamTavre

da gaxlavarT muclis

Rrus zogadi profilis eqimi. amdenad

is, rom maSinac da dResac

zogierTs mudam parafsiqologia

akeria pirze, ar aris es swori

forma. garda parafsiqologiisa,

uamravi sxva profesia maqvs. miT

umetes axla, roca wlebia, kanada-

Si var da am profesiiT aRar vmu-

Saob, mainc gaiZaxian, parafsiqologia,

parafsiqologiao. arada,

uamravi sxva sazogado moRvawe

vici, visac araerTxel Seucvlia

cxovrebaSi profesia da maT Soris

var mec. es xom Cveni arCevania da

aravin gviSlis? metic: Turme zogierTs

mkiTxavi Tu winaswarmetyveli

vgonivar. mecineba xolme,

rameTu erT adamiansac ver naxavT,

visac odesme irakli lomaiam mar-

Tla umkiTxava. ras vizamT, zogadad,

sazogadoeba xSirad ver

erkveva bevr rameSi, rac namdvilad

ar aris Cemi brali.

_ Tqven saqarTveloSi sakmaod

warmatebuli da popularuli

iyaviT. emigraciaSi wasvla ratom

gadawyviteT?

_ rodesac axalgazrda biWi

daxeuli fexsacmliT iwyeb saku-

Tar samSobloSi cxovrebas, maSin

roca swavla gwyuria da imis finansuri

SesaZlebloba ar gaqvs,

rom iswavlo, magram miuxedavad

amisa, mainc cdilob miaRwio mizans

_ gadixar quCaSi Zveli fexsacmliT,

sadac Cafenili gaqvs

parki, rom fexi ar dagisveldes da

mere sigarets yidi eliavaze da

ase codviTa da tanjviT Tavic

gagaqvs da imdens aRwev, rom sas-

`mzia kvirikaSvilis

bolo sityvebi

maxsovs: wadi, ika, Sen

aq aravin dagafasebso~

`qarTuli droSis gareSe ver

warmomidgenia mogzauroba~

wavlebelSi studentma fuli gadaixado,

ar Takilob arc erT samuSaos

da am yvelafris mere, udidesi

tanjvis fasad, rodesac

wlebis mere Sens samSobloSi xdebi

uzomod popularuli da warmatebuli,

rodesac wer samecniero

naSromebs da amas msoflios

sakmaod cnobili gamocemebi gibe-

Wdaven da maSin, roca 24 wlis asak-

Si geniWeba profesoris wodeba da

am dros umadurobis pikia, _ vi-

Racas mkiTxavi hgonixar, rogor

fiqrob, es kargia? da maSin, rodesac

yvelasgan damoukideblad xsni

sakuTari eris sasargeblod

saqvelmoqmedo fonds, sadac donori

organizacia ar gyavs da isev

Seni moRvaweobidan da Sromidan

naSovn fuls deb am fondSi, rom

qarTvelebs daexmaro, magram mainc

umadurobisgan Sepyrobili boRmianebi

rom samares giTxrian, aTas

Wors Txzaven Sen winaaRmdeg, es,

rogor fiqrobT, ar aris sakmarisi

mizezi imisTvis, rom erT dRes

dajde da gaaanalizo: nuTu, Rirs

iseT qveyanaSi cxovreba, sadac

arasodes fasdeba adamianis patiosani

Sroma da madlobis nacvlad

talaxs gesvrian? Cemi Secdoma,

albaT, is iyo, rom rodesac

qvelmoqmedebas Cavdiodi, sxvebisgan

gansxavebiT, arasodes davrbodi

kamerebiTa da presis TanxlebiT,

aramed sikeTes Cumad vakeTebdi

da zustad magitom ar

icis dRemde sazogadoebam Cemi

organizaciis mier aTasobiT gakeTebuli

kargi saqmis Sesaxeb.

exla, rodesac viRaca gamoxteba

da mkiTxavs, ra gagikeTebia Seni

samSoblos winaSeo, maSin iZlebuli

var, faqtebi avafaro saxeze.

arafers vambob Cems samecniero

naSromebze, wignebze, romelic

msoflios araerT qveyanaSi gaiyida

da aRiareba hpova, imaze gacilebiT

meti, vidre es bevrs warmoudgenia.

Tu es araferi iyo Cemi

samSoblosTvis da Cemi erisTvis?

romeli erTi CamovTvalo? mokled,

imxanad Zalian viyavi gulnatkeni,

cudad momeqcnen adamianebi,

romlebsac ubralod sulsa da

guls vuziarebdi da maT Soris

iyo bevri cnobili saxe, romlebic

24 saaTi Cemi ofisis karTan iyvnen

atuzulebi _ maSin yvela Cemi megobari

da axlobeli iyo. maSin yvela

gaiZaxoda, lomaia Cemi Zmaao da

amayobdnen CemiT, bolos Zmoba da

axlobloba ki ara, sajarod gamodiodnen

usircxvilod da presaSi

yvebodnen, _ vin aris lomaia, saer-

Tod ar myavs TvaliT nanaxio. am

dros is aviwydebodaT, rom, sabednierod,

arqivi inaxavs iseT eqskluziur

kadrebs, romelsac veravin

Secvlis, faqtebi faqtebad

rCeba da sazogadoeba amas xedavs.

am periods CemTvis uZvirfasesi

adamianis gardacvaleba daemata,

misma dakargvam sabolood momiRo

bolo da depresiaSi Camagdo. maxsovs

misi bolo sityvebi: wadi, ika,

sxvagan... Sen aq aravin dagafasebs,

aq nu darCebio. es sityvebi iyo

zustad, rac cxonebulma qalbatonma

mzia kvirikaSvilma miTxra

_ mis suls veTayvane! sigiJemde

miyvarda da miyvars dRemde. zustad

maSin sabolood gadavwyvite

wamosvla. ubralod, me var adamiani,

romelic mudam axls eZebs. me

var pirovneba, romelic arasodes

kmayofildeba sakuTari SesaZleblobiT.

aqedan gamomdinare, kanada

iyo da aris CemTvis unikaluri

qveyana, sadac niWi sakmaod fasobs.

_ Zalian bevri qarTvelisTvis

kanadaSi wasvla da miT umetes,

cxovreba auxdeneli ocnebaa.

Tqven rogor moaxerxeT es yve-

laferi da ramdenad rTuli gza

gaiareT?

_ maSin rom mcdonoda, Tu ra

gza mqonda gasavleli da ra meloda

imisTvis, rom kanadamde Camovsuliyavi

da is rom mcodnoda ra

tanjva-wameba meloda, rom am qveyanaSi

Sevmdgariyavi, albaT, isev iq

darCenas gadavwyvetdi, rac namdvilad

Secdoma iqneboda. is rom

mcodnoda, ras niSnavs iyo emigranti,

Tu ra tkivilia es, albaT,

isev TbilisSi viqnebodi.

magram RvTis wyalobiT es Sev-

Zeli, marTalia rTulad, magram

mainc SevZeli. am qveyana-

Si ar aris martivi Tavis

damkvidreba, magram zustad

vicodi, Tu me vibrZolebdi,

aqac aranaklebi warmateba

meqneboda, vidre amas mivaRwie

sakuTar samSobloSi da miuxedavad

im didi tkivilisa, rac

weRan mogaxseneT, aq Camosvlam

ar gamaborota. zogier-

Ti Cems adgilze saerTod

xazs gadausvamda Tavis sam-

Soblos da maSin, roca ucxo qveyanaSi

warmatebas miaRwevda, ityoda,

_ erTi, magaTi! magram me dRemde

suli amomdis Cems samSoblosa

da Cems erze. ra vqna, aseTi var da

morCa, warsuls arasodes mivtiri,

rameTu kargad maqvs gacnobierebuli,

roca raime cudi xdeba,

ufali ukeTesobisken gamzadebs da

zustad ase moxda, roca samSoblodan

kanadaSi gadmovbargdi.

_ ucxo qveyanaSi Tavis damkvi-

dreba rTulia. mogviyeviT gzaze

parafsiqologiidan _ kinomde.

rogor gaxdiT msaxiobi, pirvelad

vin aRmogaCinaT, vin SegniS-

naT, sad da ra situaciaSi?

_ namdvilad ar iyo martivi

gza. Tavidan ar vyofilvar msaxiobi,

metic _ pirvelad saqonlis

fermaSi daviwye muSaoba da fekaliebs

vwmenddi. es iyo uzarmazari

stresi da tkivili. erTi weli

yoveldRe vtirodi, radgan uzomod

menatreboda Cemi samSoblo

da ojaxi. Tavidan Zalian gamiWirda

imis gacnobiereba, rom sakuTar

samSobloSi popularuli, aq ki

aravin da araferi viyavi. arc ena

vicodi, arc sabuTebi mqonda da

arc normaluri samsaxuri _ erTi

wlis manZilze bevrjer momabrunes

aeroportidan _ darCi, ar

waxvide, Torem inanebo. gaxsenebac

ar minda, es iyo namdvili koSmari.

ase nel-nela, didi sirTulis fasad

Sevegue da gamovcocxldi. erT

dResac ubralod avdeqi, sarkeSi

Cavixede da vTqvi. aq Tavis mosaklavad

Tu Camoxvedi, maSin iq gamosalmebodi

sicocxles-meTqi,

morCa glova da tirili,

dReidn axali cxovreba iwyeba-meTqi

da marTlac

ase agixdeT yvelaferi

_ Cems cxovrebaSi

didi saswauli moxda.

yovelTvis mindoda

msaxioboba,

magram, samwuxarod,

Cems samSobloSi

verc erTma

reJisorma

ver an ar aRmomaCina,

Tu ar

CavTvliT ramdenime

serialsa da

films, sadac epizoduri rolebi

viTamaSe. madloba minda gadavuxado

zaza koleliSvils, man maTamaSa

filmSi „omi da qorwili” da

aseve udidesi madloba nika qavTaraZes,

romelmac gadamiRo teleserialSi

„mesame Taoba”. rogorc

iciT, me sul sxva profesiiT davkavdi,

magram erTi dRe ar gavidoda

ise, rom CemTvis ar meocneba

msaxiobobaze. swored 20 wlis mere

moxda namdvili saswauli: erT

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