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giorgi sakaruli
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msaxiobi natuka gulisaSvili adami-
anTa im ricxvs ganekuTvneba, romelic
far-xmals arasdros yris da nebismieri
sirTulis miuxedavad, depresiaSi ar
vardeba. cdilobs, yvelafers poziti-
urad Sexedos da sjera, rom kosmosSi
gaSvebuli dadebiTi energetika auci-
leblad daubrundeba.
_ natuka, ramdenad gagiWirdaT
karantinSi yofna?
_ simarTle giTxraT, ar gamWirvebia.
arc depresiaSi Cavvardnilvar. Cemi er-
TaderTi sadardebeli finansebi iyo,
radgan irgvliv yvelaferi gaCerda.
zogadad, maqsimalurad vcdilob
raRacidan raRacis gamoyvanas.
_ konkretulad?
_ karantinma saSualeba momca,
proeqtebi damewera, romelic adre,
drois uqonlobis gamo, ver davwere.
garda amisa, binas, romelsac aRdgomas
da an sxva dResaswaulze generalurad
valagebdi, karantinis dros yoveldRe
vawesrigebdi. maqsimalurad vcdilobdi,
rom sul raRaca mekeTebina. mere onlain
videoebis Cawera daviwye, feisbuq-megobrebs
kulinariul receptebs vacnobdi
da bolos tik-tokamdec mivedi. mokled,
me TviTon viqmnidi ganwyobas.
_ ganwyobas, romelic bevrs ar hqon-
da da uWirda xasiaTis SenarCuneba.
Tqven rogor axerxebdiT amas?
_ reJimi mqonda Semdegnairi: mxolod
diliT vuyurebdi sainformacios, mere
saerTod vTiSavdi televizors, Semdeg
ZaRli gamyavda saseirnod, saxlis
saqmeebiT vkavdebodi, mere weris saaTebi
mqonda... me var is adamiani, romelic
yvelaferSi dadebiTs eZebs.
_ rogorc vici, sakuTar aivanze ki-
trisa da pomidvris mosavalic aiReT.
_ diax, _ plastmasis did qoTnebSi
CavTese oTxi Ziri pomidori, kitri, mwvanili
da a. S. aivanze risi datevis Sesa-
Zleblobac mqonda, yvelaferi gavakeTe.
_ erTxel dawereT, _ Cemi ocnebaa,
mqondes sakuTari saxli Tavisi ezoTio.
_ saerTod, roca adamians raRaca ginda
da am survilebs kosmosSi uSveb, is
upirobod dadebiTad gibrundeba. dRemde
mjera, rom aucileblad meqneba ker-
Zo saxli, radgan es Cemi ocnebaa. viRaca
did manqanaze an Cemi profesiis adamiani
„oskarze” ocnebobs, me kidev _ ker-
Zo saxlze.
_ Zalian kargi ocneba gaqvT, magram
ratom gindaT ase Zalian kerZo saxli?
_ Tundac imitom, rom xelovani adamiani
var da Zalian miyvars mcenareebi,
cxovelebi. ori ram ar mexerxeba: kerva
da qsova. danarCeni, dawyebuli mSeneblobidan,
damTavrebuli eleqtroobiT,
yvelaferi gamomdis. zogadad, Zalian
miyvars buneba da miwasTan muSaoba. mqonia
periodi, rodesac usamsaxurod vyofilvar
da mag dros Zalian damxmarebia
ezo, miwa, buneba, yvavilebi, mcenareebi,
imitom rom iq gadamaqvs Cemi fiqrebi, iqidan
viReb Zalian did energias. vcdilob,
yvelaze cud situaciaSic ki ar Cavvarde
depresiaSi. aris meore raRac: saqarTveloSi
msaxiobi da telewamyvani
droebiT xar da arc arasdros geqneba
is pensia da stabiluri xelfasi, rom Seni
profesiiT an gakeTebuli saqmiT gaagrZelo
cxovreba. aqedan gamomdinare,
kerZo saxli CemTvis mSvidi siberea, ker-
Zo biznesia, razedac Cemi proeqti maqvs
da es iqneba Zalian axlos xelovnebasTan.
_ didi sanacnobo gyavT. weRan ax-
seneT, rom konkretuli proeqti maqvs
biznesis saxiT, romelic kerZo saxls
ukavSirdebao. ar gifiqriaT, rom es
proeqti SesTavazoT, Tundac, Tqvens
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
`viRaca
`oskarze~
ocnebobs,
me kidev
_ kerZo
saxlze~
nacnob-megobrebs, biznesseqtors, rom
dagafinanson?
_ me vinc micnobs, yvelam kargad icis,
rom aravis araferze ar vawuxeb. sul
rom umuSevari viyo, vcdilob, ar viwuwuno.
es ar aris ampartavnoba, es aris
sakuTari Tavis mimarT pativiscema. uamravi
nacnobi myavs, magram arc ki vici,
vis SeiZleba es warvudgino an SevTavazo.
aqedan gamomdinare, mTeli cxovreba
CemiT movdivar da isev sakuTari
Tavis imedi maqvs.
_ natuka, cxovrebis raRac etapze
iyaviT xan erT, xan meore da xan mesame
arxze. iwyeboda Tqveni gadacemebi, Semdeg
ixureboda. raRac periodi samsax-
uris gareSe iyaviT da zemoT aRniSneT,
rom ar mCvevia depresiaSi yofnao. ar
gCveviaT erTia, magram ramdenad rTulia
erT mSvenier dRes darCeT umuSe-
vari da ar CavardeT depresiaSi?
rogor axerxebT amas?
_ Cemi televiziaSi muSaobis periodi
daiwyo jer kidev maSin, rodesac sabavSvo
televizia „enki benki” yalibdeboda,
Semdeg iyo „imedi”, sadac 6 weli vimuSave,
mere viyavi „iberiaze”, „kavkasiasa”
da „sapatriarqos televiziaSi”.
principSi, Zalian bevr televiziaSi mimuSavia
da paralelurad radioebSic
vmuSaobdi. yvela televiziaSi raRacas
vswavlob. roca telekompania „imedma”
damireka, aranairi Sexeba ar mqonda
kulinariasTan. ubralod, iyo periodi,
rodesac Teatri gaCerda da Cems gakeTebul
gemriel kerZebs televiziebis bufetebSi
vabarebdi. amiT profesia SeviZine.
rodesac, wesiT, depresiaSi unda Cavvarde,
raRacas vswavlob. ar miyvars
Tqma: cnobili adamiani var da amitom sadRac
ver vimuSaveb-meTqi. patara gada-
Wril vagonSi, respublikur saavadmyo-
fosTan, meorad tansacmelsac vyiddi. ar
meTakileba muSaoba, ar meTakileba swavla,
oRond rac gamomdis, Torem aris
raRacebi, rac verasodes gamomiva.
dResac sul vswavlob, ar vvardebi
depresiaSi da am dros viyeneb ganviTarebisTvis,
raRac variantebis moZebnisTvis.
erTma Zalian kargma ucnobma gogonam
„feisbuqze” momwera, _ sul iciniT da
karg xasiaTze xarT, araferi gadardebTo?
iciT, ra aris? me ar vTamaSob,
vcdilob, yvelafers dadebiTad vuyuro.
rodesac gaqvs ori xeli, ori fexi da
Zala, absoluturad yvelafers gaakeTebs
adamiani.
_ e. i. Zlieri xarT.
_ Tamamad vityvi, rom Zlieri adamiani
var. qarTvelebs, ratomRac, Zalian
cudad gvesmis sityva dedakaci, vakninebT
mas, am dros ki ilia WavWavaZe dedakacs
uwodebs Zlieri qals. me did pativs
vcem sworad gagebul dedakacebs,
anu Zlier qalebs.
_ roca sakuTar TavTan marto rCe-
biT, guli ar gwydebaT raRacebze?
_ rogor ara.
_ magaliTad?
_ pirvel rigSi, zarmaci viyavi da in-
`Cems gakeTebul
kerZebs televiziebis
bufetebSi vabarebdi~
glisuri ar viswavle; guli mwydeba imaze,
rom raRac nabiji arasworad gadavdgi,
magram es xom cxovrebaa. guli gwydeba,
rom ar gafaseben, samsaxuridan
roca giSveben, magram es cxovrebis Semadgeneli
nawilia. yvelaferze SeiZleba,
adamians guli dagwydes.
_ profesiuli TvalsazrisiT raze
gwydebaT guli?
_ saerTod, zogadad mwydeba guli, rom
saqarTveloSi kino aRar arsebobs. aqedan
gamomdinare, bevri profesionali msaxiobi
aris umuSevrad darCenili. guli mwydeba
imaze, rom dResdReobiT ar var arc
erT TeatrSi. vamayob, rom maSin, rodesac
yvelaferi mkvdari iyo, 90-ian wlebSi, Teatralur
sardafSi msaxiobebis pirveli
nakadi Cven viyaviT, magram guli mwydeba,
rom arsebobs uamravi saintereso proeqti,
romelic Cemi dawerilia da, ratom-
Rac, ar xedaven, radgan televiziebSi Tu
ar aris agresia, erTgvari Sou, maSin reitingi
ar iwereba. realurad, marto me ar
var ase, samwuxarod, Zalian bevri niWieri
adamiania CrdilSi.
_ am etapze rame SemoTavazeba xom ar
gaqvT televiziidan?
_ sul aris raRac molaparakebebis
doneze, yvelas uyvars natuka da vnaxoT.
yovel SemTxvevaSi imedi maqvs, Tumca, am
etaze, konkretuli araferia. amJamad
kidev erTi profesia SeviZine, es aris
marketingi da piari _ axla am profesiiT
vmuSaob. SeiZleba, cnobili saxe iyo, magram
sazogadoebasTan ver urTierTobde
an ar SegeZlos konkretuli produqtis
miwodeba. amdeni wlis ganmavlobaSi Cemi
sponsorebi arasdros momityuebia _ kargi
Tu iyo, vambobdi, rom kargia da cudi
Tu iyo, uars vambobdi imis sponsorobaze.
aqedan gamomdinare, etyoba, ndoba da
siyvaruli davimsaxure da amitomac var
dRes piarSi. rodesac „iberiaze” gadacema
mqonda, Cemi sponsori iyo kompleqsi
„emocia”, sadac mqonda gadaRebebi da
araCveulebrivi diasaxlis-mamasaxlisi
myavda. Cven davmegobrdiT. SarSan gaixsna
evrostandartebze gaTvlili uzarmazari
kompleqsi Tavisi auzebiT, jakuzebiT
da saunebiT da rodesac SemomTavazes,
rom iq damewyo muSaoba, siamovnebiT
davTanxmdi, radgan Tbilisidan 30 kilometrSi
msgavsi obieqti ararsebobs, romelic
marTla kargia da mas 100%-iT vuwev
rekomendacias.
_ zafxulis gatarebasac „emociaSi”
apirebT?
_ imdenad datvirTuli grafiki maqvs,
rom „emociaSi” viqnebi emociurad,
grilad nataxtarSi da Tu sadme gasvlas
davapireb, albaT, maqsimum, sami dRiT
moxerxdeba. Cemda samarcxvinod, svaneT-
Si ar var namyofi da vapirebdi, wavsuliyavi,
Tumca pandemiam SemiSala xeli.
axla vnaxoT, ramdenad movaxerxeb. aucileblad
unda CamoxvideT, gvestumroT,
rom namdvilad darwmundeT, marTla
rogori gansxvavebuli adgilia „emocia”.
_ dabolos, rogorc vici, kinolo-
giam gagitacaT. ratom gaxda es sfero
TqvenTvis saintereso?
_ am pandemiis dros kidev Seviswavle
erTi profesia, kinologia anu ZaRlebis
fsiqologia. Zalian miyvars yvelaferi
sulieri, rac Cven garSemoa ZaRlebiT
da katebiT dawyebuli, zRvis goWiT,
zRarbebiTa da sxva cxovelebiT damTavrebuli.
SeiZleba iTqvas, fanatikurad
var maTze Seyvarebuli. internetis daxmarebiT
cxovelebis fsiqologiaze amerikeli
kinolog-fsiqologebis masalebs
gavecani. paralelurad masterklasebs
Cemi ZaRlis eqimTanac gavdiodi. bevri
ram Seviswavle da cxovelTa samyaro-
Si ukeTesad gaverkvie. Zalian didi da
saintereso masalaa. nel-nela ufro safuZvlianad
Seviswavli mas.
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