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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`fotografi suraTebsac anadgurebda„giorgi SaqaraSvilis saqme”giorgi abaSiZeTandaTan ufro CaxlarTulixdeba, anu dRe ar gava, rame axa-li Canaweri ar gavrceldes an axali detali ar gamoikveTos.erTi sityviT, es tragedia Cveulebrivi kriminaluri sagaa,saga, romlis gasaRebic, sazogadoebis absoluturi umravlesobisrwmeniT, SesaZloa, fotografi iakobi iyos, anu miuxe-davad imisa, rom Sss-s pressamsaxuris naTesavi, iakob bregvaZe,am etapze dazaralebulad miiCneva, arsebobs gonivruli eWvi,rom man bevri ram icis, rasac saguldagulod malavs. ra icisfotografma da saerTod, vin cdilobs, rom giorgi SaqaraS-vilis mkvlelobas naTeli ar moefinos?„qronika+~ advokat giorgiyifSiZes esaubra, romelic Ziudoistgiga tatiaSvilis ufle-bebs icavs. tatiaSvili im „mer-sedess” marTavda, romelic ara-gvis xidTan „qamris” misvlamdemivida, Tumca tatiaSvils CxubSimonawileoba ar miuRia, rasac mx-olod Cveni respondenti ki ara,17 braldebulidan umetesobisadvokatebic adastureben. miuxedavadamisa, tatiaSvils gamoZiebadanaSaulis organizebas edav-eba da es maSin, roca eqspertizisgasajaroebis Semdeg, mirian ni-kolaZe, romelic SaqaraSvilisojaxis axlobeli da advokatia,kategoriulad iTxovs, rom „qam-riSi” myofebs brali daumZimdeTda maT winaaRmdeg gamoZieba ganzraxjgufuri mkvlelobis mux-liT daiwyos.mokled, ra xdeba 19 wlis fex-burTelis sikvdilis saqmeSi daratom uyurebda Tavdapirveladgiorgis dakargvas policia zer-eled? _ am da sxva sainteresodetalebis Sesaxeb Cvens gamocemasadvokati giorgi yifSiZe es-aubra:_ giorgi, axali ra gavigeTgiorgi SaqaraSvilis cxedriseqspertizis daskvnidan?_ simarTle giTxraT, piradadCemTvis am daskvnaSi axali araferia,Tumca sazogadoebisTvis ammimarTulebas ufro meti mtkicebisforma mieca._ mkvlelobis mimarTulebas?_ diax. amasTan, eqspertizisdaskvna prokuraturam, sabolood,kvalifikaciis dasamZimeblad gamoiyena,Tumca zogadad rom vTqvaT,axal kvalifikaciaze msjelobaeqspertizis daskvnis gareSecSesaZlebeli iyo._ iziarebT nika gvaramias Se-fasebas, rom es daskvna sasamarT-loSi yvela braldebuls gama-rTlebis saSualebas miscems?_ es absoluturi daskvna araada sxva daskvnebsac velodebiT,anu yvela eqspertizis daskvna,romelic ar daniSnulia, jer armosula. es samedicino daskvnaa,romelic ambobs: ai, batono, esasea, is ki _ iseo, magram yvelaferamas samarTlebrivi damagrebasWirdeba, anu sasamarTloSi amramdenime kinkila furcliT rommixvide, bunebrivia, verafers miiRebda Sedegi ar eqneba, miTumetes, Tu avtomanqanSi mjdomromelime adamians rom miaba. mar-Talia, TiTs veravisken gaviSver,magram kargad vxvdebiT, saubarisaiTkenac midis._ sxvaTa Soris, daskvnis gasa-jarovebis Semdeg SaqaraSvilisojaxis advokatma nikolaZempirdapir Tqva, rom giorgis ojaxi„qamriSi” myofi yvela piris mima-rT bralis damZimebas moiTxovs,anu nikolaZes arc Tqveni dacvisqveS myofi uxsenebia, romelic imsabediswero Rames „mersedess”marTavda da arc _ „mersedesis”sxva mgzavrebi._ Cemi dacvis qveS myofis mimarTbralis damZimebas ki ara, velodebi,rom gamoZieba saerToduars ityvis bralze. SeiZleba, subieqturiviyo, magram darwmunebulivar, Cemi dacvis qveS myofismimarT veranairi brali ver imuSavebs!_ tatiaSvili, minimum, imaSi ma-inc araa damnaSave, rom Cxubis Se-saxeb, romlis mowmec gaxda, sam-arTaldamcvelebs ar Seatyobina?_ roca Cxubi moxda, Rame iyo._ es amarTlebs, rom policiasar Seatyobina?_ sibnelis gamo tatiaSvils ardaunaxavs, rom qaTamaZes mZime dazianebahqonda. mas dazianebebigamTenias, anu maSin Seetyo, rocasaxe gaucivda da saavadmyofoSimoxvda. mokled, tatiaSvils adgilzear unaxvs, rom rame mZimedanaSauli moxda _ vinme daWres,manqaniT gadauares an mokles. Sesabamisad,Tu moralze ar vilaparakebT,samarTlebrivi valdebulebaar hqonda, rom policiaSidaereka. Seutyobinebloba, mxolodda mxolod, mZime an gansakuTrebiTmZime danaSaulzea.sxvaTa Soris, im wuTisTvis gamo-Zieba mis manqanaSi myofebs 117-emuxlsac ar edaveboda da mZime angansakuTrebulad mZime dana-Saulze Seutyobinebloba saidanwarmoiSveboda? msubuq an naklebadmZime danaSaulze Seutyobineblobaki saerTod ar isjeba!_ am sazarel tragediazeTiTqmis yvelaferi iTqva, anugamoZieba, praqtikulad, pirdapireTerSi mimdinareobs. ise, zogier-Ti ambobs, rom advokatebma yve-laferi ar unda gaasajaroon dasasamarTlosTvis e. w. moulod-nelobis efeqtisTvis rame undaSemoinaxon. amaze ras ityviT?_ ra Tqma unda, SesaZlebelia,amas aTasgvari ram miaba, magramarsebuli realobidan gamomdinare,advokatebs imis saSualebada Sansi ar eZlevaT, rom TavianTiklientebis dacva srulyofiladganaxorcielon da simarTlisTvisibrZolon, anu yvelgan winaaRmdegobasxedaven da aseT dros advokatebserTaderTi rCebaT _ sazogadoeba.Tu sazogadoebam detalebiar icis, mxolod litonisityvebi da saubari, rom simarTleunda dadgindes, Sedegs naklebadmoitans._ giorgi, mapatieT da, simar-giorgi yifSiZe:`marTalia, TiTsveraviskengaviSver, magramkargad vxvdebiT,saubarisaiTkenac midis~`tatiaSvils adgilze ar unaxvs, rom rame mZimedanaSauli moxda - vinme daWres, manqaniTgadauares an mokles. Sesabamisad, Tu moralzear vilaparakebT, samarTlebrivi valdebulebaar hqonda, rom policiaSi daereka.Seutyobinebloba, mxolod da mxolod, mZimean gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSaulzea~Tle sazogadoebam ki ara, sasa-marTlom unda daadginos!_ ki batono, geTanxmebiT, magramamxela aJiotaJi rom ar atexiliyo,es saqme aseTi kategoriuligaxdeboda? gamoricxeT! ambavSvis gardacvalebas SesaZloa,ise Caevlo, rogorc ubedur SemTxvevas.ise, Cemo kargo, mxolodadvokatebs nu daabralebT. vici,rom televiziebs saqmis masalebsTavad Sss-s warmomadgenlebi ugzavnianda kerZo saubrebSi ramdenimearxTan am Temaze Tavisufladsaubroben!_ Tqveni naTqvami ise unda gav-igoT, rom Sss-s calkeul warmo-madgenlebs saqmis gaxsna undaT?_ Sss-s saqmis gaxsna nebismieretapze unda, magram rogor unda,ai, esaa yvelaze mniSvnelovanikiTxva _ Tavis Wkuaze gaxsna undaTu simarTlis dadgena?_ giorgi, kiTxva, romelsacaxla dagisvamT, SesaZloa, ufropolitikuria, magram, TqveniazriT, SaqaraSvilis tragediasZalovnebSi Sida brZolisTvis xomar iyeneben?_ Cemo kargo, gamoricxuliaraferia. zogadad, roca aseTigaxmaurebuli ram xdeba, iq gamor-icxuli arc politikaa! bolos dabolos, yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT,„mersedesis” mgzavrebs politikurimuxli aqvT wayenebuli_ Zaladobrivi jgufebis organizeba.am muxls mxolod politikurimanifestaciebisa da saprotestoorganizaciebis winaaRmdegiyeneben xolme, anu es iseTi kategoriismuxli araa, romelic Sei-Zleba, Cveulebrivi Cxubis SemTxvevaSigamoiyeno, es gamoricxulia!sxvaTa Soris, am muxliT oqruaSvilida 20 ivnisis sxva figurantebiarian gasamarTlebulni._ es politikuri muxli sabediswerodabadebis dRis monawi-leebs specialurad wauyenes?_ amas erTaderTi axsna aqvs daxmamaRla vambob: es imdenad idioturimuxlia, rom am SemTxvevaSimisi gamoyeneba ar SeiZleboda!visac sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsielementarulad esmis, mixvdeba,rom absoluturad sxva karia._ anu?_ mogexsenebaT, kari da Tavi danaSaulisxasiaTebi da mimarTulebebia.es muxli ki sazogadoebisusafrTxoebis winaaRmdeg mimarTuldanaSauls iTvaliswinebs,anu saxelmwifoebriv doneze ayvanilimuxlia, romelsac neonacisturiTu teroristuli organizaciebisSemTxvevaSi iyeneben._ Tu asea, maSin 17 braldebulsTavdapirvelad am muxliT ratomwauyenes brali?_ bralis damZimebis TvalsazrisiT.am muxlis pirveli nawili 6-dan 9-wlamde patimrobas iTvaliswinebs,meore nawili ki _ 4-dan10-mde. erTi sityviT, es muxli TavidanveSegnebulad iyo Semogdebuli,rom sasamarTlos giraosgadawyvetileba ar gamoetana,Torem ramdenime adamiani am saqmesTankavSirSi saerTod araa _ arcuCxubia da arc sxva rame dauSavebia,magram gareT arc erTi awyobdaT,radgan es savaWro Temad rCeba!_ visTan an raze savaWrod?_ mtkicebulebebis mopovebaSi,Cemo kargo. sasamarTloze, saprocesoSeTanxmebis sanacvlod, vi-Rac gamova, raRacas daabrexvebsda viRacas danaSaulze miabams. esaprobirebuli meTodia da CvenigamoZieba, zogadad, aseTia._ e. i., iziarebT mosazrebas,rom simarTlis miCqmalvas viRacuxilavi cdilobs?_ uxilavebis calsaxad armjera!_ mokled, simarTlis ardadge-na vis interesSi Sedis da ratomcdilobs, rom 19 wlis biWis gar-dacvalebas naTeli ar moefinos?_ iotisodenadac ver vxedav,rom am saqmeSi viRac uxilaviaCareuli, romelic saqmis gayalbebascdilobs._ aba, ra xdeba?_ gamoZieba idioturad daiwyes,giorgis mkvlelobas gamoricxavdnenda saqmes ise iZiebdnen,rogorc ubedur SemTxvevas._ ratom? amas mxolod arapro-fesionalizmiT xsniT?_ ra Tqma unda. aravis vaknineb,magram saqmes Tavidan mcxeTa daduSeTi iZiebda, arada, maTi profiliaraa. yvelafers Tavi romdavaneboT, bavSvis Zebnis dros4 N15 (317) 14.07-20.07.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comda raRacebsac maimunobda!~danaSaulis adgili 400 maSvelsgadaajegines, rac dauSvebelia!mtkicebulebebi fexebiT mospes dagaanadgures!_ giorgi, am naTqvamiT TqvensZvel gancxadebas ewinaaRmdege-biT, romliTac varaudobdiT,rom SaqaraSvili mokles, meremdinareSi Caagdes da yvelaferamis Semdeg viRacam danaSaulisadgili gaasufTavao._ eqspertizis daskvnas velodebodida versiebis doneze bevriramis Tqma SemeZlo, Tumca darwmunebuliviyavi, rom jer yvelaferimiwaze xdeboda (moklesTu gaTiSes, es gamoZiebas undadaedgina) da mere wyalSi Caagdes.es calsaxad dadasturda! SeiZleba,wyalSi rom gadaagdes, cocxaliiyo, wyali gadaylapa da mokvda!Cemi mxridan imis Tqma, romCaqoles da wyalSi mere gadaagdes,gamoricxulia, Tumca axlac imversias vuWer mxars, rom scemes,gaiTiSa da wyalSi gadaagdes angaiTiSa da wyalSi Tavad gadavarda._ marTalia, iuristi ar var,magram vici, rom nebismieri dana-SaulisTvis motivia saWiro._ darwmunebuli var, rom motiviarsebobs._ da es motivi ra SeiZlebaiyos? iziarebT nika gvaramiasversias, romlis Tanaxmadac, yvelaferiSesaZloa, imis gamo moxda,rom gogonas, romelic Ciqovansmoswonda, SaqaraSvilis mima-rT hqonda simpaTia?_ gvaramia uWkuo adamiani araa.SesaZloa, haerze laparakobda _sakuTari fiqrebi gaaxmovana daraRac wyaroebsac daeyrdno, magrames fiqrebi realobasTan axlosaa.yovel SemTxvevaSi, gvaramiasam fiqrebs kategoriulad arSevewinaaRmdegebi. sxvaTa Soris,garda imisa, rom advokati var damovaleobebi maqvs, am sazogadoebiswevric var, Svilebi myavs da arminda, rom axalgazrdebs quCaSixocavdnen. amitom simarTlisgarkvevis cxoveli interesi maqvs!_ giorgi, gamoZiebas danaSau-lis motivis dadgenaze, wesiT,Tavidanve unda emuSava, ara?_ motivs maSin ikvleven, rocaeWvi arsebobs, rom danaSauli vi-Racam Caidina. gvarebs ar davasaxeleb,magram igive mcxeTis TanamdebobispirebTan urTierTobamqonda da siciliT ambobdnen,daTvra da sadRac gadavardao. anuimas, rac moxda, ar ganixilavdnenda amdeni Secdomac amitomdauSves! dakiTxvebis dros imasekiTxebodnen, es kaci rom daikarga,ra ecva, romel „kevs” ReWavdaoda raRac sisulelebi aqvT nakiTxi.mokled, gamoZiebis mimarTulebagamZafrebuli ar iyo. momxdarsise ganixilavdnen, rogorcubedur SemTxvevas da kiTxvebic,ra Tqma unda, idioturi iyo! mereki, roca mixvdnen, rom ukacravadda, Wames, gamosworeba daiwyes, magrames gamosworeba saqmis gayalbebasdaemsgavsa! xalxi meored,mesamed, mexuTed dakiTxes da TavianTigafuWebuli Cvenebebis vi-Tom gamosworeba daiwyes. axla meeqvsedda meSvidedac dakiTxaven,radgan maqsimalurad cdiloben,rom yvelaferi gamoasworon, magramZvirfasi dro wasulia. arada,Tavidanve am mimarTulebiTrom wasuliyvnen, damijereT, amsaqmes pirvelsave dRes, minimum,sxeulis mZime dazianebis kvalifikaciaeqneboda _ daTvalierebisoqmi arsebobs da micvalebulirom naxes, xom etyoboda, rom bi-Wis tuCi gaxeTqili iyo, xelzecnaWdevi hqonda da zurgze. es suraTebinanaxi maqvs, yvelaferi SevamCnieda ra, TviTon ver dainaxes?_ SaqaraSvils, amirxanaSvilsada maT Tanmxlebs mcxeTis gzazeTavdapirvelad „mersedesma” miakiTxada maT iq msxdomebi gaus-wordnen. Tu yvelaferi winaswarar iyo gamiznuli, erTxel nacemibiWebis meored cema dRis wesrig-Si ratomRa dadga, anu „qamri”ratomRa mivida?_ ai, swored es amtkicebs, rom„mersedessa” da „qamris” SorisSeTanxmeba ar arsebobda, anu isinirom SeTanxmebuli yofiliyvnen,„mersedesi” TbilisSi xom ar wavidoda,darCeboda da im „qamris”daelodeboda._ „mersedesi” da „qamri” dasaxmarebladerTma da imave adamian-ma gamoiZaxa?_ ara._ aba?_ gigam, anu visac vicav, megobrebiTbilisSi Caiyvana, erT-erTsTanaklaseli axlda. swored imTanaklasels gauCnda idea, rom iqN15 (317) 14.07-20.07.2020 w.`Sss-s saqmis gaxsna nebismier etapze unda, magram rogor unda, ai, esaayvelaze mniSvnelovani kiTxva - Tavis Wkuaze gaxsna unda Tu simarTlisdadgena?~ori Cveni axlobelia darCenili damodi, CavakiTxoTo. ar vici, iqve„abirJavebdnen” Tu ras akeTebdnen,magram ori adamiani Caisves. maTSoris iyo saubari, rom Cxubi moxda,magram yvelafer amas giga ukvemcxeTaSi igebs._ „qamri” vin gamoiZaxa?_ „qamriSi” zis Ciqovani, romelsacmoxvda. Sesabamisad, mas Tavisibrigada calke mihyavs, Torem ammanqanaSi galaxuli aravinaa dasaerTod, absoluturad calke„sastavia”._ hoda, eg ver gavige _ es cal-calke „sastavi” maincdamaincSaqaraSvils ratom scems?_ amaT, anu „mersedesis” xalxs,SaqaraSvilisTvis TiTic ardaukarebiaT da es dadasturebulia.SaqaraSvili rogori uvnebeliciyo, iseTive uvnebeli daxvda„qamris” da mere gaiqca. „mersedesis”epizodSi SaqaraSvili ki ara,fotografi gaiqca._ saerTod, es fotografi iakobiam tragediis erT-erTi yve-laze idumali figurantia, ara?_ saerTod, am fotografissaqcieli piradad me absoluturadcalke mdgom saqmed mimaCnia._ anu?_ darwmunebuli var, rom esfotografi suraTebsac anadgurebdada raRacebsac maimunobda.am kuTxiT ganvixiloT: ramdenimeadamiani garbis, romelsac misdeven.erTi buCqebSi Sevarda da`aravis vaknineb, magram saqmes Tavidan mcxeTada duSeTi iZiebda, arada, maTi profiliaraa. yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT, bavSvisZebnis dros danaSaulis adgili 400-s maSvelsgadaajegines, rac dauSvebelia! mtkicebulebebifexebiT mospes da gaanadgures!~masTan aravin darCa. meorec buCqebSiSevarda, magram amasac aravingahyva da SaqaraSvilis devnagaagrZeles. arada, SaqaraSviliarc CxubSi Careula da arc Ciqovaniucemia. aba, bolomde ratommihyvnen?_ e. i., gvaramias zemoxsenebu-li versia ufro myardeba?_ ar vfiqrob, rom mokvlis motivivinmes gauCnda, magram saubaridasjis motivzea, romelsac absoluturigadameteba moyva._ fotografi iakobi giorgobianisnaTesavi rom ar iyos, Tqve-ni azriT, vinme daafarebda xels?_ Cemi informaciiT, veravis veranairigiorgobiani xels veRarafarebs!_ pirvel etapze?_ gamoricxuli araa. saerTod,am tipTan mimarTebiT patrulisdamokidebuleba Zalian saeWvoa. ismomenti, roca fotografipatruls iZaxebs da raRac sisuleleebixdeba, SeiZleba, am saqmesTanpirdapir bmaSi ar iyos da, ubralod,policiis mankier mxareebsaCendes, magram ra vici, es fotografipatrulma manqanaSi Caisvada TbilisSi wamoiyvana. es ma-Sin, patruls rom uTxra, damasignalebineo,SeiZleba, gaglaxos!sxvaTa Soris, patruls specialuridireqtiva aqvs, rom arSeuZlia, manqanaSi ucxo piri Caisvas,Tu dakarguli bavSvi sklerozianian iseTi piri araa, romelsacsaavadmyofoSi miyvana sWirdeba,anu Tu pirs saSiSroeba ar emuqreba!hoda, Tu fotografs aravinda araferi emuqreboda, gaugebaria,TbilisSi ratom wamoiyvanes?Tu fotografs problema hqondada saSiSroeba emuqreboda, maSinpatrulma Sesabamisad ratom arimoqmeda?_ giorgi, Tqveni dacvis qveSmyofma tatiaSvilma rodis gaigo,rom SaqaraSvili daikarga da verpoulobdnen?_ amas vikvlev. gigasTan amdReebSi SevalT, rom es mimarTulebadavazustoT._ aqamde amis Sesaxeb ar gikiTx-avT?_ ra Tqma unda, vkiTxe da pasuximaqvs, magram raRacebi movismine daam Temaze damatebiTi kiTxvebimaqvs. sxvaTa Soris, igi dakargulbiWs marto ar kiTxulobda daufro saintereso rameebi Cndeba._ kerZod?_ amaTTvis aravis ukiTxavs,SaqaraSvili daikarga Tu ra moxda.mamasTan erTad dadioda dakiTxulobda, es biWi sad wavida._ ukacravad, mamasTan erTadSaqaraSvils Tqveni dacvis qveSmyofi eZebda?_ ki ar eZebda, aramed sufrismonawileebs Soris mokiTxva midioda,sad gaqra, sad daikarga da,saerTod, ra moxdao._ es mokiTxva saWiro ratomgaxda, anu icodnen, rom giorgisraRac SeemTxva?_ Cxubis dros SaqaraSvili iqiyo da yvelas eSinoda, sad gaqra,anu amaT ar icodnen, rom es xalxi„qamrim” scema._ amis Sesaxeb rodis gaiges?_ diliT gogoebi agebineben, im„qamris” biWebs ucemiaT SaqaraSvilida mere daikargao. sxvaTaSoris, dRes dabarebuli myavdamowmeebi, romlebic adastureben:roca gaiges, rom „qamris” biWebsucemiaT da SaqaraSvils gakidebiano,sixarulisgan maRla xtodnenda erTmaneTs xels urtyamdnen,Cven arafer SuaSi varTo, anu vi-Racebi gakidebian da SaqaraSviliimitomaa dakargulio._ anu „mersedesis” jgufsraRac cudis molodini hqonda.ase gamodis?_ ra Tqma unda._ da es biWebi oTxi dRe, anugvamis aRmoCenamde, ratom dumdnenda ar ambobdnen, rom „mersedesis”mgzavrebs garkveuli inci-denti mouxdaT?_ giga 19-sa Tu 20-Sia dakiTxulida detaluri Cveneba aqvsmicemuli, vin sad iyo._ Tu policiam icoda, rom Cx-ubi moxda, aba, gamoZieba Tavidanubeduri SemTxvevis versias ra-tom ganixilavda?_ „qamris” xalxi arafers ambobda,„mersedesis” xalxi ki yvelafersambobda. igive Jvania yveboda,qaTamaZes Tu romeliRacasmovuqnieo._ saerTod, policiam giorgisZebna ratom daiwyo?_ 19-Si, gamTeniisas, dilis 7saaTze, batoni guro SaqaraSvilisojaxs ukavSirdeba da kiTxulobs,giorgi sad ariso. anu tips Tavisimegobari mTeli Rame ar moukiTxavs,kacma ar icis, vis ra emesija,diliT ki ojaxSi rekavs da kiTxulobs,_ giorgi xom ar mosulao?policiaSi ki oficialuri zari 11saaTze Sedis._ giorgis mSoblebisgan?_ Tu ar meSleba, ojaxis axlobelirekavs zanti teqstiT: iciT,ra, biWi saxlSi ar mosulao... da ambiWis Zebnac iwyeba._ Tu ganzrax jgufuri mkvlelobisTvisbrali mxolod „qam-ris” „sastavs” daumZimda, amSemTxvevaSi „mersedesis” xalxsgaaTavisufleben?_ ara._ aba?_ rogorc giTxariT, Cemidacvis qveS myofs damZimeba ki ara,es bralic unda mouxsnan! Jvaniaski, savaraudod, naklebad mZimedazianebis braldebas wauyenebenda kidev ors, anu SesaZlebelia,rom „mersedesidan” sams sxeulisnaklebad mZime dazianebis braldebawauyenon._ e. i., danaSaulis mTeli simZ-ime „qamrize” gadava?_ „qamri” iqneba, Savi „hundai” daTu meoTxe manqana, es ar vici. Sesa-Zloa, vicode, magram komentarsver gavakeTeb.5
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