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เวลาผมอยู่กับป่า ผมไม่กล้าพูดว่าผมสร้างท่านขึ้นมา<br />

ผมพูดได้แค่เพียงว่า ช่วยผมหน่อย ช่วยบอกและสอนผม<br />

ช่วยทำให้ผมมีความรู้หน่อยเถอะ เพื่อที่ผมจะได้นำความรู้นี้<br />

มาช่วยท่านอีก นี่คือสิ่งที่ผมพูดกับป่า<br />

: แล้วในแง่ของการปลูกคนล่ะครับ คุณมี<br />

วิธีการพัฒนาคนยังไงบ้าง<br />

ธนญชัย : ต้นไม้ที่ขึ้นดีที่สุด เราต้องดูแลเขาแต่พอดี<br />

ต้องปล่อยให้เขาเจอปัญหา เจอลมบ้าง เขาต้องเจอรากคลอน<br />

บ้าง ต้องเจอใครบังแสงเขาบ้าง เมื่อไหร่ก็ตามที่ีใครบังแสง<br />

เขาก็ต้องพยายามกระเสือกกระสนเพื่อที่จะรับแสงแดดให้ได้<br />

แล้วสภาวะนั้นเขาเรียกว่าท ำให้มีพลังชีวิต ทำให้เขาแข็งแกร่ง<br />

ขึ้น เพราะฉะนั้นการปลูกคนหรือการให้ความคิดคน จะต้อง<br />

ให้คนนั้นนำความคิดนั้นไปขบคิด แล้วต้องปล่อยให้เขาไป<br />

เผชิญหน้ากับความทุกข์และความยากลำบาก เรื่องนี้ไม่มี<br />

ทางลัด เพราะเมื่อคนเจอปัญหาจะเกิดพลังชีวิต และเกิด<br />

กระบวนการพัฒนา และเกิดปัญญา<br />

แต่เรื่องที ่สำคัญอีกเรื่องคือ ไม้แต่ละต้น คนแต่ละคน<br />

ก็ไม่เหมือนกัน มีความถนัดความชอบไม่เหมือนกัน เราเอา<br />

ต้นไม้ภูเขาไปปลูกริมน้ำไม่ได้ เขาถูกออกแบบมาไม่<br />

เหมือนกัน ถ้าเราศึกษาและเข้าใจเขา เราจะรู้ว่าเขาอยู่ตรงไหน<br />

จะพัฒนาได้เร็วที่สุด นี่คือสิ่งที่เราจะช่วยเขาได้ดีที่สุดให้เขา<br />

มีพื้นที่ของเขา ให้เขาพัฒนาตัวเองในวิถีของเขา จนพึ่งพา<br />

ตัวเองได้และสามารถออกดอกออกผล เผื่อแผ่ให้กับผู้อื่น<br />

Every book says it needs 2 important things to see<br />

the truth. The first is open mind and the second is a<br />

mirror. We have to have open mind because the truth<br />

may not be like what we think nor expect. If we don’t<br />

open our mind, the truth can’t reach us. The clearer<br />

mirror we use, the more clearly we can see the truth.<br />

had talked to Mr.Tor – Thanonchai Sornsriwichai,<br />

a world class director and Cannes Lion winner, about<br />

the real meaning of Core Value, architects, and self<br />

development.<br />

: The word “Core Value” is used more<br />

often nowadays, what does it mean in your opinion?<br />

Thanonchai : (Thinking) “I think it means “the real<br />

value” or “the truth”. No matter how long the time passes,<br />

it will always be the truth.”<br />

: What is the significance of “Core<br />

Value” or “the truth”?<br />

Thanonchai : The core value is the truth. When we<br />

understand the core value of something, we will know<br />

what not the matter. We will be able to cut off the fake<br />

easily because we see the core, the beauty, and the<br />

truth inside. Such as the core value of the locomotion,<br />

it is moving from one place to another, so that we don’t<br />

really need a car, we can walk, crawl, roll, creep, hop,<br />

etc. The communication, for example, there’re not just phone<br />

or Line application. There are many ways to get a person<br />

to understand what we want to communicate. Talking,<br />

looking at each other, or eye-contacting are communication.<br />

They might be better because talking face to<br />

face makes us know if that person is speaking the truth<br />

or not, feeling it or not. Human beings have sense in soul<br />

and feeling. I think this kind of communication is very<br />

sensitive and much more useful.<br />

: How can we understand what is the<br />

core value of that thing?<br />

Thanonchai : I always find the way to answer that<br />

question. We need to focus on the right and useful<br />

questions. Train to ask many questions that will bring you<br />

to understand the core of any topic. However, we can’t<br />

just do questioning, we also have to practice, prove, and<br />

confront the problems, find the ways and the reasons.<br />

The process of finding reasons will bring us to the deeper<br />

sources. The more we find the deeper we go, deep to<br />

the core, then we will get the right solution. The key is not<br />

to be exhausted. Questioning and practicing until it’s in<br />

your daily life. For example, if I was sick, I didn’t take<br />

medicines because I found out medicines are not the<br />

solution. My friend suggested me drink the urine so I<br />

went on studying until I found a video of doctor Kheaw.<br />

Doctor Kheaw’s explanation made it easy to understand.<br />

He said that in the Tripitaka – Buddhist Scriptures, drinking<br />

urine is curing like taking serum or vaccine. So I tried<br />

drinking urine. While trying, I felt my body was getting<br />

better myself. I tried to walk instead of driving a car. I<br />

had walked around Bangkok for a year, and I found out<br />

that walking can make me strong, make me see and<br />

understand life and other people better. So, you have<br />

to prove, feel, and consider it yourself to see and to<br />

understand the core value. I always warn myself that I<br />

am an unenlightened, weak and dumb. No matter what<br />

people say about me, I know that I still need more<br />

development. The maids, guards, or workmen know<br />

something better than I, even they had finished just<br />

Grade 4.<br />

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The most important thing is to review ourselves and<br />

our knowledge all the time. We have to question on<br />

those beliefs. Don’t forget that we have a short life. Once<br />

we were born, we were taught and planted some ideas.<br />

We live among the environment of the society, popularity,<br />

which we have to admit that many things are getting<br />

worse. We have to think back how we were in former<br />

time and how we are now. If you believe that the main<br />

education system we have now is good, I would like to<br />

ask you why the world is getting worse, why the morality<br />

and ethics are deteriorating.<br />

: Let’s use the house designing for an<br />

example, what is the core value of designing a house?<br />

Thanonchai : We have to start at the question<br />

“What is a house?”. A house means a place to live, there’s<br />

a “place” and there’s “living”, and the next question is how<br />

they live. People live by eating, breathing, touching, etc.<br />

We are talking about senses, 6 sense doors (Ayatana 6).<br />

A good residence must help the dwellers to eat well, to<br />

have fresh air to breath, to see green trees for relaxation,<br />

to have good health. So when we reach this, we should<br />

get back to question how to make a good dwelling for<br />

those requirements.<br />

Nowadays we say “we design the house to serve<br />

the owner’s requirement”. What does the word “serve”<br />

mean? “Serve” means answer, fulfill, and satisfy the<br />

need of the owner. Is that need good? It’s up to the<br />

architect’s choices, to build a good dwelling or a place<br />

that “serves” the owner.<br />

: But the owners want their houses to<br />

look cool, like those western awarded houses in magazines,<br />

if the architects don’t do that, he will not get the job.<br />

Thanonchai : Sometimes the owners or our customers<br />

stuck in popularity, in the fascination, in the forms and<br />

lines, in the delusion of ignorance. They don’t know that<br />

those forms might make them live unhappily. They just<br />

have a beautiful house to show off, collect many expensive<br />

things, many rooms, many electrical appliances, a lot of<br />

assets. In fact, all of those make us nervous, make us<br />

check on maids, make us need burglar alarm, guards,<br />

need to check the close circuit TV on cell phones many<br />

times a day. Even we know that we all will die, we can’t<br />

take anything with us, but we allow to make our life time<br />

filled with stress. At this point, someone might say “I’m<br />

rich, it’s not your business.”, then I have to apologize<br />

but I want those rich men to think a bit, for their better<br />

sustainable lives.<br />

If I were an architect, I will study hard and smart<br />

to make the best dwelling. What “the best job” means?<br />

It depends on what we think the core value of our work<br />

is. If our highest value is the acceptance from the westerns,<br />

we should design a fantastic house, like those in magazines.<br />

If you want to build a house that can make the dwellers<br />

live the best lives, you have to study, talk to the owner,<br />

spend time to make him believe and build the best<br />

house for his own life. This can’t give you any awards,<br />

any fame, but the best benefit you will get is your<br />

knowledge. You will know that paving the floor with<br />

granite stones might look great, but it has hard surface,<br />

is electricity conductor and can cause cancer. A house<br />

with glass walls will need to be all air-conditioned, won’t<br />

let your skin to be adjusted to the real air, you can get<br />

sick often and can get liver cancer. You will start to<br />

design a house without a television, no living room,<br />

because sitting for a long time will make the house<br />

owner’s muscles weak. You will start to tell the owner<br />

to take off some ornamental plants, and bring in some<br />

eatable plants. The owner will plant his own vegetables,<br />

do some exercise, being stronger. They won’t waste the<br />

space for a fitness room, because they can exercise<br />

MAY-JUNE 2017 - ISSUE 04

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