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CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK 

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yovelkvireuli gazeTi 

eqskluzivi 

ruseTma saqarTvelos 

patriarqis taxtze meore 

kandidaturac SearCia 

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07.201 

.2019 fasi 2 lari 

mamuka areSiZe: 

`ruseTs 

saqarTvelos 

dasusteba 

sWirdeba!~ 

`rusTavi 2~-is skandaluri saqme 

gv. 8 

kaxa kukava: 

`gvaramiasaviT 

raRacebs 

nu bodavT!~ 

gv. 18 

nika CitaZe: 

`dasavleTi 

saqarTvelos 

winaSe codavs~ 

gv. 2 

ra kavSiri aqvs `paraSutas~ 

gv. 20 

gv. gv. 10 14 

gv. 16 

wilebis gaformebasTan? 

naTia kupraSvili: `CamoiRon prokuraturis 

Tarodan jarji aqimiZisa da daviT dvalis dava~ 

giorgi mSvenieraZe: 

`mesakuTris 

cvlileba 

aucileblad 

moaxdens 

gavlenas 

saredaqcio 

politikaze~ 

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gv. 6 

valeri gelbaxiani: 

ìvaniSvils 

mrCevlad 

ebraeli hyolia 

da dalagebul 

qveyanaSi 

areulobas 

iwyebs!~ 

gv. 14 

gia abaSiZe: 

`strasburgis 

sasamarTlom 

saqarTvelos 

xelisuflebis 

marTlmsajulebas 

wiTeli diplomi 

gadasca~ 1


`rusTavi 2~-is 

„me minda, biZina ivaniSvils vuTxra, 

eliso kilaZe 

roca „rusTavi 2"-s axsenebs da „maest- 

599 17 12 12 

ros” axsenebs: TvalebSi me Semomxede, 

imitom, rom me bevri ram vici, ra 

moxda da ra gakeTda amis Sesaxeb”, _ es frazebi erosi kiwmariSvilma 

gardacvalebamde ramdenime xniT adre gamarTul preskon- 

ferenciaze Tqva. amave preskonferenciaze gairkva, rom man 2009 

wels, misi darRveuli uflebebis dasabruneblad, qibar xalvaSs 

uCivla, xolo saakaSvilis sasamarTlom erosi kiwmariSvils uTxra, 

rom is am davaSi marTalia, magram imis gamo, rom xandazmulobis 

samwliani vada gasulia, misi sarCeli ar dakmayofildeba. 

pirveli oqtombris arCevnebamde 

ramdenime xniT adre, irma 

inaSvilTan interviuSi, biZina 

ivaniSvilma ganacxada, rom 2003 

wels erosi kiwmariSvili mixeil 

saakaSvils premierobas sTxovda. 

am ukanasknelma qibar xalvaSs 

uTxra, rom erosi misTvis 

CamoeSorebinaT, ramac qibari, 

cota ar iyos, daabnia. ivaniSvilis 

mxridan es iyo miniSneba 

imis Taobaze, rom „vardebis 

revoluciis” dros da Semdgom 

periodSic is mixeil saakaSvilis 

partniori iyo, meore 

mxriv, man is faqti daadastura, 

razedac erosi kiwmariSvili 

bolo brifingze laparakobda. 

„arsebobs „rusTavi 2"-is sami 

damfuZnebeli _ erosi, daviT 

dvali da jarji aqimiZe, nika 

tabataZec, magram mas mxolod 

10% aqvs. miSa sTxovs biZinas da 

qibars, Tavidan moaSoros televiziis 

damfuZneblebi, anu qibari 

da biZina arian kargebi, Cven 

varT cudebi an ivaniSvilma unda 

Tqvas, rom es aris winasaar- 

Cevno wamocdena, an faqti dadasturebulad 

unda CavTvaloT”, 

_ es iyo bolo fraza, romliTac 

erosi kiwmariSvilma 25 

dekembris preskonferencia daasrula. 

cxadia, ivaniSvils azradac 

ar mosvlia ramis uaryofa, 

metic, ramdenime wlis mere 

misi saxeli pirdapir daukavSirda 

„rusTavi 2"-is skandalur 

saqmes. 

JurnalistebTan Sexvedra 

bolo, xolo misi frazebi erosi 

kiwmariSvilisTvis sabediswero 

aRmoCnda. ramdenime Tve- 

ra kavSiri aqvs `paraSutas~ 

wilebis gaformebasTan? 

Si sakuTari saxlis avtofarex- 

Si kiwmariSvili gardacvlili 

ipoves. gamoZieba dRemde TviTmkvlelobis 

versiaze muSaobs, 

magram, realurad, aravis epareba 

eWvi, rom kiwmariSvili mokles 

da misi mkvleloba, savaraudod, 

swored rom „rusTavi 

2"-is garSemo ganviTarebul 

movlenebs ukavSirdeba. 

yofili premieri arasodes 

malavda, rom „rusTavi 2"-is interesi 

hqonda. jer kidev politikaSi 

mosvlis pirvel dReebSi 

is sajaro gancxadebebiT 

cdilobda Jurnalistebis gadabirebas, 

maT arnaxulad maRal 

xelfass da sasaTbure pirobebs 

sTavazobda. mogvianebiT, 2012 

wlis saparlamento arCevnebis 

win, sozar subaris iniciativiT, 

qobuleTSi rom „qarTuli 

ocnebis” maJoritarad swored 

qibar xalvaSis da, fati xalva- 

Si waradgina, motivacia martivi 

iyo _ rodesme xalvaSi saWiro 

gaxdeboda. 

arCevnebis win ivaniSvilis 

interesebis sferoSi aseve Sedioda 

telekompania „maestro”. 

ivaniSvilis mowodeba mxolod 

„elvare niWis” patronma Salva 

ramiSvilma gaiTvaliswina da 

pirvelsave daZaxilze ivaniSvilis 

kalTaSi gadaxta, magram es 

sakmarisi namdvilad ar gaxldaT, 

swored am dros „maestros” 

mmarTveli kompaniis 50%- 

iani wilis mflobeli qibar xalvaSi 

iyo, televizias ki ivani- 

Svils londonSi mcxovrebi biznesmeni, 

vano CxartiSvili, 12 

milionad sTavazobda. ivaniSvili 

Tanaxma iyo, es Tanxa gadaexada, 

magram am garigebis dadebis 

saSualeba mas maSindelma 

mrCevelma gia xuxaSvilma ar misca. 

mogvianebiT, moqalaqes mamuka 

Rlonti miuyvanes da winasaarCevnod 

„maestros” mxardaWera 

bevrad ufro iafad moipova. 

Tu isev „vardebis revoluciis” 

periods davubrundebiT, 

biZina ivaniSvilma da qibar 

xalvaSma namdvilad gauwies 

mixeil saakaSvils fasdaudebeli 

samsaxuri. erosi kiwmariSvilis 

Tavidan moSorebaSi daexmarnen. 

mogexsenebaT, saakaSvilis 

karze gavlenebisTvis 

brZola mudmivad mimdinareobda. 

im periodisTvis dawinaurebuli 

Tavdacvis ministri irakli 

oqruaSvili gaxldaT. oqruaSvilma 

SevardnaZis karis ramdenime 

biznesmeni gadmoibira 

da Tavdacvis fondis meSveobiT 

„obSiakis” Segroveba daiwyo. 

maT Soris iyvnen foTis portis 

direqtori jemal imnaiSvili, 

romelic SevardnaZis mZaxlebis, 

axvledianebis biznespartniori 

gaxldaT da misi deidaSvili 

Tamaz niJaraZe, „paraSuta”, 

romelic aqtiurad exmareboda 

mixeil saakaSvils aslan 

abaSiZis winaaRmdeg aWaris revoluciis 

dReebSi. oqruaSvilis 

daxmarebiT niJaraZe jarTis 

biznesis monopolisti gaxda da 

saqarTvelodan gasul yovel 

tona jarTze 15% swored ni- 

JaraZisa da oqruaSvilis yulabaSi 

midioda (am sqemebze da detalebze 

„qronika+~ wina wlebis 

nomrebSi ukve werda). 

amave periodSi daiwyo brZola 

„rusTavi 2"-ze gavlenebis 

mosapoveblad. 

erosi kiwmariSvili kategoriul 

uars acxadebda televiziaSi 

misi wilis daTmobaze, 

amitom danarCeni mowileebis 

daTanxmeba iyo saWiro. marTalia, 

dRes daviT dvali da jarji 

aqimiZe acxadeben, rom isini 

saakaSvilis reJimis msxverplebi 

arian da maT wili iZulebiT 

daaTmobines, magram „qronika+”- 

is wyaro, romelic am procesis 

Tanamonawilea, pirvelad yveba 

sajarod maTi garigebis detalebs. 

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skandaluri saqme 

molaparakebebi daviT dval- 

Tan da jarji aqimiZesTan yazbegis 

(yofili pavlovis) quCaze, 

Tamaz niJaraZis ofisSi mimdinareobda. 

maTTan momlaparakebeli 

jemal imnaiSvili iyo. mTavari 

piroba, romelsac oqruaSvilis 

mxare „rusTavi 2"-is mowileebs 

uyenebda, is gaxldaT, 

rom garigebis detalebi konfidencialuri 

yofiliyo. orive 

maTgans wili ise unda gaeyida, 

erosi kiwmariSvils amis Sesaxeb 

araferi Seetyo. diax, saubari 

iyo ara wilis „axevaze” da 

iZulebaze, rogorc axla amas 

daviT dvali da jarji aqimiZe 

yvebian, aramed wilis SeZenaze. 

karga xnis vaWrobis Semdeg orive 

maTgani wilis gayidvas das- 

Tanxmda, „Cagrulma” partniorebma 

realurad erosi gadaagdes, 

„ikrises” da wilebi misgan 

malulad gayides. TiToeul ma- 

Tgans 630 aTasi dolari swored 

irakli oqruaSvilis „obSiakidan” 

gadauxades. ramdenad 

wesieri saqcielia dvalisa da 

aqimiZis mxridan es garigeba, 

mgoni, amis Sefaseba Zneli ar 

unda iyos. orive maTganis wili 

Tamaz niJaraZis colisZmaze, 

paata qarsaniZeze gadaformda, 

romelic, mogvianebiT, qibar 

xalvaSma gadaiforma. kidev er- 

Txel vimeoreb: aranair iZulebas 

da zewolas adgili ar hqonia, 

aqimiZem da dvalma erosi 

kiwmariSvili gadaagdes. metic, 

oqruaSvilis pirobac patiosnad 

Seasrules. erosim garigebis 

detalebi mxolod wilebis 

gayidvis Semdeg gaigo, _ uyveba 

„qronika+”-s konfidencialuri 

wyaro. 

rogor ganviTarda movlenebi 

amis Semdeg? 

jemal imnaiSvili erosi kiwmariSvils 

Sexvda da mas oqruaSvilis 

danabarebi gadasca, _ 

jiutobas SeeSvi, 66% ukve Cvenia 

da darCenili wili gayideo. 

erosi mixvda, rom waago. realurad, 

misi eSinodaT, amitom 

gadawyvita, droebiT gverdze 

gamdgariyo. man wilis gayidvaze 

Tanxmoba ganacxada, magram... 

dvalisa da aqimiZisgan gansxvavebiT, 

iafad _ ara. oficialuri 

informaciiT, mas saku- 

Tar wilSi 6 milioni dolari 

gadauxades, magram araoficialurad 

samjer met cifrs 

asaxelebdnen. im momentisTvis 

xelisuflebaSi mosul „nacebs” 

amdeni fuli ar hqondaT. „qronika+~-is 

wyaro varaudobs, rom 

erosis es Tanxa ara qibar xalvaSma, 

aramed biZina ivaniSvilma 

gadauxada. qibar xalvaSi am 

davaSi maSinac „peSka” iyo, roca 

oqruaSvilis gavlenebis wyalobiT 

televizia gauformes da 

„peSkaa” axlac, roca „rusTavi 

2"-is kanonier mflobeladaa 

gamocxadebuli. 

„qronika+~-is wyaros informaciiT, 

qibar xalvaSs arc mTlad 

oqruaSvilis xaTriT gauwevia 

es samsaxuri saakaSvilis 

xelisuflebisTvis, miSam piradad 

sTxova alievs, xalvaSs azerbaijanSi 

biznessqema daulages 

da „Procter &Gamble“-s produqciis 

Setanis saSualeba misces, 

riTac is, erTi periodi, 

Zalian bednieri iyo, magram roca 

sanacvlod televiziaSi 

fulis xarjva mouwia, mudmivad 

wuwunebda, _ zedmeti Tavis tkivili 

da xarji risTvis mWirdebao. 

am tvirTisgan „ganTavisuflebaSi” 

mas isev irakli oqruaSvili 

dexmara. 2006 wlis bolos 

da 2007 wlis dasawyisSi saakaSvilis 

xelisufleba informacias 

iRebs, rom Tavdacvis 

ministri 200 000 dolars ixdis 

gasaidumloebul kvlevaSi, romelsac 

sakuTari reitingis gasarkvevad 

atarebs. ukve cxadia, 

rom oqruaSvils Tavdacvis ministris 

posti aRar akmayofilebs 

da mas saprezidento ambiciebi 

aqvs. amave periodSi kuluarebSi 

informacias iReben imis 

Taobaze, rom oqruaSvils 

araoficialuri, saidumlo Sexvedrebi 

aqvs rusul samxedro 

da politikur wreebTan. am informaciis 

miRebis Semdeg mixeil 

saakaSvili irakli oqruaSvilTan 

pirispir cdilobs situaciis 

garkvevas, Tumca oqruaSvili 

mas simarTles ar umxels. 

swored am momentSi miiRes 

gadawyvetileba irakli oqruaSvilis 

Tavdacvis ministris postidan 

gadayenebisa da misi ekonomikis 

ministrad daniSvnis Sesaxeb. 

odnav ufro adre mas 

„rusTavi 2"-is wilebis gadaformeba 

mosTxoves. „ukve mivxvdi, 

rom miSa aRar mendoboda”, 

_ es fraza araerTgzis aqvs na- 

Tqvami irakli oqruaSvils axlo 

garemocvaSi. ase daabrunebines 

qibar xalvaSs televiziis 

is wili, romelSic arc Tanxa 

gadauxdia da wilis ganmkargavic 

mxolod oqruaSvilis megobris 

statusiT iyo. 

mogvianebiT, irakli oqruaSvili 

opoziciaSi wavida, is dai- 

Wires, aRiarebiTi Cvenebis Semdeg 

safrangeTSi gauSves da 

saqarTveloSi mxolod xelisuflebis 

Secvlis mere dabrunda. 

dapirebis miuxedavad, miSa 

verc moZebna da verc TvalebSi 

Caxeda, magram sxvagvarad iZia 

Suri, _ samSobloSi dabrunebulma 

mis winaaRmdeg Cveneba 

misca, sul axlaxan ki sajaro 

politikaSi dabrunda. amboben, 

rom qibar xalvaSsa da irakli 

oqruaSvils Soris Savma katam 

didi xania da mas Semdeg gairbina, 

rac qibarma emigraciaSi 

myofi megobari upatronod miatova 

da misive wyalobiT naSovni 

fuli moutexa. 

biZina ivaniSvili fiqrobs, 

rom „rusTavi 2" misia, radgan, 

rogorc amboben, erosi kiwmariSvilis 

wilis gamosyidvaSi 

realurad man gadaixada Tanxa. 

es simarTle erosi kiwmariSvilma 

icoda, romelic dRes 

cocxali aRaraa, icis qibar xalvaSma, 

romelsac xelisuflebam 

sasaTbure pirobebi Seuqmna, 

icis saakaSvilis yofilma 

„kasirma” Tamaz niJaraZem, 

romelic uSualod monawileobda 

jarji aqimiZisa da daviT 

dvalis wilebis gamosyidvis 

procesSi. imis gamo, rom „para- 

Sutas” mexsiereba ar gaunaTdes 

da moulodnelad ar alaparakdes, 

arnaxuli siswrafiT moxda 

misi saakaSvilis reJimis 

„msxverplad” gamocxadeba, elviseburi 

siswrafiT midis sasamarTlo 

dava da igebs procesebs, 

Tavis droze, mas kezeraSvilis 

winaaRmdeg Cvenebac miacemines 

im saqmeze, romelic 

Tavdacvis eqsministrs Tavad 

SesTavaza da imis gamo, rom e. 

w. bunkirebis biznesidan kontrabandas 

„akatavebda”, daWeras 

isev kezeraSvilis wyalobiT 

gadaurCa. mogvianebiT, 

kezeraSvilma uCa mamacaSvilis 

wyalobiT, xelisuflebasTan 

urTierTobebi daalaga, „para- 

Suta” ki am garigebis wyalobiT, 

mxolod meorexarisxovan 

rolSi aRmoCnda. 

bolo oTxi welia, „rusTavi 

2"-is winaaRmdeg xelisuflebis 

Sturmi mimdinareobs. am procesis 

msxverpli mosamarTle Tamaz 

urTmeliZea, romelsac jer 

biZina ivaniSvili gaemijna, mogvianebiT 

ki _ daviT dvali da 

rezo sayevariSvili. am ukanasknelma 

sakuTari uflebamosileba 

nebayoflobiT gadasca 

nika gvaramias, radgan, saboloo 

jamSi, mixvda, rom saku- 

Tari qonebiT mouwevda im valdebulebebisTvis 

pasuxismgebloba, 

romelic mas, rogorc 

„rusTavi 2"-is droebiT mmarTvels, 

ekisreboda. 

am xnis ganmavlobaSi 315-e 

muxliT saxelmwifo gadatrialebaze 

ramdenjerme daiwyo 

gamoZieba. bolo sul axlaxan, 

20 ivnisis „gavrilovis Rames”. 

xelisufleba amtkicebs, rom 

opozicia parlamentis Senoba- 

Si SeWras gegmavda, konkretul 

mtikicebulebebze sajarod 

jer ar laparakoben, magram 

dReis mdgomareobiT braldebulia 

12 piri, maT Soris, parlamentis 

deputati nika melia. 

18 ivliss strasburgis adamianis 

uflebaTa sasamarTlom 

„rusTavi 2"-is yvela sarCeli 

dauSveblad cno da aRsrulebis 

droebiTi SeCerebis meqanizmic 

moxsna. realurad, televiziis 

irgvliv movlenebi elvis 

siswrafiT ganviTarda, sajaro 

reestrma rusTavi oris 

mesakuTred erT dReSi daaregistrira 

qibar xalvaSi, televiziis 

generaluri direqtori 

ki paata salia gaxda. 

„rusTavi orisTvis” sasamar- 

Tlo dava daiwyo yofilma Tavdacvis 

ministrma irakli oqruaSvilmac. 

rogorc gairkva, 2010 

wels germaniaSi is qibar xalvaSs 

Sexvda da rusTavi oris 

sakuTrebaze misgan oficialuri 

nebarTva moipova. dokumenti 

notarialurad gaformebulia 

da sami qveynis eqspertizis 

daskvnac Tan axlavs. irakli 

oqruaSvilis warmomadgenlebma 

sasamarTloSi sarCeli ukve 

Seitanes. 

„rusTavi 2" 25 wlisaa, 

televizia damoukidebel 

saqarTvelosTan erTad gaizarda, 

is am qveynis mematianea. rogori 

iqneba televiziis momavali 

strasburgis gadawyvetilebis 

mere? kuluaruli informaciiT, 

qibar xalvaSi „rusTavi 

2"-s gayidis, axali mesakuTre ki 

mas an saxelisuflebo arxad 

gadaaqcevs, an saerTod daxuravs. 

is, rom saredaqcio damoukidebloba 

ar Seicvleba, qibar 

xalvaSis dapirebaa, magram am 

dapirebis aravis sjera. 

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ruseTma saqarTvelos patriarqis 

verc erTi skeptikosi da Cem 

goCa mircxulava 

mimarT negatiurad ganwyobili 

599 26 83 83 

adamiani ver uaryofs Semdeg 

faqts _ meufe Sios mosaydred 

gamorCevamde erTi TviT adre davwere, rom ruseTma saqarTvelos 

kaTolikos-patriarqis taxtze aRsasaydreblad kandi- 

dati SegvirCia da rom is swored meufe Sio iyo. ramdenime 

xani iqilika yovlismcodne qarTulma saeqsperto wreebma _ 

ambavi siRrmeebis gareSe gaatara yvela nacionalurma 

telemauwyebelma, wauyrua sxva gamocemebma da uceb _ gior- 

goba dRes _ „gavigeT”, rom Sio mujiri mosaydred dasaxelda. 

Semdgomi ganmartebebic gemaxsovrebaT, lamis imas rom gvimt- 

kicebda sapatriarqos inJiner-Teologi doqtori Tu Sios 

kariskaci, _ CaTvaleT, patriarqia ukveo. magram es sibriyve 

detalia mxolod am yvelaferSi, anu faqtis dadastureba. 

axla Siosa da mis prorusulobaze 

nu damawyebinebT weras 

_ damindeT. ubralod sxva, umniSvnelovanesi 

faqti unda gava- 

JRero: ÃÐÓ da moskovisa da 

sruliad ruseTis patriarqi 

kirili SeTanxmdnen saqarTvelos 

momavali kaTolikos-patriarqis 

meore kandidaturazec. 

anu sdl-s (sajdomTa dacvis 

legionis) kombalTuxucesma da 

raindma (mapatieT am cinikuri 

qaragmisTvis), levan vasaZem, ver 

SeZlo davalebis Sesruleba _ 

saxelmwifoSi politikur-patriotul-religiur-kulturuli 

Sokisa da Sedegad gadatrialebis 

mowyoba, miT ufro, rom amisTvis 

Semzadebuli iyo yvela 

saxis garemoeba, Seqmnili iyo 

foni da yvelaferi Caflavda. 

amis mere, sul ramdenime dRis 

win, moskovSi gegma „b” CaeSva. 

imis miuxedavad, rom Sio kvlav 

rCeba erT-erT kandidatad, 

gadawyvetilia, rom nebismieri 

garTulebis, daugegmavi garemoebebis 

Tavidan asacileblad 

da am „specoperaciis” warmatebiT 

dasagvirgvineblad iqneba 

meore kandidatic. meore kandidati 

sinodis centristuli 

wridan _ ara odiozuri, sazogadoebisTvis 

„misaRebi”, gonieri, 

dinji, minimaluri cxovrebiseuli 

zianiT, kargi reputaciiT, 

mrevlis keTilganwyobiT. 

persona, romelic daaxloebuli 

iqneba (aris) konfliqtur regionebTan. 

es garemoeba aucilebelia 

imis demonstrirebisTvis, 

rom SeZlebs moagvaros konfliqtebi. 

persona, romelsac eqneba 

devnili mosaxleobis mxardaWera, 

persona, romelsac mxars 

dauWers saqarTvelos minimum 

ori mniSvnelovani (mosaxleobis 

raodenobis mxriv) kuTxe. persona, 

romelic ar aris „SemCneuli” 

xelisuflebebTan aliansSi 

`sdl-s (sajdomTa dacvis legionis) 

kombalTuxucesma da raindma (mapatieT am 

cinikuri qaragmisTvis), levan vasaZem, ver 

SeZlo davalebis Sesruleba - saxelmwifoSi 

politikur-patriotul-religiur-kulturuli 

Sokisa da Sedegad gadatrialebis mowyoba, 

miT ufro, rom amisTvis Semzadebuli iyo 

yvela saxis garemoeba, Seqmnili iyo foni da 

yvelaferi Caflavda. amis mere, sul 

ramdenime dRis win, moskovSi gegma `b~ CaeSva~ 

`visac qarTuli saxelmwifosa da saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebeli eklesiis bedi aRelvebs, 

kargad unda esmodes, yvela saxis Zalisa da 

zewolis sapirwone mxolod progresuli da 

reformatoruli Zalaa da ara mterTan 

aliansSi myofi da misi interesebis 

realizatori. droa, saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebeli eklesiis ierarqebma 

daindon sakuTari eri Tundac imitom, rom 

"qristes ebraleboda eri, mas emsaxureboda da 

masze zrunavda, ambobda xSirad: `mewyalis eri 

eseo~ (mark. 8,2). Sesabamisad, `nu daidumebT 

erisTvisao~, - gveubneba Cveni moZRvreba da ar 

vdumvar, nu dadumdebiT Tqvenc~ 

da persona, romelic erovnulpatriotul 

sentimentebze advilad 

aagdebs, daagoimebs mrevlsa 

da ers. persona, romelic 

mkveTrad misaRebi Tu ara, miu- 

Rebelic ar aris msoflio mar- 

Tlmadidebluri saZmosTvis da 

ramdenad misaReba ruseTisTvis, 

amis dakvna ar gagiWirdebaT. 

sakmaod gonieri gadawyvetilebaa 

_ anu kargad SerCeuli kadria, 

verafers ityvi da es persona 

srulebiTac ar jdeba Sios 

tipaJSi. piriqiT _ saerTod gansxvavebulia, 

ase erTmniSvnelovnad 

mas prorusulobas ver 

dasdeb bralad da „Tumca” aris 

erTi niuansi, razedac sul bolos 

mogaxsenebT... 

*** 

axla swored am personas minda, 

mivmarTo, _ ratom, meufev, 

ratom? 

„ocdaaTiode wlis winaT mowme 

gavxdi Semdegi sanaxaobisa: 

q. soxumis bulvari, zRvis pirad 

mravali moseirne. aqve dgas ori 

rusi Zalze SezarxoSebuli. er- 

Ti maTgani uCvenebs Tovlian 

mTebze da eubneba meores: „Ýòè 

ãîðû íàøè... Âñå íàðîäû òàì 

æèâóøíå íàøè ïîääàííûå è âñå çäåñü 

ãóëÿþùèå íàì ïîä÷èíåíû”. da daabolova 

imnairi sityvebiT, romlis 

moyvana aq ar SeiZleba”. 

ho: „...è âñå çäåñü ãóëÿþùèå...” 

anu SegiZlia iseirno kidec, e. 

i. iyo kmayofili, mSvidi, daculi, 

keTildReobaSi myofi, magram 

aucileblad... „íàì ïîä÷èíåíû...” 

rame rom ar SegeSaloT, es 

Cemi mogoneba ki ar gaxlavT, ka- 

Tolikos ambrosi xelaias sityvebia. 

ra simboluria, ara? 30 

wlis winaTo... gagaxsenoT, ra 

moxda 1989 wlis ivlisSi soxum- 

Si? 

ise, es sityvebi 95 wlis winaT, 

16 marts, wminda ambrosi aRmsarebelma 

(xelaia) warmoTqva sasamarTlo 

procesze da istoriul 

prizmaSi Tavad gaasamarTla 

reJimi, romlis narCenebsac 

dRemde vebrZviT is adamianebi, 

romelTaTvisac saqarTvelo da 

misi moqalaqe Tavisuflebis 

gareSe arafers Rirebuls ar 

warmoadgens. da Tqven raze gaeciT 

Tanxmoba _ gaxdeT egzarqosi? 

Sios bedi ar gaRelvebT 

da es cxadia, magram Tqveni? ras 

fiqrobT, rom ruseTs moatyuebT, 

ÃÐÓ-s moatyuebT, ufro 

sworad, saqarTvelos xalxs ras 

uCurCulebT yurSi, _ movatyueb 

da erovnul saqmes gavakeTebo? 

eSmaks ver moatyueb, mas vali 

unda gadauxado... 

iciT, aseT viTarebaSi ra iqneboda 

erovnuli saqme, meufev? 

yvelani, vinc mibmulni hyavxarT 

ruseTs, gamoxvideT, CamwkrivdeT 

da ers uTxaraT, _ ki, dagvemarTa 

aseTi ubedureba, vinaniebT 

da vdgebiT saqarTvelos 

_ qristes samsaxurSi _ 

RmerTma dalocos saqarTvelo! 

metyviT, varT qristes samsaxurSio 

da maSin gipasuxebT, iuda? 

vis samsaxurSi iyo iuda? 

barem, erTi citatac ambrosi 

xelaias im cnobili sityvidan, 

romelic, sxalTis episkoposisgan 

gansxvavebiT, Tqven namdvilad 

unda gqondeT wakiTxuli, 

Tumca ver daviCemeb, rom bevrma 

icis amis Sesaxeb saeklesio 

wreebSi: „Cemi 37 wlis samsaxuri 

me movandome garusebis politikasTan 

brZolas. vibrZodi 

rogorc moqmedebiT, ise presis 

saSualebiT, ramac SemZina auwereli 

devnuloba da Cems cxovrebaSi 

ar minaxavs tkbili da 

myudro dReebi. orjer ganvicade 

samSoblodan eqsorioba. 

orjer viyavi gadasaxlebuli 

ruseTSi da orjerve samSoblo- 

Si damabruna revoluciam (1905- 

1907 ww.)”. 

me ase mesmis samSoblos msaxureba, 

ase da is nu dagamSvidebT, 

rom gareT 2019 welia. 

*** 

mokled, am meore kandidat- 

Tan dakavSirebuli gegma aseTia: 

mosaydrem _ meufe Siom _ Tu 

aseTi ram moxda da qarTvelma 

erma da mrevlma sabolood „gamoiRviZa” 

am personis mimarT, 

maqsimalurad unda „Seizilos” 

rusuli talaxi da bolos ganacxados 

daaxloebiT aseTi Sinaarsis 

ram: me daumsaxureblad 

msayvedurobdnen uamrav rames, 

meZaxdnen proruss, ambobdnen, 

rom var ruseTis eklesiis kadri 

da rom ruseTi moiTxovda Cems 

gapatriarqebas. varwmuneb yvelas, 

amis Sesaxeb arasodes mifiqria. 

me patiosnad da TmeniT vzide 

es mZima jvari da axla sajarod 

vacxadeb _ ar maqvs patriarqobis 

pretenzia da mxars vu- 

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taxtze meore kandidaturac SearCia 

Wer Cveni eklesiis gamorCeul, 

damsaxurebul da amagdar wevrs, 

suliT-xorcamde patriots, 

SeubRalavi reputaciis adamians, 

RvTismsaxurs maRalyovladusamRvdeloes 

mitropolits... 

mesmis, mesmis, ver iTmenT... 

amitomac xdeba mere Sinaarsi 

meorexarisxovani, amitom mogiwevT, 

moiTminoT.... 

*** 

erTi amonaridi Cemi 2018 

wlis publikaciidan: „saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebel eklesia- 

Si bolo dros zedapirze amotivtivebul 

Slams ori maprovocirebeli 

faqti uZRvis win: „17 

maisi” da „cianidis saqme”. eklesiaSi 

rom yvelaferi rigze ar 

iyo, amas siRrmeebSi wvdoma ar 

sWirdeboda _ arc calkeuli 

mRvdelmsaxurebis sixarbes, arc 

maT momxveWelobas, arc maT 

uRmerTobas, arc daundoblobas. 

Tumca rodesac adamianebi, 

mrevli calkeul faqtebze apelirebda 

da am faqtebidan gamomdinare 

ambobda, _ mwams ufali, 

magram ar vaRiareb mRvdels, 

es eklesiis mmarTveli organos 

_ sapatriarqos mier metwilad 

aRiqmeboda, rogorc eklesiis 

diskreditebis mcdeloba. am da 

sxva mravali subieqturi garemoebis 

gaTvaliswinebiT _ rwmenis 

upiratesobis aRiarebiT _ 

uamravi adamiani Tavs aridebda 

siRrmeebSi Casvlas da mxilebas. 

mxilebis ufleba, ratomRac, 

mxolod da mxolod, eklesiam 

daiprivatizira. wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

Caketili sistemis formireba, 

rodesac garedan rame 

kritikulis Tqma miuRebeli 

iyo, xolo SigniT myofT lamis 

imis ufleba hqondaT, SeewyalebinaT, 

daeniSnaT da daewinaurebinaT, 

gaekicxaT, ecemaT, 

edevnaT da a. S., eklesia avtoritarul 

organod aqcia, Tumca 

marTvis am stilis Sedegebs 

axla imkis ara mxolod es instituti, 

aramed mrevlic da saxelmwifoc”. 

da rogor fiqrobT, 

vinme am yvelafris Secvlas apirebs? 

an es mitropoliti, romelsac 

sakuTari Tavi ukve lamis 

patriarqi hgonia da axla 

erTi suli aqvs, rac SeiZleba 

bevri ram cudi iTqvas Sioze? an 

Tundac „cianidis saqmeze” amoi- 

Rebs igi xmas? _ ara! is xom erTerTia 

im oTxi episkoposidan, 

romelsac mama giorgi mamalaZem 

is „cnobili”, magram jerac 

gausajaroebeli werilebi gaugzavna? 

aha, naxeT, rogor davaviwrove 

wre... 

*** 

meufev, zustad vici ramdenjerme 

waikiTxavT am werils, 

isic zustad vici, mere matriarq 

SorenasTan, Tqvens Tavgadaklul 

rekomendatorTan ganmartovdebiT 

da ra? sisuleleao, 

ver ityviT veranairad am yvelaferze. 

inJiner-Teologebis 

ganmartebebi da idioturi komentarebi 

Cemze ar moqmedebs. 

èklesiis dogmatikisa Tu RvTismetyvelebis 

sakiTxebs ki ar gedavebiT, aramed samSoblos. 

Tumca saqarTvelos eklesiaSi TeologiaSi 

rom moikoWlebT, es araerTxel gvinaxavs da 

Semdgomac vnaxavT, rac arasakmarisi 

ganaTlebis mizezia. Tumca mjera, es viTareba 

droTa ganmavlobaSi, TaobaTa cvlasTan 

erTad, gamoswordeba, magram, isev da isev, 

ambrosi xelaias moviSvelieb da vityvi: ès 

imas ar niSnavs, rom pirSi wyali CaviyenoT da 

ara vsTqvaT ra...~ 

iciT, ratom? eklesiis dogmatikisa 

Tu RvTismetyvelebis 

sakiTxebs ki ar gedavebiT, aramed 

samSoblos. Tumca saqarTvelos 

eklesiaSi TeologiaSi rom 

moikoWlebT, es araerTxel gvinaxavs 

da Semdgomac vnaxavT, 

rac arasakmarisi ganaTlebis mizezia. 

Tumca mjera, es viTareba 

droTa ganmavlobaSi, Taoba- 

Ta cvlasTan erTad, gamoswordeba, 

magram, isev da isev, ambrosi 

xelaias moviSvelieb da vityvi: 

„es imas ar niSnavs, rom pir- 

Si wyali CaviyenoT da ara vsTqvaT 

ra...” an ar vTqvaT is, ra 

cudi saqmis gakeTebas apirebT 

saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli 

eklesiisTvis, qarTuli saxelmwifosTvis. 

axla metad ar SegexebiT 

arc Tqven da arc Tqvens 

damqaSebsa Tu patronebs. 

*** 

dRes saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli 

eklesiis winaSe dgas 

umTavresi amocana _ Rirseulad 

gauZlos im gansacdels, romlis 

winaSec aRmoCnda. SemeZlo meTqva, 

_ daiyena sakuTari Tavi... 

magram „aRmoCnda”, amasac gulisxmobs 

bevr sxva qmedebasTan 

erTad. kvlav grZeldeba patriarqis 

taxtisTvis brZola da 

omi. kvlav uweso wesebiT da kvlav 

mtris uSualo monawileobiT. 

iq, saqarTvelos sapatriarqoSi, 

da saqarTvelos marTlmadidebel 

eklesiaSi, gaigeT yvelam, 

gaigos mrevlma da erma, 

gaigos saqarTvelos xalxma, rom 

wina planze unda gamovides saqarTvelos 

marTlmadidebeli 

eklesiis interesebi, romelic 

swored efuZneba or umTavres 

princips _ Tavisuflebasa da 

kanonierebas, radgan „samRvdeloeba 

yovelTvis iyo damcveli 

saqarTvelos Tavisuflebis ideisa”... 

es aris qarTveli eris dakve- 

Ta. metic: visac qarTuli saxelmwifosa 

da saqarTvelos mar- 

Tlmadidebeli eklesiis bedi 

aRelvebs, kargad unda esmodes, 

yvela saxis Zalisa da zewolis 

sapirwone mxolod progresuli 

da reformatoruli Zalaa da 

ara mterTan aliansSi myofi da 

misi interesebis realizatori. 

droa, saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli 

eklesiis ierarqebma 

daindon sakuTari eri Tundac 

imitom, rom „qristes ebraleboda 

eri, mas emsaxureboda da 

masze zrunavda, ambobda xSirad: 

„mewyalis eri eseo” (mark. 8,2). 

Sesabamisad, „nu daidumebT 

erisTvisao”, _ gveubneba Cveni 

moZRvreba da ar vdumvar, nu 

dadumdebiT Tqvenc. 

saxeli? ver moiTmenen, uRalatebT 

nervebi da wamoscdebaT. 

ara? vityvi, ra problemaa... 

*** 

zemoT dagpirdiT, rom ganvmartavdi 

„Tumcas”... ufro sworad, 

erT arcTu umniSvnelo 

niuanss. ÃÐÓ-Si sulelebi ar 

sxedan da mitropolitis kandidaturis 

ganxilvisas da piradad 

masTan saubrisas wamoiWra 

Tema, ra kompromati SeiZleba 

daidon, amoutivtovon meufes. 

da aRmoCnda, rom aris aseTi 

ram, razedac saeklesio wreeb- 

Si, sinodSi saubroben da Cur- 

Culeben. Turme mitropoliti 

episkoposi rom gaxda, mas Semdeg 

gamJRavnda, rom is ar iyo mona- 

Tluli da saswrafo wesiT monaTles(?!!). 

anu arc erTi mowme, 

romelic mis naTlobas, Tu ase- 

Ti ram moxda im dros, rodesac 

igi amas asakis gamo ver gaixsenebda, 

bunebaSi ar aRmoCnda. 

magram ÃÐÓ-sa da rusi TeologebisTvis 

araferi aRmoCnda es 

problema. da axla „momavali 

patriarqi” Tavs istoriuli 

faqtebiT imSvidebs; anu saWiroebis 

SemTxvevaSi ra unda gaa- 

JReron man Tavad an misma mxardamWerebma. 

magram ara rogorc 

mtkiceba ramis, aramed miniSneba, 

asec rom iyos, mere ra moxda, 

precedenti arsebobso... 

faqti, romliTac unda dagvabolon: 

wminda foti, konstantinopoleli 

patriarqi (810- 

893w.w) IX saukuneSi cxovrobda 

da keTilmsaxur qristianTa ojaxis 

STamomavali iyo. 857 wels 

imperator mixeilis TanammarTvelma, 

bardam, konstantinopolis 

kaTedridan gaaZeva patriarqi 

egnate da mis nacvlad fotis 

dadgineba gadawyvita. momaval 

wmindans am maRali xarisxisTvis 

Tavi uRirsad miaCnda da 

uarobda, magram misi ar Seismines: 

eqvsi dRis ganmavlobaSi 

aamaRles ierarqiis safexurebze 

da Sobis dResaswaulze patriarqadac 

akurTxes. 

Tumca aqac Secdomaa Cvens 

SemTxvevasTan misasadageblad. 

wminda foti eqvsi dRis ganmavlobaSi 

aRamaRles da mere aravis 

mounaTlavs, manam monaTles 

da ise gadaidga yvela sxva formaluri 

nabiji. axla ori gamosavali 

arsebobs, _ an is unda 

uaryon, rogor monaTles meored, 

an ararsebuli mowme gamoaCinon 

_ anu persona, vinc naTlobis 

rituals daaxloebiT 50 

wlis win eswreboda. Tumca ÃÐÓsTvis 

SeuZlebeli araferia, 

iseve rogorc kedlisTvis cercvis 

Seyraa, qarTvel morwmunes 

uTxra, rom mas RvTismsaxuri 

abolebs. sul es iyo, am jerze 

risi Tqmac msurda. 

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5


`qveyana Cabneldeba... 

„gavrilovis krizisi” mTel 

giorgi abaSiZe 

qveyanas da, Sesabamisad, yvela 

yaidis politikur gunds Seexo, 

Tumca gansakuTrebuli dartymis qveS, „nacionaluri moZrao- 

bis msgavsad, „gamarjvebuli saqarTveloc” aRmoCnda _ garda 

imisa, rom am axali politikuri moZraobis erT-erT damfuZnebel 

irakli oqruaSvilTan gamoZiebas 20-21 ivnisis mov- 

lenebze kiTxvebi aqvs, ramdenime dRis win Tavdacvis yofili 

ministris uaxloesi megobari da dacvis wevri daiWires. sa- 

marTaldamcvelebi oqruaSvilis Tanagundels iaraRis 

ukanono Senaxvas edavebian, Tumca „gamarjvebul saqarTvelo- 

Si” yvelafer amas politikur represiebad afaseben. am 

moZraobis erT-erTi lideri valeri gelbaxiani ki ambobs, 

rom „ocnebam” SevardnaZisa da saakaSvilis mTavrobebis kliSe 

moirgo da reJimad Camoyalibda. 

amas garda, „qronika+~-sTan 

saubrisas gamocdili politiko- 

si da advokati strasburgis sasa- 

marTlos 18 ivlisis gadawyve- 

tilebasac afasebs da pirdapir 

ambobs, rom qveynis dasavluri 

ideologia safrTxis qveS dgas. 

amitomac valeri gelbaxiani imis 

albaTobasac uSvebs, rom dRis 

wesrigSi SesaZloa, axali erovnu- 

li moZraobis dawyeba dadges. 

_ batono valeri, Tqveni amJa- 

mindeli politikuri gundi _ 

„gamarjvebuli saqarTvelo” _ 

dartymis qveSaa, anu gamodis, rom 

mSvidi cxovreba arc erTi xe- 

lisuflebis dros ar giweriaT. 

_ aseTi bedi gvaqvs: sadac 

davdgebiT, iq yvela ubedureba _ 

qariSxali, taifuni iwyeba! 

_ anu problema TqvenSia Tu 

xelisuflebebSi? 

_ problema rom xelisufleba- 

Sia, es kiTxvis niSnebs ar iwvevs, 

magram, rogorc Cans, Cvenc raRac 

dagvyveba da gamolocva gvWirdeba! 

_ xumroba iqiT iyos da, bolodroindel 

movlenebze Tqveni Se- 

faseba rogoria? 

_ Cvenc zustad igive Sefasebebi 

gvaqvs, oRond garkveuli dazustebiT, 

rac TiTqmis yvela opoziciur 

Zalas. saqme isaa, rom warsulsa 

da Tanamedroveobis pirdapir 

Sefasebas ar vaxdenT, anu „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” aspeqtebiT 

ar vsaubrobT, magram ukeTesi saqarTvelo 

gvinda da Cvens mosazrebebs 

am mimarTulebiT gamovTqvamT, 

magram es mosazrebebi isea 

gagebuli, rogorc „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” tandemi, anu Tu dRes 

saqarTveloSi simarTles ityvi, e. 

i., „nacionaluri moZraoba” xar. 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, mmarTveli partiidan 

da Tavad batoni ivaniSvilisganac, 

eWvi ar SegeparoT, ase fasdeba. 

maTTvis simarTles „nacmo- 

Zraoba” hqvia, magram es ase ar aris. 

mokled, problema xelisuflebaSia 

da misi narativi im realobas 

ar warmoadgens, rac am qveyanaSi 

arsebobs. 

_ ki batono, asea, magram me e. 

w. gavrilovis krizisis Sefaseba 

gTxoveT, anu „ocnebas” viTareb- 

is aseTi dramatizeba awyobda Tu 

misdauneburad raRac provokaci- 

ul ankess wamoego? 

_ modiT, ase vTqvaT: xelisuflebaSi 

yofna aqlemis sapalnea 

da nuravis hgonia, es iolia. zogjer 

movlenebi ise viTardeba, rom 

xelisuflebis nebaze araferia damokidebuli. 

amitom xelisufleba- 

Si da, zogadad, politikaSi yofna 

maRal pasuxismgeblobas mxolod 

formaluri ki ara, cnobieri 

TvalsazrisiTac niSnavs, anu xeli- 

suflebaSi rom modixar, amisTvis 

mzad unda iyo, amasTan, naswavlic 

unda iyo, gamocdileba gqondes da 

isic unda gesmodes, saxelmwifos 

rogori maRali Sinaarsi aqvs. 

xelisuflebaSi ucodinari adamianebi 

movidnen da mxolod is 

gaacnobieres, rom mTavari marto 

skamia, danarCens ki mniSvneloba ar 

aqvs. ai, swored es iyo imis pirveli 

niSani, rom qveyanaSi movlenebi 

arapozitiurad ganviTardeboda 

da is, rac 20 ivniss moxda, amis 

praqtikuli magaliTia. 

saerTod, cnobilia e. w. balansis 

Teoria, romlis mixedviTac 

balansi arc qveynis SigniT unda 

dairRves da arc _ gareT. 

ruseTTan balansze saubari 

zedmetia imitom, rom diplomatiuri 

urTierToba gawyvetili gvaqvs, 

magram geopolitikur sivrce- 

Si da, maT Soris, kavkasiaSic ruseTs 

Tavisi garkveuli amocanebi 

aqvs. amitom saqarTvelo da CrdiloeT 

kavkasia misTvis Tanabari 

mniSvnelobis teritoriaa. SeiZleba, 

vinmes hgonia, rom ruseTis kavkasiuri 

politika saqarTvelos 

gareSe warmatebas miaRwevs, magram 

amaze saubari sisulelea. 

mokled, kavkasiaSi mimdinare 

movlenebi kremlisTvis sul erTi 

ar aris da, miT umetes, Tu saqarTvelo 

ruseTs saerTod gaemijna, 

es misi pirdapiri CamoSlis ma- 

Cvenebeli iqneba. yovel SemTxveva- 

Si, samxreTi kavkasia ruseTis iuridiul 

sivrces mTlianad mowydeba. 

_ es realuria? 

_ diax, ruseTisTvis es safrTxe 

arsebobs, amitom rusuli faqtori 

saqarTvelos saxelmwifos ganvi- 

TarebaSi erT-erTi gavleniani 

yovelTvis iqneba. 

_ Cvens ganviTarebaSi dasavle- 

Tis faqtoric xom mniSvnelova- 

nia? 

_ ra Tqma unda. es mxolod 

dasavluri idealebi ar aris, anu 

pirdapir gacxadebulia, rom vidre 

religiuri saxelmwifos mSeneblobis 

gzas adgas, irani mTeli samyarosTvis 

safrTxes warmoadgens. 

aqedan gamomdinare, aSS, anu msoflios 

anglosaqsuri sistema yovelTvis 

imaze iqneba orientirebuli, 

rom irani da, zogadad, muslimuri 

samyaro, romelic agresiis 

matarebelia, gaaneitralos. saamisod 

ki mas dasayrdeni partniorebi 

sWirdeba. es partniori, Turqe- 

Tis saxiT, aRar arsebobs. 

_ ratom? 

_ ukve aris muqarebi, rom TurqeTi 

natodan gamova, ufro sworad, 

garicxaven. amis gamo Savi zRvis 

auzis akvatoriaSi amerikuli samxedro 

teqnikis Semoyvanis, ase vTq- 

valeri gelbaxiani: 

ìvaniSvils 

mrCevlad viRac 

ebraeli hyolia 

da es ebraeli 

virisTavi 

dalagebul 

qveyanaSi 

areulobas 

iwyebs!~ 

vaT, safrTxe arsebobs, Tumca konvenciiT, 

amerikulma gemebma Savi 

zRvis akvatoriaSi gadaadgilebis 

ufleba rom miiRon, natos sami 

wevris Tanxmobaa saWiro. Tu natodan 

TurqeTi gava, amerikelebs 

rumineTi da bulgareTi aRar eyofaT, 

rom Savi zRvis akvatoriaze 

es kontroli aiRon, amitom maT garantirebulad 

sxva, anu sarezervo 

qveyana sWirdebaT. mokled, imis 

Tqma minda, rom geopolitikuri 

TvalsazrisiT amerikuli interesic 

Zalian maRalia. Sesabamisad, 

xelisuflebis neba Tavisufali ki 

ara, aTasi dinebiT aris SeboWili. 

_ SeiZleba, magram ver vxvdebi, 

yvelafer amas 20 ivnisis movle- 

nebTan ra Semxebloba aqvs? 

_ 20 ivnisi am dinebebis gauTvleli 

nawili iyo. gavrilovis 

saqarTveloSi Camosvlis ideis avtorad 

zaqaria qucnaSvili dasaxelda. 

SeiZleba, zaqariasi bevri 

raRac ar momwons, magram, am SemTxvevaSi, 

is msxverplia! 

_ amas ris safuZvelze ambobT, 

batono valeri? 

_ agixsniT: sanam parlamentSi 

viyavi, marTlmadidebluri qveynebis 

saparlamento delegaciebi 

erTmaneTs yovel wels xvdebodnen 

da sxvadasxva qveyanaSi sesiebic 

tardeboda, anu es axali ambavi ar 

àmaT marto ruseTTan Sedegi gaTvales, imaze 

ki aRar ifiqres, yvelafer amas qarTveli xalxi 

rogor miiRebda. ai, am ucodinarobam da 

politikurma siSlegem kinaRam saxelmwifo 

Camoamxo! am Secdomas òcneba~ calybad 

aRiarebs, magram calybad aRiareba sakmarisi ar 

aris, radgan es mZime Secdoma iyo! am mZime 

Secdomaze pasuxismgebloba marto erTis 

gadadgoma da danarCeni 200 adamianis daWera 

ar aris. yvelaferi es cecxlze navTis dasxmas 

ufro hgavs, vidre balansisa da proporciis 

SenarCunebas~ 

aris da yvela deputatma, vinc am 

sesiaze yofila, icis, rom es asamblea 

yovel wels imarTeba. sxva- 

Ta Soris, piradad me am asambleas 

maSin daveswari, roca saberZneTSi 

Catarda, magram iq parlamentis SenobaSi 

ar gamarTula. 

mokled, imis Tqma minda, rom 

saqarTvelos parlamentis Senoba- 

Si am asambleis gamarTva pompezurobis 

nawili iyo. saqarTvelo 

valdebuli gaxldaT, rom am sesiis 

Casatareblad yvela piroba Seeqmna. 

zogadad, am asambleaze gadawyvetilebebs 

ar iReben da, ubralod, 

qristianul saxelmwifoTa 

Soris kavSiris ganmtkicebas emsaxureba, 

anu uflebamosileba ar 

aqvs, magram iciT, axla ra moxda? 

_ ra? 

_ saqarTvelos am asambleis 

maspinZloba uwevda. Sesabamisad, 

viRacebma da, am SemTxvevaSi, 

mTavrobam moindoma, rom ruseTis 

guli moego da es, ra Tqma unda, 

ivaniSvilis Tanxmobis gareSe ar 

moxdeboda. 

_ „gulis mogebaSi” ras gulisx- 

mobT, batono valeri? 

_ albaT, imis xazgasma undodaT, 

ai, Cven mtrebi ar varT da, miuxedavad 

imisa, rom qveyana okupirebulia 

da saelCoebi aRar muSaoben, 

nabijs mainc gadavdgamT da Tqvens 

delegacias, roca sesia parlamentSi 

Catardeba, spikerobas mivcem- 

To. 

_ Tqveni azriT, es piradad 

ivaniSvilis idea iyo? 

_ diax, aravin malavs da verc 

damalavs, rom es qarTuli mxaris 

idea iyo. 

_ qarTuli mxare farTo 

cnebaa, amitom CagekiTxebiT: idea 

visgan modioda, ivaniSvilisgan? 

_ yvelaferi es SeTanxmebuli 

iyo. aqedan gamomdinare, saqme er- 

Toblivad ganxorcielda. ubralod, 

qucnaSvili Semsrulebeli iyo 

da meti araferi! Sesabamisad, joxic 

masze gadatyda. 

_ saintereso versiaa, Tumca 

weRan globalur politikaze 

saubrobdiT. aqedan gamomdinare, 

gamoricxavT, rom e. w. gavrilov- 

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gamolocva gvWirdeba!~ 

is krizisi ucxo qveynebis spec- 

samsaxurebs daegegmaT? 

_ gamoricxviT arafers gamovricxav, 

magram specsamsaxurebis 

kuTxiT mtkicebulebebi ar gvaqvs. 

SeiZleba, raRacas wamoegnen. amitomac 

vambob, politikas codna unda-meTqi. 

yvelaferi unda gadamowmebuliyo 

da gaazrebuliyo, ras ra 

mohyveboda: xalxis reaqcia rogori 

iqneboda, ra Sedegi dadgeboda 

da a. S. amaT marto ruseTTan 

Sedegi gaTvales, imaze ki aRar ifiqres, 

yvelafer amas qarTveli 

xalxi rogor miiRebda. 

ai, am ucodinarobam da politikurma 

siSlegem kinaRam saxelmwifo 

Camoamxo! am Secdomas „ocneba” 

calybad aRiarebs, magram calybad 

aRiareba sakmarisi ar aris, 

radgan es mZime Secdoma iyo! am 

mZime Secdomaze pasuxismgebloba 

marto erTis gadadgoma da danar- 

Ceni 200 adamianis daWera ar aris. 

yvelaferi es cecxlze navTis 

dasxmas ufro hgavs, vidre balansisa 

da proporciis SenarCunebas. 

_ saboloo jamSi, am movlenebiT 

saqarTvelo evroatlan- 

tikur sivrces dascilda? 

_ faruli ar aris, rom saqar- 

Tvelos xelisuflebas ruseTis 

xelisuflebasTan tandemi aqvs da 

am wuTas erT mizans emsaxurebian. 

aliansis jgufi amas yovelTvis ase 

aRiqvamda, magram bolo dros „ocnebam” 

ormagi bunebis niRabi Camoixsna 

da ukve naTelia, rom rusuli 

interesis gatarebas cdilobs. 

_ rusuli interesebis gatare- 

ba raSi gamoixateba? 

_ ai, magaliTad, rusebma Tqves, 

es xalxi dasajeTo da xom sjian? 

_ ki batono, sjian. rusebma isic 

Tqves, eg „rusTavi 2" CaaxSeTo da 

gvaramia xom moxsnes? 

_ gvaramias moxsna evrosasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebis Sede- 

gia, batono valeri. 

_ moicaT, ra! zRaprebs Tavi 

davaneboT! evrosasamarTlo ruseTisgan 

viTom Sors aris. 

_ anu imas ambobT, rom evro- 

sasamarTloSi rusuli gavlenebi 

Zlieria? 

_ xmamaRla arafers vityvi, magram 

evrosasamarTlos gadawyvetileba 

waikiTxeT _ rac mTeli istoriis 

ganmavlobaSi ar gaukeTebia, 

am gadawyvetilebiT is gaake- 

Ta! 

_ erTi sityviT, evropaze da, 

zogadad, mTel msoflioze ruse- 

Tis gavlena iseTi didia, rom kre- 

mli yvelas Tavis Wkuaze atrial- 

ebs da Tu asea, maSin, Cven, patara 

qveyana, ruseTs rogor gavum- 

klavdebiT? 

_ win jer kidev didi palataa 

da vnaxoT, rogor gadawyvetilebas 

miiRebs. 

asea Tu ise, am interesebis garda, 

sxva bevrma faqtormac imuSava. 

ai, magaliTad, wulukians wamoscda, 

evrosasamarTloSi 400 gverdamde 

dokumentebi gavagzavneTo. 

mokled, kiTxvebi arsebobs da 

piradad mec, romelic am saqmeSi 

davberdi, mainteresebs: rodesac 

mosamarTleTa acilebis sakiTxi 

dgeba da imis rezervi arsebobs, 

rom igive saqmeze samarTalwarmoeba 

sxva jgufma ganaxorcielos da 

aseT dros evrosasamarTlo ambobs, 

araferi darRveulao, amas 

ra unda davarqvaT? 

_ ise, zogi ar gamoricxavs, rom 

movlenebis am scenariT ganvi- 

`zogadad, sasamarTloebi kiTxvebs yovelTvis iwveven da zogjer 

moTxovnebsac ver pasuxoben. mokled, rogor davijero, rom yvelafer amas 

evrosasamarTlom ise Sexeda, rogorc or pirs Soris qonebriv davas? amis 

dajereba Zalian Znelia, miT umetes, roca mTeli msoflio saqmis kursSia, 

rom politikuri ideologiebis brZolazea laparaki da ara - erT 

romelime konkretul televiziaze~ 

Tareba Tavad „rusTavi 2-is” interesSic 

Sedioda da evrosasa- 

marTloSi sarCelis uzrunvely- 

ofis moTxovnis Setana amitomac 

daagviana. 

_ ar vici, ra daagviana, sarCelsac 

ar vicnob, magram rom daegvianebina, 

maSin sarCels ar ganixilavdnen. 

radgan sarCeli ar wamikiTxavs, 

amitom verafers davaskvni da mxolod 

varaudi SemiZlia. zogadad, 

sasamarTloebi kiTxvebs yovelTvis 

iwveven da zogjer moTxovnebsac 

ver pasuxoben. mokled, rogor 

davijero, rom yvelafer amas evrosasamarTlom 

ise Sexeda, rogorc 

or pirs Soris qonebriv davas? 

amis dajereba Zalian Znelia, miT 

umetes, roca mTeli msoflio saqmis 

kursSia, rom politikuri ideologiebis 

brZolazea laparaki da 

ara _ erT romelime konkretul 

televiziaze. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” xalvaSis xel- 

Si gadasvla, Tqveni azriT, qarT- 

ul politikur garemos rogor 

Secvlis? 

_ politikaSi ideologia Seicvleba. 

„rusTavi 2" prodasavluri 

ideologiis flagmani iyo da amaze 

dava aravin daiwyos. es erTader- 

Ti televizia iyo, romelic politikur 

dRis wesrigs qmnida da sxva 

televiziebic iZulebuli iyvnen, 

is movlenebi gaeSuqebinaT, romelsac 

„rusTavi 2" aSuqebda. 

Tu am flagmanobas televizia 

veRar ikisrebs, arc erTi movlena 

aRar gaSuqdeba da yvelaferi Cabneldeba! 

amasTan, rogorc aRvniSne, es 

televizia prodasavluri idealebis 

rupori iyo. dRes sxva romeli 

arxia ise politizebuli, rom am 

ideologiis medroSe iyos? _ arc 

erTi! 

aqedan gamomdinare, qveyanaSi 

iseTi dRis wesrigi iqneba, rogoric 

mTavrobas endomeba da amiT 

„rusTavi 2" ki ara, prodasavluri 

ideologia mokvdeba! sxvaTa Soris, 

es konstituciiT gacxadebuli 

ideologiaa. 

`politikaSi ideologia Seicvleba. "rusTavi 2" 

prodasavluri ideologiis flagmani iyo da 

amaze dava aravin daiwyos. es erTaderTi 

televizia iyo, romelic politikur dRis 

wesrigs qmnida da sxva televiziebic iZulebuli 

iyvnen, is movlenebi gaeSuqebinaT, romelsac 

"rusTavi 2" aSuqebda. Tu am flagmanobas 

televizia veRar ikisrebs, arc erTi movlena 

aRar gaSuqdeba da yvelaferi Cabneldeba!~ 

_ batono valeri, viTarebis 

dramatizebas xom ar vaxdenT? 

bolos da bolos, 21-e saukunea, 

cifruli mauwyebloba arsebobs 

da „rusTavi 2-is” gunds, minimum, 

is SeuZlia, rom internettelevi- 

zia gaakeTos da prodasavluri 

ideebis lobireba ase moaxdinos. 

_ Cemo kargo, televiziaSi 

Tqvenc muSaobdiT, magram axla 

telefoniT ratom ar akeTebT? 

arada, Tqveni erTi gadacema imas 

niSnavda, rom konkretul Temaze, 

minimum, erT kviras emsjelaT. 

dRes ki am funqciis matarebeli 

veRar xarT imitom, rom jer erTi, 

televiziis mier sakuTari sivrcis 

mopoveba wlebis ambavia, anu Sei- 

Zleba, didi fuli gqondes, magram 

Tu marTali ar xar, auditorias 

ver moipoveb. mokled, nebismier 

mZlavr finansur jgufs aTi weli 

mainc sWirdeba, rom kargi televizia 

Seqmnas. 

_ anu Tu ukve rusul sivrceSi 

varT, brZolas azri mainc aqvs? 

_ brZolas azri yovelTvis aqvs. 

ubralod, ruseTis moTxovnebis 

sanacvlod raRacebis daTmoba moxda 

da am daTmobis safasuri, albaT, 

aviareisebis aRdgena iqneba. 

_ batono valeri, amdeni welia, 

gicnobT, magram aseTi pesimisti 

arasodes momCvenebixarT. e. i., 

Cveni saqme Zalian cudad aris? 

_ ara! saqarTvelo erovnul 

idealebs ase iolad ar moinelebs! 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, piradad me Cems 

brZolas gavagrZeleb da im adamianebis 

gverdiT viqnebi, romlebsac 

es qveyana iaffasian saspekulacio 

sagnad ar miaCniaT, magram kargi 

iqneboda, xelisuflebaSi erTi 

mainc aRmoCeniliyo iseTi, vinc 

saqarTvelos saspekulacio sagnad 

da piradi gamdidrebis wyarod ar 

miiCnevda. 

_ am fonze imis saWiroebas xom 

ar xedavT, rom axali erovnuli 

moZraoba daiwyos? 

_ sxvaTa Soris, ori dRea 

vfiqrob, Secdoma xom ar iyo, samioTxi 

rom SevikribeT-meTqi? 

_ „gamarjvebul saqarTvelos” 

gulisxmobT? 

_ diax... me Tanamdebobas namd- 

vilad ar veZeb _ asakic iseTi 

maqvs, rom es araTavsebadia, magram 

ideebisTvis, ra Tqma unda, bolo 

energiis daxarjva SemiZlia. dRes 

Cven kvlav ganmaTavisuflebeli 

ideebis winaSe davdeqiT. roca axalgazrda 

viyavi, maSin ar davfiqrebulvar 

da axla ratom davfiqrdebi?! 

_ am brZolaSi opozicia er- 

Tiani iqneba, batono valeri? 

_ ar vici. zogadad, opoziciam 

cota sxvanairi gageba miiRo da 

amitom kargi iqneba, Tu sityva „opozicias” 

SevcvliT da vityviT, 

rom yvelani saqarTvelos mxares 

da erTad varT. 

ise, Tu qveynis Rirebulebebs me 

ufro vicav, opozicia me ratom 

var? aseT SemTxvevaSi, opozicia 

xelisufleba gamodis! 

mokled, sityva „opozicia” sazogadoebis 

TvalSi gacvda da mxolod 

„nacionaluri moZraobaa” warmodgenili. 

iseTi opozicia ar minda, 

sadac mxolod „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” iqneba warmodgenili. 

_ erovnuli interesebis 

dacvis sadarajoze flagmanis 

rols „gamarjvebuli saqarTve- 

lo” ver Seasrulebs? 

_ merkanteloba rom ar muSaobdes, 

anu yvela partias rom ar miaCndes, 

gamosavali CemSiao, ra Tqma 

unda, SeiZleba, rom yvelani erTi 

qolgis qveS viyoT. 

Cven ufulo xalxi varT, arc 

televizia gvaqvs da erTi gauremontebeli 

ofisis meti araferi 

gagvaCnia, magram xalxis Tanadgomis 

imedi Tavidanve gvqonda da 

roca SevikribeT, vTqviT, beladomania 

ar gvinda da Cveni beladi 

Cveni qveyana iyoso. 

ai, amosavali wertili es aris. 

jer axali Seqmnilebi varT da 

nabijebi ar gadagvidgams, magram 

movlenebis ganviTarebas velodebiT, 

radgan is, risi gakeTebac gvinda, 

marto an sxvebTan erTad gavakeToT! 

_ bolos, batono valeri, 

oqruaSvilis dacvis wevris daW- 

eraze gkiTxavT: amas represiebad 

miiCnevT? 

_ ra Tqma unda da amaze gancxadebac 

gavakeTeT. sxvaTa Soris, 

„qarTulma ocnebam” Tavis Tavs is 

Sabloni mouZebna, romelic SevardnaZis 

drosac arsebobda da 

saakaSvilis drosac. 

_ ras gulisxmobT? 

_ am xelisuflebas imis niSani 

ar hqonda, rom politikuri devna 

daewyo, magram es Sabloni moirgo 

da ukve politikuri reJimi gaxda. 

reJimis damaxasiaTebeli ki politikuri 

devna, represiebi da kudianebze 

nadirobaa! 

„ocneba” erTi-erTSi imas imeorebs, 

rasac SevardnaZis xelisuflebas 

da „nacionalur moZraobas” 

vedavebodiT, magram am daSinebebiT 

Sedegi verc erT reJims 

ver miuRia. 

ivaniSvils mrCevlad viRac ebraeli 

hyolia Camoyvanili da etyoba, 

yvelafer amas is urCevs, magram 

is urCios, israelSi simSvide romaa 

da daWerebi ar aris. es ebraeli 

virisTavi dalagebul qveyana- 

Si areulobas iwyebs! moaSoros 

aqedan! 

_ e. i., yvelaferSi moSea dam- 

naSave? 

_ albaT, rac eg Camovida, yvelaferi 

mas Semdeg daiwyo da aba, 

sxva vis davabraloT?! 

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`ruseTs saqarTvelos 

bolo erTi Tvea, saqarTvelo 


eqstremalur viTarebaSi cxovrobs. 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, gavrilovis 

vizitisa da 20 ivnisis mitingis darbevis Semdeg mov- 

lenebi elviseburad viTardeba. SesaZloa, zogs SeTqmulebis 

Teoria hgonia, magram es politikuri speqtaklebi aSkarad ru- 

sul scenars hgavs. sxvaTa Soris, ruseTis faqtors arc kav- 

kasiis sakiTxebis eqsperti mamuka areSiZe gamoricxavs, romel- 

ic Riad ambobs, rom kremls Cvens qveyanaSi areulobasa da 

sakuTari gavlenis gaZlierebaze metad, dasustebuli saq- 

arTvelo sWirdeba. sxvaTa Soris, mamuka areSiZe, sxva kolegebTan 

erTad, im daxurul Sexvedraze imyofeboda, romelzedac 

Ss ministrma usafrTxoebis sakiTxebze momuSave adami- 

anebs 20-21 ivnisis movlenebis detalebi gaacno. 

„qronika+~-mac saubari am Tem- 

iT daiwyo da, cxadia, respondents 

hkiTxa, gaxariasTan audienci- 

iT darwmunda Tu ara, rom 20-21 

ivniss qveyana saxelmwifo gada- 

trialebas realurad gadaurCa? 

_ batono mamuka, bolo erTi 

Tvea, monasteri Zalian areulia. 

yvelaferi ki gavrilovis vizitiT 

daiwyo, rasac parlamentis win an- 

tisaokupacio aqcia da am aqciis 

daSla moyva. mogvianebiT, am Te- 

maze eqspertebi, maT Soris, 

Tqvenc, Ss ministrs SexvdiT, Tum- 

ca vidre Sexvedris detalebze 

gadavalT, yvelafer imas, rac 

xdeba, rogor afasebT? sxvaTa 

Soris, gavrilovis krizisamde 

minidaZabuloba pankissa da dav- 

iTgarejaSi iyo, anu yvelaferi es 

erTi jaWvia? 

_ diax, yvelaferi kavSirSia. saerTod, 

mTeli is procesebi, romelic 

bolo Tveebis ganmavlobaSi 

saqarTvelosa da saqarTvelosTan 

dakavSirebiT viTardeba, piradad 

me erTmaneTTan garkveul bmaSi me- 

Cveneba, miuxedavad imisa, rom zogierT 

SemTxvevaSi logikuri kav- 

Siri SesaZloa, arc Candes. 

20 aprilis cnobili incidenti 

pankisSi Svilmkvdari mamebis aqciisa 

da mTavrobaze Setevis fonze 

moxda, rasac gareji moyva. paralelurad, 

Svilmkvdari mamebis Temac 

SenarCunebuli iyo, maCalikaSvilis 

TvalsazrisiT. yvelafer amas 

ki gavrilovis vizitTan dakavSirebuli 

movlenebi moyva. weRandeli 

Tqmisa ar iyos, am movlenebs Soris 

SesaZloa, pirdapiri kavSiri ar arsebobdes, 

magram mimaCnia, rom vi- 

Racis uxilavma xelma yvelaferi 

movlenebis ganviTarebis erT ja- 

WvSi moaqcia da vTvli, rom es procesebi 

saqarTvelos teritoriidan 

ar imarTeboda. 

Tu geopolitikur viTarebas 

gadavxedavT, mivxvdebiT, rom analogiuri 

raRacebi mxolod Cven- 

Tan ar xdeboda. yovel SemTxveva- 

Si, kavkasiis regionSi aseTi movlenebi 

erTmaneTis miyolebiT moxda. 

_ Tu saqarTvelodan ara, maSin 

Cndeba logikuri kiTxva: es movlenebi 

saidan imarTeba _ Crdil- 

oeTidan Tu dasavleTidan? 

_ Cven miCveulebi varT, rom 

saqarTveloSi movlenebis uaryofiTi 

ganviTareba xSirad ruse- 

Tis interesebSi Sedis da es varianti, 

rasakvirvelia, yvelaze sworia, 

magram sxva variantsac ar gamovricxav. 

_ e. i., dasavleTs an aSS-s? 

_ dasavleTs ise ver aviRebT, 

rogorc konkretul qveyanas, Tumca 

garkveuli politikuri Zalebi 

SeiZleba, dasavleTidanac vigulisxmoT 

da samxreTidanac. 

_ gasagebia, ruseTs ra mizanic 

aqvs _ okupantia da cdilobs, rom 

Tavisi klanWebidan ar gagviSvas, 

magram dasavleTis an samxreTis 

garkveuli politikuri Zalebi 

raRas gverCian? 

_ samxreT kavkasiaSi sxvadasxva 

Zalis centrs Soris _ briuseli 

iqneba, vaSingtoni, moskovi, stamboli 

Tu Teirani _ gavlenebisTvis 

uxilavi brZola mimdinareobs. sxva 

aqtorebis CarTulobaze aRarafers 

vambob, Tumca arabuli organizaciebi 

Tu israelis Sesabamisi 

samsaxurebis TanamSromlebic 

aqa-iq gakrTebian xolme. zogadad, 

es gasakviri ki ara, piriqiT, absoluturad 

logikuricaa, miT umetes, 

imis fonze, ra brZolebic 

cota xnis win kaspiisa da Sav zRvasTan 

dakavSirebiT mimdinareobda. 

amas garda, ar unda dagvaviwydes, 

rom axlo aRmosavleTis gasaRebis 

morgebas yvela cdilobs, 

maT Soris, Cveni ori mezobeli _ 

TurqeTi da ruseTi. maTi interesebi 

erTmaneTs xan emTxveva, xan ki 

_ ara. am saqmeSi mesame mezobeli _ 

iranic Zalian aqtiuria. 

_ e. i., batono mamuka, saqme 

imaze rTulad aris, vidre, vTq- 

vaT, saxelmwifo gadatrialebaa, 

romelzedac 

xelisufleba 

saubrobs? 

_ rasakvirvelia. saxelmwifo 

gadatrialebis mcdeloba mTel am 

procesSi, ase vTqvaT, mxolod 

erTi fragmentia. es saqme ase martivad 

ar damTavrdeba da sakuTari 

TvaliT naxavT, rom saqarTvelosTvis 

daZabuloba, minimum, Semodgomis 

CaTvliT gagrZeldeba. 

_ eqspertebma Ss ministrTan 

20-21 ivnisis movlenebi am glo- 

balur konteqstSi ganixileT Tu 

Tqveni saubris Tema konkretuli 

mitingis darbevas ar gascilebia? 

_ Ss ministrTan am Temebze ar 

gvisaubria. Cven, ZiriTadad, im 

movlenebTan dakavSirebul kiTxvebs 

vsvamdiT. es sul saaT-naxevriani 

Tu orsaaTiani Sexvedra 

iyo da sxva Temebze saubris saSualeba 

arc gvqonia, Tan gavrilovis 

vizitsa da Semdeg ganviTarebul 

movlenebze kiTxvebis farTo 

speqtri iyo. 

_ Cemi informaciiT, am Sex- 

vedris iniciatori Tavad gaxaria 

iyo. batono mamuka, Ss ministrma 

maincdamainc eqspertebTan Sexve- 

dra ratom gadawyvita? 

_ saintereso kiTxvaa, romelzec, 

simarTle giTxraT, pasuxi ar 

maqvs. SeiZleba, Sexvedra, vTqvaT, 

erTi politikuri gemovnebis eqspertebTan 

yofiliyo, magram cota 

bundovania, roca sxvadasxva politikuri 

gemovnebis eqspertebs xvdebi, 

Tan iTxov, rom Sexvedris Sefasebebi 

delikaturi iyos. darwmunebuli 

var, iq myof zogierT 

pirovnebas delikaturobis dacva 

namdvilad gauWirdeboda da, sxva- 

Ta Soris, asec moxda. mokled, sxvadasxva 

politikuri gemovnebis 

eqspertTan Sexvedris amocana Cem- 

Tvis cota gaugebari iyo, Tumca, 

saboloo jamSi, es Sexvedra imas 

emsaxureboda, rom usafrTxoebis 

sakiTxebze momuSave eqspertebi 

saqmis kursSi yofiliyvnen, im 

dRes, realurad, ra moxda da amasTan, 

gamoZieba rogor mimdinareobs. 

_ im informaciiT, rac Ss min- 

istrma mogawodaT, piradad Tqven 

darwmundiT, rom saxelmwifo ga- 

datrialeba igegmeboda? 

_ me erT rameSi davrwmundi: 

parlamentis SenobaSi Zalismieri 

SeWra igegmeboda, magram ara egzaltirebuli 

axalgazrdebis, rogorc 

„nacionaluri moZraoba” da 

aseve zogierTi opoziciuri partia 

cdilobs, rom SemogvTavazos, 

aramed organizebuli jgufebis 

mier. 

_ davuSvaT, organizebuli 

jgufebi parlamentSi SeWras mar- 

Tla cdilobdnen, magram amiT ra 

daSavdeboda? „vardebis revol- 

uciisgan” gansxvavebiT, 20 ivniss 

parlamentSi sxdoma ar tardebo- 

da, Sesabamisad, iq Sesvlas ra 

mohyveboda? 

_ yvelafers logikurad SevxedoT: 

ra problemebi SeiZleboda 

gamoewvia mixeil saakaSvilis iq 

Sevardnas, rom ar yofiliyo, erTi 

mxriv, zogierTi Zalovani struqturis 

Ralati da, meore mxriv, SevardnaZe 

darbazidan rom ar 

gasuliyo? 

_ im SemTxvevaSi, Tu SevardnaZ- 

es dacva sxdomaTa darbazidan ar 

gaiyvanda, SesaZloa, fizikuri 

dapirispireba dawyebuliyo. 

_ diax, xelCarTuli Setakeba 

momxdariyo, magram, saboloo jam- 

Si, yvelaferi es saakaSvilisa da 

misi gundisTvis Zalis, aseve imis 

demonstrireba iqneboda, rom maT 

SeuZliaT, Sedegze orientirebuli 

radikaluri nabijebi gadadgan, 

anu sxvanairad rom vTqvaT, yvelaferi 

es imis demonstrireba 

iqneboda, rom Sno aqvT. 

_ SeiZleba, magram, batono ma- 

muka, erT garemoebas miaqcieT 

yuradReba: 2003 wlis 23 noembers 

parlamentSi sxdoma tardeboda, 

romelsac axali parlamentis uflebamosileba 

unda ecno. Sesabam- 

isad, darbazSi SeWra amitom iyo 

mniSvnelovani, magram 20 ivniss sa- 

kanonmdebo organoSi araferi 

imar 

arTeboda da iq SesvliT opozi- 

cia ras miaRwevda? 

_ warmoidgineT, Sesuliyvnen da 

parlamentis Senoba daekavebinaT. 

amis Semdeg, ramdenime xnis ganmavlobaSi, 

yuradRebis centrSi iqnebodnen 

da mTeli msoflio gaigeb- 

`sxvaTa Soris, pirveli 

kiTxvebi, romelic me 

davsvi, aseTi iyo: jer 

erTi, brZaneba vin gasca, 

- es sazogadoebas 

gansakuTrebiT 

aintersebs da, meore, - 

apirebs Tu ara gaxaria 

gadadgomas? orive 

kiTxvaze lakoniuri 

pasuxi iyo da Tqva, rom 

brZaneba man gasca da 

gadadgomas ar apirebs~ 

mamuka areSiZe: 

ès saqme 

martivad ar 

damTavrdeba 

da daZabuloba 

Semodgomis 

CaTvliT 

gagrZeldeba!~ 

da, saqarTvelos xelisufleba imdenad 

sustia, rom adamianebis 

jgufs SeuZlia, parlamentis Senoba 

Tavisuflad daikavoso. es ki 

imisken gadadgmuli erTi nabiji 

iqneboda, rom momavalSi xelisuflebis 

demontaJi momxdariyo. 

sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime wlis 

win analogiuri indoeTis parlamentSi 

moxda _ SenobaSi SeiWrnen, 

parlamentis sxdomaTa darbazi 

daikaves. marTalia, ori-sami saa- 

Tis Semdeg es xalxi darbazidan gamoiyvanes, 

magram amiT imis demonstrireba 

moxda, rom xelisufleba 

susti iyo da ori Tvis Semdeg 

indoeTis premieri da, saerTod, 

mTeli ministrTa kabineti Seicvala. 

_ mokled, msofliosTvis 

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis, min- 

imum, sisustis demonstrireba 

didi xnis ganmavlobaSi mzaddeboda 

da gavrilovis viziti, ubral- 

od, sababad gamoiyenes? 

_ rasakvirvelia. yvelaferi es 

ufro adre mzaddeboda da gavrilovis 

viziti sababi iyo, anu amiT 

SesaZloa, movlenebi daCqarda. isic 

SeiZleba, rom gavrilovis vizitis 

Taobaze amaTTvis cnobili 

iyo, magram mis Camosvlamde protests 

maincdamainc aqtiurad ar 

gamoTqvamdnen. 

_ wina dRes, gavrilovis saq- 

arTveloSi Camosvlis gamo, saprotesto 

aqcia prezidentis rezi- 

denciasTan gaimarTa. 

_ ki batono, magram iseTi protesti, 

rogoric mere gamoTqves, 

ar yofila. aqedan gamomdinare, 

gavrilovis viziti, SeiZleba, sababad 

ganixileboda, Tumca ver vityvi, 

rom yvelaferi, maincdamainc, 

gavrilovis vizitTan iyo misadagebuli. 

_ qarTulma specsamsaxurebma 

am scenaris Sesaxeb icodnen? _ es 

kiTxva Ss ministrisTvis xom ar 

dagisvamT, batono mamuka? 

_ diax, es kiTxva davsviT, magram 

es is Temaa, romelzedac saubrisgan 

delikaturad Sevikaveb Tavs. 

_ zemoxsenebul Sexvedraze aq- 

centebi arsebuli politikuri 

krizisidan gamosavalzec gakeTda? 

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dasusteba sWirdeba!~ 

_ rasakvirvelia. sxvaTa Soris, 

pirveli kiTxvebi, romelic me 

davsvi, aseTi iyo: jer erTi, brZaneba 

vin gasca, _ es sazogadoebas 

gansakuTrebiT aintersebs da, meore, 

_ apirebs Tu ara gaxaria 

gadadgomas? orive kiTxvaze lakoniuri 

pasuxi iyo da Tqva, rom br- 

Zaneba man gasca da gadadgomas ar 

apirebs. 

_ am pasuxebma dagakmayofi- 

laT? 

_ ara. sxvaTa Soris, gansaxvavebuli 

politikuri gemovnebis miuxedavad, 

am Sexvedraze Ss ministris 

imave dRes an xval gadadgomis 

moTxovna erT eqspertsac ar 

dauyenebia da es am Sexvedris 

Zalian saintereso epizodia. 

_ ratom? 

_ es moTxovna im eqspertebsac 

ar dauyenebiaT, romlebsac „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” mimarT, 

rbilad rom vTqva, simpaTia aqvT, 

Tumca imis Taobaze, Tu ra nabijebis 

gadadgmas apirebs ministri, 

kiTxvebi daisva. gaxariam Tqva, rom 

misi gadadgoma-argadadgoma problema 

ar aris, magram unda, rom im 

kiTxvebze, romelic sazogadoebas 

damnaSaveebsa da SemsruleblebTan 

dakavSirebiT, aseve Zalis gadametebasa 

Tu orive mxridan provokaciebis 

monawileebis gamovlenaze 

aqvs, pasuxi gaeces da im 

dRes momxdari saerTo suraTis 

aRdgena moxdes. amis Semdeg sazogadoebis 

gadasawyvetia, Tu Cems 

wasvlas isev moiTxovs, me wavalo, 

_ gviTxra ministrma. 

_ am Sexvedraze gaxariam Tu dauSva 

albaToba, rom mitingis da- 

Slisas damiznebiT srola cal- 

keuli Zalovnebis provokacia iyo? 

_ rasakvirvelia, laparaki 

amazec iyo, anu Zalis gadacdoma 

namdvilad moxda da gamoZiebis 

procesSi nel-nela vavlenT, yvelaferi 

es rogor viTardebodao. 

_ anu calkeuli specrazmelebi 

ase imitom iqceodnen, rom is Se- 

degi damdgariyo, romelic dadga? 

_ am versias arsebobis ufleba 

aqvs da amis Taobaze manamdec vlaparakobdi. 

amdagvari araerTi RonisZieba 

maqvs nanaxi, zogierTSi ki 

monawileobac mimiRia da amitom 

Zalian kargad vici, analogiuri 

RonisZiebebis organizeba rogor 

xdeba. „nacionaluri moZraoba” mudmivad 

ambobs, rom iq aRelvebuli 

da araorganizebuli axalgazrdebis 

masa iyo, romelmac protesti 

Tavisi nebiT gamoTqva. nawilobriv, 

rasakvirvelia, marTlac ase iyo _ 

parlamentTan, sanam Setakeba daiwyeboda, 

uamravi xalxi imyofeboda, 

maT Soris, Cemi Svilic, magram 

saqme isaa, rom am xalxis garda organizebuli 

Zalac iyo. 

_ amas ris safuZvelze ambobT? 

_ iseTi gaazrebuli qmedeba, 

rogoric policiis kordonze Setevaa, 

martivad ar xdeba. policielebi 

ga-oyavdaT da fizikur dapirispirebas 

aridebdnen _ yvelaferi 

es ki organizebuli jgufebis 

mier iyo gakeTebuli da amaSi 

darwmunebuli var. am jgufs, albaT, 

treningic hqonda gavlili. 

_ sad? 

_ treningi imas ar niSnavs, rom 

sadme banakSi waiyvano da ori kvira 

avarjiSo. magaliTad, SegiZlia, 

aT adamians sam saaTSi auxsna, ras 

niSnavs mitingSi monawileoba da am 

dros rogor unda moiqces. 

_ batono mamuka, simarTle 

`me erT rameSi davrwmundi: parlamentis SenobaSi Zalismieri SeWra 

igegmeboda, magram ara egzaltirebuli axalgazrdebis, rogorc 

`nacionaluri moZraoba~ da aseve zogierTi opoziciuri partia cdilobs, 

rom SemogvTavazos, aramed organizebuli jgufebis mier~ 

giTxraT, cota davibeni, anu Tu 

garkveuli jgufi datreningebu- 

li iyo, policielebis gamoyvana, 

rom maTze fizikuri Zaladoba ar 

momxdariyo, ras emsaxureboda? 

_ jer erTi, es policielebisTvis 

demonstrireba iyo, Tqveni 

sawinaaRmdego araferi gvaqvs da 

xelisuflebas verCiTo. meore mizani 

ki kordonis moSoreba iyo. 

_ ramdenjerme „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” axseneT, arada, 20 iv- 

niss aqciaze yvela opoziciuri 

partia imyofeboda. amas garda, 

„nacmoZraoba” 

gaerTianebuli 

opoziciis wevria. mokled, ma- 

incdamainc yofil mmarTvel gun- 

dze ratom svamT maxvils? 

_ Zalian kargi kiTxvaa! „nacionalur 

moZraobaze” aqcents imitom 

vakeTeb, rom es saqarTveloSi 

yvelaze kargad organizebuli 

partiaa, romelic analogiuri 

moqmedebebisTvis mzad aris, miT 

umetes, rom Sesabamisi gamocdileba 

aqvs. am partias aqtiuri jgufebic 

hyavs, romelsac analogiur 

situaciaSi iyenebs. 

_ davuSvaT, asea, magram ar 

dagaviwydeT, rom gavrilovis 

winaaRmdeg Tavdapirvelad „evro- 

pulma saqarTvelom” aimaRla xma 

da am mxriv gansakuTrebiT elene 

xoStaria aqtiurobda. 

_ SeiZleba, „evropuli saqar- 

Tvelo” Canda, magram „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” moqmedebda. 

_ isini SeTanxmebulebi iyvnen? 

_ amas ver getyviT, magram piradad 

me aseTi STabeWdileba Semeqmna, 

rom „evropuli saqarTvelo” 

Canda, „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

ki moqmedebda. sxvaTa Soris, miaqcieT 

yuradReba, Tu vin mouwoda 

xalxs parlamentSi Sesvlisken. 

_ vin? 

_ nika meliam. sxvebic iyvnen, 

magram roca melias mowodeba movismine, 

anu is ki ara, roca jgufurad 

laparakobdnen, SevideT-ar- 

SevideTo, aramed roca calke iyo, 

Semeqmna STabeWdileba, rom is Tavisi 

jgufis wevrebs mimarTavda, 

aba, wavediTo, anu is im xalxs mimarTavda, 

romelzec icoda, rom 

gahyveboda. 

_ Tu aseTi detalebi Tqven 

SeamCnieT, wesiT, es Sss-sac unda 

SeemCnia, amitom sainteresoa, man 

SeWris mcdeloba Tavidanve ra- 

tom ar aRkveTa da viTareba kul- 

minaciamde ratom miiyvana? 

_ rogorc Cans, am situaciis 

mosagerieblad mzad ar iyo. sxva- 

Ta Soris, ministrmac Tqva, maqsimalurad 

vcdilobdiT, winamorbedebs 

ar davmsgavsebodiTo. 

_ opoziciis liderebTan mo- 

laparakebas amitomac cdilobda? 

_ molaparakebasTan dakavSirebiT 

cota ucnauri suraTi Seiqmna 

da es is Temaa, romelic bolomde 

ver CamovayalibeT. amasTan, am Sexvedris 

erT-erTma monawilem 

ikiTxa, ise ratom moxda, rom premierma 

Tqva, araferi iqnebao da uceb 

cremlsadeni yumbarebi isroleso? 

amaze ministrma gvipasuxa, molaparakebis 

procesis dros Seteva 

gverdidan daiwyoo, magram es 

videokadrebi ar gvinaxavs da aqedan 

gamomdinare, SemiZlia, mxolod 

ministris sityvebs daveyrdno. 

_ ise, batono mamuka, 2012 wl- 

idan moyolebuli, saxelmwifo 

gadatrialebis sababiT sisxlis 

samarTlis arTlis saqme araerTxel aRi- 

Zra, magram gamoZieba bolomde ar 

misula da igive „saburavebis saq- 

me” Tarozea Semodebuli. aqedan 

gamomdinare, ratom unda gvje- 

rodes, rom 20 ivniss saxelmwifo 

gadatrialeba realurad igegme- 

boda an is, rac moxda swored 

gamouZiebeli saqmeebis Sedegia? 

_ rasakvirvelia, mec zustad 

mand var. sxvaTa Soris, im dRes, 

roca gavrilovi gamoCnda, erT-er- 

Ti pirveli viyavi, romelmac vTqvi, 

irakli kobaxiZe baqoSive unda 

gadadges-meTqi. ise, naxevari saaTiT 

adre am asambleis dRis wesrigi 

nanaxi mqonda da vicodi, rom gavrilovis 

ki ara, generaluri mdivnis 

gamosvla igegmeboda. saRamos 

ki, roca yvelaferi es moxda, anu 

mitingis darbevis mere, vTqvi, me 

rom gaxarias adgilas viyo, gadavdgebodi-meTqi. 

mas mere ki, rac 

gaxaria Junalistebs Sexvda, pozicia 

Sevicvale da amis ar mrcxvenia, 

anu mimaCnia, rom gaxariam, romelmac 

pasuxismgebloba yvelaferze 

Tavad aiRo, gamoZiebis saqme 

bolomde unda miiyvanos, sazogadoebis 

winaSe SedegebiT wardges 

da sazogadoeba Tavad gadawyvets, 

is gadadgomis Rirsia Tu ara. sxvaTa 

Soris, amis Sesaxeb gaxariasac 

vuTxari. 

mokled, saqarTveloSi uamravi 

rezonansuli saqmea, romelic 

xmauriT dawyebula da bolos, pasuxismgebeli 

an mTavroba yofila, 

an _ viRac Zalovnebi, romlebsac 

ver gaigebT, vin arian. Sesabamisad, 

ar viciT, am saqmeebze pasuxi vis 

movTxovoT. am SemTxvevaSi ki, piradad 

me, rogorc moqalaqem, vici, 

rom pasuxi giorgi gaxarias unda 

movTxovo! 

Tu gainteresebT, am Sexvedraze 

raze vidaveT, getyviT _ es vadebi 

iyo, anu erT-erTma Cvenganma gaxarias 

kategoriulad mosTxova, es 

gamoZieba daus-uleblad ar unda 

gagrZeldes da uaxloes momaval- 

Si unda damTavrdeso, magram ministrma, 

ar moeswrebao. amitom Cven, 

yvelam Zalian kategoriulad mov- 

TxoveT, CvenTan Sexvedras azri ma- 

Sin eqneba, Tu saboloo vada gvecodineba, 

rodesac gamoZiebas wertili 

Tu ar daesmeva, logikuri 

konturebi mainc gamoCndebao. da 

kidev erTi: sazogadoeba mudmivad 

unda iyos informirebuli, gamo- 

ZiebasTan dakavSirebiT ra xdeba _ 

SeiZleba, yvelaferi ver Tqvan, 

magram aucileblad unda Candes, 

procesi rogor midis. es gaiTvaliswines 

da imis fragmentebi, gamo- 

Zieba rogor mimdinareobs, Cndeba 

xolme. 

_ batono mamuka, sityva gagvi- 

grZelda, magram erT Temasac 

Sevexebi, miT umetes, rom specsam- 

saxurebis muSaobaSi, ase Tu ise, 

erkveviT: „gavrilovis Rames”, 

rogorc 20-21 ivnisis movlenebi 

moinaTla, giorgi gabunias skan- 

daluri eTeri moyva. SeiZleba, 

esec im scenaris nawili iyos, 

razec zemoT visaubreT? 

_ CemTvis Zalian seriozuli 

avtoritetia rusi politologi 

ilarionovi da am Temaze swored 

mis daskvnas daveyrdnobi. ilarionovma 

„amerikis xmas” Zalian mwvave 

inteviu misca, sadac xelisuflebac 

gaakritika da opoziciac. 

gansakuTrebiT ki gabunia gaakritika, 

Tumca am SemTxvevaSi, „gabunia” 

krebiTi terminia, anu ilarionovma 

Tqva, gavrilovi am savar- 

ZelSi, SesaZloa, SemTxveviT moxvda, 

magram „gabunia” specoperacia 

iyo, romelSic didi fuli daixarja 

da gabunia WanWiki iyoo. ilarionovma 

isic Tqva, ar vici, fuli 

vin aiRo, magram es specoperaciis 

klasikaa da usafrTxoebis Temaze 

Seqmnil saxelmZRvaneloebSi unda 

Sevideso. ilarionovma rusuli 

politikuri samzareulo Cemze 

ukeT icis da miniSneba iqiTken gaakeTa, 

rom gabunias ambavSi viRac 

iyo Careuli da amiT raRac TamaSi 

iTamaSes. es TamaSi ki ruseTis prezidents 

garkveuli demarSisTvis 

sWirdeboda. amiT putinma ramdenime 

kurdReli erTad mokla da 

marto keTili biZias roli ki ar 

iTamaSa, aramed, dumas Tavze daamxo, 

Seni azri aravis ainteresebso. 

zogadad, saqarTvelos sazogadoebis 

azri aravis ainteresebs da 

man „keTili biZias” roli dasavle- 

Tis winaSe iTamaSa, romelic SeSfoTebuli 

iyo, rom ruseTi saqar- 

Tvelos mimarT uaRresad negatiur 

nabijebs gadadgamda. amas aq 

myofi diplomatebi arc malavdnen 

da TavianTi qveynebidan Sesabamisi 

instruqciebic hqondaT miRebuli. 

_ bolos, batono mamuka, Tqve- 

ni azriT, qveyanaSi arsebuli po- 

litikuri krizisi rogor unda 

ganimuxtos? 

_ es politikuri krizisi jer 

ar ganimuxteba da gagrZeldeba, 

yovel SemTxvevaSi, Semodgomamde 

sxvadasxva tipisa da xarisxis daZabuloba 

iqneba, radgan Zalian seriozuli 

Zalebi arian dainteresebulni, 

rom samxreT kavkasiaSi, Sida 

politikis TvalsazrisiT, seriozuli 

sirTuleebi arsebobdes. 

amasTan, dRes ruseTs saqarTveloSi 

Tavisi gaZliereba ki ara, 

saqarTvelos dasusteba iseve sWirdeba, 

rogorc _ Cveni mezoblebis, 

raTa Tavi komfortulad igrZnos. 

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evropis adamianis uflebaTa 

sasamarTlos mier „rusTavi 2-is” 

saqmeze gamotanil gadawyvetilebaze 

da am gadawyvetilebiT Seqmnil 

viTarebaze „qronika+~ es- 

aubreba giorgi mSvenieraZes: 

_ giorgi, rogor SeafasebdiT 

im gadawyvetilebas, romelic ad- 

amianis uflebaTa evropulma 

sasamarTlom „rusTavi2"-is saqmeze 

gamoitana (rasac sazogadoe- 

baSi Soki moyva) da arxis elvis 

siswrafiT gadaformebas axali 

mepatronisTvis? 

_ es gadawyvetileba ukve mocemulobaa 

da am mocemulobiT unda 

gavagrZeloT fiqri da moqmedeba. 

imitom, rom didma palatam raRac 

nawilSi romc gadasinjos es gadawyvetileba, 

arsebul mocemulobas, 

arsebiTad, mainc veRar Secvlis. 

_ diax, didma palatam romc 

gamoitanos sxva gadawyvetileba, 

es yvelaferi yaramanaSvilebisT- 

vis kompensaciis gadaxdiT damT- 

avrdeba da ara arxis dabrunebiT. 

_ eg Zalian sakamaTo da bundovania, 

ra moxdeba mag SemTxvevaSic 

ki, Tu didma palatam sxva gadawyvetileba 

gamoitana. metic, 18 ivliss 

rom sxva gadawyvetileba 

gamocxadebuliyo da „rusTavi2"-s 

moego saqme, maSinac ki bundovani 

iyo, rogor ganviTardeboda movlenebi. 

gaurkvevloba iyo da es gaurkvevloba, 

sxvaTa Sioris, nawarmoebia 

samarTalSi arsebuli bundovanebebiT 

da praqtikis ararsebobiT 

_ rogor viqceviT amgvar 

SemTxvevaSi. amdenad, statuskvo 

iyo yvelaze kargi mdgomareoba, 

romelic bundovani iyo, gaurkvevelic 

ki gaxldaT momavali, magram 

mocemulobas inarCunebda, 

sadac „rusTavi2-dan” ismoda kritikuli 

xma, xma, romelic ar moswonda 

xelisuflebas. 

_ strasburgis am gadawyvet- 

ilebam sazogadoebaSi garkveuli 

imedgacrueba gamoiwvia. es gadawyvetileba 

ormagadaa damaziane- 

beli Cveni qveynisTvis: erTi, rom 

am gadawyvetilebis wyalobiT aRar 

gveqneba prodasavluri, anti- 

rusuli arxi, saidanac ismoda ga- 

nsxvavebuli azri, da meore mxriv, 

rom es gadawyvetileba gamoitana 

evrostruqturam, gamoiwvia anti- 

evropuli ganwyoba, rac, isev da 

isev, ruseTs awyobs. 

_ cxadia, dasaSvebia yvelafrisa 

da yvelas kritika, swored amitom 

mogvwons Cven dasavluri Rirebulebebi, 

rom amis uflebas gvani- 

Webs, magram aq gasaTvaliswinebelia 

erTi garemoeba: ruseTi evropis 

mimarT nihilizms, evroskepticizms 

swored evropuli instituciebis 

diskreditaciiT cdilobs 

da axla, rodesac Cven gviwevs 

am evropuli instituciis kritika, 

swored am konteqstidan gamomdinare 

unda gvesmodes, rom es 

Cvengan gacilebiT met dasabuTebulobas 

moiTxovs, rom Cveni kritika 

ruseTis wisqvilze ar asxamdes 

wyals. vgulisxmob imgvari tipis 

gancxadebebs, rodesac gada- 

WriT saubroben, rom strasburgze 

xeli miuwvdeba putins, rom mosamarTleebi 

moisyides da a. S. amgvari 

narativi, cxadia, skepticizms 

aRvivebs evropis, evropuli struqturebis 

mimarT. adamiani elementarulad 

fiqrobs, Tu iqac miuwvdeba 

xeli putins, Tanac ise, rom 

instituciebis mosyidvac SeuZlia, 

maSin raRa gvinda iq, ra azri aqvs, 

putini iqac dagvazianebs. Tan, gasaTvaliswinebelia 

is, rom amgvari 

gancxadebebi amomrCevlis ruseTis 

mimarT loialurad ganwyobil nawilSi 

ki ara, swored prodasavlurad 

ganwyobil amomrCevelSi iwvevs 

gulacruebas. xSirad bevr maTgans 

evropuli Rirebulebebi ki ar 

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aqvs gacnobierebuli da amitom ki 

araa prodasavlurad ganwyobili, 

aramed imitom, rom is dasavleTSi 

xedavs usafrTxo momavals, dasavleTi 

masSi qmnis usafrTxoebis gancdas. 

cxadia, rodesac adamians 

aseTi gancda aqvs, masSi imedgacruebas 

iwvevs rogorc es gadawyvetileba, 

ise am gadawyvetilebis 

gamo sasamarTlos kritika. miT 

ufro, Tu es kritika iseT eWvebs 

efuZneba, romelzec vsaubrobdiT, 

cxadia, iseT ganwyobebs gaaRvivebs, 

romelic sabolood isev ruseTis 

wisqvilze daasxams wyals. 

_ mokled, am ganwyobebs aRvi- 

vebs TviTon gadawyvetilebac da 

am gadawyvetilebis kritikac. 

gadawyvetilebas Cven ver Sevcv- 

liT da rac SegviZlia isaa, rom 

Tavi SevikavoT gadawyvetilebis 

kritikisgan? 

_ ara, me magas ar vgulisxmob, 

gadawyvetilebis kritika aranair 

antidasavlur ganwyobebs ar aCens, 

antidasavlur ganwyobebs aCens am 

gadawyvetilebis mimRebi institutis 

dadanaSauleba putinTan garigebaSi! 

esaa problema. politikosebs, 

rodesac aseT gancxadebas 

akeTeben, minimum, raRac mtkicebuleba 

unda hqondeT da ase 

haerze ar laparakobdnen. 

_ putinis ruseTs rom xeli mi- 

uwvdeba evropul istebliSmentze, 

es ra, axalia? avstriis yofilma 

kanclerma ruseTis rkinigzaSi 

daiwyo muSaoba, sul axlaxan 

vnaxeT, ra gadawyvetileba mi- 

iRo igive evrosabWos asambleam 

ruseTTan dakavSirebiT. anu mT- 

lad yuriT moTreulic araa, rom 

ruseTs evropul institutebSi, 

tebSi, 

saxelmwifo struqturebSi gavlena 

aqvs da xSirad maRali Tanam- 

debobis pirebic hyavs nayidi. 

_ gasagebia, magram rodesac vsaubrobT 

konkretul mosamarTleebze 

da konkretul gadawyvetilebaze 

da rodesac maTze aseT Tamam 

gancxadebebs vakeTebT, me visurvebdi 

ufro met mtkicebulebas. 

_ mainc, ra tipis mtkicebule- 

ba unda iyos? maTi mosyidvis 

faruli Canaweri? erT-erTi mosamarTle, 

romelmac es gadaw- 

yvetileba gamoitana, aRmoCnda, 

rom Cveni universitetis sapatio 

doqtoric ki yofila, magram gam- 

oirCeva antiqarTuli pozicie- 

biT, saqarTvelos ganixilavs okupantad, 

rom Turme Cven dagvipy- 

giorgi mSvenieraZe: 

`mesakuTris 

cvlileba 

aucileblad 

moaxdens 

gavlenas 

saredaqcio 

politikaze. Cven 

aseTi ram 

gamogvivlia, 

pirveli ar aris~ 

ria afxazeTi da a. S. swored im 

narativiT azrovnebs, ra nara- 

tivsac nergavs putini. cxadia, es 

pirdapiri mtkicebuleba araa misi 

putinTan kavSiris, magram eWvis 

safuZvelsac ar iZleva? 

_ gadawyvetileba mxolod mag 

mosamarTles ar miuRia, garda amisa, 

rodesac adamiani saqarTvelosTan 

dakavSirebiT raRacas arasworad 

fiqrobs, Zneli saTqmelia, 

es avtomaturad niSnavs Tu ara 

imas, rom is gadawyvetilebebsac 

arasworad wers. Tuki mtkicebulebebi 

ar arsebobs, me politikosebis 

adgilze mozomili viqnebodi 

gancxadebebSi, ara imitom, rom Sei- 

Zleba es ase ar iyos, rogorc amboben, 

aramed imitom, rom mtkicebulebebis 

gareSe aseTma laparakma 

SeiZleba, Tavad is politika 

daazianos, romlis mxardamWeric 

Sen xar am qveyanaSi. amgvari ganwyobebis 

gaRviveba daazaralebs 

dasavlur kurss. 

_ vfiqrob, sazogadoebamac 

unda gadaxedos Tavis midgomebs 

da arc aseTi gadawyvetilebebi da 

arc am gadawyvetilebebis amgvari 

tipis kritika unda iwvevdes maT- 

Si aseT gancdebsa da ganwyobebs. 

_ rogor muSaobs rusuli propaganda 

CvenTan? ruseTi pirdapir 

aravis eubneba, evropa ar ginda, me 

amirCieo. rusuli propaganda ori 

mimarTulebiT muSaobs: erTi 

mxriv, Cvens erTmorwmuneobaze, 

rom Turme am gziT ruseTTan er- 

Tad Cven SevinarCunebT Cvens kulturas, 

TviTmyofadobas, erovnulobas, 

meore mxriv, aRvivebs swored 

evroskepticizms, evropuli 

`ruseTi evropis mimarT nihilizms, 

evroskepticizms swored evropuli 

instituciebis diskreditaciiT cdilobs da 

axla, rodesac Cven gviwevs am evropuli 

instituciis kritika, swored am konteqstidan 

gamomdinare unda gvesmodes, rom es Cvengan 

gacilebiT met dasabuTebulobas moiTxovs, 

rom Cveni kritika ruseTis wisqvilze ar 

asxamdes wyals. vgulisxmob imgvari tipis 

gancxadebebs, rodesac gadaWriT saubroben, 

rom strasburgze xeli miuwvdeba putins, rom 

mosamarTleebi moisyides da a. S. amgvari 

narativi, cxadia, skepticizms aRvivebs evropis, 

evropuli struqturebis mimarT~ 

struqturebis mimarT nihilizms 

da aseve cdilobs, rom evropa 

Cvens sazogadoebaSi aRiqmebodes, 

rogorc gamryvneli. bolo periodis 

nebismier angariSebSi, romelic 

Seqmnilia rusul propagandasTan 

dakavSirebiT, am or mimarTulebas 

gamoyofs yovelTvis. es 

ar xdeba mxolod saqarTveloSi, 

putini evroskepticizmis gaRvivebas 

yvelgan cdilobs, gansakuTrebiT 

im saxelmwifoebSi, romlebic 

evropuli ojaxis axali wevrebi 

arian. CvenTan aqamdec aRvivebda 

amas, magram es gamosdioda 

mxolod maTTan, vinc ideurad, ase 

Tu ise, iribad mainc maTi mokav- 

Sire iyo, axla ki mas saSualeba 

mieca, es gaaRvivos im adamianebSic 

ki, romlebic evropisken arian. me 

magaliTad politikosi rom viyo, 

xels ar Sevuwyobdi evroskepticizmis 

gaRvivebas. 

_ urTmeliZe gaxarebuli da 

aRfrTovanebuli gamovida, ambobs, 

rom strasburgis es gadawyvetileba 

misi moraluri gamar- 

jvebaa, rom strasburgma aRiara 

misi saqme. amas moyva saxelisu- 

flebo elitis gancxadebebi, rom 

evropam Cveni sasamarTlos miuk- 

erZoebloba aRiara, rom Turme 

nu ityviT da samarTliani sasa- 

marTlo gvqonia. Tqven xarT im 

arasamTavrobo organizaciis war- 

momadgeneli, romelic arsebul 

sasamarTlo sistemas mwvaved 

akritikebs. ai, am sasamarTlos um- 

niSvnelovanesi gadawyvetileba 

aiRo da aRiara strasburgma. axla 

ra vqnaT? virwmunoT, rom marT- 

la kargi sasamarTlo gvaqvs da 

sul tyuilad vakritikebdiT? 

_ kargi kiTxvaa... da es araa, 

ubralod, kiTxva, romelic mxolod 

Jurnalists uCndeba... es 

kiTxva dRes yvela Cvengans awuxebs. 

mec mainteresebs, ra moxda. me 

mainc mgonia, rom Cven detalurad 

unda gavecnoT saqmes, kargad gavaanalizoT, 

ra moxda, ratom moxda 

ase? rame sxvanairad xom ar moxda, 

rame xom ar Seicvala? zogadad, 

evropuli samamarTlo mozomilia 

xolme, rodesac sasamarTloebis 

Sefasebas akeTebs da samarTliani 

sasamarTlos uflebaze msjelobs. 

isic vTqvaT, CvenSi gamarjvebis 

molodini gaaCina droebiTi RonisZiebis 

gamoyenebam, rodesac evropis 

sasamarTlom gamoiyena uprecedento 

RonisZieba am tipis saqmeebisTvis 

da SeaCera adgilobrivi 

gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba. swored 

aman gaaCina CvenSi Zalian didi 

molodini da, faqtobrivad, aRarc 

ki mivuyvebodiT samarTlebriv detalebs 

da vfiqrobdiT, rom es 

saqme ueWvelad mogebuli iyo, imitom 

rom, rogorc wesi, rodesac 

droebiTi RonisZiebis gamoyeneba 

xdeba, is saqme warmatebiT sruldeba 

xolme. SeiZleba, profesiulad 

mcdari molodinic iyo, Sei- 

Zleba ufro meti, me piradad Cem 

Tavze vambob, metad unda CavRrmavebodiT 

sakiTxebs... Cven axla 

vswavlobT am saqmes, kidev erTxel 

detalurad unda gavecnoT yvelafers 

da mxolod mogvianebiT 

iqneba SesaZlebeli imis Tqma, ra 

moxda. ufro adekvatur pasuxebs 

mere gagcemT. 

_ gasagebia, magram ra vuyoT 

Seqmnil situacias, rodesac am 

talRaze xelisufleba utifrad 

gvimtkicebs, rom Turme Cven sa- 

marTliani sasamarTlo gvqonia? 

_ ra Tqma unda, es xelisufleba 

yvelanairad cdilobs, rom es 

gadawyvetileba politikurad mis- 

Tvis sasargeblod warmoaCinos. 

sxva Zalac rom yofiliyo xelisuflebaSi, 

albaT, isic aseve ecdeboda... 

erTi politikosic ar moi- 

Zebna xelisuflebaSi, romelic 

ityoda, rom axla „rusTavi2-is” 

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mesakuTris Secvla gamoiwvevs saredaqcio 

politikis Secvlas, rac 

cudia demokratiisTvis. nacvlad 

amisa, yvela, mTeli xelisufleba 

gulmodgined eloda am gadawyvetilebas 

da gaxarebuli arian, zeimobdnen 

am gadawyvetilebas, metic: 

ara marto am gadawyvetilebas 

zeimobdnen, aramed zeimobdnen or 

wagebul saqmes, romelic imave 

dRes gamocxadda, erT-erTi „vazagaSvilis 

saqmea”. realurad, xelisufleba 

cdilobda, rom evrosasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebebi, 

rakiRa maTi politikuri gundis- 

Tvis sasargeblo iyo, ise warmoeCina, 

rogorc warmateba da ara rogorc 

saxelmwifosTvis zianis momtani. 

am xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi 

cdiloben, rom „rusTavi2- 

is” saqmeze gamotanili gadawyvetilebiT 

isargeblon da es sasamar- 

Tlo gaamarTlon. Cvens sasamarTlo 

sistemaSi rom umZimesi mdgomareoba 

gvaqvs, es axlac Cans _ 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos mosamarTleobis 

kandidatebis gasaubrebebi 

tardeba da vxedavT, rac xdeba, sadac 

varT. es gadawyvetileba aranairad 

ar adasturebs imas, rom kargi 

sasamarTlo gvaqvs qveyanaSi, 

es aris erT konkretul saqmeze gamotanili 

gadawyvetileba da sxva 

araferi. garda amisa, Cems azrze 

vrCebi, rom am saqmes mniSvnelovani 

xarvezebi hqonda samive instancia- 

Si da calsaxa iyo, rom xelisuflebas 

interesi hqonda, „rusTavi 

2-is” saredaqcio politikaze gavlenis 

moxdenis mizniT, mxari daeWira 

da uWerda kidec mxars bolomde 

baton xalvaSs, romelic darwmunebuli 

var, ver iqneba damoukidebeli 

moTamaSe, is xelisuflebis 

proteJe aris da darCeba 

aseTad. 

_ irakli alasaniasi ar iyos, me 

ra vqna, me? me, vinc sxvasTan er- 

Tad vakritikebdi da vamunaTebdi 

mosamarTle urTmeliZes, ki- 

naRam virze SevsviT, murian „tru- 

baSi” gavaZvrineT „rusTavi 2-ze” 

gamotanili gadawyvetilebis ga- 

mo. migvaCnda, rom marTlebi viyaviT, 

rom man miiRo dausabuTebe- 

li, usamarTlo gadawyvetileba, 

rom Seasrula xelisuflebis da- 

kveTa da a. S. axla ki, roca analo- 

giuri gadawyvetileba miiRo ev- 

ropis sasamarTlom, unda davdg- 

eT da pirSi wyali CaviguboT? me 

es moralur diskomforts miqm- 

nis. ra, urTmeliZe dabali Robe 

iyo da gadavalaje da amaT eWvic 

ar unda vakadro? 

_ arafer wyals ar vigubeb pir- 

Si, ra vici, ara mgonia, rom me Cems 

kolegebs, romlebic am Temaze vsaubrobT, 

wylis pirSi Cagubeba 

gadagvewyvitos, piriqiT, am saqmeze 

Cveni pozicia ucvlelia, Cven gvaqvs 

kiTxva, _ ratom ver moxvda sa- 

Tanado argumentebad gadawyvetilebaSi 

is yvelaferi, rac CvenTvis 

xiluli iyo? am kiTxvaze pasuxis 

misaRebad sakmarisi ar aRmoCnda 

ori-sami dRe, amas sWirdeba kidev 

ufro detaluri Seswavla da, albaT, 

raRac logikas vipoviT, ratom 

moxda is, rac moxda. Cveni mizania, 

es logika davadginoT, ara 

marto am saqmisTvis, aramed davadginoT, 

zogadad, rogor iqceva 

evrosasamarTlo msgavs saqmeebze, 

Tundac praqtikisTvis, samomavlod 

rom mainc gaviTvaliswinoT. 

amis garda, axla yvela unda vkoncentrirdeT 

Seqmnil mdgomareobaze, 

mocemulobaze. es mocemuloba 

Zalian mZimea qarTuli myife 

demokratiisTvis. faqtobrivad, 

Cvens qveyanaSi demokratiis erTaderTi 

masuldgmulebeli iyo politikuri 

azris, politikuri sityvis 

sazogadoebisTvis Tanabrad 

miwodebis saSualebebis uzrunvelyofa. 

arsebobda mediapolaruli 


`maxsovs, 2008 wels, rodesac "imedis" mesakuTre Seicvala, maSinac 

dahpirdnen Jurnalistebs, rom isini Tavisuflebi iqnebodnen da aravin 

Seexeboda saredaqcio politikas. magram nabij-nabij, nel-nela icvleboda 

da erTi wlis Tavze miviReT absoluturad Secvlili saredaqcio 

politika da "imedi" iqca prosaxelisuflebo arxad~ 

garemo, magram amave dros ismoda 

pluralistuli azri _ prosaxelisuflebo 

media da sawinaaRmdego 

poziciis mqone „rusTavi 2" 

erTmaneTs met-naklebad abalansebdnen 

da adamians SeeZlo moesmina 

orive gansxvavebuli azri da 

Tavad gamoetana daskvna. ai, amas 

emuqreba axla safrTxe da iq, sadac 

ar arsebobs adgili gansxvavebuli 

azrisTvis, ar arsebobs demokratia. 

vfiqrob, rom mesakuTris 

cvlileba aucileblad moaxdens 

gavlenas saredaqcio politikaze. 

Cven aseTi ram gamogvivlia, 

pirveli ar aris... 

_ swored mag saredaqcio po- 

litikis Sesacvlelad Semoiyvanes 

xalvaSi, Torem xalvaSis sakuTre 

uTre- 

bis uflebebi biZina ivaniSvils 

ise aRelvebda, rogorc Cinuri 

ieroglifebis sinatife _ Tqven. 

_ diax, weRanac aRvniSne, es iyo 

xelisuflebis mier mxardaWerili 

procesi, swored imitom, rom Secvliliyo 

saredaqcio politika. 

xalvaSi iyo erTgvari moTamaSe am 

yvelaferSi, romelic xelisuflebis 

politikas atarebda. maxsovs, 

2008 wels, rodesac „imedis” 

mesakuTre Seicvala, maSinac dahpirdnen 

Jurnalistebs, rom isini 

Tavisuflebi iqnebodnen da aravin 

Seexeboda saredaqcio politikas. 

magram nabij-nabij, nel-nela icvleboda 

da erTi wlis Tavze miviReT 

absoluturad Secvlili 

saredaqcio politika da „imedi” 

iqca prosaxelisuflebo arxad. 

arada, bevri Jurnalisti igive darCa, 

zogierTi wavida arxidan politikaSi, 

maT nacvlad arxze sxvebi 

movidnen, TiTqos araferi moxda, 

magram, sabolood, yvelaferi moxda. 

axlac, mgonia, rom am scenariT 

warimarTeba movlenebi „rusTavi 2- 

Si”. ase pirdapir aravis miadgebian, 

nabij-nabij, nel-nela Seuqmnian 

iseT pirobebs, rom isini iZulebuli 

iqnebian, wavidnen an gaagrZelon 

muSaoba axali saredaqcio 

politikis pirobebSi. axla yvelaze 

metad Jurnalistebis, teqnikuri 

personalis bedi madardebs. 

_ Tqven sakmaod mwvave posti 

gqondaT maTze, vinc Jurnaliste- 

bisgan upirobo demarSs iTxovda 

da akritikebda maT imis gamo, rom 

salias Sexvdnen da garantiebs 

iTxovdnen. 

_ marTali giTxraT, gavRiziandi. 

feisbuks vsqrolavdi da Zalian 

gavRiziandi, Jurnalistebs isini 

amunaTebdnen, vinc saqarTveloSi 

saerTod ar cxovrobs, sazRvargareT 

arian da klaviaturis rakuniT 

arigeben Wkuas am xalxs, 

romelic ibrZoda da ibrZvis 

dResac. moralurad araa swori, am 

adamianebs mosTxovo demarSi da 

samoqalaqo gmiroba, Tan xazia 

gasasmeli, „rusTavi 2-is” Jurnalistebi 

ar danebebulan, dRemde 

ibrZvian! araa swori, es adamianebi 

amunaTo, marto imitom, ratom Sexvdi 

saliaso da maTgan upirobo 

demarSi moiTxovo, wadi saxlSi da 

iyavi mSieri. ras hqvia, Sen xalva- 

Sis televiziaSi rCebi, qudi daixure 

da axlave wamodi mandedan! _ 

cota uzneoba mgonia, amis gamo 

amunaTo adamiani Sen, vinc erT aqciaze 

ar mdgarxar, erTi Ramec ar 

gagiTevia qveynisTvis da marto 

feisbukze arakuneb, kai, ra, sircxvilia! 

Tan Jurnalistebi ras iTxovdnen? 

isev da isev, garantiebs 

saredaqcio damoukideblobisTvis. 

_ dRevandeli Semadgenlobis 

wasvlas ginda _ demarSiT, ginda 

_ udemarSoT, CemTvis piradad 

erT SemTxvevaSi aqvs azri, Tu 

isini wavlen da erTad Seqmnian 

axal televizias. da Tu isini 

unda adgnen da saxlSi wavidnen, 

ras momcems maTi es demarSi, rac 

maT SimSilad daujdebaT? garda 

imisa, rom guls movifxan? 

_ ar SeiZleba, wyalSi CavyaroT 

am xalxis Rvawli, rac maT aqvT 

gaRebuli qarTuli demokratiisTvis. 

gaRebuli aqvT wlobiT, 

gaWirvebiT, bevri tkiviliT, bevri 

brZoliT, bevri cdunebis miuxedavad... 

ar SeiZleba, erTi xelis 

mosmiT xazi gadausva maT Rvawls. 

_ ara, pragmatulad ras gva- 

Zlevs maTi saxlSi wasvla? vimeo- 

reb, Tu axlis Sesaqmnelad wavlen, 

sxvaa da Tu saxlSi unda wav- 

idnen, ra azri aqvs? ginda, maT 

gaugrZelebiaT muSaoba axali 

saredaqcio politikis marwuxeb- 

Si da ginda, sxva mouyvaniaT. mo- 

qmedma Semadgenlobam rom demar- 

Si moawyos, ra moxdeba? zustad 2 

dReSi salia daakompleqtebs axal 

Semadgenlobas. am qveyanaSi arc 

Jurnalistebis deficitia da 

bevr proqocurad ganwyobil Jurnalists 

erTi sulic aqvs, ro- 

dis Sevardeba „rusTavi 2-Si”. 

_ geTanxmebiT, pragmatuladac 

arafers gvaZlevs am xalxis demar- 

Si da saxlSi wasvla. es adamianebi 

arian iq da ibrZvian isev, gadacemebi 

isev kritikulia da iqneba 

kidec raRac momentamde da es 

xalxi mxardaWeris Rirsia da ara 

lanZRvis, _ ras hqvia, darCi da ar 

wamoxvedio. 

_ kritikuli gadacemebi, alb- 

aT, raRac periodi kvlav iqneba 

da Semdeg, rogorc Tqvenc TqviT, 

daiwyeba saredaqcio politikis 

nel-nela koreqtireba da sabol- 

ood „rusTavi 2" prosaxelisuflebo 

arxad iqceva. mokled, erTi 

ram faqtia, „rusTavi 2" dasrul- 

da. 

_ dasrulda Tu ara, jer ar 

viciT. 

_ is „rusTavi 2", rac sazoga- 

doebisTvis iyo, dasrulda. 

_ rodis rom iyo? bolo Svidi 

weli, xom? „rusTavi 2-s” hqonda 

etapebi, rodesac iyo opoziciuri, 

Tavisufali sityvis flagmani da 

hqonda etapi, rodesac iyo mkve- 

Trad saxelisuflebo da aranairi 

survili ar mqonda, gadamerTo, 

meyurebina. 

_ Tu 2004-2012 wlebs gulisx- 

mobT, mainc didi gansxvavebaa im 

2004-2012 wlebis prosaxelisu- 

flebo etapsa da im etaps Soris, 

romelic axla dgeba. maSin isini 

maT mier xelisuflebaSi moyvanil 

Zalas uWerdnen mxars, dRes ki im 

Zalas unda emsaxuron, romelsac 

daundoblad ebrZodnen bolo 7 

weli. 

_ diax, maT is ufro daemarTaT, 

rac „imeds” daemarTa 2007 wels, 

oRond „specnazi” ar Sesula... samwuxarod, 

didi televiziebi saqarTveloSi 

yovelTvis iyo instrumenti 

politikosebis xelSi. isini 

ar arian komerciuli proeqtebi, 

romelic misma damfuZnebelma Seqmna 

fulis saSovnelad, es iyo 

yovelTvis instrumenti politikosebis 

xelSi, an imaT xelSi, vinc 

politikaSi mosvlas apirebda, qmnida, 

aZlierebda am instruments 

da Semdeg modioda. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” saredaqcio 

politikis cvlilebis Semdeg mediaSi 

balansi dairRveva, Seiqmne- 

ba deficiti gansxvavebul azrze, 

informaciaze? ra Seavsebs am 

deficits, socmedia? beWduri 

media? Tu romelime moqmedi an 

axali arxi? sad gadainacvlebs 

„rusTavi 2-is” mayurebeli? 

_ tradiciuli mediebi rac iyo 

_ beWduri media, radio, televizia, 

drosTan erTad kargavs Tavis 

adgils, momxmarebelsa da matulobs 

internetis momxmarebeli, 

amitom tradiciul mediebsac uwevT 

gadawyoba axali gamowvevis sapasuxod. 

yovelwliurad, televizia 

mayureblis 10%-s kargavs da 

es mayurebeli socmediaSi inacvlebs. 

CvenTan televizia, jer kidev, 

inarCunebs gavlenas mxolod imitom, 

rom 50 da 50 wels zemoT 

asakobriv jgufSi gacilebiT maRalia 

televiziis moxmareba gasagebi 

mizezebis gamo. politikurad 

ki swored asakSi Sesuli xalxia aqtiuri, 

vinc arCevnebze dadis. amitomac 

aqvs televizias, jer kidev, 

aseTi gavlena. vfiqrob, „rusTavi 

2-is” saredaqcio politikis Secvla 

gamoiwvevs sxva SedarebiT patara 

mauwyeblebis reitingis gazrdas, 

rogorc es iyo „maestros” SemTxvevaSi, 

roca „imedi” da „rusTavi2" 

iyo prosaxelisuflebo. axla, 

albaT, telekompania „pirvelis” 

fasi gaxuTmagda, rogorc pirdapiri, 

ise iribi gagebiT. es arxi 

dRemde inarCunebs sakmaod kritikul 

pozicias xelisuflebisadmi, 

Tumca mas ar aqvs didi gamocdileba 

da es didi gamocdilebis 

arqona, SeiZleba, jer kidev ver 

sZendes Sanss, rom gaxdes „rusTavi 

2". Zalian gaWirdeba, rom televiziis 

momxmarebeli avtomaturad 

gaxdes gazeTis mkiTxveli an internetmomxmarebeli, 

es gamoiwvevs 

sxva arxze gadarTvas ufro metad. 

rodesac adamiani televizorsaa 

miCveuli, Zalian dabalia imis albaToba, 

rom man informaciuli 

SimSili gazeTiT daikmayofilos. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” mayurebels 

xelSi SerCeba Secvlili saredaq- 

cio politika an mas unda uyuros, 

an gadarTos sxva arxebze. im sxva 

arxebzec isev saxelisuflebo 

propaganda daxvdeba, es xom ar 

gamoiwvevs nel-nela misi poziciebis 

cvlasa da koreqtirebasac xe- 

lisuflebis sasargeblod? 

_ mokle periodSi ki. mokle periodSi 

moxdeba is, rom, albaT, 

Semcirdeba ra kritikuli xma televiziiT, 

gaizrdeba im adamianebis 

raodenoba, vinc naklebad brazdeba 

xelisuflebaze. aq ar aris imaze 

laparaki, rom xelisufleba Seuyvardeba, 

ara, naklebad gabrazdeba 

xelisuflebaze, magram ufro sa- 

Sualovadian perspeqtivaSi piriqiT 

moxdeba. Tuki cecxlze Semodgmul 

mduRare qvabs Tavs kargad 

davaxuravT, cota xani orTqli 

aRar amova, magram mere gaskdeba. 

sinamdvileSi, televizia, sadac 

adamianebs an Tavad SeuZliaT ilaparakon 

sakuTar gasaWirze, an esmis, 

rogor laparakoben sxvebi mis 

gasaWirze, erTgvarad cliT am 

uaryofiTi muxtisgan, orTqli 

gamodis. xelisuflebam qvabs Tavi 

daaxura da es Tavad xelisuflebisTvis 

aris Zalian cudi. eris 

uTqmeli brazi xalxSi dagrovdeba 

da mere ufro cudad amoxeTqavs. 

garda amisa, es gauadvilebs 

xelisuflebas Secdomebis daSvebas 

da gacilebiT met Secdomas 

dauSvebs, vidre aqamde uSvebda. 

roca xelisuflebam icis, rom ar 

hyavs modaraje, is bevrad met Secdomas 

dauSvebs. an vyavarT ager 

modaraje, magram me rac ar unda 

angariSi vwero, Tu media ar aSuqebs 

amas da xalxamde ar midis, 

aranairi azri ar aqvs. vimeoreb, 

xelisuflebas Tu modaraje ar 

hyavs, mas uadvildeba Secdomebis 

daSveba. bevri Secdoma ara marto 

reputaciulia, aramed xalxis 

gaRizianebasac iwvevs. rac, isev da 

isev, cudad ifeTqebs, isev da isev, 

am xelisuflebisTvis. 

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ìvaniSvilis debiutidan~ 

„ku-ku-ru-kuuuu”... yuradReba! 

goCa mircxulava 

yuradReba! eTerSia!.. 

599 26 83 83 

sainformacio-epoqaluri de- 

Javiu vis gWirT? ras vgulisxmob? 

ai, im viTarebas, romelic dRes miviReT sainformacio velze. 

„qarTulma ocnebam” sainformacio TvalsazrisiT, opozi- 

cia, Tu gnebavT, qveyana, zustad imave mdgomareobaSi Caayena, 

rac Tavis droze Seqmna „nacionalurma moZraobam”. profesi- 

uli dakvirvebisTvis sakmaod saintereso konfiguraciaa, 

dameTanxmeT, gansakuTrebiT Sefasebebisa da samomavlo qmede- 

bebis, gaTvlebis TvalsazrisiT. 

politikosebma, samoqalaqo 

seqtorma, eqspertebma, analitikosebma, 

„damoukidebelma” Jurnalistebma, 

romlebic dRes „ocnebas” 

amunaTeben „rusTavi 2-is” 

sakiTxSi, sakuTari inteleqtualuri 

fiasko unda aRiaron. ratom? 

imitom, rom maTi Sefasebebi 

da komentarebi ukve mosmenili 

gvaqvs _ 2010-2011 wlebSi. maTi 

umravlesoba 2004-2005 wlebSi 

metwilad dumda, rac imis daskvnis 

saSualebas gvaZlevs, rom es 

personebi biologiurad gaizardnen 

mxolod da sazogadoebis 

zrdisTvis araferi ukeTebiaT da 

arc arafers akeTeben _ mxolod 

sakuTar keTildReobaze ruduneben 

da dRidan dRemde gvaboleben 

rodenis moazrovnisa Tu akaki 

wereTlis cnobil fotoze gamosaxuli 

pozebis yalbi mibaZviT. 

gavaanalizoT, ra xdeba gareT, 

anu qarTul mediasivrceSi, Tan 

ise, rom aq „ocneba” da misi pasuxismgebloba 

naklebad mainteresebs. 

politika Wadraks hgavs da 

am TamaSis elementarul niuanseb- 

Si garkveulma adamianebma ician, 

rom arsebobs gamzadebuli kombinaciebi, 

romelTac konkretuli 

personebis saxelebi hqvia. Wadrakis 

TamaSi imiTac aris saintereso, 

rom am gamzadebul kombinaciebs 

zogi erTi-erTSi imeorebs, 

sxvebi sakuTari interpretaciiT 

gaiTamaSeben xolme. amitomac axla 

sulac ar aqvs mniSvneloba, 

„ivaniSvilis debiuti” rogor ganviTarda 

da gadaizarda „xalvaSis 

mitelSpilSi” da saWadrako dafasTan 

bobi fiSeri zis Tu mixeil 

tali, karpovi Tu kasparovi. axla 

mTavaria, rom „rusTavis 2-isa” da 

zogadad, qarTuli sainformacio 

velis saWadrako partiaSi „saakaSvilis 

endSpils” vakvirdebiT. 

Tumca vaRiaroT, absoluturad 

sxva improvizaciiT. gagaxsenoT 

„saakaSvilis endSpilis” Sinaarsi? 

_ srulad monopolizebuli mediasivrce 

_ sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli, 

„imedi” da samTavrobo 

propagandis mTavari rupori _ 

„rusTavi 2". ar SegawyenT imis 

gaxsenebiT Tavs, ris fasad daujda 

maSin saakaSvilis xelisuflebas 

am sivrcis uzurpacia, „imedis” 

SemTxvevaSi, gansakuTrebiT. 

„rusTavi 2-is” gangrZnobad process 

ki axlac vakvirdebiT. Tumca 

isic vaRiaroT, rom „ocnebam” 

am SedegisTvis ufro filigranuli 

xerxebi gamoiyena da (mi)saku- 

Trebis sakiTxi yvela „saintereso” 

SemTxvevaSi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT 

aris gamyarebuli 

da Tan rogori maRali donis, es 

Tavadac mogexsenebaT. 

zemoT, roca sayvedurnarevi 

frazebi warmovTqvi, magas erTi 

mogonebiT gavamyareb: 2012 wlis 

maisSi saqarTveloSi evropis nacionaluri 

sainformacio saagentoebis 

aliansis generaluri mdivani, 

erik nuleni da didi britaneTis 

saagentos „presasociaciis” 

gendireqtori, amave aliansis 

biuros wevri klaiv marSali mestumrnen. 

maTi vizitis mizanze 

arafers vityvi, magram am vizitis 

farglebSi dagegmili iyo Sexvedrebi 

politikosebTan, mediaeqspertebTan, 

JurnalistebTan, 

gamomcemlebTan. yvela calk-calke 

da erTad imaze saubrobda, 

rom saqarTveloSi ar aris Tavisufali 

mediagaremo. saRamos vax- 

Samze klaiv marSalma aseTi ram 

miTxra: „etyoba, qarTvelebs giyvarT 

sirTuleebi da am sirTuleebiT, 

problemebiT cxovreba. 

Tu miiCnevT, rom daucvelia 

sakuTrebis sakiTxi, gamudmebiT 

irRveva gamoxatvisa da sityvis 

Tavisufleba da gulwrfelad 

cdilobT ibrZoloT am viTarebis 

gamosasworeblad, ratom ar 

fiqrobT imaze, rom cal-calke am 

yvelaferTan brZola Znelia? ratom 

cdilobT, Tevzi kudiT dai- 

WiroT? aq xom martivi gamosavalia 

_ ibrZoloT damoukidebeli 

da samarTliani sasamarTlo sistemis 

Sesaqmnelad da es yvelaferi, 

raSic amden energias xarjavT, 

warmoudgenlad swrafad 

mogvardeba. saxelmwifos arsebobis 

fundamenturi garanti swored 

sasamarTlo gaxlavT”. pirvelad 

ar vwer am mogonebas da am 

sityvebs bolo 7 wlis ganmavlobaSi, 

magram ra xeiri? 

da iciT, zemoT moyvanili sayveduris 

safuZvels ra warmoadgens? 

Tu imas mimtkiceb, rom xar 

mebrZoli, xar damaSvrali, xar 

principuli, xar „ase” da „ise” da 

Tan meubnebi, rom ar xar koniunqturas 

daqvemdebarebuli, rogor 

xdeba, rom Svidi wlis Tavze 

isev „saakaSvilis endSpils” unda 

vuyuro? rogor xdeba, rom opozicioneri 

politikosebi axla 

imJamindeli opozicionerebisa 

da amJamad xelisuflebaSi myof- 

Ta gamzadebul hedlainebs iyeneben, 

xolo sxva danarCeni sakuTari 

mexsierebis skivrSi iqeqeba 

da imasve imeorebs, rasac ma- 

Sin ambobda? ra gamodis, rom an 

safrTxeebi Sefasda arasworad, 

an prognozi gakeTda mcdari, an 

ufro mdabio survili _ mTavaria 

itivtivo da gamCnevdnen? da 

maSin misia? 

anu 

`ku-kuru- 

kuuuu~... 

Zneli iyo am Sedegis prognozireba? 

ai, 2014 wlis 28 oqtombris 

niusi: „ji-eiC-enis” damfuZnebeli 

goCa mircxulava mediaSi 

Seqmnil mdgomareobas exmianeba 

da wers, rom dekemberSi „maestrosTvis” 

moiclian, ianvarSi 

„reaqcias” daxuraven da gazafxulze 

ivaniSvils „sanukvari mediasivrce” 

eqneba: 

„maestros” dekembris bolomde 

moileven, ianvarSi grigolias 

„reaqcias” daxuraven, ianvarSive 

moiclian sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblisTvis, 

mere internetmediasa 

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unda hqondes. 

mediaserobis Sedegia es, romelsac 

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avtoritetebi, romlebic 

xmas ar amoiReben Tqvens gardacvalebaze. 

maTgan gvirgvins ki ara, panaSvidze 

mosvlasac ar unda elodoT. 

uyureT gularxeinad erTmaneTis 

gardacvalebas. usmineT 

brZeni qarTvelebis gamonaTqvamebs 

Jurnalistur standartebze. 

ixaliseT dRevandeli dRiT. 

sxva arafris Tavi arc gqoniaT da 

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goCa mircxulava „feisbuqze”. 

maSin sul cotaTi avcdi vadebs, 

cotaTi, magram is Sedegi dadga? 

magram maSin es ar iyo poziorebis 

nafiqrali da gacxadebuli 

da yuradRebas vin miaqcevda 

da vin ibrZolebda? mere yvelaferi 

ase moxda da samoqalaqo 

panaSvidic gadavixadeT damwuxrebuli 

saxeebiT. magram, ai, ise _ 

sxvisi mkvdari sxvas mZinare rom 

egona da morCa... zogma siuJetebi 

moamzada, zogma _ CarTvebi, 

zogma erTi-ori toqSouc xia da 

vali movixadeT qveynisa da kolegebis 

winaSe. 

aqve CanarTad _ ra geSvelebaT 

zogierT, zemoT naxseneb „demokrat-liberal 

tipebs”, romlebic 

im serobas eswrebodiT? biZinam 

es rom gagixsenoT? axla xom mas 

eZaxiT uzurpators, oligarqsa 

da diqtators? metyviT, mand 

„rusTavi 2-ze” araferi weriao. 

ar vapireb yvela niusis aq gamotanas 

da ise gipasuxebT, _ weria! 

Tu kargad waikiTxavT, radgan 

„rusTavi 2-ma” da sxvebma airCies 

partniorebad is adamianebi, romlebic 

dRes mis „gardacvalebaze” 

sulac ar Rvrian cremlebs. bevri 

maTgani ki im mimtirebels 

hgavs, kubosTvis Semovlisas erTi 

suli aqvs, gareT gaaRwios da ixarxaros. 

maT gadawyvites ise moqceva, 

razedac 2014 wels vwerdi: 

daisviT eTerSi atrofirebuli 

da nayidi politikanebi, eqspertebi, 

samoqalaqo sazogadoebis 

SeubRalavi avtoritetebi, romlebic 

xmas ar amoiReben Tqvens 

gardacvalebaze. calkeuli maTganis 

knavili rom im mamlis yivils 

hgavs, bibiloze rom hkidia, 

misi „ku-ku-ru-kuuuus” mere ga- 

`ra geSvelebaT zogierT, zemoT naxseneb 

`demokrat-liberal tipebs~, romlebic im 

serobas eswrebodiT? biZinam es rom 

gagixsenoT? axla xom mas eZaxiT 

uzurpators, oligarqsa da diqtators? 

metyviT, mand `rusTavi 2-ze~ araferi 

weriao. ar vapireb yvela niusis aq 

gamotanas da ise gipasuxebT, - weria! Tu 

kargad waikiTxavT, radgan `rusTavi 2-ma~ 

da sxvebma airCies partniorebad is 

adamianebi, romlebic dRes mis 

`gardacvalebaze~ sulac ar Rvrian 

cremlebs. bevri maTgani ki im 

mimtirebels hgavs, kubosTvis Semovlisas 

erTi suli aqvs, gareT gaaRwios da 

ixarxaros~ 

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`saakaSvilis endSpilamde~ 

Tendeba Tu ara, ar iciT? 

da realurad ra moxda „rusTavi 

2-is” SemTxvevaSi? _ Teoriulad, 

nebismierma gonierma adamianma 

icis, rom Zala erTobaSia da 

ara imaSi, mudam iZaxo, _ me var 

erTaderTi, me var flagmani, an 

aZaxebino „isaa saukeTeso” da sxvas 

amreziT, qedmaRlurad uyuro. 

droa, vaRiaroT, rom ar arsebobs 

nomer pirveli media am totalur 

sainformacio epoqaSi, 

roca lamis yvela adamiani samoqalaqo 

Jurnalistia. unda aRiaro 

da mixvde, rom romeliRac 

dabis portalma SesaZloa, msoflio 

eqskluzivi Senze adre gaa- 

JReros da es sulac ar niSnavs, 

rom swored is aris nomer pirveli. 

iseve rogorc ar niSnavs, rom 

Sen ramiT sjobixar mas. ubralod, 

yvela imas akeTebs, rac da 

rogorc SeuZlia. am viTarebaSi 

„me var pirveli”, „is aris pirveli” 

(imitom, rom ekranze Cande) 

aris sxvisTvis TvalSi nacris 

Seyra. eqskluzivebze ar ganvevrcobi, 

giTxariT, uazro ramea. Sen 

ki ar unda iZaxo, rom Sen xar yvelaze 

magari da erTaderTi, aramed 

es aRiaron da gansakuTrebiT 

Tu xar erTaderTi Seni gaazrebiT, 

maSin visgan iTxov solidarobas, 

roca sxva danarCeni mudmivi 

dakninebis reJimSi gyavs? metyviT, 

ase ar ariso. magram mec arafers 

vambob ise ra _ da es dakvirvebis 

ki ara, wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

gamomcemlebTan da mauwyeblebTan 

komunikaciiT miRebuli daskvna 

gaxlavT (iciT, rogoraa saqme, 

ai, mTeli arsebobis ganmavloba- 

Si gamocema rom mudam grantiT 

cxovrobs, arasodes ufiqria, mediabiznesis 

prizmaSi ganexila 

sakuTari saqmianoba da im gamocemebis 

dakninebas rom cdilobs, 

romlis mepatrone dResa da Rames 

aTenebs sakuTari stafisTvis 

jamagiris saSovnelad. vis mimarT 

geqnebaT ufro meti pativiscema? 

Tumca es individualuri aRqmis 

sakiTxia). 

saqarTveloSi didi mediabazari 

ar aris. amitom nebismieri 

gamomcemeli da mauwyebeli unda 

mixvdes, rom aq „me var magari” 

imuSavebs lokalur droSi. aq 

aucilebelia korporaciuli TanamSromloba. 

da is, rom axla 

„rusTavi 2-is” panaSvidze (dameTanxmeT, 

sul araferi da aravin 

rom ar Seicvalos, xalvaSis 

„rusTavi 2" ver iqneba, rac iyo 

manam, iseve rogorc imave xalva- 

Sis „rusTavi 2" ar iyo is, rac iyo 

erosis „rusTavi 2") misuli adamianebi 

morig qelexSi wasasvlead 

emzadebian. 

*** 

qarTuli politikuri speqtri 

da media unda mixvdes _ agresia 

ver imarjvebs. agresiis drom da 

epoqam Caiara. axla „kosmosSi” 

sxva rameebi xdeba. daiwyo sxva 

epoqa, sxva realoba. yvela, vinc 

eTikis, zrdilobis, etiketis 

standarts gascdeba, damarcxdeba. 

vin rogor aranairi mniSvneloba 

ar aqvs. ramdeni? arc 

`saqarTveloSi didi mediabazari ar aris. amitom nebismieri gamomcemeli 

da mauwyebeli unda mixvdes, rom aq `me var magari~ imuSavebs lokalur 

droSi. aq aucilebelia korporaciuli TanamSromloba. da is, rom axla 

`rusTavi 2-is~ panaSvidze (dameTanxmeT, sul araferi da aravin rom ar 

Seicvalos, xalvaSis `rusTavi 2~ ver iqneba, rac iyo manam, iseve rogorc 

imave xalvaSis `rusTavi 2~ ar iyo is, rac iyo erosis `rusTavi 2~) misuli 

adamianebi morig qelexSi wasasvlead emzadebian~ 

amas. lokaluri agresiuli gamarjveba 

ki pozitiviT unda dabalansdes 

da ara dacinviT, niSnis 

mogebiT, qilikiT. Cven unda mivxvdeT, 

rom Cveni gamarjveba ar 

SeiZleba Cveni mezoblis, megobris 

an ojaxis wevris damarcxebad 

vaqcioT mxolod imitom, rom 

isini CvensaviT ar fiqroben da 

qveynisTvis rudunebis sxva gzebs 

xedaven. 

media unda mixvdes _ eqskluzivi 

ki araa mTavari da sxvisi talaxSi 

Treva, aramed faqtis analizi. 

analizi da ara interpretacia. 

cocxlad mkvdari da warsulSi 

CarCenili politikosebi 

unda wavidnen da mudam naftalinSi 

ar unda vamyofoT an mediam 

gaiyvanos isini politikuri velidan 

da Tan Tavazianad: madloba 

didi garjisTvis, brZolisTvis 

magram daisveneT da daasveneT 

saxelmwifo (aq mniSvneloba ar 

aqvs, romeli politikosi romeli 

politikuri gundis wevria). igive 

unda gakeTdes medrove da „zubriaCka 

moazrovne” rodenistebis 

mimarT, romelTac xan eqspertebs 

veZaxiT, xan politilogebs da 

romlebic realurad qveynisTvis, 

saxelmwifosTvis arafers an verafers 

akeTeben (uxeSad vityvi, 

_ ra Cemi fexebis eqspertia is adamiani, 

romelic mTeli weli im 

sferoze, romelzedac qaqanebs, 

erT analizs ar dawers damoukideblad 

da mxolod teleeTerebidan 

da gazeTebisa Tu internetgamocemebis 

gverdebidan gvmoZRvravs?) 

mediam da aq, pirvel rigSi, 

beWdur da internetgamocemebze 

vsaubrob, unda aiZulos is adamianebi, 

romelTac potenciali 

aqvT, xarisxianad da profesionalurad 

akeTon iseTi saqmeebi, 

rac momavali 7 wlis Semdeg isev 

„saakaSvilis endSpilis” yurebas 

ar gvaiZulebs. 

unda gvaxsovdes, rom reanimaciaSi 

myofi ki ar unda mokla, 

imis gamo, rom kargi gamosaTxovari 

sityva gsurs warmoTqva an 

amolesili Tu moxrakuli lobio 

mogenatra, unda ibrZolo, gadaarCino 

da mere Tavad gadawyvets, 

ra unda gaakeTos da rogor. 

Cven mcirericxovani xalxi var 

da ufro mcirericxovani eri. 

sakmarisia amdeni agresia. personaluri 

an jgufis mimarT agresiis 

gamoxatvisas gifiqriaT imaze, 

ras izamT xval, montegebisa da 

kapuletebis rolSi rom aRmoCndeT, 

Tundac tragikuli finalis 

gareSe? sakuTari Svilebis ar 

SegrcxvebaT? 

Cven gvaqvs saocari Semecneba, 

_ gvelsa xvreliT amoiyvans ena 

tkbilad moubari. gvaqvs niWi, 

gvaqvs SemarTeba da es amdeni uaryofiTi 

rogorRac unda SevcvaloT 

pozitiviT, Tundac imiT, 

rom Rimili davibrunoT saxeze. 

gavuRimoT sxvebsac da sxva Tu 

araferi, es xom mxolod sityvebi 

araa _ rac mtrobas daungrevia 

siyvaruls uSenebia _ es wesia, cxovrebis 

wesi, romelic ar gvaxsovs, 

romelsac ki vambobT, magram 

ar vasrulebT. ratom? gana, 

ufro advili araa gaTiSe da ibatones 

an, gnebavT, qaosis pirobeb- 

Si cxovreba? Sansi gvaqvs, ufro 

mets gamovrCebiT... magram am 

gamorCenis fasi? da Tu es fasi 

arnaxulad didi iqneba... „an samwuxaro 

sxva ambavi iqneba gana, romeosa 

da julietas ambavisTana?!” 

amis mosmena gindaT? 

*** 

`media unda mixvdes - eqskluzivi ki araa 

mTavari da sxvisi talaxSi Treva, aramed 

faqtis analizi. analizi da ara 

interpretacia. cocxlad mkvdari da 

warsulSi CarCenili politikosebi unda 

wavidnen da mudam naftalinSi ar unda 

vamyofoT an mediam gaiyvanos isini 

politikuri velidan da Tan Tavazianad: 

madloba didi garjisTvis, brZolisTvis 

magram daisveneT da daasveneT saxelmwifo~ 

da mainc, ratom daviwye sayveduriT? 

imitom, rom es gancda da 

emocia mxolod me ar damuflebia. 

istorikossa da Jurnalist 

daTo gamcemliZes SemoviSvelieb: 

crupentelobad, TvalTmaqcobad 

da utifrobad mimaCnia, rom is 

xalxi, is „status-personebi”, 

romlebic bevrs weren qarTul 

mediasivrceSi bolo 20 wels arsebul 

marazmze („vin-vis-sad-rodis-rogor-ramdenad...”) 

TiTqos 

ver amCneven TvalsaCino gamosavals 

am marazmidan, rac gadawyvets 

am „saSviliSvilo problemas”, 

Tu rogor uzrunvelvyoT, 

erTi mxriv, pluralisturi mediagaremo, 

prosaxelisuflebo Tu 

antisaxelisuflebo(!) oligarqTa 

mier sakuTar televiziebis instrumentad 

gamoyeneba _ prosamTavrobo 

Tu antisamTavrobo(!) 

miznebisTvis, da, meore mxriv, 

davicvaT sazogadoebis ufleba, 

hqondes mravali wyaro informaciis 

miRebisa propagandis (kvlavac 

„anti” Tu „pro”) gamoricxviT. 

amisTvis sakmarisia aviRoT 

britaneTis, germaniis an safrangeTis 

kanonmdebloba „Tavisufali 

da pasuxismgebeli” mediis 

Sesaxeb, misi Sesabamisi regulaciebiT 

obieqturi da dabalansebuli, 

imavdroulad, eTikuri da 

pasuxismgebeli Jurnalistikis 

uzrunvelsayofad da... martivad 

vTargmnoT qarTulad. 

es aris da es. ara? maSin gagr- 

Zeldeba mTeli es marazmi samaradJamod, 

roca televiziebi sxvadasxva 

prosaxelisuflebo Tu 

antisaxelisuflebo oligarqTa 

instrumentia _ prosamTavrobo 

Tu antisamTavrobo interesTa 

gansaxorcieleblad. 

xolo Jurnalistebi darCebian 

am oligarqTa da maTTan dakav- 

Sirebul politikur jgufTa 

monebad, ganurCevlad imisa, „prosamTavroboebi” 

arian Tu „antisamTavroboebi”. 

amiT arsi iotisodenad 

ar icvleba”. 

*** 

ho, araferi gansakuTrebuli, 

TiTqos, amobrunebul sarkeSi 

viyurebi. gareT isev is xdeba, rac 

adre. ubralod, adre saakaSvilma 

iTamaSa partia da Seqmna sqema 

_ „saakaSvilis endSpili”, romelsac 

axla „ocneba”, gnebavT, ivaniSvili 

TamaSobs. da maSin moTama- 

Seebs ras vedavebiT? Cveni brali 

ar aris, rom am TamaSis cqeris 

survili aRmogvaCnda da seirad 

vaqcieT. arada, wesiT, eg partia 

ar unda Semdgariyo da arc Sedgeboda, 

rom ara is agresia, romelic 

ase budobs CvenSi da mosvenebas 

ar gvaZlevs. 

sabolood? es viTarebac Seicvleba 

aucileblad, magram 

amisTvis gvinda sibrZne, goniereba 

da sul cota ram _ agresiis 

damarcxeba, sxva SemTxvevaSi swored 

agresia daamarcxebs agresiulebs. 

da sul bolos: „ku-ku-ru-kuuuu”... 

yuradReba! yuradReba! 

eTerSia... 

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levan qemokliZe 

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evropuli sasamarTlos gadaw- 

yvetileba Secvlis Tu ara mediagaremos saqarTveloSi da ra 

gamowvevis winaSe dgas qarTuli saxelmwifo? 

„qronika+~-is kiTxvebs anali- 

tikosma gia abaSiZem upasuxa: 

_ b-no gia, strasburgis skan- 

dalurma gadawyvetilebam „rus- 

Tavi 2-is” saqmeze qveyanaSi poli- 

tikuri dRis wesrigi Secvala, 

adamianebi garkveul safrTxeebze 

alaparakdnen, aseve movismi- 

neT evropuli sasamarTlos mima- 

rT umwvavesi kritikac opozici- 

uri liderebisgan. Tqven rogor 

afasebT „rusTavi 2-is” irgvliv 

ganviTarebul movlenebs? 

_ strasburgis adamianis uflebaTa 

sasamarTlom aRiara is, 

razec dgas evropa, rom kanonis 

uzenaesoba aris mTavari da qonebis 

kerZo sakuTrebis xelSeuxebloba 

aris uzenaesi. rac Seexeba 

strasburgis gadawyvetilebis 

tragikomikur Sefasebebs zogier- 

Ti opoziciuri nawilidan, madloba 

RmerTs, rom cotani arian 

aseTebi, romlebic amboben, TiTqos, 

ivaniSvilma moisyida mosamarTleebi 

da es iyo putinis gavlenebi, 

daviTgarejSi gaicvala da 

a. S. es aris wminda wylis zRaprebi 

da es miuTiTebs am adamianebis 

fsevdoevropulobasa da fsevdodasavlurobaze, 

romlebic bedaven 

da eWvi SeaqvT strasburgis 

sasamarTloSi. samarTlianobam 

izeima. iq iyo kidev ramdenime 

gadawyvetileba... ar unda dagvaviwydes 

vazagaSvili da sxva wamebis 

saqme. strasburgis sasamarTlom 

saqarTvelos amJamindeli xelisuflebis 

marTlmsajulebas, garkveulwilad, 

wiTeli diplomi gadasca, 

miuxedavad sistemaSi arsebuli 

xarvezebisa, xolo imJamindeli 

„nacionaluri moZraobis” 

xelisufleba samarTlianad damarcxda 

vazagaSvilTan da im sxva 

adamianebTan samarTlebriv dava- 

Si. ar vamtkiceb, rom dRes idealuri 

sasamarTlo sistema aqvs 

saqarTvelos da aranairad ar vapireb 

Sevadaro Sveicariis an norvegiis 

dones, Tumca strasburgis 

am gadawyvetilebebiT saqarTvelos 

amJamindelma xelisuflebam 

mougo „nacionalur moZraobas” 

da aseve „nacionaluri moZraobis” 

xelisuflebam waago sxva qeisebSi, 

romelic iq ganixileboda. 

_ Tu sakuTrebis uflebasTan 

ikveTeba iseTi upiratesi da sa- 

zogadoebisTvis mniSvnelovani 

ufleba, rogoric aris gamox- 

atvis Tavisufleba _ rogor 

fiqrobT, ratom ar imsjela 

evropulma sasamarTlom am mima- 

rTulebiT? 

_ strasburgis sasamarTlo 

mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi, rodesac 

saCivari Sevida 2017 dan 2019- 

mde, ganixilavda, mxareebs Soris 

rogori urTierTdamokidebuleba 

iyo da, amavdroulad, nika gvaramias 

mier gamoCenili sazogadoebrivi 

zeaqtiuroba, adamianebis 

damunaTeba, gineba, gakicxva, galanZRva 

da mosamarTleebis uSveri 

sityvebiT moxsenieba, rasakvirvelia, 

iwereboda da xedavdnen, rom 

mxareze mimdinareobda zewola. es 

erT-erTi mdgenelia da Cven vnaxeT, 

rom SeCerebis meqanizmic Caixsna. 

Tumca iuridiulad SesaZlebeli 

iyo, SeCerebis meqanizmi aRsrulebis 

nawilSi gagrZelebuliyo. 

_ strasburgis es gadaw- 

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`samarTlianobam 

yvetileba, bunebrivia, ver iqne- 

ba „rusTavi 2-is” saqmeze samarT- 

lianobis aRdgena, radgan Cven 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi vxedavdiT, 

rogor gadadioda xelidan xel- 

Si telekompania. dRes ukve irakli 

oqruaSvili acxadebs preten- 

zias imaze, rom, realurad, „ru- 

sTavi 2-is” kanonieri mesakuTre 

Tavad aris... 

_ mTavari aq is aris, rom „rusTavi 

2-is” saqmeze irakli oqruaSvilis 

aRiarebiTi Cveneba gamoikveTa. 

oqruaSvilis aRiarebiTma 

intervium Zalian bevri SekiTxva 

gaaCina: is ver asabuTebs, saidan 

hqonda fuli, romelic xalvaSs 

misca da meore SekiTxvaa, aris is 

Tu ara es Tanxa, irakli oqruaSvilis 

giraos fuli 6-milion-naxevari, 

romelic qibar xalvaSma 

gaidaixada ? am dros xom ar „garasxoddnen”?! 

kidev arsebobs sxva 

SekiTxvebic, im TvalsazrisiT, 

rom irakli oqruaSvili kidev 

sxva raRacas xom ar ityvis da hipoTeturad 

vambob, varaudis doneze, 

es yvelaferi xom ar migviyvans 

mixeil saakaSvilamdec?! mocemuloba 

aris aseTi, Tavdacvis 

ministrs ar SeeZlo, rom hqonoda 

„rusTavi 2" kerZo sakuTrebad 

da is misca Tavis biznespartniors. 

dRes xalvaSis advokati, 

romelic „rusTavi 2-is” direqtoria, 

ambobs, rom xelmowera yalbia. 

Tavad qibar xalvaSi jer ar 

laparakobs, Tumca is mzadyofnas 

gamoTqvams, Sexvdes Tavdapirvel 

damfuZneblebs _ jarji aqimiZes, 

daviT dvals da maT Soris gairkves, 

ra xdeba. aseve kidev erTi 

SekiTxva maqvs, _ unda ki qibar 

xalvaSs mediaproduqtis Seqmna da 

SenarCuneba?! levan, aq aris Zalian 

bevri SekiTxva, vidre pasuxi 

da dRes, am drois monacemebiT, 

rodesac Cven am intervius vwerT, 

es yvelaferi gaurkvevelia. 

aseve mainteresebs, Tu Seinar- 

Cuna arxi qibar xalvaSma da vTqvaT, 

Tu dadasturda, rom oqruaSvili 

marTalia da maT Soris realurad 

moxda werilobiTi Tanxmoba 

kompaniis gadacema-gadmocemaze 

da oqruaSvilis moTxovnis 

safuZvelze sasamarTlom daayadaRa 

qoneba , am mocemulobiTac 

„rusTavi 2" droebiT darCeba xalvaSs 

da am qonebas is veRar gankargavs 

veranairad, anu aq TamaSgare 

rCebian aqimiZe da dvali. 

„rusTavi 2-ma” wlebis ganmavlobaSi 

20-mde mepatrone gamoicvala 

warmoudgeneli siswrafiT, 

siyalbiTa da gaugebari kombinaciebiT. 

amitom samarTlebriv konteqstSi 

simarTlis dadgenas didi 

dro dasWirdeba, Torem politikurad 

SeiZleba yvelam raRac 

gancxadebebi akeTos. mecodebian 

is TanamSromlebi, romlebic gaurkvevlobaSi 

arian da axali direqtori 

ambobs, rom kompaniaSi 

didi finansuri problemebia. aq 

Cndeba kidev erTi SekiTxva, _ aqvs 

ki xalvaSs finansebis damatebis 

survili da resursi, arxma gaagr- 

Zelos funqcionireba an ar Seamciros 

TanamSromlebi?! 

gia abaSiZe: 

`strasburgis 

sasamarTlom 

saqarTvelos 

amJamindeli 

xelisuflebis 

marTlmsajulebas 

wiTeli diplomi 

gadasca~ 

_ realurad, jarji aqimiZisa 

da daviT dvalis saqme dRes 

prokuraturaSi Tarozea Semode- 

buli. rogor fiqrobT, ar aris 

dro, Tu xelisufleba gvevline- 

ba samarTlianobis garantad da 

damoukidebeli mediis gulSematkivrad, 

es saqme Tarodan Cam- 

oiRos? 

_ ra Tqma unda! aseve kidev sxva 

bevri saqme moiTxovs msvlelobas, 

romelic wina xelisuflebis sxva 

mankier da saSinel qeisebzea. Tumca, 

amave dros, xelisuflebis 

zogierT warmomadgenels vurCevdi, 

didi dabejiTebiT nu acxadebs 

sajarod, rom „rusTavis 2-is” 

saredaqcio politika ar Seicvleba. 

es cota ugunurobas hgavs, anu 

xelisufleba afilirebs am gancxadebebiT 

Tavad „rusTavi 2-Tan”, 

rodesac es kerZo sakuTrebaa?! es 

Tavad xalvaSma unda gadawyvitos, 

arxis saredaqcio politika 

rogori iqneba, ra SenarCundeba 

da ra ar SenarCundeba. 

Cven aseve aucileblad unda 

vikiTxoT, sad arian Zmebi yaramaniSvilebi, 

sad aris, rogorc amboben, 

ruseTis moqalaqe koba nayofias 

Svili, isini xom mewileebi 

arian da sad aris maTi pasuxebi, 

sajaro komentarebi?! es yvelaferi 

Zalian did da kidev bevr 

kiTxvis niSans badebs da gagaxsenebT: 

rodesac 2012 wels xelisufleba 

Seicvala, raRac Zalian 

ucnaurad Sexvda giorgi arvelaZe 

badri patarkaciSvilis ojaxs da 

telekompania „imedi” ucnaurad 

daubrunda maT ojaxs. bevri SekiTxva 

aris sxva qonebriv davebze, 

igive „maestros” damfuZnebels 

òqruaSvilis aRiarebiTma intervium Zalian 

bevri SekiTxva gaaCina: is ver asabuTebs, 

saidan hqonda fuli, romelic xalvaSs misca 

da meore SekiTxvaa, aris is Tu ara es Tanxa, 

irakli oqruaSvilis giraos fuli 6-milion- 

naxevari, romelic qibar xalvaSma gaidaixada 

? am dros xom ar `garasxoddnen~?! kidev 

arsebobs sxva SekiTxvebic, im TvalsazrisiT, 

rom irakli oqruaSvili kidev sxva raRacas 

xom ar ityvis da hipoTeturad vambob, 

varaudis doneze, es yvelaferi xom ar 

migviyvans mixeil saakaSvilamdec?!~ 

aqvs pretenziebi, anu marTals 

brZanebT, Tu samarTali samarTlianobs, 

maSin cota unda davaCqaroT, 

rom sazogadoebaSi Seiqmnas 

imis ganwyoba, rom samarTlianoba 

Zalian ar iweleba da ar 

dgas erT adgilas. 

_ faqtia, sazogadoebriv 

azrze xelisuflebis sasarge- 

blod gadaixara gavlenebi da 

imis Tqma, rom ar Seicvleba 

„rusTavi 2-is” saredaqcio poli- 

tika, rogorc amas xelisufleb- 

is warmomadgenlebi da aseve 

qibar xalvaSic acxadebs, rTu- 

lad dasajerebelia. da Tu es ase 

moxda da „rusTavi 2" aRar iqne- 

ba iseTi, rogoric dRes aris, es 

yvelaferi iqoniebs Tu ara uary- 

ofiT gavlenas qveyanaSi arsebul 

demokratiis xarisxsa da mediis 

Tavisuflebaze? 

_ xelisufleba Zalian didi 

testis winaSe dgas, is myife zRvarzea. 

aucileblad unda Senar- 

Cundes media pluralisturi 

garemo. „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

da misi satelitebi dRes iseT ganwyobas 

qmnian, TiTqos saqarTvelo 

ganagrZobs CamoSlas da apokalifss 

gvixataven. ra Tqma unda, 

xelisufleba qmnis garemos da pasuxismgebloba 

aqvs, SeinarCunos 

pluralisturi mediagaremo 

qveyanaSi, romelic ar unda badebdes 

SekiTxvebs. Tu problemebia 

da es problemebi iyo telekompania 

„iberiaze”, aseve, garkveulwilad, 

problemebi iyo telekompania 

„pirvelzec” da mere es problemebi 

Caqra, axla „rusTavi 2" samarTlianad 

daubrunda erT-erT 

mepatrones da ar viciT, daubrundeba 

Tu ara aqimiZesa da dvals. 

saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba 

yovelTvis mogviwodebs gamWvirvalobisken 

da rac me giTxariT, 

im SekiTxvebs aucileblad unda 

gaeces pasuxebi. es yvelaferi 

transfarentulad warmoCenili 

unda iyos, radgan saqarTveloSi 

mimdinare procesebs gamadidebeli 

SuSiT daakvirdebian ucxoeli 

diplomatebi. 

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izeima!~ 

_ zogadad rom visaubroT 

saqarTveloSi mediis damoukide- 

blobasa da mis xarisxze, „rusT- 

avi 2" xom, garkveulwilad, misi 

saredaqcio politikidan gamom- 

dinare, xelisuflebisgan damo- 

ukidebeli da Zlieri oponenti 

iyo, rac erTgvari garanti gax- 

ldaT, Tundac sxva SedarebiT 

patara ara damoukidebeli media aqtorebisTvis. 

magaliTisTvis avi- 

RoT Tundac „saraliZis saqme” 

da sxva gaxmaurebuli saqmeebi. 

uSvebT Tu ara imas, rom „rusTavi 

2-is” saredaqcio politikis Secvla 

Zalian did dartymas miay- 

enebs Tavisufal medias da xom 

ar fiqrobT, problemuri Temebi 

gaqreba da maSin, rodesac xelisufleba 

cdilobs Zalau- 

flebis SenarCunebas, xom ar 

miviRebT avtoritarizms? 

_ mivdivarT globalur SekiTxvamde, 

_ gana, sad aris damoukidebeli 

media, romel qveyanaSi?! 

media did qveynebSi, dasavleTSic 

atarebs Tavisi mepatroneebis 

kerZo intersebs SeZlebisdagvarad, 

magram iqauri mediis standartebi 

sxva aris, vidre saqarTveloSi. 

„rusTavi 2" namdvilad iyo 

xelisuflebis didi oponenti da 

dRemde aris, magram, amave dros, 

man absoluturad gaifuWa Tavi im 

mxriv, rom is ara mxolod „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” rupori iyo, 

aramed iyo mTavari dazga Fake 

News-ebis warmoqmnaSi da Cven yovelTvis 

vxedavdiT am yalb ambebs 

myisierad, misi ramdenime sateliti 

sainformacio saagento rogor 

avrcelebda zustad igive teqstiT 

da hedlainiT. Fake News-Tan 

brZola es aris globaluri seni 

yvela qveyanaSi da uyureT axla, 

sad Cven da sad amerika?! amerikis 

prezidenti trampi CNN-s, CBS-s, 

New york time-s eZaxis Fake Newserebs 

da mudmivi Widili midis... 

es ar aris mxolod saqarTvelos 

problema, magram CvenTan kidev 

sxva problemebi iCens Tavs, _ mediis 

TviTregulirebis meqanizmi 

Zalian dabali donisaa da araefeqtiani. 

„ruTavi 2~ manamde saer- 

Tod aignorebda saqarTvelos JurnalistTa 

qartias da axla piriqiT, 

maTi daxmareba dasWirda. 

„rusTavi 2-Si” Sida regulirebis 

meqanizmi saerTod ar muSaobda, 

cota gabuniaze imuSava, rodesac 

ori TviT Caxsna eTeridan, danar- 

Ceni gvaxsovs, rom araferi icvleboda 

da gvaramias gineba ufro 

uxeS ginebaSi gadadioda. 

qarTul medias TviTregulirebis 

meqanizmebi dasaxvewi aqvs da 

me vixrebi xolme evropuli da 

dasavluri modelisken, rom Tavad 

medias unda hqondes mZlavri 

TviTregulirebis meqanizmi. did 

britaneTSi arsebobs aseTi sistema, 

_ yvela telearxs, maT Soris, 

BBC-sac aregulirebs saxelmwifo 

kompania OFCOM-i, is aris maregulirebeli, 

romelic Civilebs 

iRebs da mayurebels icavs mavne 

zegavlenisgan, yalbi ambebisgan, 

sibilwisgan _ aq vgulisxmob pornografias 

da a. S. 

ver vxedav saSiSroebas, sityvis 

Tavisuflebas rame problema Seeqmnas, 

radgan Tanamedrove, globaluri 

telekomunikaciebis epoqaSi, 

rodesac raRac telekompania 

„samzareulo” arsebobs da is 

vTqvaT ganaviTaro da gaxado mediis 

ganviTarebis flangmani, gaaCnia, 

ra resurss Cadeb da rogori 

iqneba _ aseTi saSiSroeba ar arsebobs, 

mniSvnelovania socialuri 

mediis rolic. aseve telekompania 

„pirveli” sakmaod imedismomcemi 

tempiT viTardeba, Tumca, 

Cemi piradi mosazrebiT, vusurvebdi, 

rom meti akademiuri 

`CvenTan kidev sxva problemebi iCens Tavs, - 

mediis TviTregulirebis meqanizmi Zalian 

dabali donisaa da araefeqtiani. `ruTavi 2" 

manamde saerTod aignorebda saqarTvelos 

JurnalistTa qartias da axla piriqiT, maTi 

daxmareba dasWirda. `rusTavi 2-Si~ Sida 

regulirebis meqanizmi saerTod ar muSaobda, 

cota gabuniaze imuSava, rodesac ori TviT 

Caxsna eTeridan, danarCeni gvaxsovs, rom 

araferi icvleboda da gvaramias gineba ufro 

uxeS ginebaSi gadadioda~ 

àr vamtkiceb, rom dRes idealuri sasamarTlo sistema aqvs saqarTvelos 

da aranairad ar vapireb Sevadaro Sveicariis an norvegiis dones, Tumca 

strasburgis am gadawyvetilebebiT saqarTvelos amJamindelma xelisuflebam 

mougo `nacionalur moZraobas~ da aseve `nacionaluri moZraobis~ 

xelisuflebam waago sxva qeisebSi, romelic iq ganixileboda~ 

saxe SeenarCunebinos. telekompania 

„pirvels” xandaxan axasiaTebs 

cota bulvaruli debatebi da es 

ar Seefereba im karg resurss, rac 

mas aqvs. arsebobs milioniani 

blogerebis videoplatformebi 

da a. S 

cxadia, „rusTavi 2-is” simaRlesa 

da potencials veravin Seedreba, 

magram gamomdinare iqidan, 

rom „rusTavi 2"-Si niWieri xalxi 

muSaobs da es yovelTvis ase iyo, 

imeds gamovTqvam, maTi nawili 

gaacnobierebs, rom cota sxvanairad, 

daxvewilad da akademiuradac 

SeiZleba oponireba, ise rogorc 

amas akeTeben wamyvani dasav- 

luri mediasaSualebebi. cxadia, 

maT gauWirdebaT „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” Sleifidan gamosvla, 

magram ar aris gamoricxuli, iq 

raRac gadaTamaSebebi moxdes. arsebobs 

varaudi, rom telekompania 

„mesame” da „marao” gadakeTdes 

„rusTavi 3-ad”, es zustad aravin 

icis. vnaxoT, ra moxdeba. 

amitom vfiqrob, media Tavisuflebas 

safrTxe ar daemuqreba, 

ra Tqma unda, arsebobs am mimarTulebiT 

xarvezebi da Zalian 

myife xazze gavdivarT, magram imedi 

maqvs, rom gamadidebeli SuSiT 

gvakvirdebian rogorc aRmosavleTSi 

partrniorobis lider 

qveyanas. arsebobs rekomendaciebi, 

daxmarebebi da, ase vTqvaT, 

proeqtebi. SesaZlebelia, garkveuli 

periodi iyos sirTuleebi, 

magram grZelvadian perspeqtiva- 

Si SeuZlebelia Tavisufali sityvis 

CaxSoba da meore is, rom 

dasavlel partniorebTan varT 

pirdapir xazze da namdvilad ar 

varT belarusi, rogorc surs 

warmoCena zogierTs „nacionaluri 

moZraobidan”. saqarTvelo 

sul sxva qveyanaa da fexdafex midis 

win evropisa da dasavleTis 

rekomendaciebis mixedviT. 

aqac gavimeoreb: xelisuflebam 

iseTi pirobebi unda Seqmnas ara 

CareviT, Tundac SuamavlobiT, 

rom arCevnebis win erT-erTi mniSvnelovani 

telekompaniis ekrani 

ar Caqres. es sakmaod damazianebeli 

iqneba qveynis politikuri 

reitingisTvis saerTaSoriso asparezze. 

xelisuflebam yvelanairi 

saerTaSoriso mediaciiT da 

Tavisi resursebiT unda moaxerxos, 

rom kritikuli arxi ar gaqres. 

ra Tqma unda, xelisufleba ver 

Caereva komerciulad da verc redaqciulad, 

Tumca „rusTavi 2-ma” 

unda gaagrZelos mauwyebloba. absoluturi 

giJi da Slegi unda 

iyo, rom Tqva, _ me minda, yvela 

arxi laparakobdes erTi partiis 

narativiT. umniSvnelovanesia, xelisuflebam 

saparlamento arCevnebis 

win uzrunvelyos erT-erTi 

mniSvnelovani da kritikuli televiziis 

gadarCena da arc erTi 

marwuxebi ar unda hqondes mas _ 

arc finansuri, arc _ samarTlebrivi 

da „rusTavi 2-ma” unda 

ganagrZos Cveuli mauwyebloba. 

2017 wlis 13 marts,TbilisSi, bo- 

WoriSvilis quCis mimdebare teritoriaze 

gansakuTrebiT didi odenobis 

narkotiki Caudes Cems Svils daviT 

xarSilaZes, dakavebis da Cxrekis oqmebis 

mixedviT, SemTxvevis adgilze mxolod 

ori policieli imyofeboda, realurad, 

ki TviTmxilveli mowmis mier 

gadaRebulma firma daadastura rom 

narkotikebis Cadebis operacias Ss ma- 

RalCinosani ramaz TaraSvili xelmZRvanelobda 

da operaciaSi 12 ze meti 

policieli monawileobda. 

q Tbilisis prokuraturam aRniSnul 

faqtze daiwyo gamoZieba, saqmis masalebSi 

miTiTebuli piradobis nomrebis 

aucilebeli ganmarteba 

mixedviT davadgineT narkotikebis CadebaSi 

monawile policielebis vinaoba: 

kukuri wivwivaZe, zurab qumelaSvili, 

mixeil CiviaSvili, arCil oqruaSvili, 

valerian CibiraSvili, zaqaria vasaZe, 

aleqsi koberiZe. saqmis masalebSi erT 

erTi piradobis mowmobis nomeri miTiTebuli 

iyo arasworad, teqnikuri Secdomis 

gamo, piradobis mowmobis mixedviT 

saerTo bazaSi moiZebna sul sxva piri 

aleqsandre jafoSvili, romelsac rogorc 

mogvianebiT gairkva, realurad 

aranairi Sexeba Cemi Svilis narkotikebis 

CadebasTan ar hqonia, da misi vinaoba 

Cems mier satelevizio interviuSi dasaxelda 

zaza jaxvelaZis magier. 

faqtis gadamowmebis Semdeg, prokuraturis 

teqnikuri Secdoma gamosworda 

operatiulad, aleqsandre jafoSvilis 

gvari oTxTviani brZolis dros 

arc erT sajaro gancxadebaSi aRar 

dasaxelebula, misi foto ar ganTavsebula 

narkotikebis CamdebTa specialur 

gverdze. 

daviT xarSilaZe wardgenil braldebebSi 

ori instanciis sasamarTlom 

udanaSaulod scno da is srulad gamarTlda, 

aleqsandre jafoSvilma ki misi 

piradi reputaciis aRdgenis mizniT 

mimarTa sasamarTlos. orive mxare gagebiT 

movekideT Seqmnil gaugebrobas, 

Cven vasworebT teqnikuri xarveziT 

gamowveul uxerxulobas, sajarod 

vacxadebT rom aleqsandre jafoSvils 

aranairi Sexeba Cemi SvilisaTvis narkotikebis 

Cadebis faqtTan ar hqonia 

da sajarod vuxdiT bodiSs. 

pativiscemiT 

eliso kilaZe 

„qronika+“-is mTavari redaqtori 

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`CamoiRon prokuraturis Tarodan jarji 

politikuri polarizacia da 

levan qemokliZe 

qarTuli mediagaremo _ ra safrTx- 

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is winaSe dgas gamoxatvis Tavisufleba 

saqarTveloSi, rogor aisaxeba 

„rusTavi 2-is” irgvliv mimdinare procesebi mediis damoukideblobaze 

da uqmnis Tu ara safrTxes qveynis demokratiul ganvi- 

Tarebas? 

„qronika+~-is kiTxvebs pasuxobs 

Jurnalistikis resurscentris 

xelmZRvaneli _ naTia ku- 

praSvili: 

_ q-no naTia, strasburgis sasa- 

marTlos gadawyvetilebam „rusT- 

avi 2-is” saqmeze sazogadoebaSi 

orazrovani Sefasebebi gamoiwvia 

da qveyanaSi politikuri dRis 

wesrigi Secvala. TqvenTvis ras 

niSnavs is realoba, romelic miv- 

iReT da ras fiqrobT evropuli 

sasamarTlos am verdiqtze? 

_ wesiT, unda iyos orazrovani. 

erTia gadawyvetilebis samarTlebrivi 

mxare da unda iTqvas, rom 

strasburgis sasamarTlom imsjela 

konkretul saqmesTan dakav- 

SirebiT _ am SemTxvevaSi es iyo 

qibar xalvaSis dava. evropul sasamarTlos 

ar umsjelia zogadi konteqstis 

mimarTulebiT. samarTlebriv 

analizs ar Sevudgebi, ar 

var iuristi da arc unda mqondes 

civi iuridiuli ganxilva. me gansxvavebul 

azrTan erTad aseve unda 

mqondes pativiscema strasburgis 

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis 

mimarT, gansakuTrebiT maSin, roca 

Svidive mosamarTle erTxmad uWers 

mxars da mxolod erT muxlSi 

aris gansxvavebuli azri erTi mosamarTlis. 

simarTle rom giTxraT, 

iuridiuli mxare da msjeloba 

samarTlebrivi kuTxiT arc mainteresebs. 

Tumca, meore mxriv, 

politikur nawilze namdvilad 

unda vimsjeloT, aranairi tabu ar 

adevs imas, rom radgan es evrosasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebaa, ar visaubroT 

imaze, Tu rogori cudi 

gavlena eqneba am gadawyvetilebas 

demokratiaze Cvens qveyanaSi. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” irgvliv 

mravali welia vxedavT problemur 

sakiTxebs sakuTrebis ufle- 

baze. SegviZlia imis Tqma, rom st- 

rasburgis es gadawyvetileba sam- 

arTlianobis aRdgenad aRviqvaT? 

_ diax, Tqven sworad aRniSneT, 

daarsebis dRidan vxedavT procesebs 

„rusTavi 2-Tan” dakavSirebiT 

da cxadia, Tu zogadad samarTlianobaze 

visaubrebT, aseT SemTxvevaSi, 

qibar xalvaSis xelSi gadasuli 

telekompania ver iqneba samarTlianobis 

nimuSi. CemTvis, pirvel 

rigSi, aq iwyeba moqmedi xelisuflebis 

pasuxismgebloba da mudmivad 

vaqcentireb amaze, _ ra saqmec 

devs prokuraturaSi Taroze 

_ es aris daviT dvalisa da jarji 

aqimiZis dava, _ samarTlianobis 

aRdgenas iTxovs. prokuraturaSi 

udevT gamoZiebuli saqme, am Temaze 

araerTi Jurnalisturi gamoZiebac 

ki arsebobs, romelic me minaxavs, 

magram xelisuflebas ar 

aqvs neba, es saqme Tarodan CamoiRos. 

swored es aris teqsti, realurad, 

aRdga Tu ara samarTlianoba... 

ver iqneba samarTlianoba 

aRdgenili, roca vsaubrobT qibar 

xalvaSze, romelic Cveulebrivi 

Semsrulebeli da mona iyo mixeil 

saakaSvilis Tavis droze, roca is 

mivida „rusTavi 2-Si”. is TviTon 

iyo wamrTmevi am televiziis da mis 

xelSi dabrunebuli telekompania 

ver ganixileba samarTlianobis 

konteqstSi, es cxadze ucxadesia. 

_ qibar xalvaSi pirvelive 

dRidan dan ambobs, rom is ar Caereva 

arxis saredaqcio politikaSi, 

Tumca Cven maleve vixileT Tan- 

amdebobidan ganTavisuflebuli 

nika gvaramia, romelic teleko- 

mpaniaSi arsebuli saredaqcio politikis 

mTavar garantad moiaz- 

reboda... 

_ qibar xalvaSs arasdros daumalavs, 

rom nika gvaramia Tavisi 

saredaqcio politikiT ar moswonda. 

me ufro sxvanairad davsvamdi 

am kiTxvas, _ ras niSnavs is, rom 

qibar xalvaSi Tavisive sityvas gadavida 

da dRes misi gadawyvetilebiT 

sxva adamiani aris arxis 

direqtori da ara daviT dvali?! 

qibar xalvaSi, Tavis droze, 

acxadebda, rom amis mzaoba hqonda 

da Tu daviT dvali mividoda direqtorad 

televiziaSi, garkveulwilad, 

amiT raRac samarTlianobis 

elfers SesZenda am saqmes. es 

aris, Cemi azriT, dRis wesrigis 

mTavari kiTxva dRes da ara is, nika 

gvaramias moxsnida Tu ara. ra Tqma 

unda, misi saredaqcio politika 

qibar xalvaSisTvis miuRebeli iyo 

da bolo periodSi amas arasodes 

malavda, roca es dava mimdinareobda 

„rusTavi 2-Tan” dakavSirebiT. 

_ evropuli sasamarTlos gada- 

wyvetilebis Semdgom, bunebrivia, 

warmoiqmna riskebi, romelic Cve- 

ni qveynisTvis erTgvari gamowvevaa 

da pluralistur mediagaremos 

safrTxes Seuqmnis.. es procesebi 

xom ar iqneba qarTul mediaSi 

arsebuli mankieri praq- 

tikis gagrZeleba? 

_ „rusTavi 2" aRar iqneba im 

saxiT, rogoric aqamde iyo. es ukve 

mocemulobaa da SegviZlia, am kuTxiT 

vimsjeloT. polarizebuli 

iyo Cveni garemo, media, magram es 

iyo politikaSi arsebuli viTarebis 

paraleluri mdgomareoba, sadac 

gvyavs ori dominanti partia, 

partiasac ver daarqmev, radgan 

ideologiuri safuZveli gamoclili 

aqvs erTsac da meoresac _ es 

aris „nacionaluri moZraoba” da 

„qarTuli ocneba”. 

aRniSnul politikur Zalebs 

Tanabari pirobebi hqondaT media- 

Si, anu orive flobda Zlier media 

instruments. Sesabamisad, maT gavlena 

hqondaT sazogadoebriv azrze. 

axla es balansi xelisuflebis 

sasargeblod Seicvala da ra, Tqma 

unda, daaklda „nacionalur moZraobas”. 

swored es mocemuloba 

gamoiwvevs cvlilebebs mediaSi da 

rom ganvixiloT konkretuli magaliTebi 

da davsvaT kiTxva, _ rom 

ar hqonoda opozicias „rusTavi 2", 

ramdenad iqneboda aqcentirebuli 

igive „saraliZis saqme”? SesaZloa, 

saraliZeze vTqvaT, rom sazogadoebrivma 

mauwyebelma Jurnalisturi 

gamoZieba gaakeTa da, sxvaTa 

Soris, erT-erTi yvelaze kargi gamoZieba 

iyo „saraliZis saqmesTan” 

dakavSirebiT. magram SegaxsenebT, 

rom momzadebul films eTerSi 

gasvlis problema hqonda da ra 

SeiZleba moxdes xval? Tu vimkiTx- 

naTia kupraSvili: 

`rogorc am 

qveynis 

gulSematkivari, 

visurvebdi, rom 

xelisuflebam 

saxe 

SeinarCunos~ 

avebT, vimsjelebT, momavalSi gavixedavT 

da varaudis doneze Sei- 

Zleba vTqvaT, rom Tuki sadme arsebobs 

Tavisufali mediasivrce, 

arsebobs Tavisufali sagamoZiebo 

gundi, romelsac Tavisi produqti 

auditoriamde mihqonda, arsebobs 

saSiSroeba, rom is SeizRudos, 

radgan manamde aranair SezRudvas 

azri ar hqonda, radgan „rusTavi 

2" yiraze gadadioda Tematuri 

gaSuqebis kuTxiT, yvela Tema 

gahqonda eTerSi, didi nawili gahqonda 

sakmaod sadavo Jurnalisturi 

principebiT, magram amas axerxebda 

da es, garkveulwilad, er- 

Tian xazs qmnida damoukidebeli 

moTamaSeebisTvis _ maTi simarTle 

imdenad ar iyo Semawuxebeli xelisuflebisTvis, 

radgan ukve arsebobda 

es simarTle, SesaZloa 

cudad gaSuqebuli, magram is ukve 

gaSuqebuli iyo „rusTavi 2-ze”. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” axal direq- 

tors mcdeloba aqvs, arxze dar- 

Cenil JurnalistebTan saerTo 

ena gamonaxos, Jurnalistebsac, 

Tavis mxriv, moTxovnebi aqvT... 

isini ar apireben arxidan wamosv- 

las, sakuTari uflebebis dasaca- 

vad arxze rCebian. es procesi 

Sedegs moitans? 

_ ra Tqma unda, amis mcdeloba 

da interesic unda iyos, Tuki 

„rusTavi 2-is” TanamSromlebi mzaobas 

acxadeben, gaagrZelon muSaoba 

individualuri Jurnalisturi 

pasuxismgeblobiT, gamoxatvis Tavisuflebis 

nawilSi. yvelam unda 

ifiqros da xeli Seuwyos imas, rom 

maTi ufleba bolomde daculi da 

SenarCunebuli iyos. es aris swori 

midgoma, rom ar datoves arxi da 

ar gamoiqcnen, TavianTi gamoxatvis 

Tavisuflebis dacvas cdiloben. 

_ aseve movismineT xelisu- 

flebis gancxadeba, rom is aris 

garanti mediisa da sityvis Tavis- 

`vimeoreb: nika gvaramias, Tu unda, xvalve gaxsnis 

arxs da ar mgonia, xelisuflebam bolomde saxe 

dakargos da amaSi vinmem, romelime 

politikurma Zalam xeli SeuSalos. magram aseve, 

ra Tqma unda, Zalian rTuli iqneba imis Tqma, 

rom is iseve moazdens sazogadoebriv azrze 

gavlenas, rogoradac aRwevda "rusTavi 2-is" 

SemTxvevaSi. es gamoricxulia, yvelaferi, mTeli 

Sroma rom Cados nebismierma, amas veravin 

miaRwevs, miT ufro, arCevnebamde~ 

uflebis. Tqven aqtiurad xarT 

CarTuli da ikvlevT mediagarem- 

os saqarTveloSi, ra SegiZliaT 

gviTxraT rogorc eqspertma, ram- 

denad gulwrfelia xelisufleba 

im gancxadebebis gakeTebis dros, 

rasac vismenT maTi mxridan da, 

zogadad, mediis damoukideblo 

ukideblobis 

xarisxi ramdenad aris imedis- 

momcemi, Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im 

axal realobas, rac strasburgis 

gadawyvetilebis Semdeg miviReT? 

_ yvela avtoritetuli organizacia, 

Cemi piradi Sefaseba rom 

gverdiT gadavdoT, gamoxatvis 

Tavisuflebis gauaresebaze miuTi- 

Tebs. mediis Tavisuflebis TvalsazrisiT 

qveyanaSi, bolo wlebis 

ganmavlobaSi, daRmasvla gvqonda. 

es iyo ufro Sesustebuli daRmasvla 

da ar iyo mkveTri vardna, magram 

tendencia gauaresebisken 

midioda sxvadasxva faqtoris gamo. 

roca vsaubrobT mediis Tavisuflebasa 

da xelisuflebis pasuxismgeblobaze, 

Tundac „rusTavi 2- 

Tan” dakavSirebiT, kidev erTxel 

gavusvam xazs, rom xelisuflebis 

pasuxismgebloba axla swored im 

Taroze Semodebul saqmezea, romelic 

prokuraturaSia. unda CamoiRon 

es saqme Tarodan, Tu undaT, 

saerTod raime kuTxiT Candnen 

am procesSi mediis Tavisuflebis 

gulSematkivrad. Tumca sxva kuTxiTac 

xelisufleba TviTon qmnida 

da xels uwyobda media polarizebul 

garemos, mas ar aRmoaCnda politikuri 

neba, rom, Tavis droze, 

gaekeTebina damoukidebeli sazogadoebrivi 

mauwyebeli. yvelaferi 

procesebis gauaresebiT daiwyo 

swored sazogadoebriv mauwyebel- 

Tan dakavSirebiT... Cven rom gamogvsvloda 

damoukidebeli sazogadoebrivi 

mauwyebeli da agreTve 

ar daCagruliyo damoukidebeli 

media (am dros namdvilad iCagreboda, 

maT Soris, ormxrivad da amazec 

getyviT da mas ar Cagravda 

marto xelisufleba... amas xels 

uwyobda opoziciaSi myofi politikuri 

Zalebic), dRes naklebad 

vinerviulebdiT, vTqvaT, arsebul 

mdgomareobaze, gavlenebis kuTxiT 

sazogadoebriv azrze. pirveli gauareseba 

daiwyo sazogadoebrivi 

mauwyebliT, iq xelisuflebasTan 

afilirebuli menejmentis SeyvaniT 

da Semdeg nakarnaxevi gadawyvetilebebiT, 

romelmac namdvilad 

gaauaresa da daartya mcire regionul 

mediebs, Tundac sareklamo 

bazridan gamomdinare. katastroful 

klebas vxedavT damoukid- 

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aqimiZisa da daviT dvalis dava~ 

`roca vsaubrobT mediis Tavisuflebasa da 

xelisuflebis pasuxismgeblobaze, Tundac 

"rusTavi 2-Tan" dakavSirebiT, kidev erTxel 

gavusvam xazs, rom xelisuflebis 

pasuxismgebloba axla swored im Taroze 

Semodebul saqmezea, romelic 

prokuraturaSia. unda CamoiRon es saqme 

Tarodan, Tu undaT, saerTod raime kuTxiT 

Candnen am procesSi mediis Tavisuflebis 

gulSematkivrad~ 

ebel regionul mediaSi, es ar exeba 

mxolod televiziebs, faqtobrivad, 

is patara aqtorebi, romlebic 

wlebis ganmavlobaSi am qveyanaSi 

funqcionirebdnen, dRes yvelaze 

Raribad da dasustebulad 

grZnoben Tavs, radgan aseTi sistema 

Seqmna im sakanonmdeblo cvlilebam, 

romelic 2018 wlis dasawyisSi 

vetos daZlevis Sedegad 

miviReT. 

es iyo pirveli gauareseba, 

Semdgom moyva ukusvla da am tendenciiT 

mivdivarT. orive uwyobda 

xels: mas Semdeg, rac davebi 

daiwyo „rusTavi 2-Tan” dakavSirebiT, 

SeiZleboda logikuri mizezebis 

moZebnac, orma msxvilma telviziam 

valebi daagrova da Cveni xelisuflebis 

politikuri neba iyo, 

rom ori Zlieri partiuli moTamaSe, 

politikurad afilirebuli 

mediasaSualeba, yofiliyo SeRava- 

Tian pirobebSi: ar gadaexadaT dRg 

da arc saSemosavlo, arafers ixdidnen 

dedamiwaze. bolo informaciiT, 

rac Cven miviReT da mere 

aRar gangviaxlebia, 33 milions aRwevda 

„rusTavi 2-isa” da „imedis” 

erToblivi vali. ra moxdeba, 

Zalian mainteresebs, axla qibar 

xalvaSs unda Camoaweron es valebi? 

amitom iyvnen gaCerebulebi da 

amas elodeboda xelisufleba, rom 

kompania qibaris xelSi gadasuliyo 

da axla apatiebs?! qibari gadagvixdis 

im valebs, romelic dagrovilia 

amdeni wlis manZilze? es sakiTxebi 

unda idges iseTi qveynis dRis 

wesrigSi, rogoric Cven varT, sadac 

adamianebs cxovreba gaWirvebaSi 

uwevT, muSebi gvecodeba, mSeneblobidan 

gvivardeba 16 wlis bi- 

Wi da gvikvdeba, imitom rom mas sa- 

Wmeli ar hqonda... es sakiTxebi unda 

aqcentirdes da media amaze unda 

saubrobdes. ar SeiZleba aseTi 

araTanabari pirobebi... amaSi pasuxismgebloba 

ar aqvs namdvilad arc 

calke „imeds” da arc „rusTavi 2- 

s” da amaze pasuxismgebloba, ra 

Tqma unda, xelisuflebas aqvs, man 

Seqmna aseTi mediagaremo, romel- 

Sic damoukidebeli aqtorebi veRar 

muSaoben, imitom rom xelisuflebam 

ver iswavla wina xelisuflebis 

gamocdilebidan, rom ar 

muSaobs marTuli media da erTaderTi 

dacva SeiZleba, mxolod damoukidebeli 

media iyos. es TviTon 

xelisuflebas sWirdeba kontrolisTvis, 

Tu, ra Tqma, unda progresisken 

aris mimarTuli. 

unda mixvdnen, rom ufro metad 

daculia Seni qveyana, roca yvela 

Tanabar pirobebSi gyavs da mxolod 

partiul simbolur mesijebad 

dayofili sazogadoeba saSiSi da 

safrTxis Semcvlelia, aseve daucveli 

gare mtrebisgan. realurad 

rom fiqrobdes xelisufleba qveyanaze, 

dafiqrdeboda, magram jer 

aseTi politikuri mocemuloba 

aqvT, rom aravin fiqrobdes, msjelobdes 

da wina xelisuflebis 

Secdomebze swavlobdes. 

CemTvis „rusTavi 2" bolomde 

damoukidebeli ar iyo, Tumca konkretuli 

individebi yovelTvis 

cdilobdnen Tavisi saqmis gakeTebas 

da yvelgan arian damoukidebeli 

profesionalebi, Tundac „imedSi”, 

sazogadoebriv mauwyebelsa 

da „rusTavi 2-Sic”. es aris calke 

Jurnalisturi individualizmi 

da, ra Tqma unda, me maT ufro 

`ver iqneba samarTlianoba 

aRdgenili, roca 

vsaubrobT qibar xalvaSze, 

romelic Cveulebrivi 

Semsrulebeli da mona iyo 

mixeil saakaSvilis Tavis 

droze, roca is mivida 

`rusTavi 2-Si~. is TviTon 

iyo wamrTmevi am 

televiziis da mis xelSi 

dabrunebuli telekompania 

ver ganixileba 

samarTlianobis 

konteqstSi~ 

vgulSematkivrob, vidre partiulad 

afilirebul personebs. „rusTavi 

2" namdvilad iyo damoukidebeli 

xelisuflebisgan da swored 

amas vakvirdebiT Cven, ramdenad Se- 

Zleben isini am damoukideblobis 

SenarCunebas , rac iseT demokratiaSi, 

romelic Cven gvaqvs, Rirebulia 

da ratom vusvam amas xazs: 

Cven, me da Tqven, axla intervius 

imitom vwerT, rom sazogadoebam 

raRac Cvengan gaigos. roca Cven sazogadoebasTan 

ar varT zusti sax- 

eldebebSi, mas mere aRar esmis sinamdvileSi 

ra aris gamoxatvis 

Tavisufleba da ra aris realurad 

damoukidebeli media. 

jobia, rom Tavisi saxeli davarqvaT 

yvelafers, magram gavagebinoT 

sazogadoebas, ratom aris 

mniSnvelovani aseTi mediis Senar- 

Cuneba, Tundac aseTi tipis saredaqcio 

politikis SenarCuneba. 

axla gavagrZeloT meore Wril- 

Si, strasburgis gadawyvetilebeb- 

Si: rac wamikiTxavs, gavcnobilvar 

Zalian bevr saqmes gamoxatvis 

TavisuflebasTan mimarTebiT da 

umeteswilad rogorc me vicnob 

strasburgis sasamarTlos Semoqmedebas, 

mas upiratesoba miuniWebia 

swored gamoxatvis TavisuflebisTvis, 

imitom rom kerZo 

piris intersze ufro maRalia sazogadoebrivi 

interesi. 

_ roca sasworze gvidevs sak- 

uTrebis ufleba da gamoxatvis 

Tavisufleba, ra Tqma unda, upiratesi, 

xSir SemTxvevaSi, gamox- 

atvis Tavisuflebaa. swored es 

upiratesoba hqonda „rusTavi 2- 

s”, Tumca, gavrcelebuli infor- 

maciiT, sarCelis uzrunvelyofis 

procedurebTan 

dakavSirebiT 

„rusTavi 2-ma” saCivari evropul 

sasamarTloSi samarTloSi dagvianebiT warad- 

gina... 

_ rogorc informacia gvaqvs, 

vTqvaT, proceduruli sakiTxebis 

gamo ver moxvda msjelobis sagnad 

gamoxatvis Tavisufleba da, Sesabamisad, 

naTlad unda vTqvaT, rom 

strasburgis sasamarTlos ar umsjelia 

am or muxlze erTmaneTTan 

dakavSirebiT. ar umsjelia, rogor 

gadaekveTa kerZo piris ufleba 

gamoxatvis Tavisuflebas. amitom 

gvaqvs iseTi ganaCeni da, Sesabamisad, 

aravin unda ecados da danaSaulebrivi 

mcdelobaa, rom evropis 

adamianis uflebaTa sasamarTloze 

vTqvaT, ratom dadga aseTi Sedegi. 

Zalian zusti unda viyoT am 

gaSuqebaSi da sazogadoebas unda 

gavagebinoT, rom evropis adamianis 

uflebaTa sasamarTlos ar umsjelia 

da sasworze ar daudevs es 

ori ufleba, man mxolod imsjela 

`33 33 milions aRwevda "rusTavi 2-isa" da "imedis" 

erToblivi vali. ra moxdeba, Zalian 

mainteresebs, axla qibar xalvaSs unda 

Camoaweron es valebi? amitom iyvnen 

gaCerebulebi da amas elodeboda xelisufleba, 

rom kompania qibaris xelSi gadasuliyo da axla 

apatiebs?! qibari gadagvixdis im valebs, romelic 

dagrovilia amdeni wlis manZilze?~ 

kerZo uflebaze da es gadawyvetileba 

miiRo. 

_ karze gvaqvs momdgari 2020 

wlis arCevnebi, xelisufleba Zalauflebis 

SenarCunebas cdi- 

lobs da axla mas ufro metad 

aqvs Sansi, poziciebi gaimagros 

„rusTavi 2-is” gaCumebiT. ra pro- 

gnozis gakeTeba SegiZliaT da ra 

gavlena SeiZleba moaxdinos medi- 

aSi mimdinare procesebma arCevn- 

ebze? 

_ es xma bolomde ver CaixSoba, 

aucileblad iqneba sxvagan, Tumca 

imxela gavlenis _ aRar. radgan 

ori giganti media didi xania arsebobs 

bazarze, adamianebs yurebisa 

da moxmarebis Cveva aqvT, romelsac 

ase male veravin gadaagdebs. 

ra Tqma unda, nika gvaramia Se- 

Zlebs, xvalve gaakeTos (Tu moindomebs) 

axali arxi da xvalve Seu- 

Zlia uzrunvelyos erovnuli dafarva, 

es dRes SesaZlebelia. Cven 

raRac mcdelobebisa da brZolis 

procesSi raRacebs mivaRwieT. 

vimeoreb: nika gvaramias, Tu unda, 

xvalve gaxsnis arxs da ar mgonia, 

xelisuflebam bolomde saxe 

dakargos da amaSi vinmem, romelime 

politikurma Zalam xeli SeuSalos. 

magram aseve, ra Tqma unda, 

Zalian rTuli iqneba imis Tqma, 

rom is iseve miaRwevs sazogadoebriv 

azrze gavlenas, rogoradac 

aRwevda „rusTavi 2-is” SemTxveva- 

Si. es gamoricxulia, yvelaferi, 

mTeli Sroma rom Cados nebismierma, 

amas veravin miaRwevs, miT ufro, 

arCevnebamde. 

„nacionalur moZraobas” sazogadoebriv 

azrze gavlena aRar eqneba 

da axla es gavlena gadaxrilia 

xelisuflebis mxares, romelic 

Zalauflebis SenarCunebas cdilobs. 

amitom axla namdvilad ar 

unda gindodes adamians, rom isini 

avtoritarizmSi gadavidnen, maT- 

Tvis es procesi Zalian cudi iqneba. 

Tu daukvirdebian, mixeil saakaSvili 

da misi xelisufleba ar 

gadaurCenia aseT arCevans. Wiri 

Tavs ver damalavs, piriqiT, Sei- 

Zleba, uaresi moxdes, amaze fiqri 

sWirdeba xelisuflebas da me, 

rogorc am qveynis gulSematkivars, 

mainc visurvebdi, rom xelisuflebam 

SeinarCunos saxe. sinamdvileSi 

ki mis karg saxes qmnida 

iseTi „rusTavi 2", rogoric arsebobda, 

radgan am xelisuflebas 

mouwia mTeli es periodi aseTi 

gamkritikebeli hyoloda. Tu 

daufiqrdebian, mixvdebian, rom es 

maT aZlierebda da am kuTxiT, am 

mimarTulebiT unda ifiqron. imedi 

maqvs, damoukidebel patara 

xmebs mediaSi kidev ufro ar Seuqmnian 

safrTxeebs da aseve xelis 

SeSlas aravin daiwyebs axali mediis 

Seqmnisas. 2020 wlis arCevnebze 

am procesebs, ra Tqma unda, gavlena 

eqneba, radgan, kidev erTxel 

vambob: mZime politikuri kuTxiT 

seriozulad moakldeba sazogadoebriv 

azrze gavlena „nacionalur 

moZraobas”. 

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evrosasamarTlos 18 ivlisis gadawyvetilebam sazogadoeba 

isev orad gayo: nawili miiCnevs, rom „rusTavi 2-is” sare- 

daqcio politikis SecvliT qveynis evroatlantikuri kursi 

kiTxvis niSnis qveS dadgeba. nawili ki ambobs, rom aRniSnuli 

samauwyeblo kompaniis qibar xalvaSis xelSi gadasvla Cveu- 

lebrivi samarTlebrivi procesia da politikasTan, miT 

umetes, qveynis sagareo kursTan, kavSiri ar aqvs. „Tavisufali 

saqarTvelos” lider kaxa kukavas SefasebiT ki strasbur- 

gis gadawyvetileba mxolod imas Secvlis, rom „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” mTavari opoziciuri Zala veRar iqneba, radgan 

„rusTavi 2", rogorc kukava ambobs, Tavisufali sityvis oazi- 

si ki ara, yofili xelisuflebis partiuli prescentri iyo. 

amas garda, kukava erT sagulisxmo gancxadebasac akeTebs, anu 

misi TqmiT, briuselidan gacemulia davaleba, rom propor- 

ciul arCevnebamde qveyanaSi areuloba moxdes. 

vis da ratom awyobs areulo- 

ba? _ „qronika+“ „Tavisufali 

saqarTvelos” Tavmjdomaris in- 

tervius gTavazobT: 

_ batono kaxa, TqvenTan saubars 

„gavrilovis krizisze” vapirebdi, 

magram strasburgis sasa- 

marTlos 18 ivlisis gadawyvetilebam, 

rogorc ityvian, dRis wes- 

rigi Secvala. Sesabamisad, pirvel 

kiTxvas swored am konteqstSi 

dagisvamT, kerZod, „rusTavi 2-is” 

garSemo bolo dReebSi ganviTare- 

buli movlenebi „gavrilovis 

krizisis” erTgvari dagvirgvine- 

ba xom ar aris? 

_ ara, aranairad. am ori saqmis 

erTmaneTTan dakavSireba yvelanairad 

_ logikurad, qronologiurad 

Tu samarTlebrivad absurdulia. 

sakiTxis ase dasma „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” ramdenime marginalis 

insinuacia da bodviTi ideaa, 

ai, „rusTavi 2-is” daxurvis 

brZaneba putinma gascao. SemiZlia, 

dagisabuToT kidec, amas ratom 

vambob. 

_ cxadia, unda damisabuToT. 

ase rom, gismenT. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” garSemo procesebi 

2015 wels daiwyo, gavrilovi 

ki saqarTveloSi axla, anu 

2019-Si Camovida. Zveli berZnuli 

filosofiidan dawyebuli, ar Sei- 

Zleba, jer Sedegi dadges da mere 

_ mizezi. mizezi Tu ar aris, Sedegi 

ver dadgeba. 

_ cxadia, magram ratom gaviwy- 

debaT, rom „gavrilovis krizisis” 

erT-erTi akordi giorgi gabunias 

cnobili gancxadeba iyo. Sesabam- 

isad, pirveli kiTxvac swored am 

konteqstSi dagisviT. 

_ ras melaparakebiT, kaco? 

axla, gvaramiasaviT raRacebs nu 

bodavT! 

_ ukacravad, ras vbodav? 

_ Tqveni azriT, 18 ivlisi, roca 

strasburgs „rusTavi 2-is” saqmeze 

gadawyvetileba unda gamoetana, 

rodis dadginda? ra, ggoniaT, gabuniam 

putins rom agina, strasburgis 

sasamarTlom gadawyvetileba 

amitom gamoitana? _ diax, es gavrilovis 

vizitamde bevrad adre 

vicodiT. 

_ mokled, Tqveni azriT, gabu- 

nias gancxadebiT, viRacebis 

TvalSi samauwyeblo kompaniis mi- 

zanmimarTuli marginalizacia 

xom ar moxda? 

_ piriqiT, iciT, gabuniam putins 

ratom Seagina? _ minimum, bolo 

Tveebis ganmavlobaSi yvelam icoda 

da saidumlos aravisTvis warmoadgenda, 

rom strasburgi daaxloebiT 

aseT gadawyvetilebas gamoitanda, 

amitom ramdenime isterikianma 

adamianma aseTi zRapris dadgma 

gadawyvita, modi, putins davabraloT 

da vTqvaT, putini gvxuravso. 

rogor davabraloT? _ modi, 

SevaginoT da mere strasburgis 

sasamarTlo gadawyvetilebas rom 

gamoitans, es putins davabralo- 

To. ai, mTeli ambavi es iyo. 

piradad Tqven ar gexebaT, magram 

adamians, romelsac Jurnalistikasa 

da inteleqtze pretenzia 

18 

aqvs, Tan esmis, strasburgi da, 

zogadad, evropa ra aris, rogor 

unda gaifiqros, rom gadawyvetilebis 

miReba gabunias ginebis gamo 

SeuZlia? xalxi, romelic aseT 

raRacebs bodavda, saqarTveloSi 

80-iani wlebis bolos iyo da ar 

mgonia, 2019 wels seriozulad 

unda ganvixiloT, rom evrosasamarTlo, 

romelSic evropis 29 

qveyanaa gawevrianebuli da uglobalures 

sakiTxebs ixilavs, gadawyvetileba, 

Turme, imis gamo miiRo, 

gabuniam eTerSi rom Seigina! amaze 

seriozuli msjeloba, mgoni, adamianis 

inteleqts Seuracxyofs! 

_ mgoni, droa, adamianebma Seu- 

racxyofisa da agresiis gareSe 

visaubroT. hoda, martivad miTxariT: 

strasburgis gadawyvetileba 

qarTul politikaSi ras Secv- 

lis? zogi ambobs, amiT araTu 

qarTuli demokratia dasamarda, 

aramed „rusTavi 2-is” gareSe 

saqarTvelo rusul orbitaze 

dabrundebao. asea? 

_ yvelaferi mxolod dadebiTisken 

Seicvleba. amasTan, erTi 

argumenti mainc miTxariT, demokratia 

ratom dasamarda? „rusTavi 

2" demokratia arasodes yofila 

da is Cveulebrivi partiuli, „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” prescentri, 

anu zustad iseTive arxi iyo, 

rogoric saqarTveloSi kidev ramdenime 

partias aqvs. „rusTavi 2-ze” 

aranairi sityvis Tavisufleba ar 

yofila! magaliTad, CemTvis „rusTavi 

2" 2007 wlis 7 noebris Semdeg 

daketilia. aseve yvela im adamianisTvis, 

vinc mixeil saakaSvils 

ar eTanxmeba. Tu saakaSvili mogwonda, 

migiwvevdnen, magram Tu masze 

odnav kritikul rames ityodi, 

„rusTavi 2" samudamod dagexureboda. 

aqedan gamomdinare, sircxvilia, 

romel sityvis Tavisuflebaze 

vlaparakobT? 

sxva ambavia, rom yvela politikur 

Zalas, maT Soris, „nacionalur 

moZraobasac”, aqvs ufleba, 

partiuli televizia hqondes. Tu 

„patriotTa alianss” aqvs, ratomac 

ara _ „nacionalur moZraobasac” 

hqondes! vin uSlis? _ adges 

da axla gaakeTos! sxva qveynebisgan 

gansxvavebiT, am mxriv saqarTvelo- 

Si kanonmdebloba Zalian liberaluria 

_ SegiZlia, arxis avtorizacia 

or kviraSi aiRo. amas garda, 

Tanamedrove teqnologiebis 

wyalobiT, Tu aTi wlis win televiziis 

Seqmnas aTi milioni undoda, 

dRes televizias xalxi lamis 

mobiluri telefonebiT akeTebs. 

amitom im fulis patronebisTvis, 

rac „nacionalur moZraobas” aqvs, 

problema erTi ki ara, aTi „rus- 

Tavi 2-is” dafuZnebac ar aris! 

_ asea Tu ise, qveyanaSi iseTi 

viTarebaa, rom deda Svils ar aiy- 

vans xelSi. igive „rusTavi 2-is” 

skandali axal WrilSi gadavida _ 

irakli oqruaSvili amtkicebs, 

rom qibar xalvaSi „rusTavi 2-is” 

minimaluri myidveli iyo da, si- 

namdvileSi, arxi misi sakuTrebaa. 

_ es Cveulebrivi sasamarTlo 

davaa da mere, ra moxda? iciT, ro- 

`gvaramiasaviT 

kaxa kukava: `gacemulia 

davaleba, rom 

proporciul arCevnebamde 

saqarTveloSi, nebismieri 

provokaciis fasad, 

areuloba moxdes!~ 

gor aris? _ roca es saqme daiwyo, 

urTmeliZis sasamarTlos vakritikebdi 

da im gadawyvetilebaze, 

romelic miiRo, samarTlebrivi 

TvalsazrisiT, dResac Zalian bevri 

pretenzia maqvs, magram bodvaa, 

roca dRes gabunias ginebas, putins, 

lavrovsa da oqruaSvils erTmaneTTan 

akavSireben. saqarTvelo- 

Si erTi adamiani mainc aris, romelic 

uaryofs, rom qibar xalvaSs 

„rusTavi 2" qurdulad „aaxies”? 

_ nurc imas daiviwyebT, rom xa- 

lvaSmac es telearxi, Tavis dro- 

ze, viRacas „qurdulad aaxia”. 

_ Zmao, asprocentiani xarT, 

magram „rusTavi 2" amas ambobs Tu 

imas, sityvis Tavisufleba izRudeba 

da Cveni sakuTreba wagvarTveso? 

rasac Tqven ambobT, mec, daaxloebiT, 

mag poziciaze var, anu samarTlianobis 

aRdgena maSin iqneba, 

roca „rusTavi 2" xalvaSs ki 

ara, Tavdapirvel damfuZneblebs 

daubrundeba! meore pretenzia ki 

isaa, rom samoqalaqo kodeqsis 74- 

e muxli yvela analogiur saqmeze 

unda iqnes gamoyenebuli, radgan 

2004-2012 wlebSi „nacionalurma 

moZraobam” qoneba Zalian bevr adamians 

aaxia! mokled, Tu samarTlianobis 

aRdgenis kuTxiT mivdivarT, 

maSin es Sedegi yvela saqmeze 

unda dadges, magram xom yvelam 

viciT, rom tariel oniani da jaba 

ioseliani rom „axevdnen” qonebas, 

„rusTavi 2-ic” kanonier mflobels 

ase aaxies, Tu qibar xalvaSis 

naTqvamSi eWvi gvepareba? kidev 

vimeoreb: ki batono, sadavoa, „rusTavi 

2" xalvaSisaa Tu dvalisa da 

aqimiZis. 

ìciT, gabuniam putins ratom Seagina? - minimum, 

bolo Tveebis ganmavlobaSi yvelam icoda da 

saidumlos aravisTvis warmoadgenda, rom 

strasburgi daaxloebiT aseT gadawyvetilebas 

gamoitanda, amitom ramdenime isterikianma 

adamianma aseTi zRapris dadgma gadawyvita, 

modi, putins davabraloT da vTqvaT, putini 

gvxuravso. rogor davabraloT? - modi, 

SevaginoT da mere strasburgis sasamarTlo 

gadawyvetilebas rom gamoitans, es putins 

davabraloTo. ai, mTeli ambavi es iyo~ 

_ anu strasburgis gadawyvetilebiT, 

samarTlianoba ar aRmd- 

gara, ara? 

_ diax, geTanxmebiT. samarTlianobis 

aRdgena damatebiTi RonisZiebebis 

ganxorcielebas ukavSirdeba. 

amis Sesaxeb araerTxel miTqvams, 

„Tavisufali saqarTvelo” kampaniis 

dawyebasac gegmavs, rom samarTlianobis 

aRdgena erTiani 

standartiT moxdes da ara _ Ser- 

CeviT, radgan SerCeviTobis dros 

samarTlianoba didi kiTxvis niSnis 

qveS dgas! 

_ mokled, batono kaxa, „ocneba” 

„nacionalebis” gzas agr- 

Zelebs da qveyanaSi SerCeviT sa- 

marTals, ase vTqvaT, lobirebs? 

_ ra Tqma unda. dRes saqarTveloSi 

sasamarTlo sistema krizisSia 

da es xelisuflebis erT-er- 

Ti seriozuli Cavardnaa, razec, 

mgoni, „qarTuli ocnebis” zogier- 

Ti wevric ar daobs. Sesabamisad, 

arc danarCeni sazogadoeba daobs, 

rom samarTlianobis aRdgena araTu 

ar dawyebula, aramed, sawyis 

stadiazea „gakvexebuli” da es WeSmaritebaa! 

_ mmarTveli gundi, samwuxarod, 

ase ar fiqrobs. metic, strasburgis 

18 ivlisis gadawyvetilebis 

Semdeg xelisuflebam brtyel- 

brtyeli gancxadebebi gaakeTa, ai, 

evrosasamarTlomac daadastura, 

rom saqarTveloSi sasamarTlo 

Tavisufalia da am kuTxiT prob- 

lemebi ar arsebobso. 

_ iciT, es „ocnebis” rogori 

Secdomaa? _ Tavis droze, Tu ar 

vcdebi, taleiranma Tqva, _ es ufro 

metia, vidre danaSaulio. „ocneba” 

krizisSi imis gamo Sevida, 

rom ar undoda, is realoba daenaxa, 

rasac Cven, yvelani vxedavdiT. 

SeiZleba, rusTavelis gamzirze 

aqcia gamarginalda da iq 50 mocekvaveRaa 

darCenili, magram es imas 

ar niSnavs, rom qveyanaSi protesti 

aRar arsebobs. murusiZe isev 

imden adamians ar moswons, ram- 

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raRacebs nu bodavT!~ 

densac erTi Tvis win ar moswonda. 

amitom xelisuflebis Zalian 

mZime Secdoma iqneba, Tu CaTvlis, 

rusTavelze xalxi aRar dadis da 

ganwyoba Secvliliao. iq xalxi imis 

gamo ar dadis, rom „nacebis”, bokeriasa 

da berZeniSvilis gverdiT 

dgoma ar unda. 

_ batono kaxa, protesti aqam- 

dec iyo da, bunebrivia, arc amis 

mere gamqrala, Tumca yvelafris 

erTgvar katalizatorad gavrilovis 

viziti iqca. Tqveni SefasebiT, 

20 ivniss, realurad, ra mox- 

da? 

_ Cemi azriT, zustad igive moxda, 

rac 2007 wels, roca oqruaSvilis 

dapatimrebas masobrivi manifestaciebis 

dawyeba moyva. ise 

arasodes CamiTvlia, oqruaSvils 

imxela avtoriteti hqonda, rom 

maSin quCaSi 30 aTasi adamiani misi 

siyvarulis gamo gamovarda. ubralod, 

girgvlianis, robaqiZis, sasamarTlo 

sistemis, kerZo sakuTrebis 

Selaxvis, eklesiaze Setevisa 

da kidev bevri sxva mizezis gamo 

xalxSi Zalian didi protesti arsebobda. 

es protesti gubdeboda 

da oqruaSvilis dapatimreba, ubralod, 

naperwkali aRmoCnda. 

zustad igive moxda 20 ivnissac 

_ gavrilovi naperwkali iyo. bolo 

wlebSi dagrovili protestis 

erT-erTi msxvili maprovocirebeli 

ki sasamarTloa, anu xalxma 

„ocnebas”, Cemi azriT, murusiZis 

„gapraveba” ar apatia! 

_ SesaZloa, arc uamisobaa, ma- 

gram iziarebT Tu ara versias, 

rom gavrilovis TemasTan dakav- 

SirebiT „ocnebis” garkveuli 

frTa da opoziciis nawili SeT- 

anxmebulad moqmedebda? 

_ diax, am versias mTlianad viziareb. 

_ ai, magaliTad, irma inaSvili 

Riad ambobs, „ocneba” xelisu- 

flebis gadabarebas bokeriasTvis 

cdilobso. amaze ras ityviT, ba- 

tono kaxa? 

_ zogadad, eqspertebic, Jurnalistebic 

da politikosebic 

yovelTvis erT Secdomas uSveben 

_ konspirologiaSi ar unda CavvardeT. 

iciT, ras vgulisxmob? _ 

roca vambobT, moskovma ase gadawyvita 

an vaSingtonma viRac dasva, 

anu gasagebia, rom viRacas raRac 

unda da raRacas cdilobs, magram 

ar unda CavTvaloT, rom es, apriori, 

ase moxdeba. 

ki batono, bokerias vaSington- 

Si misi raRac mfarvelebisa da aseve 

xelisuflebaSi misi lobistebis 

mxridan aris mcdeloba, rom 

xelisuflebis misTvis gadabareba 

moxdes, magram es simarTlis bolo 

instancia ar aris. 

_ „ocnebaSi” bokerias lo- 

bistebi vin arian? 

_ „ocnebaSi” bokerias lobistebi 

is adamianebi arian, romlebic 

mis liberalur Rirebulebebs 

iziareben. 

_ erT-erTi aseTi adamiani, Sei- 

Zleba, Tamar CugoSvili iyos? 

_ gvarebze Cacikvla ar minda, 

magram „ocnebaSi” aseTi adamiani 

bevria _ isini erTi wridan modian 

da erTnairi warsuli aqvT. 

„ocnebis” liberalur frTas, 

SesaZloa, gavrilovis Temis provocireba 

ar gaukeTebia, magram 

roca yvelaferi es daiwyo, aRkve- 

Taze ki ar imuSava, aramed am kriziss 

siamovnebiT uyurebda, radgan 

gavrilovis krizisi „ocnebis” sxva 

frTas dabralda. davuSvaT, me var 

xelisuflebis erT-erTi lideri 

da am dros ra unda gavakeTo _ 

aseTi „Cepes” dros „feisbukze” unda 

vposto Tu sanam sxva damaswrebs, 

mivide da gavrilovs vuTxra, 

Tu SeiZleba, saqarTvelos parlamentis 

Tavmjdomaris savarZlidan 

abrZandiT, radgan es didi skandaliao? 

aseve gundSic unda daayenos 

sakiTxi, xalxo, ras SvrebiTo? 

_ CugoSvilma „feisbukze”, 

egeb, mizanmimarTulad daposta? 

_ esec konspirologiaa. me imaze 

vsaubrob, rac davinaxe, rom Cugo- 

Svilma imis iniciativa ar gamoiCina, 

rom tribunaze asvla elene 

xoStariasTvis daeswro, anu mas 

klasiT xoStariam ajoba. eg gundi 

sul ar miyvars da mimaCnia, rom 

saqarTvelos mteria, magram faqtia: 

„evropulma saqarTvelom” 

„ocnebas” ajoba, Torem gavrilovis 

skandalis lokalizacia xuT 

wuTSi SeiZleboda. ai, magaliTad, 

parlamentis darbazSi me rom vyofiliyavi, 

rogorc umravlesobis 

warmomadgeneli, gadawyvetilebas 

30 wamSi miviRebdi. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, is versiac arsebobs, 

rom opozicia da „ocnebis” 

raRac frTa erTmaneTs Ss min- 

istris winaaRmdegac gaurigdnen, 

anu ratomaa mTavari moTxovna 

gaxarias gadadgoma da ara _ mTe- 

li ministrTa kabinetis? 

_ daviwyoT imiT, rom es moTxovna 

araTu araseriozuli, aramed, 

dausabuTebelicaa. rac Seexeba 

imas, rom „ocnebis” raRac jgufebi 

gaxarias gadadgomas, minimum, ar 

ewinaaRmdegebian, amas erTi axsna 

aqvs, anu milionjer miTqvams da 

axlac gavimeoreb: dRevandeli xelisufleba 

SevardnaZis mTavrobas 

hgavs da ara _ miSas mTavrobas, 

romelic erTi gundi iyo. yovel 

SemTxvevaSi, miSas mTavroba kritikul 

situaciaSi mainc monoli- 

Turi iyo. 

gamocdili Jurnalisti xarT 

da kargad gemaxsovrebaT, rom SevardnaZis 

mTavrobaSi 9 gundi iyo. 

„ocnebaSic” asea da yvela es gundi 

ivaniSvilis mimarT loialuria, 

magram erTmaneTis mimarT gundurobis 

gancda ar gaaCniaT. am 

Sida konkurenciidan gamomdinare, 

„ocnebaSi” arseboben mTeli rigi 

gundebi, romlebic, minimum, winaa- 

Rmdegni ar iqnebian, Tu gaxarias 

„moasrialeben”, radgan raRac etapze 

gaxaria ivaniSvilis favoriti 

gaxda da mis xelSi Zalauflebis 

koncentracia moxda. ar vici, 

ivaniSvili ramdenad moaxerxebs 

da, saerTod, amis dro ramdenad 

darCa, magram es klanuri dayofa 

Tavad ivaniSvilma unda aRmofxvras. 

_ frazaSi _ „ivaniSvils ramde- 

ni dro darCa” ra igulisxmeT? 

_ mTel msoflioSi asea: kardinaluri 

reformebis gatareba 

pirvel vadaSi, anu maSin unda moaxerxo, 

roca legitimacia gaqvs. meore 

vada ki am reformebis Sedegebis 

momtania. dRes xelisuflebis 

legitimuroba didi kiTxvis niSnis 

qveS dgas da, rbilad rom vTqvaT, 

„ocneba” Zalian moryeulia. aqedan 

gamomdinare, mas kardinaluri gadawyvetilebebis 

miReba gauWirdeba. 

_ „ocnebam” yvelaze kardi- 

naluri gadawyvetileba miiRo _ 

proporciul arCevnebze dasTan- 

xmda. 

_ ki batono, es kardinaluri 

gadawyvetilebaa, magram proporciul 

arCevnebze wamosvla mtkivneuli 

gadawyvetileba ki ara, piriqiT, 

daTmoba iyo. iciT, kardinalur 

gadawyvetilebaSi ras vgulisxmob? 

_ ai, magaliTad, xalxi „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” liderebis 

dapatimrebas iTxovs. 

_ ukacravad, magram Tu faqti 

ar arsebobs, ase vinmes dapatim- 

reba rogor SeiZleba? 

_ faqtis meti ra aris, ra dagemarTaT? 

_ gvamebs pirdapir univermaRis 

saxuravze yridnen! „nacionalur 

moZraobaSi”, minimum, 

asi adamiania iseTi, romlis dapatimrebisTvisac 

iseTi saqmeebi arsebobs, 

romelTa gamoZiebas 24 

saaTi unda! mokled, legitimaciis 

problemaa, anu es xalxi 2013, 2014 

an 2015-Si rom daepatimrebinaT, 

amas qveynis SigniT da maincdamainc 

arc qveynis gareT skandali ar 

moyveboda. axla ki vxedavT, rom 

gamoZieba pirvelive meliaze gai- 

Weda. 

_ anu melias daWeris momxre 

iyaviT? 

_ ara, momxre ar viyavi da mimaCnia, 

rom arasworad gakeTda, Tumca 

yvelafers Tavisi dasawyisi da 

logika aqvs. bevrjer miTqvams da 

axlac gavimeoreb: damniSneT rigiT 

prokurorad sami TviT, meti ar 

minda da yvelas daviWer, vinc saWiroa, 

magram xelisufleba „nacionalebis” 

Temas ase ar uyurebda, 

vinc dasaWeria, daviWiroo. ubralod, 

eTamaSeboda, vinc Wkvianad moiqceva, 

ar daviWiroT da Tu vinme 

cudad moiqceva, davemuqroTo. am 

politikam ki mTliani marTlmsajulebis 

sistemis diskreditacia 

gamoiwvia. 

_ yvelafer zemoTqmulidan 

gamomdinare, batono kaxa, qveyana- 

Si politikuri krizisia Tu ara? 

_ diax, qveyanaSi Zalian Rrma 

politikuri krizisia, rac Zalian 

safrTxiloa. 

_ ratom? 

_ bevri amas ver acnobierebs 

imitom, rom xelisuflebaSi Zalian 

axalgazrda kadrebi arian da yvelafers 

lokalurad uyureben, anu 

saerTo suraTis mxolod erT 

fragments xedaven. piradad me ki 

`rusTavi 2-ze~ aranairi sityvis Tavisufleba ar yofila! 

magaliTad, CemTvis `rusTavi 2" 2007 wlis 7 noebris Semdeg 

daketilia. aseve yvela im adamianisTvis, vinc mixeil 

saakaSvils ar eTanxmeba~ 

yvelaferi imas magonebs, rac 1991 

wels xdeboda _ maSin qveynis garedan 

gasces davaleba, saqarTvelo 

unda daangrioTo da amisTvis bolo 

vada 22 dekemberi iyo, raTa 

qveyanas rogorme dsT-Si Sesvlaze 

moewera xeli. samwuxarod, qveynis 

moRalateebi da damqcevebi gamoCndnen, 

romlebmac es davaleba Seasrules: 

zogma rkonis xeobaSi 

jari gaiyvana, zogma quCebi gadaketa. 

mokled, saswaulebi akeTes. 

axlac gacemulia davaleba, rom 

proporciul arCevnebamde saqar- 

TveloSi areuloba nebismieri 

provokaciis fasad unda moxdes. am 

davalebas „nacebmac” moaweres 

xeli da „evronacebmac”. sanam proporciuli 

arCevnebi ar Catardeba 

da qveyanas legitimuri xelisufleba 

ar eyoleba, CaTvaleT, rom 

am erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi denTis 

kasrze visxdebiT! 

_ davaleba, romelzec saub- 

robT, CrdiloeTidan gaica Tu 

dasavleTidan? 

_ ar vici. ise, dResac rTuli 

saTqmelia, aseTi davaleba, Tavis 

droze, saidan gaica. 1991-92 wlebis 

movlenebs zogi CrdiloeTs 

abralebs, zogic _ dasavleTs. 

zogadad, saerTaSoriso lobebze 

saubari rTulia, magram modiT, 

vTqvaT, rom es davaleba, minimum, 

amsterdamidanaa gacemuli. is ki, 

Tu visTan aris amsterdami angariSvaldebuli, 

calke kvleva- 

Ziebis sagania! 

_ gavyveT am versias _ amsterdams 

saqarTveloSi areuloba ra- 

tom unda awyobdes? 

_ jer erTi, amsterdami yoveldRe 

akeTebs gancxadebas, rom vadamdeli 

arCevnebi unda Catardes. 

meorec, proporciuli arCevnebi 

imas niSnavs, rom „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” araTu xelisuflebaSi 

mova, aramed mTavari opoziciuri 

Zalac veRar iqneba da marginalizaciis 

gzas daadgeba. 

simarTle giTxraT, personalurad 

aravis arafers verCi, magram 

aba, „nacionaluri moZraobis” deputatebs 

gadaxedeT _ arafriT 

gamorCeulebi arian da gekiTxebiT, 

es partia mTavari opoziciuri 

Zala ratom gaxda? _ imitom, rom 

mediaSi, „rusTavi 2-is” saxiT, monopolia 

hqonda. proporciul 

arCevnebSi „nacebi”, ra Tqma unda, 

blomad xmas miiReben _ „rusTavi 

2-is” gareSe, es, albaT, 10-12% 

iqneba, magram xmebs sxva partiebic 

miiReben da „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

damTavrdeba! 

es saakaSvilma yvelaze kargad 

icis. amitomac aris, rom yoveldRe 

isterikas marTavs da proporciuli 

arCevnebis Catareba ar unda, 

anu cdilobs, rom qveyana proporciul 

arCevnebamde ar mivides. 

_ sxvaTa Soris, vadamdelis 

winaaRmdeg arc bokeriaa. yovel 

SemTxvevaSi, ganacxada, kargi iqne- 

ba, Tu vadamdeli 2020-is gazafx- 

ulze Catardebao. amas azri eqne- 

ba? 

_ 2020-is gazafxulze vadamdelis 

Catareba imas niSnavs, rom 

proporciul sistemaze cvlilebebi 

am Semodgomaze unda Sevides. aseTi 

tipis vadamdeli, ra Tqma unda, 

iseTi katastrofuli ar iqneba. 

saakaSvili ki imas iTxovs, rom vadamdeli 

moqmedi saarCevno sistemiT 

Catardes, rac qveyanaSi isev 

polarizebul klimats datovebs. 

ise, vadamdelis gazafxulze Catarebis 

azri ar mesmis, roca isedac 

arCevnebamde ramdenime Tvea dar- 

Cenili. zogadad, vadamdeli maSin 

tardeba, roca qveyanaSi krizisia 

da viTareba aRar iTmens. 

_ raki gazafxulze vadamdelis 

winaaRmdegi ar aris, e. i., bokerias 

raRac mizani aqvs, ara? 

_ ra Tqma unda, aqvs. metic, 

bokerias xelisuflebasTan urTierTobaSi 

Tavisi koziri uWiravs 

_ „ocneba” parlamentSi, misi partiis 

gareSe, sam meoTxedze mets 

ver agrovebs. aqedan gamomdinare, 

bokeria cdilobs, rom xelisuflebisgan 

garantia miiRos, radgan 

masac, daaxloebiT, iseTi problema 

aqvs, rac „nacmoZraobas”, anu 

misi xmebic absoluturad ararelevanturia 

_ arCevnebis oficialuri 

Sedegebi da sazogadoebis ganwyoba 

erTmaneTs ar emTxveva. amis 

miuxedavad, dRes bokerias 20 mandati 

aqvs. arada, arCevnebi samarTlianad 

rom Catardes, sam mandatze 

mets ver aiRebs. 

_ „ocnebis” xmebi releva- 

turia? 

_ ra Tqma unda, ara! yovel 

SemTxvevaSi, Cemi daTvliT arCevnebi 

iseT garemoSi rom Catardes, 

rogoric, magaliTad, 90-ianebis 

bolos arsebobda, „ocneba”, biZina 

ivaniSvilis xazinis gaTvaliswinebiT, 

maqsimum, 20-22%-s aiRebs, „nacionaluri 

moZraoba” _ 10-12%-s, 

bokerias partia ki _ 3-5%-s. 

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`gaxaria, WikaiZisgan gansxvavebiT, 

strasburgSi adamianis ufleba- 

nene injgia 

Ta evropulma sasamarTlom „rus- 

nika 591 71 39 98 Tavi 2-is” saqmeze gadawyvetileba 

18 ivliss gamoacxada. strasbur- 

gis sasamarTlos gancxadebiT, „rusTavi 2-Tan” mimarTebiT adamianis 

uflebaTa evropuli konvenciis arc erTi muxli ar dar- 

Rveula, maT Soris, arc samarTliani sasamarTlos ufleba. 

amasTanave, strasburgis sasamarTlom gaauqma saqarTvelos 

uzenaesi sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsrulebis SemaCerebe- 

li meqanizmi. kerZod, 2017 wlis 2 marts saqarTvelos uzenaesi 

sasamarTlos didma palatam telekompania „rusTavi 2" qibar xal- 

vaSs miakuTvna. imave wlis 3 marts ki, „rusTav 2-is” mimarTvis 

safuZvelze, strasburgis sasamarTlom uzenaesi sasamarTlos 

gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba SeaCera. swored am aRsrulebis Se- 

Cereba gaauqma strasburgis sasamarTlom. 

strasburgis 

sasamarTlos 

aRni 

niSnul gadawyvetilebas azrTa 

sxvadasxvaoba moyva. ramdenad sa- 

marTliani iyo evrosasamarTlos 

gadawyvetileba? iyo Tu ara 

xelisuflebis interesebSi qibar 

xalvaSisTvis telekompaniis dabruneba 

da ra safrTxeebs Seuqmnis 

qveyanas „rusTavi 2-is” arsebuli 

saredaqcio politikis cv- 

lileba? 

am da sxva mniSvnelovan Teme- 

bze „qronika+” politolog nika 

CitaZes esaubra: 

_ batono nika, strasburgis 

sasa 

samarTlos gadawyvetilebas 

„rusTavi 2-Tan” dakavSirebiT gan- 

sxvavebuli Sefasebebi moyva. 

mmarTveli gundis warmomadgenlebi 

acxadeben, rom es iyo sa- 

marTliani gadawyvetileba, riTac 

dadasturda, rom saqarTveloSi 

sasamarTlo samarTlo miukerZoebelia, opo- 

ziciis garkveuli nawilidan ki 

acxadeben, rom ivaniSvilma stras- 

burgis sasamarTlos mosyidvac ki 

SeZlo, ras fiqrobT aRniSnul 

gadawyvetilebaze? 

_ Cemi azriT, strasburgis sasamarTlos 

gadawyvetileba, ra Tqma 

unda, yovlad usamarTlo iyo. am 

SemTxvevaSi aRsaniSnavia is faqti, 

rom 7 mosamarTlidan 4 iyo postsabWoTa 

qveynebidan, 1 ki germaniidan. 

Cven viciT, rom germania, tradiciulad, 

ruseTis mokavSirea, 

dResac ki, roca ganixileba gazsadeni 

„CrdiloeT nakadi 2-is” ganxorcielebis 

sakiTxi. garda amisa, 

garkveul safuZvlian eWvs badebs 

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebis 

gancxadebebi, saidanac Canda, rom 

TiTqos maT winaswar icodnen, Tu 

ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebda evropis 

sabWos sasamarTlo. biZina 

ivaniSvilma ramdenime dRiT adre 

ganacxada: ra gadawyvetilebac ar 

unda miiRos strasburgis sasamarTlom, 

me mis gadawyvetilebas 

pativs vcemo. gasagebia, rom man, 

garkveulwilad, aRniSnuli gadawyvetilebis 

Sesaxeb winaswar icoda. 

amasTanave, aucilebelia gavixsenoT 

ruseTis saxelmwifo dumis 

deputat sergei lavrovis gancxadebebi 

„rusTavi 2-Tan” dakavSirebiT, 

_ is acxadebda: SevisyidoT 

„rusTavi 2" da a. S., anu TviTon 

ruseTic iyo dainteresebuli arxis 

daxurviT, yovel SemTxvevaSi, 

maTTvis mTavaria, am arxis gadacemebis 

Sinaarsi Seicvalos, maT Soris, 

sainformacio gadacemebis. es 

aris erT-erTi mTavari faqtori, 

amitomac mgonia, rom xSirad saqarTvelos 

winaSe Tavad evropelebi, 

dasavleTi codavs. rac Seexeba 

evropis sabWos, erT-erT magaliTs 

moviyvan: 1994-1996 wlebSi ruseTma 

CeCeni xalxis genocidi ganaxorciela, 

1996 wels, omis damTavrebis 

Semdeg ki, ruseTi evropis sab- 

WoSi miiRes. an Tundac gavixsenoT 

is faqti, rom ruseTi saqarTvelos 

Sida saqmeebSi, afxazeTis konfliqtSi 

Caeria da afxazeTSi eTnikuri 

wmenda moawyo, miuxedavad amisa, 

ruseTi didi rvianis wevri gaxda. 

evropis saparlamento asambleam 

2001 wels ruseTs aRudgina 

xmis micemis ufleba, manamde CeCneTSi 

mimdinare movlenebi dagmo 

da viTom formalurad Seuwyvita 

xmis micemis ufleba, Tumca mainc 

aRudgina. gavixsenoT, sxva korumpirebuli 

organizaciebi, igive 

saerTaSoriso olimpiuri komiteti, 

im qmedebebis miuxedavad, rac 

ruseTma CeCneTisa da saqarTvelos 

winaaRmdeg ganaxorciela, ruseTs 

neba darTes, rom 2014 wels zam- 

Tris olimpiada Caetarebina. ruse- 

Tis mxridan saqarTveloze ganxorcielebuli 

2008 wlis agresiis 

Semdeg, „fifam” miiRo gadawyvetileba, 

ruseTSi Catarebuliyo msoflio 

Cempionati. bevri aseTi faqtoria, 

romlis mixedviTac Segvi- 

Zlia vTqvaT, rom, samwuxarod, 

dasavleTic ar aris idealuri da 

xSirad Tvals xuWavs ruseTis 

ukanono qmedebaze an pirdapir aris 

CarTuli am procesebSi imitom, 

rom Cven viciT, evropaSi Zalian 

bevri saxelmwifo Cinovniki iyideba. 

amis erT-erTi magaliTia germaniis 

yofili federaluri kancleri 

gerhard Srioderi, romelic 

„gazpromis” aqcioneria da romelmac 

ramdenjerme antiqarTuli 

gancxadebac gaakeTa. magaliTad, 

man putins wminda wylis demokrati 

uwoda. rac Seexeba evropis sabWos 

sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebas, 

maT 2 weli hqondaT imisTvis, 

rom Sesabamisi gadawyvetileba mieRoT, 

aqedan gamomdinare, meti 

dro iyo imisTvis, rom am gadawyvetilebaSi 

Careuliyvnen, winaaRmdeg 

SemTxvevaSi, es gadawyvetileba 

absoluturad absurdulia. is 

adamianebi, romlebic ukanono gadawyvetilebas 

iReben, unda amxilon. 

_ am pirobebSi, rodesac dasav- 

leTisken da dasavluri Rirebulebebisken 

miviswrafiT, ramdenad 

sworia imis mtkiceba, rom stras- 

burgis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba 

ukanono iyo, rom sasamarT- 

lo moisyides? azaralebs Tu ara 

es saxelmwifo interesebs? 

_ Cemi azriT, msgavsi gancxadebebi 

saxelmwifo interesebs ar 

azaralebs imitom, rom am SemTxvevaSi 

ar aris saubari imaze, rom 

mTlianobaSi evropa, amerika da 

dasavleTi cudia. ubralod, Cven 

vsaubrobT garkveul naklovanebebze, 

romelic am SemTxvevaSi arsebobs. 

pirvel rigSi, Cven Cveni 

erovnuli interesebi unda davicvaT. 

rodesac sxvadasxva saerTa- 

Soriso konferenciaSi vmonawileobdi, 

evropeli eqspertisgan movismine, 

rom isini Cven gvadana- 

Saulebdnen omis dawyebaSi. me Sevxvdi 

rogorc oficialur pirebs, 

aseve politologebs; evropis sab- 

WoSi 2006 wels msgavsi magaliTi 

mqonda, roca ruseTs icavdnen 

evropeli politologebi Tu oficialuri 

pirebi. ubralod, am Temas 

Zalian ar CavuRrmavdebi. erTi 

ram cxadia: Cven unda davicvaT 

saqarTvelos pozicia. Tu Cveni 

nika CitaZe: 

`dasavleTi 

saqarTvelos 

winaSe 

codavs~ 

mokavSiris qmedeba arasworia, ra 

Tqma unda, esec unda vamxiloT. 

piradad ase mimaCnia sworad. Cven 

ar vambobT, rom mTlianad evropaa 

korumpirebuli, Cven vambobT, rom 

rig SemTxvevaSi is evropac ar aris 

marTali. magaliTad, arian vaipolitikosebi 

da vaipolitologebi, 

romlebic saqarTvelos adana- 

Sauleben omis dawyebaSi. msgavs 

gancxadebebs aucilebelia Sesabamisi 

pasuxebi gaeces. Cveni erovnuli 

Rirseba da interesebi unda 

davicvaT, es aris realoba. ar mgonia, 

aman Cveni qveynis interesi daazianos, 

piriqiT, am SemTxvevaSi 

evropas mivuTiTebT, rom evropis 

sabWos konkretulma mosamarTleebma 

xeli Seuwyves saqarTveloSi 

Tavisufali azris CaxSobas, _ es 

aucileblad unda iTqvas. 

_ Tqven axseneT, rom evropis 

sabWos konkretulma mosamarTleebma 

xeli Seuwyves saqarTvelo- 

Si Tavisufali azris CaxSobas, 

`dRevandeli sasamarTlos pirobebSi mimaCnia, 

rom oqruaSvils sasamarTlo procesis mogeba 

gauWirdeba. qibar xalvaSis advokatma da ukve 

"rusTavi 2-is" direqtorma paata saliam 

ganacxada, rom dokumenti, romelic irakli 

oqruaSvilma warmoadgina yalbiao, aqedan 

gamomdinare, am sasamarTlos pirobebSi rTulia, 

xelisuflebasTan daaxloebul adamianebs mougo 

procesi. am SemTxvevaSi gamosavali ufro 

xelisuflebis cvlileba mgonia~ 

Tumca mmarTveli gundidan vis- 

menT, rom es ar aris sityvis Tav- 

isuflebis SezRudvis mcdeloba, 

rom es iyo or subieqts Soris 

dava. konkretulad sad dainaxeT 

xelisuflebisa da uSualod biZ- 

ina ivaniSvilis interesi, rom 

„rusTavi 2" qibar xalvaSs daubr- 

undeboda? 

_ amis magaliTad SeiZleba gavixsenoT 

ivaniSvilis gancxadeba, 

rodesac man Tqva: Tu „rusTavi 2- 

s” gamorTavT, Zalian karg qveyana- 

Si vcxovrobTo. Turme ivaniSvili 

Tavisi araformaluri mmarTvelobiT 

da „qarTuli ocneba” warmatebiT 

marTavs qveyanas, politikurekonomikuri, 

samarTlebrivi, Tu 

sxvadasxva TvalsazrisiT, magram 

Turme „rusTavi 2" avrcelebs sxvadasxva 

tyuilsa da Wors. ivaniSvilisve 

TqmiT, TiTqos swored 

„rusTavi 2" awvdis saqarTvelos 

mosaxleobas cru informacias. 

aseve aRsaniSnavia isic, rom qibar 

xalvaSis da, fati xalvaSi, saqar- 

Tvelos parlamentSi swored „qarTuli 

ocnebidan” aris warmodgenili. 

Tqvenc amCnevT, rom is „xSirad 

gamodis” sakanonmdeblo iniciativebiT. 

aseve paralelurad Cven 

yovelTvis vismendiT mmarTveli 

gundis warmomadgenlebisgan „rus- 

Tavi 2-is” winaaRmdeg gakeTebul 

gancxadebebs. am kuTxiT paraleli 

rom gavavloT, ruseTis federaciasTan, 

rodesac amxanagi putini xelisuflebis 

saTaveSi movida, pirveli, 

rac gaakeTa, Secvala ÍÒÂ-s 

saredaqcio politika, Sesabamisad, 

dRes ÍÒÂ ruseTis xelisuflebis 

mTavari propagandistuli arxia. 

CvenTanac xelisuflebis mizani 

swored es aris, rom „rusTavi 2" 

maTi propagandistuli arxi gaxdes. 

aseve minda aRvniSno, rom iusticiis 

ministr Tea wulukians 

preskonferenciaze wamoscda, rom 

saxelmwifom „rusTavi 2-s” mougo 

davao, TiTqos is saqarTvelos uzenaes 

sasamarTlos gulisxmobda, 

magram uzenaesSi kerZo subieqtis 

gamarjvebiT damTavrda. ra da rogor 

gaimarjva, es kidev sxva sakiTxia. 

am yvelafers emateba, Tu rogor 

pozicias ikavebdnen „rusTavi 

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2-is” saqmeze qarTveli mosamarTleebi, 

magaliTad, mosamarTle 

urTmeliZe, romelic saubrobda, 

rom deda ojaxis wevri ar aris da 

a. S., aseve iyo SemTxvevebi, roca 

saapelacio sasamarTlos mosamarTlis 

Zmas saxli gadauformes 

da sxva, amitomac zustad aq Canda 

xelisuflebis Careva am procesSi. 

strasburgis sasamarTlom daadgina, 

rom qarTveli mosamarTleebis 

mxridan TiTqos mikerZoebuloba 

ar yofila, anu strasburgis mosamarTleebi 

iziareben, magaliTad, 

urTmeliZis gancxadebas, rom deda 

naTesavi ar aris. es maTi gadasawyvetia 

da aqedan gamomdinare, maT 

kompetenturobaSi eWvi mepareba. 

_ faqtia, rom „rusTavi 2-is” 

mflobeli ukve qibar xalvaSia da 

kompanias axali direqtori, paa- 

ta salia hyavs. ra safrTxeebs 

xedavT am yvelaferSi? 

_ Cven viciT, rogor muSaobs 

xelisuflebis propagandistuli 

media, magaliTad, telekompania 

„imedi” an Tundac gazeTi „asavaldasavali”, 

„pirveli arxi”, romelic 

sazogadoebrivi televiziaa, 

magram, realurad, vxedavT, rom ar 

aris sazogadoebrivi da xelisuflebis 

interesebs emsaxureba. am 

pirobebSi, roca „rusTavi 2-s” axali 

mflobeli da direqtori 

hyavs, xelisuflebas gauadvildeba 

gaaZlieros agitacia-propaganda 

imis Sesaxeb, Tu ra karg qveyanaSi 

vcxovrobT da „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” mmarTvelobis dros 

rogori sisxliani reJimi iyo. Sesabamisad, 

aqedan gamomdinare, demokratias 

saqarTveloSi problemebi 

Seeqmneba imitom, rom bevr rames, 

rasac xelisufleba sCadioda, 

swored „rusTavi 2" amxelda. magaliTad, 

korcxelis incidenti da 

aseve bevri sxva SemTxveva, roca 

„rusTavi 2" xelisuflebas amxelda 

da movlenebs obieqturad aSuqebda. 

axla ukve „rusTavi 2-s” xelisufleba 

propagandis saSualebad 

gamoiyenebs. 

_ „rusTavi 2-is” mflobeloba- 

ze pretenzia axla ukve irakli 

oqruaSvilsac aqvs, romelic acx- 

adebs, rom qibar xalvaSma mas gad- 

auforma televizia. misi TqmiT, 

amis damadasturebeli dokument- 

ebic aqvs. irakli oqruaSvili 

imasac ac ambobs, rom „rusTavi 2-is” 

dabrunebis SemTxvevaSi is kompa- 

niis 80%-s 10 wamyvan Jurnalists 

miscems, aqedan gamomdinare, Sei- 

Zleba Tu ara, irakli oqruaSvilis 

faqtorma arsebiTad Secvalos 

mocemuloba? misi saxiT Cn- 

deba Tu ara imis albaToba, rom 

„rusTavi 2" arsebuli saxiT Se- 

narCundes? 

_ eWvi mepareba, radgan dRevandeli 

sasamarTlos pirobebSi mimaCnia, 

rom oqruaSvils sasamarTlo 

procesis mogeba gauWirdeba. 

qibar xalvaSis advokatma da ukve 

„rusTavi 2-is” direqtorma paata 

saliam ganacxada, rom dokumenti, 

romelic irakli oqruaSvilma warmoadgina 

yalbiao, aqedan gamomdinare, 

am sasamarTlos pirobebSi 

rTulia, xelisuflebasTan daaxloebul 

adamianebs mougo procesi. 

am SemTxvevaSi gamosavali ufro 

xelisuflebis cvlileba mgonia. 

_ am procesebis paralelurad, 

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Zlieri figuraa~ 

vils 

`Cveni erovnuli Rirseba da interesebi unda 

davicvaT, es aris realoba. ar mgonia, aman 

Cveni qveynis interesi daazianos, piriqiT, am 

SemTxvevaSi evropas mivuTiTebT, rom evropis 

sabWos konkretulma mosamarTleebma xeli 

Seuwyves saqarTveloSi Tavisufali azris 

CaxSobas, - es aucileblad unda iTqvas~ 

ukve erT Tveze metia, rac rus- 

Tavelis gamzirze Ss ministr gio- 

rgi gaxarias gadadgomas iTxoven. 

rogor fiqrobT, am aqciebma 

dakarga Tu ara saprotesto mux- 

ti da ramdenad realuria is, rom 

gaxaria Tanamdebobidan gadadges? 

_ zafxuli mkvdari sezonia, Sesabamisad, 

vfiqrob, rom es saproteso 

muxti ufro seqtembridan 

ganaxldeba. seqtemberi-oqtomberi 

politikurad ufro aqtiuri Tvea, 

Sesabamisad, mgonia, rom am period- 

Si saprotesto muxti meti iqneba. 

temperatura mkveTrad moimatebs 

saparlamento arCevnebis win. rac 

Seexeba gaxarias gadadgomis sakiTxs, 

vfiqrob, „qarTulma ocnebam” 

es sakiTxi droebiT gadaitana. 

_ ivaniSvilma gaxarias gadadgomasTan 

dakavSirebiT ganacxa- 

da, rom es iqneboda samSoblos 

Ralati. ratom ver Tmobs araf- 

ormaluri mmarTveli Zalovan 

ministrs? 

_ „qarTuli ocnebis” reitingi 

ecema, aqedan gamomdinare, ivaniS- 

gaxaria, rogorc Zlieri figura, 

sWirdeba. gaxaria, WikaiZisgan 

gansxvavebiT, Zlieri figuraa. amave 

dros, is aris cudi, Tumca Zlieri 

namdviladaa. 

_ am saprotesto aqciebis mTa- 

var monapovrad proporciul 

sistemaze gadasvla miiCneva. ukve 

cnobilia, rom 2020 wels bune- 

brivi barieriT unda Catardes 

arCevnebi. rogor fiqrobT, bunebrivi 

barieri aris Tu ara ivaniS- 

vilis morigi triuki da SeZlebs 

Tu ara „qarTuli ocneba” amis 

saTavisod gamoyenebas? 

_ am SemTxvevaSi erT-erTi mTavari 

problema swored is aris, rom 

saqarTvelos konstituciaSi, jerjerobiT, 

aranairi cvlileba parlamentis 

arCevisa da misi formirebis 

wesTan dakavSirebiT, Sesuli 

ar aris. jerjerobT, konstituciaSi 

weria, rom parlamentis 77 

wevri proporciuli wesiT airCeva, 

xolo 73 _ maJoritaruli wesiT. 

imisTvis, rom saqarTvelos 

konstituciaSi cvlileba Sevides, 

saWiroa parlamentis 2/3-is mxardaWera, 

aqedan gamomdinare, 

ivaniSvilis gancxadeba arasakmarisia. 

Semdgom SesaZloa, „qarTulma 

ocnebam” ganacxados, rom deputatebma 

am cvlilebas mxari ar dau- 

Wires, Cven demokratiuli xelisufleba 

varT da verc erT parlamentars 

ver davaZalebT xmis micemaso. 

amitomac SesaZlebelia, ver 

moxdes proporciulze gadasvla, 

swored amisTvisaa brZola saWiro. 

piradad mgonia, rom Semodgomidan 

mTavari politikuri bataliebi 

rusTavelis gamziridan parlamentSi 

gadainacvlebs. saWiroa cvlilebebis 

Setana saqarTvelos konstituciaSi, 

jer es cvlilebebi 

ar Sesula. 

_ sanam ivaniSvili proporci- 

ul sistemaze gadasvlasTan 

dakavSirebiT gancxadebas gaa- 

keTebda, opozicia erTsulovnad 

iTxovda saarCevno sistemis Secvlas 

da amasTan dakavSirebiT xe- 

lmowerebic ki Seagroves, Tumca 

mas Semdeg, rac „qarTuli ocne- 

ba” am „daTmobaze” wavida, opoziciis 

mxridan, maT Soris, „nacio- 

naluri moZraobidan”, mainc ukmayofilo 

da kritikuli gancxade- 

bebi movismineT. aqedan gamomdinare, 

ramdenad mzad aris opozicia, 

rom am cvlilebebis warmate- 

biT ganxorcielebaSi saTanado 

nabijebi gadadgas? 

_ unda aRiniSnos, rom arsebul 

Sereul saarCevno sistemas nebismier 

SemTxvevaSi sjobs proporciuli 

sistema, Tundac igive nulovani 

ganakveTiT. saqme is aris, rom 

opozicia ukmayofiloa, radgan isini 

konkretuli barieris dawesebas 

iTxoven. Tu barieri ar dawesda, 

dabalreitingul partiebs sa- 

Sualeba eqnebaT, TavianTi deputatebi 

gaiyvanon da SemdgomSi isini 

gaurigdnen „qarTul ocnebas” 

`xazaraZe iqneba ivaniSvilis radikaluri 

opozicia, radgan mas konfliqti mouvida 

ivaniSvilTan, SesaZloa, amis gamo is ivaniSvilis 

seriozuli opozicia iyos, miT umetes, mas 

seriozuli finansuri resursebi aqvs, magram 

arsebobs meore variantic: Cven vnaxeT, rom 

ivaniSvilma loialuri damokidebuleba 

daafiqsira xazaraZis mimarT, amitomac SesaZloa, 

ivaniSvils, garkveulwilad, awyobdes xazaraZis 

politikaSi Semosvla, radganac misi partia 

SedarebiT loialuri iqneba `qarTuli ocnebis" 

mimarT, vidre `nacionaluri moZraoba~ 

da am gziT „qarTulma ocnebam” saparlamento 

umravlesobis Seqmna 

moaxerxos. 5%-iani barieris arsebobis 

SemTxvevaSi ki „qarTul ocnebasa” 

da biZina ivaniSvils potenciuri 

mokavSireebi Camoscildeba. 

_ ukve daiwyes saubari koaliciur 

mTavrobaze, amasTan dakav- 

SirebiT premier-ministrmac gaa- 

keTa gancxadeba. rogorc Cans, 

mmarTvel gundSic ganixilaven am 

sakiTxs. rogor fiqrobT, ramde- 

nad efeqtiani iqneba koaliciuri 

mTavroba Cveni qveynis pirobebSi? 

_ Tu 2020 wels koaliciuri 

mTavroba Seiqmneba, es saqarTveloSi 

koaliciuri mTavrobis pirveli 

precedenti iqneba. es yvelaferi 

ki damokidebulia im politikur 

Zalebze, romelic xelisuflebaSi 

aRmoCndeba, anu es damokidebulia 

imaze, Tu ramden procents 

miiRebs arCevnebSi „qarTuli 

ocneba”, „nacionaluri moZraoba” 

da sxva Zalebi. saerTo jamSi, 

koaliciuri mTavroba mxolod 

mTavrobis saqmianobas ar gulisxmobs, 

es imis maCvenebelia, rom xelisuflebaSi 

erT romelime politikur 

partias ar ukavia monopoliuri 

mdgomareoba, rac demokratiisTvis, 

ra Tqma unda, kargi iqneba. 

am SemTxvevaSi problema SeiZleba 

iyos is, rom „qarTulma ocnebam” 

yvelaferi ikadros. CvenTan, samwuxarod, 

bevri amomrCeveli iyideba, 

riTac xels uwyobs „qarTul 

ocnebas” Zalauflebis damkvidrebaSi. 

Sesabamisad, Zalian bevri iqneba 

imaze damokidebuli, Tu ramdenad 

demokratiulad Catardeba 

arCevnebi. 

_ 2020 wlis saparlamento 

arCevnebisTvis axali moTamaSeebi 

Cndebian politikur velze. mamu- 

ka xazaraZem samoqalaqo moZraob- 

is Seqmna daaanonsa, garkveuli na- 

wili fiqrobs, rom xaZaraZe swo- 

red is mesame Zala iqneba, rome- 

lzedac ukve didi xania, vsaubrobT. 

rogor fiqrobT, ra poli- 

tikuri perspeqtivebi eqneba mas? 

_ am SemTxvevaSi arsebobs ori 

versia. pirveli: xazaraZe iqneba 

ivaniSvilis radikaluri opozicia, 

radgan mas konfliqti mouvida 

ivaniSvilTan, SesaZloa, amis gamo 

is ivaniSvilis seriozuli opozicia 

iyos, miT umetes, mas seriozuli 

finansuri resursebi aqvs, magram 

arsebobs meore variantic: 

Cven vnaxeT, rom ivaniSvilma loialuri 

damokidebuleba daafiqsira 

xazaraZis mimarT, amitomac Sesa- 

Zloa, ivaniSvils, garkveulwilad, 

awyobdes xazaraZis politikaSi 

Semosvla, radganac misi partia SedarebiT 

loialuri iqneba „qarTuli 

ocnebis” mimarT, vidre „nacionaluri 

moZraoba”. aqedan gamomdinare, 

aseTi opozicia ivaniSvils 

SesaZloa, ufro dasWirdes. ivaniSvili 

fiqrobs, rom TiTqos xazaraZe 

masTan valSia, radgan is ar 

daapatimres finansuri darRvevebis 

gamo, romelic mas hqonda. Sesa- 

Zlebelia, Tavad „qarTuli ocneba” 

farulad uwyobda xels, rom 

xazaraZis TavmjdomareobiT aseTi 

partia Seqmniliyo. anu meore versiis 

Tanaxmad, SesaZlebelia, ivaniSvili 

da xazaraZe erTmaneTis interesebs 

emsaxurebodnen. rac Seexeba 

imas, iqneba Tu ara xazaraZe 

mesame Zala, misi Zlieri mxare finansuri 

resursebi namdvilad aris, 

magram misi susti mxarea is, rom, 

jerjerobiT, mis gverdiT seriozuli 

politikosebi ar Canan. vin 

Seva mis gundSi, amis Semdeg Segvi- 

Zlia vimsjeloT, ramdenad seriozuli 

perspeqtivebi eqneba xazara- 

Zis politikur partias. 

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`gaxarias gadayeneba principis ambavia~ 

giorgi sakaruli 

555 42 42 90 

„qronika+”-is kiTxvebs „leiboristuli” 

partiis uflebadam- 

cveli centris xelmZRvaneli, 

laSa CxartiSvili pasuxobs: 

_ batono laSa, erTi Tve 20 

ivnisis sisxliani tragediidan _ 

rogor SeafasebdiT „gavrilovis 

Rames” da Semdeg ganviTarebul 

procesebs? 

_ „gavrilovis Ramem” sabolood 

Camoxsna farda ivaniSvilis 

reJims _ man daadastura erTaderTi 

argumenti, romliTac „nacionalur 

moZraobaze” ukeTes partiad 

asaRebda Tavs, TiTqos sisxls 

ar Rvrida. teqnikuri TvalsazrisiT, 

ivaniSvilma, sul mcire, 

26 maisisa da 7 noembris sisastike 

gaimeora. asobiT adamiani daasaxi- 

Cra, ramdenimem Tvali dakarga, 

nawili sikvdilamde miiyvana da masobrivi 

Tavdasxma ganaxorciela. 

aqedan gamomdinare, amaT ukve aranairi 

argumenti ar darCaT „nacionalur 

moZraobasTan” mimarTebiT, 

Tumca minda SegaxsenoT, 

rom biZina ivaniSvili Tavad gaxldaT 

mixeil saakaSvilisa da „nacionaluri 

moZraobis” partniori, 

roca moxda 7 noemberi da 26 

maisi. rogorc amboben, swored is 

iyo erT-erTi mTavari iniciatori 

maSindeli darbevebis. 20 ivniss 

mcdeloba hqondaT, rom diqtatura 

daemyarebinaT, rac ver ganxorcielda, 

sazogadoebas ar SeeSinda 

am Zaladobis da es mosalodnelic 

iyo. aman moitana didi Sedegi, 

Tumca procesi bolomde misayvania 

proporciuli arCevnebis 

saxiT. am qveyanaSi erTxel da samudamod 

unda damTavrdes bolSevizmi, 

radgan yvela problemisa 

da tragediis saTave aris erTi 

adamianis xelSi. rac Seexeba gaxarias 

sakiTxs, mec am moTxovnas 

vuerTdebi da vmonawileob kidec 

im aqciebSi, sadac axalgazrdebi 

dganan. bunebrivia, esec sworia 

da, sul mcire, Tanamdebobidan 

unda gadadges gaxaria, radgan samarTlebrivi 

kuTxiT mas aravin 

gaasamarTlebs, vidre xelisuflebis 

saTaveSi ivaniSvili iqneba. 

gaxarias gadayeneba principis 

ambavia. bunebrivia, ivaniSvili ki 

Seecdeba, rom sxva gaxaria moiyvanos 

aRniSnul Tanamdebobaze, 

magram mainc precedenti iqneba 

imisa, rom sxvam naklebad Seasrulos 

misi dakveTa. ramdenic ar 

unda gadaefaros gaxaria ivaniSvils, 

yvelam kargad viciT, rom 

mis gareSe veravin gabedavda aseT 

masStabur sisxlisRvras mSvidobian 

momitingeebsa da Jurnalistebze. 

rodesac gaxaria gamarTlebas 

cdilobs, yvelam vnaxeT, 

rom es iyo sistemuri Zaladoba, 

es ar iyo gamonaklisi, radgan aseT 

SemTxvevaSi ar SeiZleba, asobiT 

adamiani dazaraldes, aTobiT 

adamiani dasaxiCrdes, Tvali dakargos 

da gaqceul moqalaqeebze 

nadiroba, ar SeiZleba, SemTxvevi- 

Tobas davabraloT. 

_ 26 maisisa da 7 noembris darbevaSic 

biZina ivaniSvilis pasux- 

ismgeblobas xedavT? 

laSa CxartiSvili: 

`ra mniSvneloba 

aqvs, saakaSvili 

dagvarbevs 

merabiSvilTan 

erTad, Tu 

ivaniSvili _ 

gaxariasTan 

erTad?!~ 

_ pirdapir! ramdenad is iyo am 

darbevis iniciatori, es sxva 

Temaa, magram sul mcire pasiuri 

momxre da mxardamWeri rom iyo 

maSindeli sisxliani reJimis, 

romelzec axla xSirad saubrobs 

. amaze ori azri ar arsebobs. yvelas 

kargad gvaxsovs, rom 2011 

wlamde ivaniSvili aqtiuri damfinansebeli 

da mxardaWeri gaxldaT 

saakaSvilis reJimis. arc 7 noembers 

gamouTqvams aranairi protesti, 

arc 26 maisis dros da arc 

omis periodSi Seuwyvetia misi 

dafinanseba. erT-erTi pirvelebi 

gaxldiT maSin, vinc mas SuSis 

kadafi daarqva, mas ar aqvs oficialuri 

Zalaufleba, Tumca is 

wyvets yvelafers. 

_ Tqven weRan aRniSneT, rom 

giorgi gaxarias gadadgoma prin- 

cipis ambaviao. gindaT TqvaT, 

rom gaxaria principis gamo unda 

gadadges Tanamdebobidan Tu misi 

pasuxismgebloba realurad unda 

dadges? 

_ gaxaria pasuxismgebelia rogorc 

politikurad, aseve samarTlebrivad. 

bunebrivia, misi samarTlebrivi 

pasuxismgeblobac 

unda dadges, ubralod 

ivaniSvilis mmar- 

Tvelobis pirobebSi 

es ar moxdeba, Tumca, adre 

Tu gvian, Cven yvelam unda vibrZoloT 

imisTvis, rom is daisajos. 

rogorc vano merabiSvils 

moeTxova pasuxi, maT Soris, aqciebis 

darbevis gamo aqvs brali wayenebuli, 

aseve unda moeTxovos pasuxi 

gaxariasac. ra mniSvneloba 

aqvs, saakaSvili dagvarbevs merabiSvilTan 

erTad Tu ivaniSvili _ 

gaxariasTan erTad?! faqti da 

danaSauli saxezea, romelic Zalian 

mZimea. gaqceul momitingeebs 

quCebsa da ezoebSi mTeli dRe 

dasdevdnen da absoluturad mSvidobian 

moqalaqeebs, maT Soris, 

Jurnalistebs uswordebodnen. 

igive moxda 7 noembersac da 26 

maiss, rame gansxvavebas xedavT? 

_ 20 ivnisis aqciis sisxliani 

darbevidan zustad erTi Tvis 

Tavze, manifestantebi rusTave- 

lis gamzirze banerebiT xelSi 

mividnen, romlebzedac ricxvebi 

iyo gamosaxuli _ es simboluri 

niSania maTi simravlisa da pasuxi 

biZina ivaniSvilis gancxadebaze, 

romelmac ramdenime dRis win ga- 

nacxada, rom parlamentis win 200 

kaci dgas, isic opoziciis mier 

mobilizebulio. rogoria Tqveni 

Sefaseba ivaniSvilis am gancxadebaze 

da ramdenad araseriozulad 

aRiqvams is 20 ivnisis mov- 

lenebs? 

_ ra Tqma unda, araseriozulad 

ver uyurebs da ivaniSvils am 

sakiTxisadmi araseriozulad rom 

Seexeda, is proporciul arCevnebze 

gancxadebebs ar gaakeTebda. man 

Zalian seriozulad Seafasa misi 

Zalauflebis naadrevad dasrulebis 

riski da amitomac wamovida 

am nabijze. aris sxva mrava- 

`daviTgarejis dakargva 

qveynisTvis tragedia iqneba~ 

li seriozuli sakiTxi, rogoricaa 

„rusTvi 2-is” damoukideblobis 

realuri garantia, aseve daviTgarejis 

sakiTxi Zalian mwvavea 

da realuri dakargvis safrTxis 

winaSe vdgavarT. dRes, faqtobrivad, 

es teritoria CvenTvis daxurulia. 

ivaniSvilis mxardaWeriT 

es yvelaferi dasruldeba aneqsiiT. 

roca saubroben Semogdebul 

Temaze, meorexarisxovnobaze da 

imaze, rom azerbaijani ar aris 

okupanti, minda giTxraT, rom azerbaijanic 

iseTive okupantia, 

rogorc ruseTi, romelic gvarTmevs 

ara marto miwas, aramed did 

istoriul nawils, imitom rom 

gareji yvelam viciT, rom aris 

msxvili, unikaluri istoriuli 

nawili da monasteri saqarTvelo- 

Si. am yvelafris ukan ki dgas 

ivaniSvili. 

_ Cven yvela vxedavT, rom ukve 

erT kviraze metia, rac daviT- 

garejis samonastro kompleqsSi 

momlocvelebi da sasuliero 

pirebi veRar Sedian. ramdenad 

arsebobs am teritoriis daka- 

rgvis safrTxe? 

_ riski Zalian maRalia. mgonia, 

rom Tu sazogadoeba Zalian 

masStabur aqtivobas ar gaimeorebs, 

romelic iyo gazafxulze, 

SeiZleba rom ivaniSvilma nebismier 

dros sabolood gadauformos 

gareji alievis reJims. sabrZolo 

fronti mravali mimarTulebiT 

aris gaxsnili da sazogadoeba ganawilebulia 

sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT, 

magram sxva gza ar 

aris, Cven gvWirdeba rogorc 

damoukidebeli media, aseve garejis 

TemaSic, okupaciis kuTxiTac, 

magram es yvelaferi unda Sev- 

ZloT, rom davicvaT Cveni teritoriebi. 

daviTgarejis dakargva 

qveynisTvis tragedia iqneba. 

_ batono laSa, aranakleb 

mniSvnelovania 

telekompania 

„rusTavi 2-is” garSemo mimdinare 

movlenebi. mogexsenebaT, rom 

strasburgis sasamarTlom „rus- 

Tavi 2-is” saqmeze Tbilisis saqal 

alaqo, aqo, saapelacio da uzenaesi 

sasamarTloebis mosamarTleebis 

mxridan, damoukideblobisa da 

miukerZoeblobis nawilSi dar- 

Rveva ar aRmoaCina. ra bedi eweva 

telekompanias mocemul situaciaSi 

da Tqveni Sefaseba rogo- 

ria am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT? 

_ rac Seexeba strasburgis 

sasamarTlos, Tu riT aris ganpirobebuli 

es ucnauri gadawyvetileba, 

amaze SeiZleba garkveuli 

eWvebis gamoTqma, rusuli faqtori 

iqneba Tu sxva. aq laparakia 

erT kolegiaze da mTavari problema 

isaa, rom ivaniSvilis reJimma 

es telekompania qibar xalvaSs 

gadauforma. sakuTrebis uflebaze 

vinmes Tu unda hqondes laparaki, 

eseni arian daviT dvali da 

jarji aqimiZe. mTavari aris is, 

rom „rusTavi 2" SeiZleba idealuri 

ar aris, magram dReis mdgomareobiT 

is aris yvelaze masStaburi, 

kritikuli telekompania, 

romelic, sxvaTa Soris, yvela 

politikur partias aZlevda saSualebas, 

rom TavianTi azri daefiqsirebinaT. 

miSasdroindel „rusTavi 

2-s” saxeli gadaerqva da mas 

hqvia „imedi” da dRevandeli „rusTavi 

2" aris yvelaze didi tribuna, 

romelic aucilebelia qveynisTvis 

da absoluturad yvela 

adamianisTvis. aqedan gamomdinare, 

misi dakargva Zalian didi dartyma 

iqneba Tavisufali mediisTvis. 

Cven unda vecadoT, rom es gundi 

SenarCundes. ar minda, vinme am yvelafers 

Seeguos, brZola unda 

gaagrZelon da minda, rom dRevandelma 

„rusTavi 2-ma” SeinarCunos 

Tavisi saxe da iseTive kritikuli 

darCes, rogorc dRes aris. 

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ukve erT Tveze metia, rac axalgazrdebi 

Ss ministr giorgi gaxarias Tanamdebobidan gada- 

dgomis moTxovniT rusTavelze aqcias marTaven. moTxovna isev 

moTxovnad rCeba, Tumca am aqciebma isic dagvanaxa, rom sa- 

zogadoeba politikaSi axali saxeebis gamoCenas iTxovs, rom 

arsebuli politikuri speqtri gasaaxlebelia. ratom Semcir- 

da saprotesto muxti? ramdenad aucilebelia da vixilavT Tu 

ara axalgazrdebs 2020 wlis parlamentSi da ra gamowvevebi 

dgas Cveni qveynis axalgazrdebis winaSe? 

am da sxva mniSvnelovan Temebze 

„qronika+~ rubrika „axalgazrda 

politikosebSi” „lei- 

boristuli partiis” wevr giorgi 

gziriSvils esaubra: 

_ giorgi, Tqveni partiis liderma, 

Salva naTelaSvilma, ga- 

nacxada, rom ivaniSvilma „rus- 

Tavis 2-is” saqmeze strasburgis 

sasamarTloc ki moisyida. eT- 

anxmebiT Tu ara am mosazrebas da 

Tu eTanxmebiT, ra gaZlevT amis 

Tqmis safuZvels? 

_ yvelaferi SesaZlebelia. piradad 

mTavar problemad miviCnev 

imas, rom qarTuli sasamarTlo 

maqsimalurad mikerZoebulia da am 

pirobebSi qarTuli sasamarTlos 

mosyidva rom SesaZlebelia, amaze 

bevri saubari arc aris saWiro. am 

SemTxvevaSi, strasburgis sasamarTloze, 

Cemi azriT, didi gavlena 

iqonia qarTuli sasamarTlos 

mier miRebulma gadawyvetilebebma, 

aqedan gamomdinare, mTavari 

problemaa, rom qarTuli marTlmsajuleba 

ar aris mowodebis sima- 

Rleze. gansaxilvelia is sakiTxic, 

rom strasburgSi garkveulma lobistebma 

imuSaves. biZina ivaniSvili 

miliarderia da, Sesabamisad, 

mas hyavs kidec lobistebi, Tumca 

Tavs ver davdeb da ver vityvi, rom 

romelime mosamarTle moisyida. 

qarTulma sasamarTlom da instituciebma 

imdenad gaayalbes, imdenad 

„Sekeres” da ise Caitanes strasburgSi 

es saqme da ise waradgines 

yvela dokumenti, rac iyo sa- 

Wiro, rom SesaZloa, strasburgs, 

ubralod, sxva gamosavalic ar 

hqonda darCenili. amitomac, Sei- 

Zleba, samarTlebrivad ver miiRes 

is gadawyvetileba, rom „rusTavi 

2" ar daebrunebinaT qibar xalva- 

SisTvis, Tumca SesaZloa, moralurad 

Cven gverdiT iyvnen da maTac 

sjerodaT, rom „rusTavi 2" unda 

iyos im adamianebis xelSi, visic 

iyo manam, sanam qibar xalvaSs gadauformebdnen. 

am saqmeSi instituciebi 

aqtiurad rom iyvnen CarTuli, 

amaze metyvelebs Semdegi faqti: 

saqarTveloSi adamianebi qonebis 

gadaformebas Tveebis ganmavlobaSi 

ver axerxeben, ratomRac, moxda 

ise, rom 1 saaTSi saqarTvelo- 

Si, yvela instituciam, „rusTavi 2- 

Tan” dakavSirebiT gamosca dokumentebi 

da ramdenime saaTSi amxela 

kompania qibar xalvaSs gadauforma, 

direqtoric ki Secvales. 

rodesac xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi 

amboben, rom isini ar Careulan 

„rusTavi 2-is” sakiTxSi da 

rom es iyo wminda samarTlebrivi 

samoqalaqo dava, es aris yvelaze 

didi tyuili. 

_ ra safrTxeebs qmnis „ru- 

sTavi 2" arsebuli saxiT an misi 

mauwyeblobis Sewyveta? 

_ „rusTavi 2-idan” qarTveli 

mosaxleoba vismenT imas, rac gul- 

Si gvaqvs, vismenT Cvens gasaWirs. es 

televizia maqsimalurad opoziciuria, 

aqedan gamomdinare, „rusTavi 

2-s” vuyurebT swored imitom, rom 

gavigoT simarTle, is, rac qveyanaSi 

xdeba. Cven am simarTlis mosmenas 

veRar SevZlebT. aseve mniSvnelovania 

is, rom Cven, rogorc 

saxelmwifos, dasavleTis maqsimalurad 

dadebiTi Sefasebebi gvWirdeba 

imisTvis, rom kargi urTier- 

Toba Camogviyalibdes dasavleT- 

Tan. isini aqamde werdnen, rom me- 

diapluralistuli garemo iyo 

Cvens qveyanaSi. ara mgonia, es Sefasebebi 

isev gagrZeldes, mas Semdeg, 

rac „rusTavi 2-is” saredaqcio 

politika Seicvleba. amitomac 

mgonia, rom yvelaze didi dartyma 

swored dasavleTis Sefasebebi 

iqneba, pirvel rigSi, saxelmwifos- 

Tvis iqneba yvelaze didi problema 

arapluralisturi garemoTi 

dasavleTTan daaxloeba. 

_ mmarTveli gundis warmomadgenlebi 

amboben, rom swored, imitom, 

rom mediagaremo Tavisufalia, 

„rusTavi 2-is” gunds Sesa- 

Zlebloba aqvs, axali arxi Seqm- 

nas. es ramdenad SeiZleba iyos am 

situaciaSi gamosavali? 

_ vfiqrob, xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi 

am gancxadebiT dascinian 

im adamianebs, romlebic 

„rusTavi 2-is” qibar xalvaSisTvis 

gadacemas ewinaaRmdegebian, radgan 

SeuZlebelia, axali arxi Seiqmnas 

da iseTive gavlena da masStabi 

hqondes, rogoric „rusTavi 2-s” 

aqvs. kidev erTxel aRvniSnav: 

„rusTavi 2" iyo brendi da amitomac 

Canda dasavleTisTvis ase 

mkafiod, daskvnebic Sesabamisi 

hqondaT. rodesac Seiqmneba axali 

arxi, aseTi gavlena ar eqneba da 

verc dasavleTSi gaigeben, rom 

raime opoziciuri arxi arsebobs. 

rogorc Cans, „imedi” darCeba mTavar 

saxelisuflebo moTamaSed, 

pirveli arxi isedac saxelisufleboa, 

„rusTavi 2", axali mmarTvelis 

pirobebSi, aseve saxelisuflebo 

arxad iqceva. am realobaSi ki 

rTuli iqneba iseTi kompaniis Seqmna, 

romelic drois mokle monakveTSi 

maT gautoldeba. miT umetes, 

es ver moxerxdeba 2020 wlamde, 

roca saparlamento arCevnebia. 

Cemi azriT, „qarTuli ocneba” 

swored imisTvis ibrZoda, rom 2020 

wels „rusTavi 2" gaCumebuliyo. 

_ amis paralelurad, ukve erT 

Tveze metia, rusTavelis gamzirze 

gaxarias gadadgomis moTx- 

ovniT aqcia imarTeba. rogor fiqrobT, 

dakarga Tu ara am aqcieb- 

ma saprotesto muxti? 

_ Tqven gaxsovT basianis movlenebi, 

sadac axalgazrdebi sami dRe 

marTavdnen aqcias da Semdeg daiSalnen. 

wesiT, ar unda daSliliyvnen, 

magram daiSalnen, raSic 

Zalian bevrma faqtorma iTamaSa 

gadamwyveti roli. rac Seexeba am 

aqciebs, 20 ivniss basianeli axalgazrdebi 

da danarCeni saqarTveloc 

kidev erTxel gamovida par- 


lamentTan. Tu rusTavelze bevri 

xalxi ar dgas, es imas ar niSnavs, 

rom muxti qreba. saqarTveloSi 

iseTi mZafri ram, rogoric gavrilovis 

viziti iyo, Tu moxdeba, es 

adamianebi parlamentTan kidev 

gamovlen. es uaryofiTi muxti adamianebs 

unarCundebaT da Tavis 

droze ise amoxeTqavs, rom aqcias 

veRar daSlian. am SemTxvevaSi, 

vfiqrob, muxti ar gamqrala, zafxulia 

da bevrma adamianurma faqtorma 

iTamaSa gadamwyveti roli, 

rom dRes parlamentTan SedarebiT 

naklebi xalxi dgas, Tumca Sesa- 

Zloa, es Seicvalos kidec, rodesac 

zafxuli gaivlis. 

_ SeiZleba iTqvas, xelisufle- 

bam gaxarias gadadgomis sakiTxi 

gadaagora. rogor fiqrobT, ratom 

ar daTmo ivaniSvilma gaxar- 

ia? 

_ dRes „qarTuli ocnebis” mTavari 

mteri „nacionaluri moZraobaa”. 

„ocnebis” mTavari „tipi”, 

romelic „nacionalur moZraobas” 

ugebs saubarSi, iWers maT warmomadgenlebs 

da ar eSinia am nabijebis 

gadadgmis, _ es aris gaxaria. man 

Tavze xeli aiRo da ivaniSvilis 

yvela moTxovnas asrulebs. rTuli 

mosaZebnia iseTi adamiani, romelic 

amden sisulelesa da dana- 

Sauls Caidens. ivaniSvilma, radgan 

aseTi ipova, aRar unda misi gaSve- 

giorgi 

gziriSvili: 

àqcia, sadac 

politikosi ar 

dgas, rutinaSi 

gasaxvevad aris 

ganwiruli~ 

ba. mas hyavs gaxarias saxiT yvela 

moTxovnis Semsrulebeli adamiani, 

amitomac didi xnis ganmavlobaSi 

ver daTmobs. „qarTuli ocnebis” 

momxreebisTvis, romlebsac ezizRebaT 

opoziciuri partiebi, 

gansakuTrebiT ki „nacionaluri 

moZraoba”, maTTvis gaxaria, Sei- 

Zleba iTqvas, RmerTiviTaa. rogorc 

Cans, ivaniSvili gaxarias gadayenebas 

ar iCqarebs, radgan is am 

mTavrobisTvis xerxemaliviTaa. 

aseve aRsaniSnavia rusuli gavlenebic 

_ gaxaria iq gazrdili kacia 

da ruseTSic mfarvelebi hyavs. amitomac 

gaxaria aris adamiani, romlis 

gadayenebac saqarTvelos 

mTavrobaSi yvelaze rTulia. premier-ministris 

gadayeneba rom moeTxovaT, 

eWvi mepareba, amden xans 

gaweliliyo, albaT baxtaZes meore 

dResve gadaayenebdnen. 

_ axalgazrdul problemebze 

visaubroT, ra gamowvevis winaSe 

vdgavarT qarTveli axalgazrde- 

bi? 

_ ukve ramdenime welia, rac aqtiurad 

var CarTuli politikaSi, 

axla rodesac axalgazrdul problemebze 

vsaubrob, razec 6 wlis 

win vsaubrobdi, zustad igivea 

saTqmeli dResac. axalgazrdebisTvis 

dadebiTisken araferi Secvlila, 

axalgazrdebs am qveyanaSi 

momavali ar gaaCniaT. qveyanas ar 

`gansaxilvelia is sakiTxic, rom strasburgSi 

garkveulma lobistebma imuSaves. biZina 

ivaniSvili miliarderia da, Sesabamisad, mas 

hyavs kidec lobistebi, Tumca Tavs ver davdeb 

da ver vityvi, rom romelime mosamarTle 

moisyida. qarTulma sasamarTlom da 

instituciebma imdenad gaayalbes, imdenad 

`Sekeres~ da ise Caitanes strasburgSi es saqme 

da ise waradgines yvela dokumenti, rac iyo 

saWiro, rom SesaZloa, strasburgs, ubralod, 

sxva gamosavalic ar hqonda darCenili~ 

aqvs konkretuli gezi, saiT vi- 

Tardeba, aseve arc erTi is sfero 

ar aris ganviTarebuli, riTac axalgazrdebi 

SeZleben Tavis damkvidrebasa 

da TavianTi SesaZleblobebis 

realizebas. Zalian sasaciloa 

is faqtic, rom viRebT ganaTlebas, 

gvaqvs diplomebi, Tumca 

axalgazrdebis umravlesoba 

TavianTi profiliT ar muSaobs. es 

metyvelebs imaze, rom qveyana kidev 

ufro Seumdgaria, rom axalgazrdebze 

da maT momavalze aravin 

fiqrobs. is, vinc mTavrobaSia da 

visac berketebi aqvs, mxolod Tavis 

ojaxis wevrebsa da Tavis Svilebze 

fiqrobs. swored mxolod 

maTi Svilebi swavloben dasavle- 

Tis wamyvan universitetebSi. maT 

danarCeni axalgazrdebi arc ainteresebT. 

vfiqrob, Cven Tavad axalgazrdebma 

unda SevZloT, rom 

xelisuflebam mogvisminos. mjera, 

rom yvelaze didi Zala axalgazrdebSia 

da nel-nela es axalgazrduli 

muxti, SeiZleba, gaizardos. 

axalgazrdebi nel-nela swavloben, 

rom raRacebi unda moiTxovon. 

Cven varT Taoba, romelic saxelmwifos 

ar uyurebs, rogorc mewvel 

Zroxas, saidanac mudmivad ra- 

Rac sargebeli unda naxo, piriqiT, 

Cven vfiqrobT, rom saxelmwifos- 

Tvis Tavadve unda gavceT raRacebi. 

Cven saxelmwifos mimarT pasuxismgeblobas 

vgrZnobT. imisTvis, 

rom axalgazrdebs kargi momavali 

gvqondes dRes, awmyosTvis unda 

vibrZoloT, rom fundamenti SevqmnaT 

ukeTesi momavlis saSeneblad. 

imedi maqvs, axalgazrdebi protestis 

nawilSi kidev ufro gaaqtiurdebian. 

adre Tu romelime 

partiis warmomadgeneli iyavi, „texavda”, 

es damokidebuleba nelnela 

icvleba, axalgazrdebi mixvdnen, 

rom politikis gareSe Seu- 

Zlebelia saxelmwifos ganviTareba. 

basianis aqciebi rom gavixsenoT, 

maSin absoluturad yvela ambobda, 

rom politikosebi aqciaze ar 

misuliyvnen. am gamocdilebidan 

gamomdinare, 20 ivnisis aqciaze, axalgazrdebis 

azri radikalurad 

Seicvala. am aqciaze axalgazrdebis 

TiTqmis 60% ambobda, rom politikosebi 

da maTi gamocdileba 

saWiroa. axalgazrdebi politikisken 

unda motrialdnen, Caer- 

Ton saxelmwifo mSeneblobaSi, ris 

Semdegac CveniT unda gavxsnaT 

gzebi momavlisken, radgan ukve 

aTwleulebia, amas aravin akeTebs. 

amitomac, es Cveni gasakeTebelia. 

_ miuxedavad imisa, rom 20 iv- 

nisis aqciaze politikosebi idg- 

nen, organizatorebi acxadebdnen, 

rom saorganizacio nawilSi ar 

sWirdebodaT maTi CarTuloba 

daazarala Tu ara aman aqcia? 

gagrZeleba 37-e gv. 

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òcnebis~ politikuri 

gasul kviras, kerZod, 15 iv- 


liss, premierma baxtaZem sazogadoebas 

amcno, rom momavali saswavlo 

wlidan iakob gogebaSvilis „dedaena” skolebSi dabrun- 

deba. „gavrilovis krizisis” fonze, anu maSin, roca xelisufleba 

ndobasa da mardamWerebs yoveldRiurad kargavs, aRniS- 

nuli gadawyvetileba wminda piarsvlas hgavs, miT umetes, im 

fonze, rom mSobluri ena yoveli qarTvelisTvis iseTive Zvir- 

fasia, rogorc _ samSoblo. Sesabamisad, nebismier Temas, 

romelic erovnul Rirebulebebs exeba, amomrCevlis mxridan 

emociuri damokidebuleba aqvs xolme. 

sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime wlis 

win, roca piradobis mowmobidan 

mamis saxeli amoiRes, amas lamis 

„mesame msoflio omi” moyva. yovel 

SemTxvevaSi, sazogadoebis didma 

nawilma maSindeli mmarTveli 

gundis _ „moqkavSiris” es iniciativa 

erovnul identobasTan brZolad 

Seafasa. ra moxda realurad? 

_ piradobis mowmobidan mamis saxelis 

gaqrobiT qarTveloba aravis 

daukargavs, magram amis miuxedavad, 

amdeni wlis Semdegac ki, Tu 

vinmes dasavluri Rirebulebebis 

nivelireba moundeba xolme, swored 

am arguments iSveliebs, ai, 

Tqveni evropa, mamis saxelic ki 

wagvarTvao. es cxadia, utrirebuli 

naTqvamia, magram Tundac 20 ivnisis 

sisxliani Ramis Semdeg „ocnebis” 

xelisuflebas aSkarad 

sWirdeboda rame iseTi, rac misdami 

nihilsturad ganwyobili eleqtoratis 

gulis mogebaSi daexmareboda. 

aseTi ki, rogorc Cans, skolebSi 

iakob gogebaSvilis „dedaenis” 

dabruneba aRmoCnda. mokled, 

SeiZleba iTqvas, rom „ocnebam” 

Tavidan bolomde xalxis erovnul 

emociebze iTamaSa. 

„iakob gogebaSvilis epoqaSi 

qarTuli ena didi gamowvevis winaSe 

idga da qarTvelma patriotebma 

SeZles da Seqmnes wigni, romelic 

gadaecema Taobidan Taobas. 

rodesac iakob gogebaSvili Tavis 

wigns werda, mas swored es ganzraxva 

hqonda, rom es wigni gadascemoda 

Taobidan Taobas, rom Cven 

SegvenarCunebina yvelaze wminda _ 

Cveni ena da anbani. Semdeg mTeli 

qarTuli ganaTlebis sistema daefuZna 

swored iakob gogebaSvilis 

„dedaenis” principebs da es wigni 

TiToeuli qarTvelisTvis aris 

wminda da saTayvanebeli, magram 

upasuxismgeblo adamianebis moqmedebis 

Sedegad iakob gogebaSvilis 

„dedaena” amoiRes saswavlo programidan, 

ramac sazogadoebis samarTliani 

da obieqturi guliswyroma 

gamoiwvia. 

maSindeli epoqisTvis da maSindeli 

patriotebisTvis wera-kiTxvis 

gavrceleba iyo erovnuli idea. 

isini swored wera-kiTxvis gavrcelebaSi 

xedavdnen qarTveli eris 

gadarCenas. dRes Cvenc gvaqvs erovnuli 

idea da es aris ganaTleba”, 

_ es gancxadeba premierma baxtaZem 

15 ivliss, varianSi gaakeTa, 

sadac adaptirebuli „dedaenis” 

prezentacia gaimarTa. 

amasTan, cnobili gaxda, rom saxelmZRvanelos 

adaptirebuli versia 

saqarTvelos parlamentis 

inicirebiTa da saqarTvelos ganaTlebis, 

mecnierebis, kulturisa 

da sportis ministr mixeil batiaSvilis 

brZanebiT Seqmnilma eqspertTa 

specialurma komisiam SeimuSava. 

sxvaTa Soris, qarTuli saanbane 

saxelmZRvanelos Sedgenis iakob 

gogebaSviliseul meTods aramaterialuri 

kulturuli memkvidreobis 

Zeglis statusi 2013 wels mieniWa, 

2014 wels ki erovnuli kategoria 

ganesazRvra. 

ise, es pirveli SemTxveva ar aris, 

roca gogebaSviliseuli „dedaenis” 

skolebSi dabruneba dadga 

dRis wesrigSi. yovel SemTxvevaSi, 

jer kidev gasul wels, kerZod, 

noemberSi, parlamentis ganaTlebis, 

kulturisa da sportis saparlamento 

komitetis Tavmjdomare 

mariam jaSma gamoTqva varaudi, momavali 

wlidan SesaZloa, „dedaena” 

skolebSi dabrundeso. mogvianebiT, 

parlamentis saitze gamoCnda 

informacia, rom parlamentis wevrebma, 

zaza gabuniam da mariam jaSma, 

saqarTvelos parlaments warudgines 

sakanonmdeblo iniciativa, 

romlis Tanaxmadac, ganaTlebis 

saministro, eqspertTa sabWos meSveobiT, 

„dedaenis” qarTul saanbane 

saxelmZRvanelos, iakob gogebaSviliseul 

meTods moamzadebda 

da saswavlo procesisTvis dabeWdavda. 

erTi sityviT, „ocnebam” sityva 

saqmed aqcia da, rogorc zemoT 

aRvniSneT, momavali saswavlo wlidan 

skolebSi „dedaena” dabrundeba, 

Tumca moqalaqeebisgan gansxvavebiT, 

xelisuflebis am iniciativas 

politikosebi da specialistebi 

kritikiT Sexvdnen. am mxriv 

ki yvelaze meti aqtiuroba levan 

berZeniSvilma gamoiCina, romelmac 

pirdapir ganacxada, iakob gogebaSvilis 

pativiscema iTxovs, skoleb- 

Si „dedaena” ar Sevideso. 

„saxelmwifo dgams nabijs, romelsac 

ganaTlebasTan, ganaTlebis 

problemasTan pirdapiri kavSiri 

ar aqvs. es aris piaraqcia, romliTac 

Tavi moiwona saqarTvelos 

premier-ministrma, romelic ar vici, 

romel „dedaenazea” gazrdili, 

Tumca uaRresad Cauxedavi da arakompetenturi 

pirovneba gaxlavT 

iseve, rogorc dRevandeli ganaTlebis 

ministri. 

rac Seexeba imas, ras abruneben: 

laparaki aris iakob gogebaSvilis 

wignis adaptirebul versiaze, anu 

gogebaSvilisa da misi meTodologiis 

mixedviT dawerilze ki ara, 

aramed sakuTriv gogebaSvilis 

daweril wignze. odnav adaptirebulia, 

Tumca ras niSnavs es, ar 

viciT. is mTlianad aris XX saukunis 

dasawyisis, 1912 wlis versiis 

saxeoba. es imas niSnavs, rom xelisufleba 

gvTavazobs, wavideT ara 

win, aramed davbrundeT ukan, warsulSi. 

XX saukunis dasawyisis wignis 

ranairi adaptirebac unda moxdes, 

gasagebia, rom verc misi leqsika, 

verc misi ena, verc misi grafika 

arsebiTad ver Seicvleba. mas 

Semdeg didi dro gavida ena Seicvala, 

damokidebuleba Seicvala, 

enis Seswavlis meTodologiebi 

ganviTarda, gansakuTrebiT 50-iani 

ratom ewinaaRmdegebian 

specialistebi gogebaSviliseuli 

saxelmZRvanelos skolebSi 

dabrunebas? 

wlebidan, roca fsiqologia Semoi- 

Wra am saqmeSi da bevri ram moxda. 

miuxedavad imisa, rom gogebaSvili 

didi kaci iyo, is amas me-19 

saukunis bolosa da me-20 saukunis 

dasawyisSi ver gaiTvaliswinebda. 

gogebaSvili rom cocxali iyos, 

albaT, vaxtang rodonaias gamoacxadebda 

saukeTeso saxelmZRvanelod 

an axals dawerda, an ra- 

Rac sxvas ityoda. zogs hgonia, aq 

kamaTi imazea, unda iyos Tu ara 

wignSi guTani, Toxi da a. S. vin 

daobs, iyos, guTanic iyos, Toxic 

iyos, SeuZliaT, nusxa-xucuri gamoacxadon 

saxelmwifo damwerlobad 

an asomTavruli. SeZlebiT Sei- 

Zleba, magram azri amas ar aqvs. 

Tanamedrove cxovrebas sWirdeba 

Tanamedrove saxelmZRvanelo. Tanamedrove 

saxelmZRvanelo iqmneba 

Tanamedrove leqsikiT, Tanamedrove 

gramatikiT, Tanamedrove sintaqsiT, 

masSi Cndeba Tanamedrove 

realiebi. iq aseTi araferia da 

arc SeiZleba iyos. gasagebia, gogebaSvilis 

teqstia da adaptirebulia, 

magram rogoraa adaptirebuli, 

ar viciT imitom, rom, Tavis 

droze, grifi ver miiRo mag wignma, 

amitom, TavisTavad, arsebiTi 

xasiaTis Secdomaa warsulSi dabruneba. 

Tu vinmes hgonia, rom aq 

gogebaSvilis pativiscemazea laparaki, 

swored misi pativiscema iTxovs, 

rom ar gamovuqveynoT wigni, 

romelic moZvelebulia. rad unda 

amas damalva? is moZvelda ise, rogorc 

moZveldeba axlo momavalSi 

sxva wignebi. rac Seexeba enas, ena 

ar aris mocemuloba, es ar aris 

geometria, romelic damTavrda, 

rogorc mecniereba da SegiZlia 

dasva wertili. ena aris cocxali 

produqti. ena ganviTarebas ganicdis 

yovel momentSi. masSi mimdinareobs 

integraciisa da diferenciaciis 

procesebi, magram amis axsna 

Zalian Znelia baxtaZisTvis, 

romelsac hgonia, rom ena isaa, romelzec 

Tavad an biZina ivaniSvili 

laparakobs; an laparakobs ganaTlebis 

ministri, romelic parlamentSi 

gamovida, naxevari saaTi ilaparaka 

da ver gavarkvie, ra Tqva. 

Tu vinme ityvis, ra Tqva man parlamentSi, 

maSin me vityvi, rom gogebaSvilis 

„dedaenac” davabrunoT 

da mivandoT batiaSvils bavSvebis 

ganaTleba imitom, rom icis, rasac 

ambobs. warmodgena ar aqvT, ras 

akeTeben. isini arian Cveulebrivi 

retrogradebi. maT hgoniaT, rom 

yvelaferi, rac aris siaxle, rac 

aris modernuli, dakavSirebulia 

„nacionalur moZraobasTan”. amaSia 

mTeli magaTi filosofia. 

amitom isini dabrundebian ukan, 

male gamoacxadeben, rom asomTavruli 

unda SeviswavloT aucileblad 

da davurigoT bavSvebs da a. 

S. cudi ki ar aris, rom SeviswavloT, 

magram ratom unda iyos 

amaTi eqsperimentebis msxverpli 

sayovelTao sabavSvo programebi? 

ratom unda iyos eqsperimentis 

msxverpli pirvelklaseli, romelic 

skolaSi midis im imediT, rom 

raRacas iswavlis da mas wigni uSvebs 

muzeumSi?! iq iseTi nivTebia 

aRwerili, ZiriTadad, romelic mas 

TvaliT ar unaxavs da romelTa 

nawils Tavis cxovrebaSi verc naxavs, 

verc moixmars. Cvens droSi 

akvani unda iyos mTavari sakiTxi 

ganaTlebis sferoSi? bavSvebi, romlebic 

midian skolaSi, ukve maswavleblebs 

sjobnian Tanamedrove 

gajetebis flobaSi da informaciis 

mopovebis unarebSi. pirvelklaseli 

bavSvi jibeSi Caisvams skolis 

direqtors, aseve ganaTlebis ministrs, 

romelic TiTqos mag sferodanaa, 

magram mag sferoSic ise iqneba 

Caxeduli, rogorc sxvagan. baxtaZec, 

romlis sityva maxsovs frankfurtis 

wignis bazrobaze da iqidan 

vici, ra wignieric brZandeba. 

am pirvelklasel bavSvebs ToxiT 

da guTniT ver gaagoneb. diax, 

`Zalian kargi iqneba, Tu gogebaSvilsa da mis 

xsovnas ufro seriozuli damokidebulebiT 

miageben pativs da ara imiT, rom 

eleqtoraluri miznebisTvis sapampulao 

gaxdes, rac xSiria xolme saqarTveloSi~ 

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pampulaoba `dedaeniT~ 

„ai ia” aris genialuri aRmoCena da 

davtovoT... laTinur enas aRar 

vaswavliT ise, rogorc ciceroni 

aswavlida, radgan axali meTodebi 

Semovida. mkvdar enas aRar vaswavliT 

ise, rogorc adre da rogor 

gindaT, rom cocxali ena vaswavloT 

100 da meti wlis winandeli 

wigniT, romelic moZvelda? eg ki 

ara, 20 da 30-iani wlebis mwerlebis 

ena moZvelda da bavSvebi xandaxan 

xiTxiTeben, ise sasacilod JRers 

raRacebi dRevandeli gadmosaxedidan. 

rogor SeiZleba, is ena 

vaswavloT dRes? ra azri aqvs 

amas? 

principulad ar SeiZleba 21-e 

saukuneSi me-19 saukunis wigniT 

swavla... 

biZina ivaniSvili da dRevaneli 

mTavroba arian patriotebi? amis 

Tqma undaT? yvelaferi es imitom 

xdeba, rom rusi Camoiyvanes da savarZelSi 

Casves. axla am dasvrili 

saqmis gamokeTeba rogor SeiZleba 

patriotuli niadagiT, amaze zrunaven. 

ra patriotizmzea laparaki? 

sad arian qarTveli deputatebi? 

_ ruseTSi sxedan da maTi partniori 

xalxi ra patriotizmze laparakobs? 

gogebaSvili aq arafer Sua- 

Sia. axla gogebaSvili gaaxsendaT 

da kidev moifiqreben rame aseT 

Wkvianurs”, _ ganucxada levan 

berZeniSvilma qarTul internetgamocema 

„netgazeTs”. 

cnobisTvis: levan berZeniSvili 

profesiiT filologia. ase rom, 

misi azri am Temaze aSkarad sainteresoa, 

Tumca arc is unda daviviwyoT, 

rom Tavisi literaturuli 

Sefasebebis gamo batoni berZeniSvili 

kritikis obieqti araer- 

Txel gamxdara. sazogadoebis risxva 

ki gansakuTrebiT maSin daatyda, 

roca ramdenime wlis win ilia 

WavWavaZeze Tqva, gacilebiT kargi 

sazogado moRvawea, vidre _ mweralio. 

zogadad, levan berZeniSvili 

liberaluri ideebis mimdevaria 

da, Sesabamisad, misi Sexedulebebi 

da Sefasebebi, met-naklebad, puritanulad 

moazrovne adamianebisTvis, 

anu im kategoriis amomCevlebisTvis, 

romlebic fiqroben, 

rom, magaliTad, gansxvavebuli seqsualuri 

orientacia gadamdebia, 

kategoriulad miuRebelia. 

kargi, davuSvaT, rom levan 

berZeniSvili liberali da „pirwavardnili 

soroselia” da yvelafer 

qarTuls amitomac „ebrZvis”, 

magram ra vuyoT, magaliTad, 

fsiqolog naTia fanjikiZes, romelsac 

soroselobas veravin daswamebs? 

_ piriqiT, naTia qarTvelebis 

sayvareli mwerlis, guram fanjikiZis 

nabolara qaliSvilia da, 

Sesabamisad, erovnul ideebsa da 

idealebzea aRzrdili, magram vi- 

RacebisTvis gasakvirad, „dedaenasTan” 

dakavSirebiT naTia fanjikiZe 

levan berZeniSvilis mosazrebebs 

daeTaxma: 

„yovelTvis arasworad mimaCnda 

levan berZeniSvilis politikaSi 

yofna. gana imitom, rom ganaTlebuli 

xalxi ar minda politikaSi? 

aramed imitom, rom politikisgan 

Tavisufal pedagogs meti usmens 

sufTa gonebiT, winaswarganwyobebis 

gareSe. axla ki igi zogs mtrad 

miaCnia, zogs _ mokeTed da visac 

yvelaze metad gamoadgeboda misi 

leqciebi, SeiZleba swored mas 

hqondes daxuWuli yurebi. levan 

berZeniSvili, upirvelesad, aris 

`Tu gvinda, rom ukeTesi momavali SevqmnaT, cxadia, warsuli ar unda 

daviviwyoT, magram es imas rodi niSnavs, rom Tanamedroveobis nivelireba 

movaxdinoT, Torem Tu am gziT wavalT, maSin savsebiT dasaSvebi iqneba, rom 

istoriisa da tradiciebis gamoZaxiliT, magaliTad, qalTa da vaJTa skolebi 

gavxsnaT an, sulac, saswavlo dawesebulebebSi `lineikebi~ davabrunoT da 

mowafeebi gavrozgoT, Tan yvelaferi es imiT gavamarTloT, rom mtrulad 

gazrdili Svilebi moyvrebad gamogvadgebian!~ 

pedagogi, rac, vfiqrob, yvela 

drois umaRlesi wodebaa. is aswavlida 

ekas, Cems Svils da misi uzomod 

madlieri var, iseTi seriozuli 

wignebis kiTxva moandoma da 

daawyebina. eka ambobs xolme, STagonebis 

gamCeni maswavlebeliao. 

axla eka niu-iorkSi swavlobs 

klinikur fsiqologias da rom vekiTxebi, 

rogori maswavleblebi 

gyavs-meTqi, _ berZeniSvilisnairi 

cotao, _ mpasuxobs. 

gvaqvs saxlSi wignebi, gadmoi- 

Rebdnen TviTonac, magram verc 

erTi deda ver SeZlebs „mirekos” 

Svilebi wignebTan iseTi xalisiT, 

iseTi swori strategiiT, rogorc 

es karg pedagogs SeuZlia. gogebaSvili, 

udidesi ganmanaTlebeli, 

marTlac, gasxivosnebuli adamiani, 

yvela bavSvma da qarTvelma unda 

icodes, bevrad ukedac unda icodnen, 

vidre dRes ician, gamoyenebuli 

unda iyos misi biografiac saswavlo 

procesSi da „dedaenidanac” 

zogierTi ram SenarCunebuli da 

miuxedavad imisa, rom viziareb adamianebis 

sasowarkveTas _ axlis 

Semqmneli mecnieri dRes gvyavs ki? 

aba, ra vqnaT? Zveli moZvelda, axalze 

ra jgufi imuSavebs? _ magram, 

amave dros, erTi ram udavoa: 

dro icvleba da is yovelTvis icvleboda, 

„SuSanikis wamebis” eniT, 

Tundac rusTavelis eniT gogebaSvili 

aRar laparakobda... rogorc 

epoqis tempis, cxovrebis axali 

pirobebisa da saazrovno amocanebis 

cvlilebas yvelaze metad asaxavs 

teqnologiebi, tansacmeli, arqiteqtura, 

xelovneba, yvelaze 

metad mentalur, kognitur cvlilebebs 

avlens da cxadyofs ena. 

mSobliuri ena, romlis bgerebsac 

Cvili ismens jer kidev maSin, 

sanam cnobiereba sityvebad gauformdeba, 

sxeulebriv, motorikis 

donezec ki gansazRvravs adamianis 

fizikur da fsiqikur poziciebs 

da aqedanve, aracnobier doneze 

aireklavs cvlilebebsac. enas vcvliT 

Cven, Tu ena gvcvlis Cven, 

drois dinebaSi dakvirveba calke 

mecnierebaa. SeCerebuli dro ki ar 

arsebobs, samwuxarod, arc maSin, 

roca yvelaze bednier wuTebSi 

vcxovrobT”, _ dawera naTia fanjikiZem 

socialur qselSi. 

sxvaTa Soris, adamianebis nawilis 

azriT, gogebaSvilis „dedaena” 

ganaTlebis qarTuli meTodia, 

Tumca 1865 wels gamocemuli saxelmZRvanelos 

_ „qarTuli anbani 

da pirveli sakiTxavi wigni moswavleTaTvis” 

Tavad gogebaSvili 

wers, rom anbani zolotovis meTodiTaa 

Sedgenili. yvelaze ucnauri 

ki is gaxlavT, rom vasili zolotovi 

rusi swavluli iyo, romelmac 

zustad im meTodiT, romelic 

gogebaSvilma gamoiyena, 1860 

wels erT-erTi pirveli anbani da 

sakiTxavi wigni gamosca. 

„me-19 saukunis 50-60-ian wleb- 

Si evropaSi, aSS-sa da ruseTis imperiaSi 

analizuri meTodis bumi 

TiTqmis Tanadroulad daiwyo. 

ideebi, rogorc ityvian, „haerSi 

trialebda”. ar darCenila gavleniani 

ganmanaTlebeli an pedagogi, 

am ferxulSi rom ar Cabmuliyo da 

analizuri saanbano saxelmZRvanelo 

ar gamoeca. amdenad, 1865 wels 

gogebaSvilis pirvel sakiTxav wignSi 

gamoyenebuli an, Tundac, 1876 

wlis „dedaenaSi” gatarebuli me- 

Todi arc vasili zolotovisa da 

miT umetes, arc iakob gogebaSvilis 

mogonili ar aris”, _ miiCnevs 

literatori qeTo niniZe, romelmac 

gasuli wlis maisSi gamoaqveyna 

statia: „gogebaSvilis meTodis 

paradoqsi”. 

am stataSi niniZe wers, rom 

„dedaenam”, rogorc qarTuli enis 

siwmindis dacvisa da ganaTlebis 

simbolom, jer ruseTis imperiSi, 

Semdeg ki sabWoTa reJimis dros 

saqarTvelos nacionaluri identobis 

SenarCunebis saqmeSi mniSvnelovani 

funqcia Seasrula, Tumca 

Tanamedrove bavSvis saWiroebebs 

naklebad exmianeba: 

„ara imdenad meToduri acdenaa, 

ramdenadac Tematuri, leqsikurfrazeologiuri 

imitom, rom is 

„dedaena” absoluturad sxva socialuri, 

kulturuli gamowvevisTvis 

da miznobrivi jgufisTvis iqmneboda 

da axla sul sxva mocemuloba 

gvaqvs. meeWveba, „dedaenis” 

rekonstruqciaze saubrisas mxedvelobaSi 

hqondeT is, rom wigni 

morgebuli unda iyos dRevandeli 

da ara _ saukuniswina bavSvis interesebs, 

yofasa da leqsikas”. 

sxvaTa Soris, iakob gogebaSvilis 

„dedaenam” 2011 wels, grifirebis 

konkursSi, moZvelebuli 

meTodologiis gamo, grifi ver 

moipova, Tumca „iakob gogebaSvilis 

sazogadoeba” irwmuneba, rom 

gogebaSvilis „dedaena” Tavis 

droze grifirebis sistemaSi arsebul 

ukanonobas Seewira. 2011 wlidan 

moyolebuli es sazogadoeba 

skolebSi „dedaenis” dabrunebas 

iTxovda da gasul wels Temaze _ 

„gadavarCinoT gogebaSvilis „dedaena”; 

davubrunoT igi qarTul 

skolas!” _ Sekrebac ki gamarTa. 

„iakob gogebaSvilis sazogadoeba 

grZnobs pasuxismgeblobasa 

da valdebulebas iakob gogebaSvi- 

lis memkvidreobisa da erovnuli 

skolis mimarT”, _ acxadebdnen 

zemoxsenebul Sekrebaze „iakob 

gogebaSvilis sazogadoebis” warmomadgenlebi. 

skolebSi iakob gogebaSvilis 

„dedaenis” dabrunebas, sxvaTa Soris, 

saqarTvelos sapatriarqoc mxars 

uWerda. yovel SemTxvevaSi, gasuli 

wlis oqtomberSi sruliad 

saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqi 

ilia meore iakob gogebaSvilis 

saxelobis pedagogTa kavSiris 

wevrebsa da saqarTvelos sxvadasxva 

kuTxeSi moRvawe „iakob gogebaSvilis 

sazogadoebis” warmomadgenlebs 

Sexvda. am Sexvedraze momavali 

Taobis sulier da inteleqtualur 

aRzrdaze ismjeles. 

„ilia II-m pedagogebs mravalwliani 

SromisaTvis madloba gadauxada 

da gaiziara maTi pozicia 

saskolo programaSi iakob gogebaSvilis 

„deda enis” Setanis aucileblobis 

Sesaxeb”, _ iuwyeboda 

maSin qarTuli internetmedia. 

erTi sityviT, xelisuflebam 

skolebSi „dedaenis” dabrunebiT 

xalxis guli ki moigo, magram ganaTlebis 

specialistebis umetesoba 

am gadawyvetilebas akritikebs 

da erTmniSvnelovnad ambobs, 

rom „ocnebam” qveyanaSi arsebuli 

mZime politikuri krizisis fonze 

Cveulebrivi piarnabiji gadadga. 

„Zalian kargi iqneba, Tu gogebaSvilsa 

da mis xsovnas ufro seriozuli 

damokidebulebiT miageben 

pativs da ara imiT, rom eleqtoraluri 

miznebisTvis sapampulao 

gaxdes, rac xSirad xdeba xolme 

saqarTveloSi”, _ ambobs ganaTlebis 

mkvlevari rezo afxazava. 

misive TqmiT, iakob gogebaSvili 

siaxleebze iyo orientirebuli. 

Sesabamisad, gogebaSvili cocxali 

rom iyos da „dedaenas” dRes werdes, 

aucileblad Tanamdrove 

meTodologiiT ixelmZRvanelebda. 

ise, CvenTvis rom vTqvaT, XXI 

saukuneSi sxva gamowvevebia. Sesabamisad, 

sxva interesebi aqvT da, 

albaT, cota gauWirdebaT, rom 

mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi mxolod 

Tasze, Toxsa da jamze ilaparakon. 

Cven, ra Tqma unda, specialistebi 

ar varT da ganaTlebis muSakTa 

kompetenciaSi ver CavereviT, magram 

erTi ram faqtia: Tu gvinda, 

rom ukeTesi momavali SevqmnaT, 

cxadia, warsuli ar unda daviviwyoT, 

magram es imas rodi niSnavs, 

rom Tanamedroveobis nivelireba 

movaxdinoT, Torem Tu am gziT 

wavalT, maSin savsebiT dasaSvebi 

iqneba, rom istoriisa da tradiciebis 

gamoZaxiliT, magaliTad, 

qalTa da vaJTa skolebi gavxsnaT 

an, sulac, saswavlo dawesebulebebSi 

„lineikebi” davabrunoT da 

mowafeebi gavrozgoT, Tan yvelaferi 

es imiT gavamarTloT, rom 

mtrulad gazrdili Svilebi moyvrebad 

gamogvadgebian! 

ase rom, skolebSi „dedaenis” 

dabruneba SeiZleba, is SemTxveva 

namdvilad ar aris, romelzec vambobT 

xolme, yvelaferi axali kargad 

daviwyebuli Zveliao! 

yvelaze cudi ki mainc is aris, 

rom am ambavs piaris elementebi 

dahkravs, Tumca zogjer isec xdeba, 

rom yvelaze kargi idea yvelaze 

negatiuri Sedegebis momtania xolme! 

mokled, erTi qarTuli andazisa 

ar iyos, „ocnebis” win xramia, 

ukan ki _ mewyeri! 

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nepotizmisa da korufciis skandaluri 

Tema, romelzedac dRes „qroni- 


ka+~ apirebs saubars, SesaZloa, 

zogadi politikuri konteqstidan 

amovardnilad mogeCvenoT, arada, Tu kargad davfiqrdebiT, am 

qveynis erT-erTi mTavari problema centralur xelisufleba- 

ze damokidebuli TviTmmarTvelobebia, romelic saqmeSi Caxe- 

dulT Tanamedrove feodalizms mogagonebT, anu „qronika+~-is 

respondenti, duSeTis raionis saTemo kavSirebis asociaciis (ska) 

Tavmjdomare giorgi bedoSvili Riad da pirdapir ambobs, rom 

adgilobrivi xelisuflebis wamomadgenlebs centralur xelisu- 

flebasTan qveSevrdomuli damokidebuleba aqvT. 

amas garda, winamdebare inter- 

viudan imis Sesaxebac SeityobT, 

Tu rogor arTmevs finansTa min- 

istris moadgile mixeil dundua 

adgilobriv mosaxleobas umTav- 

res resurss da imis nacvlad, 

rom, magaliTad, laris gamyarebaze 

zrunavdes, saxelmwifos xarjze, 

anu sakuTari mdgomareobidan 

gamomdinare, pirad keTildReobas 

iwyobs. aseve giorgi ba- 

daSvili erTi saintereso faqtis 

Sesaxebac gviyveba, kerZod: duSe- 

Tis sakrebulos Tavmjdomare de- 

mografiulad daclil sofel 

axali osebisTvis saxelis Secv- 

laze gaurkveveli motiviT ambobs 

uars. arada, es sofeli cxinvalis 

regions esazRvreba da im dros, 

roca axalgori rusebis mieraa 

okupirebuli, rusebisa da osi 

separatistebisTvis soflis saxelma 

SesaZloa, garkveuli okupan- 

turi vnebebi aRZras. 

_ dRes TviTmmarTvelobaSi 

mTavari problema ra aris? 

_ problema uamravia, dawyebuli 

xarveziani kanonmdeblobiT, 

dasrulebuli misi aRsrulebis 

meqanizmebiT, magram mTavari mainc 

instituciisadmi cnobieri damokidebulebaa, 

Tu ras warmoadgens 

da ra funqcia gvakisria TviTmmarTvelobis 

ganxorcielebaSi. samwuxarod, 

mxolod im adamianebze 

ar vsaubrob, romlebic TviTmmarTvel 

erTeulebSi cxovroben da 

municipaluri xelisuflebis saqmianobis 

Sedegebs sakuTar Tavze 

aRiqvamen, aramed, upirvelesad, im 

adamianebzec, romlebic aRmasrulebel 

Tu warmomadgenlobiT 

organoebSi swored adgilobrivi 

xelisuflebis saxeebi arian _ Tvi- 

TmmarTvelobis ganxorcieleba 

pirdapir maT kompetenciasac ganekuTvneba. 

zogadad, TviTmmarTveloba, 

rogorc administrirebis instituciuri 

warmonaqmni, qarTuli 

cnobierebisTvis ucxo namdvilad 

araa. ilia WavWavaZe „saerTo niadagis 

TeoriaSi” qveynis mowyobis sakiTxebsa 

da komlze dafuZnebul 

xodabunur meurneobebs exeba, rac 

sxva araferia, Tu ara Tanamedrove 

gagebis administraciuli erTeulebi. 

ufro Sors rom wavideT, yvelam 

kargad viciT, rom, istoriulad, 

qveyana saomar yaidaze gvqonda mowyobili. 

TiToeul regions eris- 

Tavi marTavda, romelsac, Tavis 

mxriv, sakuTar ierarqiaSi myofi 

Tavadebi emorCilebodnen da ase- 

Ti administrireba monarqiuli 

saqarTvelos TviTmmarTvelobis 

forma gaxldaT. 

damoukidebelma saqarTvelom 

evropuli TviTmmarTvelobis 

kuTxiT pirveli nabijebi ki 1998 

wels, municipaluri warmomadgenlobiTi 

organos, anu sakrebulos 

arCevnebiT gadadga. es nabiji ganpirobebuli 

iyo qveynis evrointegraciiTa 

da mmarTvelobis iseTi 

demokratiuli instituciis SemotaniT, 

romelic qveynis marTvis 

evropul modelTan kidev ufro 

dagvaaxlovebda, Tumca mas Semdeg 

„vbuqsaobT” da fasaduri cvlilebebis 

miuxedavad, Sinaarsobrivad 

didad win ver wavediT, radgan yvelaze 

mTavari _ realuri TviTmmarTvelobis 

funqcia _ konstituciur 

survilsa da sakanonmdeblo 

SesaZleblobas Sorisaa 

dakarguli. 

_ ras gulisxmobT? 

_ centraluri xelisufleba ar 

Tmobs marTvis sadaveebs da, Sesabamisad, 

municipaluri politikuri 

elferi centraluri xelisuflebis 

sarkisebur anarekls warmoadgens. 

_ Tqveni azriT, xelisufleba 

ratom gaurbis, rom teritoriul 

erTeulebs realuri TviTm- 

marTveloba misces? 

_ es erTmniSvnelovnad politikuri 

faqtori, anu politikuri 

kontrolia municipalitetze, rac, 

saboloo jamSi, yvela xelisuflebis 

saarCevno Sedegze pragmatul 

gaTvlas warmoadgenda da warmoadgens. 

Sors rom ar wavideT, gadavxedoT 

saqarTvelos parlamentis 

maJoritar deputatTa politikur 

kuTvnilebas, maTi absoluturi 

umravlesoba xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenelia. arc is daviviwyoT, 

rom maJoritaruli xmebi, eleqtoralurad, 

proporciuli xmebis 

adekvaturia da amitomac xelisuflebis 

politikur interesze 

morgebul pazls viRebT. 

am mxriv sayovelTao proporciuli 

arCevnebisa da maJoritarizmis 

gauqmebis dapireba udavod wingadadgmuli 

nabijia, Tumca am sakiTxze 

mosaxleobis mimarT pirobis 

mimcems, samwuxarod, igi araerTxel 

daurRvevia. 

amasTan, mniSvnelovania ekonomikuri 

faqtoric, anu realuri 

TviTmmarTveloba sakuTar TavSi 

ekonomikuri decentralizaciis 

elementsac gulisxmobs. erTi 

mxriv, TiTqos centraluri biuje- 

finansTa ministris 

moadgile mixeil 

dunduas kompaniam 

istoriul taZars 

Robe Semoavlo 

ti TviTmmarTveli erTeulis biujetis 

subsidirebas saWiroebisamebr 

axdens, magram, meore mxriv, municipalitetis 

masStabiT arsebuli 

uZravi qonebis udides nawils, 

saxelmwifo qonebis marTvis saagentos 

meSveobiT, Tavadve akontrolebs. 

aseTi midgoma ki xels uSlis 

ara mxolod TviTmmarTvelobis, 

rogorc instituciis ganviTarebas, 

aramed, aferxebs municipalur 

ganviTarebasac ekonomikuri 

TvalsazrisiT. 

ekonomikis saministros ise Seu- 

Zlia gankargos municipalitetis 

teritoriaze arsebuli qoneba, 

rom miRebuli gadawyvetilebaze 

am teritoriaze mcxovrebi adamianebis 

damokidebulebiT arc ki 

dainteresdes. 

_ konkretuli faqtebis moyva- 

na SegiZliaT? 

_ diax, SemiZlia. araerTi magaliTi 

gvixilavs saqarTvelos mas- 

StabiT, Tu rogor aprotestebs 

adgilobrivi mosaxleoba soflis 

teritoriaze arsebuli sasoflosameurneo 

miwebis heqtrobiT am 

sofelTan absoluturad SemxeblobaSi 

armqone pirebze gasxvisebas. 

sxvaTa Soris, es pirebi xSirad 

ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebi arian 

xolme. arada, meore mxriv, saxelmwifo 

„zrunavs” sasoflo-sameurneo 

kooperativebis ganviTarebaze. 

sainteresoa, adgilze kooperatiuli 

fermeruli meurneoba rogor 

unda ganviTardes, roca centraluri 

xelisufleba isedac mciremiwiani 

mTis sasoflo-sameurneo 

savargulebis fondidan umTavres 

resurss sakuTari Sexedulebisamebr 

gankargavs? 

erT magaliTs moviyvan, romelic 

naTlad asaxavs centraluri xelisuflebisgan 

duSeTis municipalitetis 

TviTmmarTvelobisadmi 

gamoxatul kvazidamokidebulebas. 

kerZod, lafanaanTkaris administraciul 

erTeulSi sofeli zemoubani 

arsebobs, sadac gviani Sua 

saukuneebis droindeli, komunistebis 

mier dangreuli qviTkiris 

taZari saxelmwifosgan yuradRebas 

saWiroebs. am taZars, sawyis etapze, 

kulturuli memkvidreobis 

statusi mainc unda mieniWos, magram 

iciT, ra xdeba? _ modis am 

teritoriaze mcire xnis win daregistrirebuli 

Sps „maunTgraundi”, 

daaxloebiT, 20 heqtramde sasoflo-sameurneo 

miwas, romelzedac 

formalurad 15-wliani ijaris 

xelSekruleba aqvs da Robes avlebs. 

amasTan, ise skrupulozurad 

udgeba mravalwlovani mcenareebis 

dargvis sakiTxs, rogorc mesakuTre. 

aqedan cxadia, rom es gegma 

15-wlian sargeblobaze araa gaTvlili, 

radgan srul msxmoiarobas, 

magaliTad, nuSi da kakali meqvsemerve 

wels iZleva. 

yvelaze ucnauri ki isaa, rom am 

Sps-s 31% wilis mflobeli saqarTvelos 

finansTa ministris moadgile 

mixeil dunduaa. 

vsvam ritorikul kiTxvas: batoni 

ministris moadgile, saxelmwifo 

moxelis rangSi laris kursis 

gamyarebaze unda zrunavdes 

Tu, adgilobrivi mosaxleobisTvis 

umTavresi resursis warTmeviT, 

sakuTar keTildReobaze? 

samwuxarod, aseTi SemTxveva araerTia, 

rac mniSvnelovnad akninebs 

TviTmmarTvelobis xarisxsa da 

SesaZleblobebs. 

_ batono giorgi, yvelaferi es 

gasagebia, magram TviTmmarTvelo- 

ba moqalaqeebisTvis mainc ra 

sikeTis momtania? 

_ procesze dakvirveba cxadyofs, 

rom SeuZlebelia, TviTmmarTveloba 

realuri da Sedegiani 

samoqalaqo seqtoris, anu moqalaqeTa 

CarTulobis gareSe iyos. Sedegze 

orientirebuli TviTmmarTveloba 

samoqalaqo seqtoris mxridan 

konkretul sakiTxebze monitoringisa 

da advokatirebis ganxorcielebas 

niSnavs formuliT _ 

moqalaqeebisTvis, moqalaqeebTan 

erTad da moqalaqeebis meSveobiT. 

bolo dros samoqalaqo aqtivizmis 

iseTi evropuli platformaa 

aqtiuri, romelic e. w. LEAD- 

ER-is saxeliT ikidebs fexs, Sesabamisad, 

aqa-iq lokaluri ganvi- 

Tarebis jgufebi da adgilobrivi 

ganviTarebis koncefciebic iqmneba, 

sadac asaxulia ara mxolod 

lokaluri SesaZleblobebi, aramed 

adgilobriv mkvidrTa CarTulobis 

meqanizmebic, magram arsebul 

saWiroebebsa da gamowvevebTan 

mimarTebiT, yvelaferi es zRva- 

Si wveTia. 

municipalitetis meria da sakrebulo, 

rogorc TviTmmarTvelobis 

ganmxorcielebeli aRmasrulebeli 

da warmomadgenlobiTi organoebi, 

sazogadoebrivad produqtiulebi 

maSin gaxdebian, roca saxelmwifos 

mxridan decentralizaciis 

mimarTulebiT kidev ufro 

siRrmiseuli nabijebi gadaidgmeba. 

ra Tqma unda, es imas ar niSnavs, 

rom moqmedi kanonmdebloba maT 

butaforiuli arsebobis nebas 

rTavs, magram cxadia, TviTmmarTveli 

municipalitetebis yvelaze 

dabali mmarTvelobiTi rgoli, 

administraciuli erTeulebis saxiT, 

Tavs ver arTmevs im gamowvevebs, 

rogoricaa, magaliTad: komunaluri 

da sagzao infrastruqtura, 

urbanuli sakiTxebi, soflad 

ekonomikuri diversifikacia, sameurneo 

teqnikis deficiti, mZime 

socialuri garemo, kulturuli 

ganuviTarebloba, yofiTi pirobebis 

minimalizacia, saxelmwifo servisebze 

dabali wvdoma, demografiuli 

regresi da a. S.,. yvelaferi 

es ki Seuqcevad migraciasa da 

soflebis dacarielebas ganapirobebs. 

ase rom, Tqvens kiTxvaze pasuxi 

calsaxaa: realuri TviTmmarTveloba 

Cem mier CamoTvlil problemebs 

Tu ar moagvarebs, mkveTrad 

Semoatrialebs mainc. 

_ moCvenebiTi TviTmmarTvelo- 

ba demokratiis ganviTarebasac 

xom ar aferxebs? 

_ rogorc formaluri mmarTveloba 

aferxebs qveynis ganviTarebas, 

aseve moCvenebiTi TviTmmarTvelobac 

municipaluri ganuviTare- 

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lobis mTavari safrTxea. demokratiis 

mTavari faseuloba xom xalxis 

mmarTvelobaa, im xalxis, romelic 

xelisuflebis wyaros warmoadgens. 

Tu adgilobrivi xelisufleba 

fiqrobs, rom is srulad 

angariSvaldebulia ara sakuTari 

amomrCevlis, aramed centraluri 

xelisuflebis winaSe, demokratiis 

mTavari faseuloba, anu xalxi, 

TavisTavad ignorirdeba! 

ai, moCvenebiTi TviTmmarTvelobis, 

demokratiuli Tu konstituciuri 

principebis gauTvaliswineblobisa 

da arakompetenturobis 

erTi magaliTi: klasikuri gagebiT, 

demokratia kanonis uzenaesobaa, 

romelic vrceldeba qveynis suverenitetis 

farglebSi. amave dros, 

realobaa, rom Cveni qveyanis 20% 

okupirebulia ruseTis mier, rac 

samarTlebrivad asaxulia kanonSi 

okupirebuli teritoriebis Sesaxeb. 

am dros duSeTis municipalitetSi 

arsebobs demografiulad 

daclili sofeli _ „axali osebi”, 

romelic komunisturi ideologiis 

gavleniT darqmeuli toponimia. 

vesaubre sakrebulos Tavmjdomares, 

oficialuradac mivmarTe 

toponimis cvlilebis moTxovniT, 

aseve vesaubre administraciuli 

erTeulis deputats, sxva Tanamdebobis 

pirebs, magram faqtia, erTi 

wlis ganmavlobaSi advokatirebis 

Cemma mcdelobam Sedegi ver moitana. 

_ ratom? 

_ sakrebulos Tavmjdomarem 

oficialurad momwera, geografiuli 

obieqtebis saxeldebis Taobaze 

iniciativis wardgenaze uflebamosili 

municipalitetis meri, 

municipalitetis sakrebulos wevri, 

sajaro reestris erovnuli 

saagento, municipalitetis amomrCevelTa 

1% an sakrebulos mier 

gansazRvruli sxva subieqtiao. mokled, 

vsvam SekiTxvas: sakrebulos 

Tavmjdomare sakrebulos wevri 

araa da qveyanaSi arsebuli politikuri 

konteqsti an demokratiul 

faseulobaTa dacva ar unda 

afiqrebdes? 

saqarTvelos moqalaqe eTnikur 

osebTan sawinaaRmdego, cxadia, 

araferi maqvs, piriqiT, bevr maTganTan 

vmegobrob, magram aq saubari 

saxelmwifoebrivi poziciebis gaziarebazea. 

aseve nu dagvaviwydeba, 

rom axalgoris municipaliteti 

2008 wlis Semdeg ruseTis mieraa 

okupirebuli da de faqto 

cxinvalis kontrols aris daqvemdebarebuli, 

duSeTis municipaliteti 

ki administraciulad esaz- 

Rvreba regions, sadac osuri separatizmi 

mZvinvarebs. saubaria mWadijvris, 

gremisxevis, ananuris, 

WarTlisa da fasanauris administraciul 

erTeulebze, maT gada- 

Rma ki rusuli samxedro bazebia 

ganlagebuli. am bazebidan da cxinvalis 

regionidan separatistebi, 

ase vTqvaT, Seyvarebulis TvalebiT 

ar gviyureben. ase rom, adgilobrivi 

xelisuflebis pozicia 

srulebiT gaugebaria. 

_ yvelafer amis garda, TviTm- 

marTvelobis erT-erTi mTavari 

problema, rogorc cnobilia, gam- 

Wvirvalobaa. batono giorgi, Tqv- 

eni dakvirvebiT, municipalitete- 

bi informaciis damalvas ratom 

cdiloben? 

_ amis mizezi, albaT, arakompetenturoba, 

nepotizmi da korufciaa, 

rac, adre Tu gvian, TvalSi 

sacemi mainc xdeba. mosaxleobis 

mxridan adgilobrivi xelisuflebis 

saqmianobasa Tu biujetis gankargvaze 

maRali sazogadoebrivi 

interesi arsebobs, Tavad xelisuflebis 

warmomadgenlebi ki dainteresebulni 

arian, rom sakuTari 

bneli mxareebi dafaron da pozicionirebas 

SedarebiT naTeli 

mxridan ecadon. 

_ e. i., TviTmmarTvelobebSi 

korufciis done maRalia? 

_ Tu vityviT, korufcia ar 

arsebobso, maSin gamodis, rom sazogadoebrivi 

ukmayofileba realobas 

aSkarad acdenilia, rac 

simarTles ar Seesabameba. Tu vityviT, 

rom korufcia arsebobs, 

maSin kiTxvis niSnebi samarTaldamcveli 

organoebis mier uflebamosilebis 

arajerovnad Sesrulebisa 

da, garkveuli TvalsazrisiT, 

Tanamonawileobis mimarTulebi- 

Tac ki Cndeba. 

ai, magaliTad, 2017 wlamde 

duSeTis municipalitetis meris 

uflebamosilebas batoni gizo 

Coxeli axorcielebda. Cemi TvaliT 

maqvs nanaxi saxelmwifo auditis 

daskvna, sadac saubaria municipaluri 

biujetidan Tanxebis aramiznobriv 

xarjvaze, es Tanxebi ki 

„STambeWdavad” gamoiyureba. Sedegi? 

_ aranairi, radgan auditis 

daskvnas mxolod rekomendaciis 

saxe aqvs, prokuratura ki dums. 

axla, vinmes eWvi epareba, rom dokumenti, 

romelic CemTvisaa xelmisawvdomi, 

prokuraturisTvis dafaruli 

iqneba? 

diax, TviTmmarTveloba korufciaSi 

ixrCoba da, Sesabamisad, Sedegic 

saxezea _ sruli ganuvi- 

Tarebloba! 

_ susti TviTmmarTveloba gacilebiT 

advili samarTavia da yve- 

lafer imaze, razedac Tqven saubrobT, 

xelisufleba, albaT, ami- 

tom xuWavs Tvals. 

_ aseTi midgoma, instituciuri 

TvalsazrisiT, nonsensia, magram 

Cveni viTarebidan gamomdinare, 

mware realobaa! instituciurad 

regionis saxelmwifo rwmunebulis 

aparati adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobisa 

da centraluri xelisu- 

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faqtebi TviTmmarTvelobebSi 

`Sors rom ar wavideT, gadavxedoT saqarTvelos parlamentis maJoritar 

deputatTa politikur kuTvnilebas, maTi absoluturi umravlesoba 

xelisuflebis warmomadgenelia. arc is daviviwyoT, rom maJoritaruli 

xmebi, eleqtoralurad, proporciuli xmebis adekvaturia da amitomac 

xelisuflebis politikur interesze morgebul pazls viRebT. 

am mxriv sayovelTao proporciuli arCevnebisa da maJoritarizmis gauqmebis 

dapireba udavod wingadadgmuli nabijia, Tumca am sakiTxze mosaxleobis 

mimarT pirobis mimcems, samwuxarod, igi araerTxel daurRvevia~ 

flebis kveTis adgilia, sadac regionis 

ganviTarebis sakiTxebi unda 

ixilebodes. realurad ki Znelad 

warmosadgenia, rom dRevandeli 

TviTmmarTvelobis pirobebSi vinme 

SeiZleba, zemodan wamosuli 

politikuri direqtivis winaaRmdeg 

wavides. metic, meqmneba STabe- 

Wdileba, rom municipaluri politikuri 

elitebis didi nawili 

politikur „botebs” warmoadgens, 

romelTac erTaderTi funqcia 

aqvT _ usityvo morCileba. 

centrisadmi usityvod morCili 

adgilobrivi xelisufali cudi 

xelisufalia, romelic verasodes 

SeZlebs moqalaqeTa moTxovnebisa 

da municipaluri SesaZleblobebis 

Tanxvedras. 

mokled, susti TviTmmarTveloba 

advili samarTavia, magram 

Tan negatiuri Sedegi _ sistemis 

lpoba axlavs! 

_ batono giorgi, duSeTis mu- 

nicipaliteti mTis regionia. mTis 

kanonic, ase Tu ise, moqmedebs, magram 

mosaxleoba mainc mZime socialur 

pirobebSi cxovrobs. ama- 

Si damnaSave adgilobrivi xelisuflebaa 

Tu centraluri da saer- 

Tod, ra aris dRes mTis mosaxle- 

obis umTavresi problema? 

_ Znelia, problemaTa is CamonaTvali, 

romelic mTaSi arsebobs, 

erTi sityvaSi Cavatio. 

centralur xelisuflebas 

sruli politikuri da ekonomikuri 

kontroli aqvs, Sesabamisad, 

yvelaferze pasuxismgeblobac mas 

mouwevs. mTis kanoni SesaniSnavi 

novaciaa, magram masSi asaxuli Se- 

RavaTebi imdenad sasaciloa, rom 

Sinaarsobrivad xelisuflebis ufro 

cudi reklamaa, vidre mis mier 

dawesebuli mamotivirebeli saSeRavaTo 

garemo. 

alpebSi, roca Sveicariis mTavrobam 

demografiuli problema 

dainaxa, mosaxleobas 2 evrod, iq 

mudmivi cxovrebis sanacvlod, ise- 

Ti saxlebi SesTavaza, rogorSic 

Cveni uamravi korumpirebuli Cinovniki 

siamovnebiT icxovrebda. 

Cven ki gvinda, mTaSi mudmivi 

mosaxle Sps-s sagadasaxado SeRa- 

vaTiT SevaCeroT. ise, mTis soflebSi 

bevri Sps gegulebaT? an 

Sveba mTis statusis SeRavaTia? 

mTaSi xalxi gaWirvebulad cxovrobs, 

miT ufro is, visac did 

dasaxlebul punqtebTan stabiluri 

Sexeba ar aqvs. soflis meurneobis 

saministros programebi araefeqtianad 

muSaobs da misi sargebeli 

xalxisTvis gaurkvevelia. 

ise, socialurma programam 

Sromisunariani mosaxleobis nawili 

gaazarmaca, Sromisuunaros ki 

adekvatur daxmarebas ar awvdis. 

saxelmwifos aqvs imis resursi, 

rom mTas ukeT mixedos, miT ufro, 

turistuli motivaciidan gamomdinare, 

magram saxelmwifo seqtorSi 

dasaqmebuli bevri profesionali 

specialistisa da 7-wliani 

fafxuris miuxedavad, mainc ver 

Sedga da amas logikuri axsnac 

aqvs, anu kolaboracionistuli 

poziciebidan gamomdinare, qveynis 

ganviTarebis erovnul-saxelmwifoebrivi 

motivacia ar gaaCnia! 

_ Zalian mZafri Sefasebaa! 

_ SeiZleba, magram municipalitetis 

politikuri elita, iSviaTi 

gamonaklisebis garda, ver acnobierebs, 

saerTod sadaa. 

ai, magaliTad, bulaCaurSi adgilobrivebisgan 

movismine, Woportis 

administraciuli erTeulis 

warmomadgeneli duSeTis sakrebuloSi 

erT mcxovrebs daemuqra, 

rom bunebriv airs misi Tanxmobis 

gareSe ver Seiyvanda, radgan misi 

amomrCeveli ar iyo. am fonze, vinmes 

aqvs iluzia, rom duSeTi progresirdeba? 

SarSan davinteresdi, 

Tu ratom darCa duSeTi ENPARDis 

programis miRma da aRmoCnda, 

rom ramdenime wlis win am donori 

organizaciis TavSekaveba duSeTis 

municipalitetis pasiurobam ganapiroba, 

arada, xevsureTisa da mTiuleTis 

mxridan sazRvrispira regioni 

varT agresor ruseTsa da 

mis marionetTan. 

erTi sityviT, sasaubro Zalian 

bevria, gasakeTebeli _ ufro bevri, 

magram dRes duSeTis municipalitets 

is xelisufleba hyavs, 

romelsac araTu mniSvnelovani 

Zvrebis moxdena SeuZlia, aramed 

martiv toponimur sakiTxze reagirebac 

uWirs. 

sxvaTa Soris, saTemo kavSirebis 

asociacias administraciuli 

erTeulebisa da, zogadad, municipalitetis 

daCqarebul ganviTarebasTan 

dakavSirebiT ramdenime 

proeqti aqvs da vcdilobT, axlo 

momavalSi iseT politikur ZalasTan 

viTanamSromloT, visSic menejeruli 

gadawyvetilebebis adekvatur 

unars, dasavlur faseulobebsa 

da okupantisadmi antagonizms 

vxedavT. 

_ batono giorgi, yvela xel- 

isufleba debda pirobas, rom 

TviTmmarTvelobebs TmmarTvelobebs realur dam- 

oukideblobas miscemda, magram 

ase ar moxda. metic, „ocnebam” 

TviTmmarTvel qalaqebs es sta- 

tusic gauuqma. amas riT xsniT? 

_ zedapirulad, es procesi, 

statuss vgulisxmob, uflebamosilebaTa 

gaorebad Sefasda, magram, 

realurad, TiToeuli TviTmmarTveli 

qalaqi da municipaluri 

centri, Sesabamisad, centraluri 

biujetis Semosavlis wyaroa. amdenad, 

ar arsebobda am wyaros centraluridan 

municipalur biujetSi 

gadadinebis politikuri an 

ekonomikuri survili an orive 

erTad. 

_ municipalitetebSi TviTmmarTveloba 

maJoritaris erTg- 

vari qveSevrdomic xom araa? 

_ saubris dasawyisSi istoriuli 

saqarTvelos saomar yaidaze 

mowyobis wesi vaxsene. maJoritaruli 

sistemac Tanamedrove feodal- 

Ta klasia, oRond _ ufunqcio, 

romelic xelisuflebis TuTiyuSis 

movaleobas asrulebs. 

oligarqatis araformalurma 

mmarTvelobam sajaro samsaxurSi 

batonymuri filosofia daamkvidra 

da municipaluri rangis xelisufalni 

saxelmwifo rangis xelisufals 

qveSevrdomulad miageben 

pativs! 

_ problema isic xom ar aris, 

rom xalxma TviTmmarTvelobis 

sikeTe bolomde ar icis? 

_ amas winaT mcxeTa-mTianeTis 

regionuli ganviTarebis saagentos 

organizebul seminars daveswari, 

sadac soflad ekonomikuri diversifikaciis 

strategia ganixileboda. 

srulad viziareb xedvas, rom 

zustad unda ganisazRvros mizani 

da Semdeg, amocanad miznisken siaruli 

daisaxo, magram am mizans, sityvebis 

garda, didi investirebac 

sWirdeba, raTa sasurveli Sedegi 

dadges. centralur xelisuflebas 

SeuZlia, saamisod resursi gamonaxos, 

magram ar akeTebs. 

TviTmmarTvelobis amocanaa, 

rom kargi menejmenti ganaxorcielos 

da im geografiul arealSi, 

sadac misi uflebamosileba vrceldeba, 

kargi meurne iyos, magram 

realoba calsaxad gansxvavebulia. 

municipalitetebSi kompetenciisa 

da uflebamosilebis jerovnad 

Sesrulebis deficitia. 

SemiZlia, isev duSeTis magaliTze 

giTxraT, rom arqiteqturis 

samsaxurSi misuli adamiani „cisferi 

mTebis” givis ufro male naxavs, 

vidre _ municipalitetis mTavar 

arqiteqtors. 

sanam TviTmmarTvelobis organoebi 

_ meria da sakrebulo _ ufro 

decentralizebulni ar gaxdebian, 

sanam TviTmmarTveli xelisufleba 

biujetianad ar CaiSleba 

administraciuli erTeulis doneze, 

sanam kompetenciis xarisxi ar 

amaRldeba da sanam ar gaacnobiereben, 

rom mniSvnelovania samoqalaqo 

seqtorTan mWidro saqmiani 

komunikacia, manamde, albaT, mniSvnelovnad 

araferi Seicvleba da 

TviTmmarTvelobis sikeTes verc 

xalxi gaacnobierebs! 

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qeTevan enuqiZis gverdi 


warmogidgenT aWaris a.r. turizmisa 

da kurortebis departa- 

mentis gamartivebul Sesyidvebs 

31 maisidan dRemde. erTad aris 

Tavmoyrili sastumros, sare- 

storno momsaxurebis, gidebis/ 

turoperatorebisa da gasarTo- 

bi RonisZiebebis kategoriebi, 

xolo sareklamo momsaxurebis 

mocemulia calke. 

drois es monakveTi aviReT imitom, 

rom ivnisidan zRvispireT- 

Si turistuli sezoni gan- 

sakuTrebiT aqtiuria. 

CamonaTvalSi Sedis is Sesyid- 

vebi, romelTa Rirebuleba 100 

lars aRemateba. 

1. mediis warmomadgenlebi- 

sTvis yazaxeTidan, ukrainidan da 

belarusidan (sul 5 pirovneba) 

aviabileTebis miwodebis uzrunvelyofa 

Semdegi mimarTulebe- 

biT: almaTi-baqo-baTumi, Tbilisi-almaTi, 

almaTi-Tbilisi-alma- 

Ti, astana-Tbilisi-astana, minskibaTumi-minski, 

kievi-baTumi-kievi. 

xelSekrulebis jamuri Rirebuleba 

Seadgens 8500 lars. 

mimwodebeli Sps „vanderlendi” 

11.07.2019; 

2. aWaris a.r. turizmisa da kurortebis 

departamentis stum- 

rebisTvis 2019 wlis 31 ianvris 

CaTvliT folkloruli RonisZ- 

iebis (qarTuli xalxuri cekvebi 

6-kaciani jgufiT) uzrunvelyo- 

fa. 



mimwodebeli levan diasamiZe 

10.07.2019; 

3. 2019 wlis 05 da 06 ivliss 

departamentis stumrebis, ker- 

Zod, internet televizia postv- 

is gadamRebi jgufisTvis (sul 6 

pirovneba) gidis momsaxurebis 

gaweva Semdegi marSrutiT: xelvaCauri-sof.mirveTi, 

maxunceTis 

CanCqeri, ServaSiZeebis marani. 

momsaxurebis Rirebuleba 


mimwodebeli Tamar xozrevaniZe 

10.07.2019; 

4. 2019 wlis 09 da 10 ivliss (2 

dRe) departamentis stumrebis, 

kerZod, mediaturis warmomadgenlebisTvis 

ukrainis respub- 

likidan (sul 7 pirovneba) gidis 

momsaxurebis gaweva Semdegi ma- 

rSrutiT: q. baTumis turi, botanikuri 

baRi, qeda: maxunceTis Can- 

Cqeri, Tamar mefis TaRovani xidi, 

qemal TurmaniZis eTnografiuli 

muzeumi, gonio afsarosis cixe, 

aWaruli Rvinis saxli. 

xelSekrulebis Rirebuleba 


mimwodebeli ina ziJko 

10.07.2019; 

5. departamentis stumrebi- 

sTvis, 2019 wlis 31 dekembris 

CaTvliT folkloruli RonisZ- 

iebis (qarTuli xalxuri simRera 

4-kaciani ansambliT) organizeba. 



mimwodebeli irakli sirabiZe 

10.07.2019; 

6. departamentis stumrebisTvis, 

kerZod, internet televi- 

zia postv-is gadamRebi jgufi- 

sTvis (sul 6 pirovneba) 2019 

wlis 05 ivliss (1 Rame) uzrunve- 

lyos sastumro momsaxurebis 

uzrunvelyofa. momsaxurebis gaweva 

ganxorcieldeba Semdeg misamarTze: 

q. baTumi, Jordania/z.gamsaxurdias 

q. 8/15, sastumro „Divan 

Suites Batumi”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „qervan turizmi 

_ LTD KERVAN TURIZM”. 

10.07.2019; 


kerZod mediaturis warmomadgenlebisTvis, 

ukrainis res- 

publikidan (sul 7 pirovneba) 

2019 wlis 08-09-10 ivliss 3 Rame 

sastumro momsaxurebis uzrunvelyofa 

da SemdgomSi momsaxure- 

ba sastumroSi „vorld palasi”. 


Seadgens 5400 (xuTi aTas 

oTxasi) lars. 

mimwodebeli famTeqs famuqlu 

TeqsTil urunleri sanai ve TijareTi 

10.07.2019; 

8. 2019 wlis 05 da 06 ivliss 

departamentis stumrebs, kerZod, 

sazogadoebrivi 

mauwyeblis 

pirveli arxis gadacemis „axali 

kvira” gadamReb jgufs (3 pirovneba), 

gaewios gidis momsaxure- 

ba Semdegi marSrutiT: Wvanis ad- 

ministraciuli erTeuli sofeli 

cxemlisi, sofeli xabelaSvilebi, 

jvarimindori, gomis mTa. 

momsaxurebis Rirebuleba Seadgens 

375 lars. 

mimwodebeli f.p. erekle CikvaiZe 

05.07.2019; 

9. departamentis stumrebs, 

kerZod, sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis 

pirveli arxis gadacema „ax- 

ali kviris” gadamReb jgufs (3 

pirovneba), 2019 wlis 05 da 06 

ivliss unda gaewios kvebiTi da 

satransporto momsaxureba. 

kvebiTi momsaxurebis Rirebuleba 


mimwodebeli Sps „vaild horn” 

05.07.2019; 


sTvis, kerZod, sazogadoebrivi 

mauwyeblis pirveli arxis gada- 

korufcia aWaris 

a.r. turizmisa 

da kurortebis 

departamentSi 

cema „axali kviris” gadamRebi 

jgufisTvis (3 pirovneba) 2019 

wlis 04 ivliss (1 Rame) sastum- 

ro momsaxurebis uzrunvelyofa. 

momsaxureba gaeweva Semdeg misamarTze: 

q. baTumi, memed abaSiZis 

q. #33, sastumro „Wyndham Batumi”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „aqTiv baTumi” 

05.07.2019; 

11. 2019 wlis 03 ivliss (1 dRe) 

departamentis stumrebs, kerZod, 

mediis warmomadgenlebs yazaxe- 

Tis respublikidan (sul 22 pirovneba) 

gaewios gidis momsaxure- 

ba Semdegi marSrutiT: q. baTumis 

turi da qedis municipalite- 

tis turi. 



mimwodebeli f.p. ina ziJko 

04.07.2019; 

12. departamentis delegacie- 

bsa da stumrebs xelSekrulebis 

gaformebidan 2019 wlis 31 de- 

kembris CaTvliT unda gaewios 

kvebiTi momsaxureba. momsaxure- 

ba gaewevaT: q. baTumi, gogebaSvilis 

q. #33, restorani „bala- 

gani”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „fosfori” 

02.07.2019; 

13. departamentis stumrebs 

(Sida turi) 2019 wlis 31 de- 

kembris CaTvliT gaewios kvebiTi 

momsaxureba. momsaxureba gaewe- 

va rusTavelis gamziri #24, 

restorani „gril Tauni”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „bulvaris 

karibWe” 

26.06.2019; 


kerZod, telekompania „ime- 

dis” gadamRebi jgufisTvis (6 

pirovneba) 2019 wlis 22 ivniss (1 

Rame) sastumro momsaxurebis 

uzrunvelyofa. 

momsaxureba 

gaeweva Semdeg misamarTze: q. ba- 

Tumi, memed abaSiZis q. #33, sas- 

tumro „Wyndham Batumi”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „aqTiv baTumi” 

24.06.2019; 

15. departamentis stumrebisaTvis, 

kerZod, Jurnalistebi- 

sTvis israelis saxelmwifodan 

(sul 2 pirovneba) 2019 wlis 21 

ivniss folkloruli RonisZieb- 

is (qarTuli xalxuri simRera 4- 

kaciani ansambliT) organizeba. 



mimwodebeli irakli sirabiZe. 

21.06.2019; 

16. 2019 wlis 20 da 21 ivniss (2 

dRe) departamentis stumrebs, 

kerZod, Jurnalistebs israelis 

saxelmwifodan (sul 2 pirovne- 

ba) gaewios gidis momsaxureba 

Semdegi marSrutiT: botanikuri 

baRi, q. baTumis turi, qemal Tu- 

rmaniZis eTnografiuli muzeumi, 

gonio afsarosis cixe, sofeli 

pirveli maisi, maxunceTis Can- 

Cqeri, Tamar mefis TaRovani xidi. 



mimwodebeli f.p. salome 

gorgilaZe. 

20.06.2019; 

17. departamentis stumrebisaTvis, 

kerZod, mediaturis war- 

momadgenlebisTvis azerbaijanis 

respublikidan (sul 15 pirovneba) 

2019 wlis 15 ivniss folk- 

loruli RonisZiebis (qarTuli 

xalxuri simRera 4-kaciani ansam- 

bliT) organizeba, restoranSi 

„aWaruli Rvinis saxli”. 



mimwodebeli irakli sirabiZe. 

19.06.2019; 

18. stumrebs, kerZod, mediako- 

mpaniis Jurnalistebs: (sul 10 

pirovneba) 2019 wlis 16 ivniss un- 

da gaewios kvebiTi momsaxureba. 



mimwodebeli jeiran konceliZe. 

18.06.2019; 


kerZod, mediakompaniis JurnalistebisTvis 

(sul 8 pirovne- 

ba) 2019 wlis 14 da 15 ivniss (2 

Rame) unda uzrunvelyos sastum- 

ro momsaxureba. momsaxureba 

gaewevaT Semdeg misamarTze: q. ba- 

Tumi, memed abaSiZis q. #33, sas- 

tumro „Wyndham Batumi”. 

”. 



mimwodebeli Sps „aqTiv ba- 

Tumi”. 

18.06.2019; 

20. 2019 wlis 14 da 15 ivniss (2 

dRe) departamentis stumrebs, 

kerZod, mediaturis warmomad- 

genlebs azerbaijanis respublikidan 

(15 pirovneba) gaewios gi- 

dis momsaxureba Semdegi marSrutiT: 

botanikuri baRi, qeda: max- 

unceTis CanCqeri, Tamar mefis 

TaRovani xidi, gonio afsarosis 

cixe, aWaruli Rvinis saxli. 



mimwodebeli f.p. ina ziJko. 

17.06.2019; 

21. 2019 wlis 16 ivniss departamentis 

stumrebs, kerZod, medi- 

akompaniis Jurnalistebs (sul 10 

pirovneba) gaewios gidis momsaxureba 

Semdegi marSrutiT: mti- 

ralas erovnuli parki. 



mimwodebeli Tamar xozrevaniZe. 

17.06.2019; 

22. aWaris a.r. turizmisa da 

kurortebis 

departamentis 

stumrebs, kerZod, Jurnalistebs 

28 

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latviis respublikidan (sul 7 

pirovneba) 2019 wlis 01 da 02 ivniss 

(2 Rame) unda gaewios sastum- 

ro momsaxureba. 



mimwodebeli Sps „forjigeiT 

froferTis jorjia”. 

11.06.2019; 

23. 2019 wlis 31 dekembris 

CaTvliT departamentis stumrebs 

gaewios transportiT mom- 

saxureba. 



mimwodebeli Sps „goderZi 

Trevel”. 

04.06.2019; 


sTvis 2019 wlis 30 ivnisamde 

folkloruli RonisZiebis organizeba 

(qarTuli xalxuri cekve- 

bi 6-kaciani jgufiT). 



mimwodebeli gela diasamiZe. 

04.06.2019; 

25. 2019 wlis 1-2-3 ivniss de- 

partamentis stumrebs, kerZod, 

Jurnalistebs latviis respub- 

likidan (sul 7 pirovneba) gaew- 

ios gidis momsaxureba Semdegi 

marSrutiT: q. baTumis turi, qeda, 

qemal TurmaniZis eTnografi- 

uli muzeumi, sofeli pirveli 

maisi _ ServaSiZeebis marani, Tamar 

mefis TaRovani xidi, maxunce- 

Tis CanCqeri, aWaruli Rvinis sax- 

li, gonios cixe. 

momsaxurebis Rirebuleba erT 

dReze Seadgens 250 lars. 

mimwodebeli salome CikaSua. 

31.05.2019. 

am 25 xelSekrulebis safuZ- 

velze Cans ramdenime garemoeba: 

ZiriTadad, departamenti emsaxureba 

Jurnalistebs, maT Soris, 

erT SemTxvevaSi, ar aris dafiqsirebuli, 

konkretulad, romeli 

mediis warmomadgenlebi arian nagulisxmevi 

da ra mizans emsaxureba 

es momsaxureba departamentis 

funqciis gaTvaliswinebiT. 

saqme exeba qarTuli mediis warmomadgenlebs. 

aseve ar Cans gamokveTilad, 

romeli stumrebis momsaxurebisTvis 

hyavT miwveuli folkloruli 

jgufebi. 

sainteresoa Sps „goderZi TrevelTan” 

dadebuli xelSekruleba, 

radgan, Tu gaviTvaliswinebT momsaxurebis 

TariRs (2019 wlis 31 

dekemberi), gaurkvevelia, ramdeni 

stumris momsaxurebaa dagegmili 

drois am monakveTSi da ramdenad 

adekvaturia es Tanxa, Tu 

winaswar ar aris gaTvlili stumrebis 

raodenoba da maTi miRebis 

vadebi. 

mkafiod ar aris aRniSnuli, 

ucxoeTis romeli mediis warmomadgenelebis 

aviabileTebiT momsaxurebazea 

saubari pirvel xelSekrulebaSi. 

arafers vityviT imis Taobaze, 

Tu zogadad ramdenad efeqtiania 

departamentis saqmianoba aqtiuri 

turistuli sezonis gaTvaliswinebiT. 

calke gamovyaviT xelSekrulebebi, 

romelic bazris kvlevisa 

da sareklamo momsaxurebi- 

sTvis daido: 

1. . reklama (sainformacio- 

sareklamo statia) turistul 

Jurnal Travel Polang-is 2019 wlis 

ivlisi-agvistos nomerSi, oTx 

gverdze. Jurnalis tiraJia 35 

000, xolo unda gavrceldes 1500 

obieqtze. 

xelSekrulebis Rirebuleba _ 

1180 evro. 

mimwodebeli Majer Media Katarzyna 

Jaszczuk. 

10.07.2019; 

2. sareklamo masalis gan- 

Tavseba saerTaSoriso gastrono- 

miuli organizacia Gault & Millau-s 

„2019 wlis saqarTvelos gastronomiul 

katalogSi” _ licen- 

zirebul gamocemaSi (erTjeradi 

gamocema, SemdgomSi „Jurnali”), 

romlis gamocemis ufleba saqar- 

Tvelos teritoriaze Gault & 

Millau”-sTan gaformebuli xelS- 

ekrulebis Tanaxmad aqvs Semsr- 

ulebels. gastronomiuli katalogi 

gavrceldeba departamentis 

samizne qveynebis poloneTisa da 

israelis, agreTve, arasamizne qveynebis: 

safrangeTis, holandiis, 

belgiis, luqsemburgis, Sveicariis, 

avstriis, iaponiisa da saber- 

ZneTis bazrebze sastumroebSi, 

restornebSi, diplomatiur korpusSi, 

binzes organizaciebSi, sam- 

Tavrobo uwyebebSi. 

Semsruleblis 

mier 

damkveTisTvis sareklamo momsaxurebis 

Rirebuleba Seadgens 6540 

lars. 

mimwodebeli Sps „jorjia Tudei 

jgufi”. 

04.07.2019; 

3. sareklamo momsaxurebebi. 

xelSekrulebis saerTo Rirebuleba 

Seadgens 15 000 lars. 

mimwodebeli Sps UM Georgia 

04.07.2019. 

es xelSekruleba dadebulia 

SMP 180003082-is Sesabamisad. am 

miznisTvis 2018 wlis 31 dekembris 

saboloo ganxilvis safuZvelze 

gamoyofili iyo 5 253 400 lari. 

xelSekrulebaSi miTiTebulia Sesyidvis 

nomeri, magram ar aris 

naxsenebi konkretuli mizani, adgili 

da momsaxurebis forma; 

4. sareklamo momsaxurebebi, 

gare reklama, kerZod, avtogaC- 

erebebis brendireba, romelic 

gulisxmobs avtogaCerebebis Se- 

fuTvas sareklamo fotoebiT, 

butaforiuli nivTebis monta- 

JiT, kerZod, qviSiani platformis 

Seqmna, Toliebis damontaJe- 

ba da xmis efeqtis Seqmna (sxva 

Citebi, Toliebi da zRvis xma, 

WikWikis xma), aseve bilbordis 

ganTavseba. 

momsaxureba miewodeba 2 (or) 

etapad: 

I etapi moicavs 2019 wlis 7 ivnisidan 

25 ivnisis CaTvliT periods. 

II etapi moicavs 2019 wlis 26 

ivnisidan 7 seqtembris CaTvliT 

periods. 

Semsruleblis mier gaweuli 


125800 lars dRg-s CaTvliT. 

mimwodebeli Sps „alma”. 

12.06.2019; 

5. aWaris regionSi frinvele- 

bze dakvirvebis turistuli pro- 

duqtis potencialis Sesaxeb sai- 

nformacio-sareklamo statiis 

ganTavseba da gaavrceleba Jur- 

nal Birdwatch-is -is 2019 wlis agvis- 

tos nomerSi or gverdze. 


„SemsruleblisTvis” Seadgens 

2360 evros. 

mimwodebeli Warners Group Publications 

PLC. 

07.06.2019; 

6. lietuvas respublikis 

qalaq vilniusSi 2019 wlis 10 

ivnisidan 7 ivlisis CaTvliT (4 

kviris ganmavlobaSi) sareklamo 

kampania departamentis mier mi- 

wodebuli saimijo videoklipis 

meSveobiT. 

xelSekrulebis Rirebuleba _ 

40,888 evro; 

7. radiosadgurebis _ radioebis 

„afxazeTis xmisa” da „dardimandis” 

eTerSi sareklamo masa- 

lis ganTavseba. 

audiorgolis gaSvebis raodenoba 

_ 1860 erTeuli, 10 wamis xangrZlivobiT. 

angariSsworeba ganxorcieldeba 

or etapad: 

- pirveli etapis Rirebulebaa 

2070 lari; 

- meore etapis Rirebulebaa 

3510 lari; 




mimwodebeli Sps „jeo media” 

04.06.2019; 

8. . sareklamo momsaxurebebs: 

turistuli adgilebisa da 

marSrutebis Sesaxeb unikaluri 

statiebis/blogebis momzadeba/ 

ganTavseba 

vebportalze 

batumelebi.ge da netgazeti.ge. 

lokacia: q. baTumi. 

orive vebplatformaze erTi 

statiis/blogis momzadeba/gan- 

Tavsebis Rirebuleba aris 620 

lari; 

- turistuli adgilebisa da 

marSrutebis Sesaxeb unikaluri 

statiebis/blogebis momzadeba/ 

ganTavseba vebportalze 

batumelebi.ge da netgazeti.ge, lokacia: 

aWaris municipalitetebi. 

orive vebplatformaze erTi 

statiis/blogis momzadeba/gan- 

Tavsebis Rirebuleba aris 770 

lari; 



mimwodebeli Sps „gazeTi ba- 

Tumelebi”. 

04.06.2019; 

9. radiosadgur „imedis” eTer- 

Si sareklamo masalis/audio rg- 

olis ganTavseba (mauwyeblobis 

Sesaxeb saqarTvelos kanonis 661- 

e prima muxlis Sesabamisad, sazo- 

gadoebisTvis mniSvnelovani inf- 

ormaciis gavrcelebis mizniT). 



momsaxurebis miwodeba ganxorcieldeba 

2 (or) etapad: 

- pirveli etapi moicavs 2019 

wlis pirveli ivnisidan 25 ivnisis 

CaTvliT periods; 

- meore etapi moicavs 2019 

wlis 26 ivnisidan 31 ivlisis CaTvliT 

periods. 




mimwodebeli Sps „radio imedi”. 

04.06.2019; 

10. radiosadgurebis: „fortuna”, 

„fortuna plusis”, „ar dai- 

dardos”, „avtoradios” eTerSi 

SemkveTis mier mowodebuli 

sareklamo masalis/audio rgol- 

is ganTavseba. 

audiorgolis gaSveba 3660 er- 

Teuli, TiToeuli 10 wamis xangr- 

ZlivobiT. 

momsaxurebis miwodeba ganx- 

orcieldeba 2 (or) etapad: 

- pirveli etapi moicavs 2019 

wlis pirveli ivnisidan 25 ivnisis 

CaTvliT periods; 

- meore etapi moicavs 2019 

wlis 26 ivnisidan 31 ivlisis CaTvliT 

periods. 



19 032 lars dRg-s CaTvliT. 

mimwodebeli Sps „radio holdingi 

fortuna”. 

04.06.2019; 

11. radiosadgur „radio palitris” 

eTerSi SemkveTis mier mo- 

wodebuli sareklamo masalis 

ganTavseba. 



angariSsworeba ganxorcieldeba 

or etapad: 

- pirveli etapis Rirebulebaa 

3750 lari; 

- meore etapis Rirebulebaa 

5400 lari. 

am monacemebis safuZvelze 

kargad Cans, rom sareklamo sivrced 

metwilad gamoyenebulia 

qarTuli areali. 

aris Tu ara warmatebuli aWaris 

a.r. turizmisa da kurortebis 

departamentis mier gaformebuli 

xelSekrulebebi efeqtze gaTvlili 

muSaobis Sedegi, rTuli saTqmelia. 

miT umetes, rodesac kargad 

viciT, rom bolo xanebSi sazogadoebaSi 

gaCnda garkveuli SiSi 

turistuli sezonis krizisTan 

dakavSirebiT. ramdenad marTebulia 

departamentisa da, zogadad, 

turizmis erovnuli saagentos strategia 

_ aqcenti gaakeTos da fuli 

daxarjos, ZiriTadad, postsabWoTa 

sivrceze orientirebaSi, 

vfiqrobT, safuZvliani da masStaburi 

kvlevis sagania. 

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parlamentarebisa da mosamarTleebis damaluli qonebebi 

saxelmwifo sajaro biuros 

Tamar rostiaSvili 

samsaxurma Tanamdebobebis mixed- 

577 10 07 06 

viT 448 piri Seamowma. Semowmda 

saqarTvelos parlamentis 60 

wevri da saqarTvelos parlamentis ori TanamSromeli _ jam- 

Si 62 Tanamdebobis piri. uaryofiTad Sefasda 59 piri (59 par- 

lamentari da parlamentis erTi TanamSromeli), dadebiTad _ 

parlamentis erTi wevri da parlamentis erTi TanamSromeli. 

sasamarTlo xelisufleba _ 

Semowmda 14 mosamarTle. uaryofiTad 

Sefasda 7 mosamarTle, 

dadebiTad _ 7. 

prezidentis administracia _ 

Semowmda 2 Tanamdebobis piri, 

uaryofiTad Sefasda orive. 

centraluri aRmasrulebeli 

xelisufleba _ Semowmda 104 de- 

klaracia. uaryofiTad Sefasda 

76 Tanamdebobis piri, dadebiTad 

_ 24, warmoeba Sewyda 4 Tanamdebobis 

pirze. 

avtonomiuri respublikebis 

warmomadgenlobiTi da aRmas- 

rulebeli organoebi _ Semowmda 

3 deklaracia, aqedan warmomadgenlobiTi 

organoebidan 1 da aRmasruleblidan 

_ 2. uaryofiTad 

Sefasda 2 Tanamdebobis piri aRmasrulebeli 

xelisuflebidan. 

warmoeba Sewyda erT Tanamdebobis 

pirze warmomadgenlobiTi 

organodan. 

adgilobrivi 

TviTmmarT- 

veloba _ Semowmda 182 deklaracia, 

aqedan 106 sakrebulos Tanamdebobis 

piri da 76 meriebisa da 

gamgeobebis Tanamdebobis pirebi. 

sakrebulos Tanamdebobis pirebidan 

uaryofiTad Sefasda 94, 

dadebiTad Sefasda _ 12, meria/ 

gamgeobebis SemTxvevaSi uaryofiTad 

Sefasda _ 66 deklaracia, 

dadebiTad Sefasda _ 6 deklaracia, 

warmoeba Sewyda _ 4 deklarantis 

mimarT. 

Tbilisis municipaliteti _ 

Semowmda 12 deklaranti. aqedan 

sakrebulos 4 wevri, Tbilisis 

meriis 7 Tanamdebobis piri da ssipebis 

1 Tanamdebobis piri. sakrebulos 

SemTxvevaSi uaryofiTad Sefasda 

_ 4, gamgeobebis Tanamdebobis 

pirebis deklaraciebidan uaryofiTad 

Sefasda 7 deklaracia, 

Tbilisis meriis ssip-ebis Tanamdebobis 

pirebidan dajarimda 1. 

sajaro samarTlis iuridiu- 

li pirebis Tanamdebobis pirebi 

_ Semowmda 15 deklaranti. dadebiTad 

Sefasda 2 deklaracia, 

xolo uaryofiTad _ 13. 

kerZo samarTlis iuridiuli 

pirebis xelmZRvanelebi _ Semowmda 

18 deklaracia. aqedan a(a)ip-i 

_ 10 da Sps _ 8. a(a)ip-ebis SemTxvevaSi 

dadebiTad Sefasda _ 1 deklaracia 

xolo uaryofiTad _ 8, 

warmoeba Sewyda 1 deklarantis 

mimarT, Sps-ebis SemTxvevaSi uaryofiTad 

Sefasda _ 7 deklaracia, 

warmoeba Sewyda 1 deklarantis 

mimarT. 

saxelmwifo rwmunebulis-gu- 

bernatoris administracia _ 

Semowmda 10 deklaracia. uaryofiTad 

Sefasda 10. 

saxelmwifo usafrTxoebis 

samsaxuri _ Semowmda 21 deklaracia. 

uaryofiTad Sefasda 16, 

xolo dadebiTad _ 5. 

sxva dawesebulebebis, kerZod: 

saqarTvelos erovnuli uSiSroebis 

sabWo, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo 

auditis samsaxuri, saqarTvelos 

saxalxo damcveli, saqarTv- 

elos erovnuli banki, aWaris televizia, 

Tanamdebobis pirebidan 

Semowmda 6 deklaracia. uaryofiTad 

Sefasda 6 deklaracia. 

ara uSavs, xom? gainteresebT, 

ras malaven saxelmwifo samsaxurSi 

myofi zemoT CamoTvlili 

Tanamdebobis pirebi, ris mixedviT 

ganxorcielda monitoringi 

da ra gaxda deklaraciebis uaryofiTad 

Sefasebis safuZveli? 

1. Seusabamoba uZravi qonebis 

farTebSi, anu deklarants mi- 

TiTebuli aqvs daaxloebiTi far- 

Ti da ara realuri; 

2. aradeklarirebuli uZravi 

qoneba, romelic registrirebulia 

ojaxis wevris saxelze da 

aris sasoflo-sameurneo daniSnulebis 

miwis nakveTi; 

3. aradeklalirebuli sabanko 

angariSebi; 

4. kompaniebis flobis SemTxvevaSi, 

ar fiqsirdeba sawarmoebis 

wilebi; 

5. anazRaurebadi saqmianobis 

nawilSi darRvevebi: ojaxis wevrebis 

Semosavlebis ardafiqsireba 

an gansxvavebuli odenobiT 

dafiqsireba. 

a, batono? realurad es qonebis 

damalvaa. im qonebis, ris SeZenasac 

aRniSnuli pirebi Tavisi xelfasiT 

da aseve ojaxis wevrebis 

SemosavlebiT ver SeZlebdnen. 

2018 wels Sesamowmebel deklaraciebad 

monitoringis eleqtronuli 

sistemis mier SeirCa 320 

deklaracia. aqedan, monitoringi 

daiwyo 73 deklaraciaze, jamurad 

2018 wlis ganmavlobaSi Semowmda 

448 deklaracia. 

Semowmebuli deklaraciebidan 

uaryofiTad Sefasda 379 deklaracia, 

maT Soris, erTi Semdgomi 

reagirebisTvis gadaigzavna samarTaldamcvel 

organoebSi. monitoringis 

Sedegebi gaasaCivra 13- 

ma Tanamdebobis pirma. 

monitoringis farglebSi srulyofilad 

Seswavlilia SerCeul 

Tanamdebobis pirTa deklaraciebi, 

isini Seadares saxelmwifo dawesebulebebis 

mier administrirebul 

eleqtronul bazebSi dacul 

monacemebs da Tanamdebobis 

pirebis mier warmodgenil dokumentacias, 

ris Sedegadac gadawyvetileba 

miRebulia TiToeuli 

Tanamdebobis pirze. 

statistikurad, dadebiTad Sefasebuli 

deklaraciebis raodenoba 

Seadgens 2018 wlis ganmavlobaSi 

Semowmebuli deklaraciebis 

13%-s. xolo uaryofiTad Sefasda 

Semowmebuli deklaraciebis 

78%, warmoeba Sewyda deklaraciebis 

2%-ze. 

uaryofiTad dasrulebuli 

Semowmebis Sedegebi 379-ia, maT 

Soris, 25 saidumlo Tanamdeboba. 

saqarTvelos parlamentis wevrebi: 

sesiaSvili irakli, xabelovi 

leri, xuciSvili zaza, wilosani 

nino, CugoSvili Tamar, begaZe 

giorgi, beJaniZe levan, odiSaria 

beqa, poRosiani ruslan, mu- 

ras malavs qibar 

xalvaSis da? 

Teimuraz svaniZe 

fati xalvaSi 

CiaSvili roman, qanTaria aleqsandre, 

arvelaZe revaz, damenia 

laSa, mkoiani enzel, oxanaSvili 

anri, Wkuaseli Teimuraz, xalva- 

Si fati, xubuluri Tengiz, jafariZe 

viqtor, wiklauri mirian, 

nozaZe simon, oqriaSvili kaxaber, 

xaxubia irakli, mdinaraZe mamuka, 

Toloraia ediSer, ionaTamiSvili 

rati, lomia giorgi, makraxiZe 

ioseb, kviciani emzar, kopaZe giorgi, 

kedelaSvili zaza, mxeiZe 

dimitri, qucnaSvili zaqaria, 

fruiZe irine, gunava Tengiz, enuqiZe 

goCa, ZiZiguri zviad, ratiani 

sergo, wulaia ivliane, Ciqovani 

mamuka, WiWinaZe daviT, xundaZe 

dimitri, jaSi mariam, gegiZe biZina, 

kobiaSvili levan, maWaraSvili 

guram, narCemaSvili koba, 

JorJoliani gia, xabareli SoTa, 

inaSvili irma, fofxaZe gedevan, 

tripolski erekle, kudba svetlana, 

kilaZe sofio, nadiraSvili 

irma, kaxiani giorgi, samxaraZe 

dimitri, maxaTaZe sulxan. 

mosamarTleebi: 

kupataZe roman _ gurjaanis 

raionuli sasamarTlo. murusiZe 

levan _ Tbilisis saapelacio 

sasamarTlo. meTofiSvili sergo 

_ Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlo. 

svaniZe Teimuraz _ quTaisis saapelacio 

sasamarTlo. sirbilaZe 

cisana _ Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlo 

(gafrTxilebulia). WuniaSvili 

Tamar _ Tbilisis saqalaqo 

sasamarTlo. kakabaZe xaTuna 

_ Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlo 

(gafrTxilebulia). 

sxva Tanamdebobis pirebze 

cnobebs „qronika+“ gzadagza SemogTavazebT, 

am zafxuls ki SevecdebiT, 

detalurad SemogTavazoT 

TiToeul maTganze yvela is 

masala, Tu ra daumales maT saxelmwifos 

da raSi moatyues sazogadoeba. 

zaqaria qucnaSvili da irakli tripolski 

magaliTad, ras umalavs saxelmwifos 

qibar xalvaSis da? 

qarTuli sportis siamaye, umankoTa 

Soris pirveli _ leri xabelovi 

da sxva zemoT CaoTvlili? 

rac Seexeba mosamarTleebs, 

maT „qronika+“ aseve calke mimoixilavs, 

manamde ki gvinda erT 

maTganze SevCerdeT, romelTanac 

quTaisel eqim irakli merkvilaZeze 

masalis mzadebisas uSualo 

Sexeba gvqonda. 

profesori irakli merkvilaZe, 

romelic sameano dargSi erovnuli 

protokolebis erT-erTi avtoria 

da dRes samSobiaroebi 

misi TanamonawileobiT Seqmnili 

gaidlainebiT xelmZRvaneloben, 

cixeSi zis. mis „CajenaSi” didi wvlili 

miuZRvis mosamarTle Teimuraz 

svaniZis mier gamotanil 

ganaCens. eqims violeta matonavas 

gardacvalebaSi edeboda brali, 

romelsac sakeisro kveTa 2013 

wels gaukeTa da gogona saxlS, 

gardaicvala. saqme ramdenime 

wlis mere aRiZra da irakli 

merkvilaZis winaaRmdeg dava xuTi 

wlis ganmavlobaSi mimdinareobda. 

miuxedavad imisa, rom yvela 

saxelmwifo eqspertiza eqimis 

udanaSaulobas adasturebda, mosamarTlem 

es ar gaiTvaliswina. 

rogorc Tavad merkvilaZis mxare 

acxadebda, SekveTa yofili „xoneliZis” 

klinikidan miiRo da 

swored am SekveTas mihyveboda 

prokuroric da mosamarTlec. 

Teimuraz svaniZis SemTxvevis 

msgavsi saqmeebi unda amoiRon da 

Tavidan Seiswavlon, vinaidan 

ufaso „SekveTebi” ar arsebobs. 

da im SemTxvevaSi, Tu irakli 

merkvilaZe marTali aRmoCndeba, 

maSin dafaruli qonebis warmomavlobis 

aRmoCena bevrad iolia. 

cnobisTvis: dafaruli Semosavlebis 

gamo svaniZe xelfasis 

20%-is odenobiT daajarimes da 

Zalian azarales. 

sxvaTa Soris, Tu erT-erTi 

dazaralebulis dacvis mxaris 

ganmartebas vendobiT, Teimuraz 

svaniZe, im SemTxvevebSi, rodesac 

mosamarTle marine siraZesTan 

erTad mihyavs saqme, mTlianad 

siraZis mona-morCilia. anu er- 

Tobliv saqmeebSi gadamwyveti 

qali mosamarTlea. marina siraZe 

ki dazaralebulTa dacvis mxareebis 

gancxadebiT prokuraturis 

mosamarTled aris miCneuli da 

maSinac ki, rodesac sxva mosamarTleebs 

surT damoukidebeli 

ganaCenis gamotana, es ver xerxdeba. 

Tu dacvis mxareebs vendobiT 

_ sadac siraZea, iq prokuraturaa! 

sajarod gavrcelebuli informaciiT, 

es is mosamarTlea, 

romelic qarTuli marTlmsajulebis 

istoriaSi „RimilTmoZule” 

mosamarTlis saxeliT Sevida. 

Rimilis gamo dajarimebuli advokatebis 

ambavi ki starsburgis 

verdiqts elodeba. 

„qronika+” werda sofel tyaCirSi, 

saTburSi amoRebul 1.7 

milion evroze, romelic qarTvelma 

samarTaldamcvelebma kokainiT 

vaWrobas daukavSires, oRond 

kokainis gareSe, radgan 220 

kilo kokaini, razedac sabraldebo 

daskvnaSia saubari, bunebaSi ar 

arsebobs. am da sxva ambebs, romelic 

qarTvel mosamarTleebs 

ukavSirdeba, „qronika+“ detalurad 

mogawvdiT. 

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qarTul realobaSi politikur 

partiebs ara mxolod ideologiuri krizisi aqvT, aramed or- 

ganizaciuli Tu instituciuri ganviTarebis problemebi, rac, 

Sesabamisad, xels uSlis politikis ganviTarebas. qarTuli 

politikuri partiebisTvis erT-erTi mtkivneuli gamowveva 

dafinansebis araefeqtiani da politikurad uSinaarso sistemaa. 

partiis qonebas qmnis: sawevro Senatanebi, Semowirulobe- 

bi, saxelmwifos mier gamoyofili Tanxa da sawesdebo mizneb- 

is mixedviT saqmianobidan miRebuli wliuri Semosavali. 


rTuli ocneba” ikavebs. jamSi, aRniSnul 

periodSi „qarTuli ocnebisTvis” 

Sewiruli Tanxa 3,689,500 

lars warmoadgens. meore adgilze 

saparlamento opoziciuri partia 

„evropuli saqarTvelo _ moZraoba 

TavisuflebisTvis” _ 164,862 

lariTaa warmodgenili; rac Seexeba 

mesame adgils, Semowirulobebis 

mixedviT mesame adgilze mTavar 

opoziciur Zalad wodebuli 

„nacionaluri moZraobaa”, romlis 

Semowirulobebi 01.01.2019-dan 

19.07.2019-is CaTvliT warmoadgens 

103,435 lars; meoTxe adgilze ki 

arasaparlamento opoziciuri partia 

„Tavisufali saqarTveloa”, 

am partiis Semowiruloba mocemul 

periodiSi 39,450 laria; Semowirulobebis 

mixedviT top 5 partiis 

bolo adgilze ki axali politikuri 

centri „girCia” _ 36,910 

lariT. 

rogorc irkveva, mxolod mmarTveli 

gundis top 10 SemomwirvelSi 

gvxvdeba organzaciebi, finansuri 

reitingiT momdevno ori 

partiis SemomwirvelebSi mxolod 

fizikuri pirebi fiqsirdebian. 

01.01.2019-dan 19.07. 2019-is 

CaTvliT „qarTuli ocnebis” top 

10 Semomwirveli: 

1. organizacia „axali teqnologiebi”, 

14/05/2019 _ 100,000 lari; 

2. organizacia „servis argo”, 

04/07/2019 _ 100,000 lari; 

3. organizacia „citadeli”, 02/ 

07/2019 _ 100,000 lari; 

4. organizacia „saqarTvelo”, 

02/05/2019 _ 100,000 lari; 

5. organizacia „qarTuli Rvinis 

imperia”, 08/05/2019 _ 100,000 

lari; 

6. organizacia „gagra+”, 23/04/ 

2019 _ 100, 000 lari; 

7. organizacia „qarTul-amerikuli 

samSeneblo sawarmo LTD 

GACC”, 07/05/2019 _ 99,900 lari; 

8. fizikuri piri, aleqsandre 

CoCia, 27/03/2019 _ 60,000 lari; 

9. fizikuri piri Salva siraZe, 

29/03/2019 _ 60,000 lari; 

10. fizikuri piri daviT balanCivaZe 

28/03/2019 _ 60,000 lari. 

„qarTuli ocnebis” Semom- 

politikuri partiebis Semowirulobebi _ 2019 weli 

qarTuli kanonmdebloba ganmartavs, 

rom Semowirulobad miiCneva 

saqarTvelos moqalaqis mier 

partiisTvis Caricxuli Tanxa, 

partiis angariSze saqarTveloSi 

dafuZnebuli iuridiuli piris 

mier Caricxuli Tanxa da aseve is 

materialuri Tu aramaterialuri 

faseuloba, rac partiam fizikuri 

an iuridiuli pirisgan uasasyidlo 

an SeRavaTiani pirobebiT miiRo. 

Tumca, kanonmdeblobiT, partias 

aseve ufleba aqvs, krediti 

aiRos saqarTveloSi moqmedi komerciuli 

bankisgan „saerTo raodenobis 

araumetes erTi milioni 

larisa kalendaruli wlis ganmavlobaSi”. 

qarTul kanonmdeblobas cxadia, 

aseve aqvs garkveuli akrZalvebi 

partiebis dafinansebis kuTxiT. 

kerZod, imave organuli kanonis 

mixedviT, saqarTveloSi partiebs 

ekrZalebaT Semowirulobebis 

miReba ucxo qveynis fizikuri an 

iuridiuli pirebisgan, maT Soris, 

saerTaSoriso organizaciebisgan 

Tu moZraobebisgan, saxelmwifo 

organoebisgan an saxelmwifosTan 

asocirebuli organizaciebisgan, 

garda kanoniT gaTvaliswinebuli 

SemTxvevebisa, arasamewarmeo iuriduli 

pirisgan an religiuri instituciebisgan, 

moqalaqeobis 

armqone pirisgan da anonimuri 

formiT. Tumca partiam SesaZloa, 

Semosavali miiRos raime sajaro 

RonisZiebebisgan, magram kanoni 

gansazRvravs, rom aseTi aqtivobidan 

miRebuli Semosavali ar 

unda aRematebodes 30 000 lars 

weliwadSi. aseve kanonmdeblobiT 

partiis mier yoveli moqalaqisgan 

miRebuli Semowirulobebis saer- 

To odenoba weliwadSi ar unda 

aRematebodes 60 000 lars, xolo 

yoveli iuridiuli pirisgan miRebuli 

Semowirulobebi weliwadSi 

ar unda aRematebodes 120 000 

lars. rac Seexeba partiis wevrebis 

sawevro Senatans, TiToeuli 

wevris mier ganxorcielebuli sawevro 

Senatanebis wliuri raodenoba 

ar unda aRematebodes 1200 

lars. 

aseTia kanonmdebloba, romelic 

arsebul mocemulobas gvTavazobs. 

axla ki ganvixiloT top 5 partia 

Semowirulobebis mixedviT, 

aRniSnuli monacemebi moicavs periods: 

2019 wlis pirveli ianvridan 

2019 wlis 19 ivlisis CaTvliT. 

yvelasTvis mosalodnelia, rom 

pirvel adgils Semowirulobebis 

mixedviT mmarTveli partia „qa- 

wirvelebisgan gansxvavebiT bevrad 

ufro mokrZalebulad gamoiyureba 

„evropuli saqarTve- 

los” Semomwirvelebis fuladi 

raodenoba. aRsaniSnavia, rom Se- 

momwirvelebs Soris gvxvdebian 

partiis erT-erTi lideri giga 

bokeria da misi meuRle Tamar 

CergoleiSvili: 

1. fizikuri piri daviT avaliani, 

01/06/2019 _ 10,500 lari; 

2. fizikuri piri giorgi bokeria, 

01/06/2019 _ 8,400 lari; 

3. fizikuri piri oTar kaxiZe, 

17/04/2019 _ 7,200 lari; 

4. fizikuri piri daviT avaliani, 

17/01/2019 _ 6,750 lari; 

5. fizikuri piri mzia ioseliani, 

01/06/2019 _ 5,600 lari; 

6. fizikuri piri koba ZagniZe, 

01/06/2019 _ 5,600 lari; 

7. fizikuri piri valeri yuraSvili, 

01/06/2019 _ 5,600 lari; 

8. fizikuri piri giorgi bokeria, 

17/01/2019 _ 5,400 lari; 

9. fizikuri piri tariel fan- 

CuliZe, 01/06/2019 _ 4,9000 lari; 

10. fizikuri piri Tamar CergoleiSvili 

_ 07/06/2019 _ 4,500 

lari. 

rac Seexeba mTavar opozici- 

ur Zalad wodebul „nacionalur 

moZraobas”, 01.01.2019-dan 19.07. 

2019-is CaTvliT maTi top 10 Se- 

momwirveli aris: 

1. organizacia „saqarTvelo”, 

01/02/2019 _ 14,076 lari; 

2. fizikuri piri mamuka Ciqovani, 

10/05/2019 _ 13,000 lari; 

3. fizikuri piri uSangi xijakiZe, 

01/04/2019 _ 6,963 lari; 

4. fizikuri piri giorgi qurdaZe, 

18/01/2019 _ 5,500 lari; 

5. fizikuri piri, nino mamacaSvili, 

06/02/2019 _ 5,073 lari; 

6. fizikuri piri irakli nadiraZe, 

07/05/2019 _ 5,000 lari; 

7. fizikuri piri lile 

liparteliani, 07/05/2019 _ 5,000 

lari; 

8. fizikuri piri latavra laliaSvili, 

04/03/2019 _ 4,950 lari; 

9. fizikuri piri Tea gogitaSvili, 

20/02/2019 _ 4,645 lari lari; 

10. fizikuri piri paata manjgalaZe, 

07/05/2019 _ 3,450 lari. 

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daavadebaTa kontrolis ero- 

Tamar rostiaSvili 

vnulma centrma oficialurad 

577 10 07 06 

daadastura qveyanaSi enterovi- 

rusis epidemiis arseboba, romel- 

ic bolo ori Tvis ganmavlobaSi aTeul aTasobiT adamianma 

moixada. recipientTa Soris bevria bavSvi da mozardi. 

enterovirusi gaxlavT nawlavuri 

infeqcia, romlis erT-erTi 

gamomwvevia sakvebi produqti. es 

ki imas niSnavs, rom qveyanaSi sakvebi 

produqtebis xarisxisa da inspeqtirebis 

kuTxiT didi problema 

dgas. 

saqarTveloSi sursaTis uvneblobis 

saxelmwifo kontroli sursaTis 

erovnuli saagentos (ses) 

kompetenciaa. sesi amowmebs sursa- 

Tis sawarmoebis mdgomareobas da 

savaWro qselSi arsebuli sursa- 

Tis (maT Soris, sasmeli wylis) 

uvneblobas, qveyanaSi moqmedi mo- 

Txovnebis Sesabamisad. kanondamr- 

Rvevi mewarmeebis mimarT gamoiyeneba 

sanqciebi: sawarmoo procesis 

SeCereba, mavne sursaTis ganadgureba, 

jarimebi. 

„qronika+~-ma am sakiTxis gaSuqeba 

zafxulis dadgomisTanave daiwyo 

da Cveni wyaro gaxda, faqtobrivad, 

erTaderTi organzacia _ 

„strategiuli kvlevebisa da ganviTarebis 

centri”, romelic am Temebze 

muSaobs. 2019 wlis 13 marts 

organizaciam gamoiTxova informacia 

im sakiTxebze, romelic exeboda 

sursaTis mZime metalebiT 

dabinZurebis wyaroebis gamovlenas, 

ses-is reagirebas mavne produqtebis 

gamovlenisa da rZis nawarm- 

Si mcenareuli cximis aRmoCenis 

SemTxvevebSi. ai, ra miiRo organizaciam 

pasuxad: 

rom kvlav problemad rCeba sursaTis 

tyviiT dabinZurebis wyaroebis 

gamovlena. rom sursaTis 

erovnuli sagentos mier suneleb- 

Si tyviis gadametebuli odenobis 

aRmoCenis SemTxvevebidan, dabin- 

Zurebis wyaroebi arc erT SemTxvevaSi 

ar gamovlenila. ismis kiTxva, 

maSin ratom dainaxa sursaTis 

erovnulma saagentom sakiTxis Seswavlis 

dros sisxlissamarTlebrivi 

danaSaulis niSnebi da saqme samarTaldamcvel 

organos gadasca?! 

im SemTxvevebSi, rodesac sursaTis 

erovnuli saagento sursaT- 

Si mavne nivTierebebis normebis 

gadametebas avlens, saqmes arasodes 

gadascems samarTaldamcvel 

organoebs. gadawyvetilebebs aRniSnuli 

uwyeba „safrTxis proporciulad” 

iRebs. magaliTad, wina 

wels „qronika+~-ma gamoaqveyna strategiuli 

kvlevebisa da ganviTarebis 

centris” mier Catarebuli 

kvlevis angariSi „sisxlissamarTlebrivi 

pasuxismgebloba sursa- 

Tis uvneblobis moTxovnebis dar- 

RvevisaTvis”. kvlevis erT-erTi 

daskvna is iyo, rom sursaTis erovnuli 

saagentos gadawyvetilebebis 

miReba samarTaldamcveli organoebisadmi 

saqmeebis gadagzavnasTan 

dakavSirebiT sakmaod rTuli 

procesia. xolo sursaTis erovnuli 

saagentos zedamxedveli uwyebebi 

(eseni arian: garemos dacvisa 

da soflis meurneobis saministro 

da saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuri) 

am procesis monitorings ar axdenen. 

rac Seexeba rZis nawarmis dasaxelebiT 

mcenareuli cximis Semcveli 

produqtis gayidvas (rac 

ikrZaleba rZisa da rZis nawarmis 

ratom ar aZleven 

pasuxisgebaSi 

dabinZurebuli 

produqtis 

mwarmoeblebs? 

`rac Seexeba rZis nawarmis dasaxelebiT 

mcenareuli cximis Semcveli produqtis 

gayidvas (rac ikrZaleba rZisa da rZis 

nawarmis Sesaxeb teqnikuri reglamentiT), 

sursaTis erovnuli saagento arc amas 

ganixilavs sisxlissamarTlebriv danaSaulad, 

Sesabamisad, aseTi SemTxvevebis Sesaxeb 

samarTaldamcvel uwyebebs ar mimarTavs. ra 

Tqma unda, ukanonobaze Tvals ver daxuWavs da 

aseT SemTxvevebs sursaTis erovnuli saagento 

ubralod fuTavs da mxolod etiketirebis 

wesebis darRvevad miiCnevs. Sesabamisad, 

mxolod da mxolod, ajarimebs 

kanondamrRvevebs~ 

Sesaxeb teqnikuri reglamentiT), 

sursaTis erovnuli saagento arc 

amas ganixilavs sisxlissamarTlebriv 

danaSaulad, Sesabamisad, ase- 

Ti SemTxvevebis Sesaxeb samarTaldamcvel 

uwyebebs ar mimarTavs. ra 

Tqma unda, ukanonobaze Tvals ver 

daxuWavs da aseT SemTxvevebs sursaTis 

erovnuli saagento ubralod 

fuTavs da mxolod etiketirebis 

wesebis darRvevad miiCnevs. Sesabamisad, 

mxolod da mxolod, 

ajarimebs kanondamrRvevebs. 

„strategiuli kvlevebisa da 

ganviTarebis centris” angariSiT, 

sursaTis erovnuli saagento sakmaod 

dagvianebiT ugzavnis Setyobinebebs 

mewarmeebs produqciis 

bazridan gamoTxovis uzrunvelsayofad. 

axlave agixsniT, gvian 

ras niSnavs _ laboratoriuli daskvnis 

miRebis Semdeg 8 SemTxvevidan 

2-Si mewarmesTan Setyobineba 

gaigzavna 4 dRis, xolo 4 SemTxvevaSi 

_ 9 dRis Semdeg. arada, rogorc 

ki produqciis bazridan gamoTxovis 

saWiroeba dgeba, biznesoperators 

Setyobineba dauyovnebliv 

unda gaegzavnos, vinaidan 

sakvebi produqtebis nawili malfuWebad 

kategorias ganekuTvneba 

da aseTi dagvianeba gaumarTlebelia. 

saneleblebSi tyviis gadametebuli 

odenobis aRmoCenasTan dakavSirebiT 

sursaTis erovnuli saagentos 

werilidan irkveva, rom 8- 

dan 5 SemTxvevaSi laboratoriaSi 

Semowmebul partiebs realizatorebTan 

ukve veRar miakvlies, 

xolo sunelis erTi mwarmoebeli 

saerTod ver moiZebna. anu tyviiT 

dabinZurebuli nimuSebi ukve gayiduli 

iyo. es faqti kidev erTxel 

amtkicebs, rom aucilebelia, 

sursaTis erovnulma saagentom 

sursaTis mavne nivTierebebiT dabinZurebis 

SemTxvevebis gamovlenisas 

mosaxleobisTvis gafrTxilebebi 

gaavrcelos, xolo mewarmeebs 

dabinZurebuli partiebis momxmareblebisgan 

gamoTxova daavalos. 

mkiTxvels aqve SevaxsenebT, wina 

wlebSi sursaTis erovnuli saagentos 

mier ganxorcielebuli monitoringis 

Sedegadac aRmoCnda 

tyviis gadametebuli odenoba Semdegi 

mewarmeebis mier realizebul 

sunelebSi: „giga Sarangia”, „madona 

Todua”, „zaqro kaxaZe”. 

ase rom, dRemde yvelaze did 

gaurkvevlobad rCeba sunelebis 

tyviiT dabinZurebis wyaroebi. 

sursaTis erovnuli sagentos mier 

mowodebuli informaciiT, umetes 

SemTxvevebSi, tyviiT dabinZurebuli 

sunelebis sawyisi mimwodebeli 

iyo Sps „jeo” _ qarTuli da ucxouri 

sunelebis yvelaze didi distributori 

saqarTveloSi. Tumca 

Tavad „jeoSi” aRebul nimuSebSi 

tyviis gadametebuli odenoba 2018 

wels ar gamovlenila. amgvarad, 

gaugebari rCeba, Tu saidan moxvda 

tyvia sunelebSi? 

arc es aris gamoZiebuli, mxolod 

da mxolod, imitom, rom aRniSnuli 

faqtebi samarTaldamcvelebs 

ar gadasces. 

sursaTis erovnul saagentosTan 

„strategiuli kvlevebisa da 

ganviTarebis centris” mimoweris 

Sedegad, erTi sagulisxmo faqti 

gairkva: ss „fudmartSi” sursaTis 

erovnulma saagentom tyviiT dabinZurebuli, 

gasanadgureblad gankuTvnili, 

daluquli sursaTi 

(svanuri marili, 27 cali, mwarmoebeli 

Sps „olo”) veRar aRmoaCina, 

ris gamoc biznesoperatori 1000 

lariT dajarimda. ss „fudmartis” 

warmomadgenlis sityvieri ganmartebiT, 

am ukanasknelma dabinZurebuli 

sursaTis partia mwarmoebels 

daubruna, romelic saagentom 

verc erT misamarTze ver moi- 

Zia. es is gamonaklisi gaxldaT, 

rodesac amis gamo sakiTxi samarTaldamcvelebs 

gadaeca. 

saagentosTan xangrZlivi mimoweris 

miuxedavad, mainc gaurkveveli 

rCeba, Tu ra qmedebebi ganaxorciela 

am uwyebam i.m. „malxaz 

kaxaZesTan” da Sps iProduct-Si aRmoCenili 

sursaTis tyviiT dabin- 

Zurebis wyaroebis misakvlevad. 

sursaTis erovnuli saagentos 13 

maiss gamogzavnili pasuxiT irkveva, 

rom saagentom gvacnoba i.m. „malxaz 

kaxaZis” SemTxvevasTan dakav- 

SirebiT ganxorcielebuli mikvlevadobis 

Sesaxeb, Tumca kvlav 

gaurkveveli rCeba, ram SeuSala 

xeli Sps iProduct-Si aRmoCenili 

sunelebis tyviiT dabinZurebis 

wyaroebis mikvlevas. didi dagvianebis 

Semdeg, 2019 wlis 24 ivniss, 

sursaTis erovnulma saagentom 

ganmarta, Tu ratom ver moxerxda 

Sps iProduct-Si aRmoCenili sunelebis 

tyviiT dabinZurebis wyaroebis 

mikvleva. kerZod, i.m. „nana falians”, 

romelmac sunelebi iProducts 

miawoda, Tavis mxriv, es produqcia 

bazarze, fizikuri pirebisgan 

hqonda SeZenili. am pirTa identificireba 

ver moxerxda, radgan 

isini sunel-saneleblebis realizacias 

aRar axorcieleben. 

centri da Cvenc davinteresdiT, 

praqtikaSi ramdenad xdeba 

zemoaRniSnul SemTxvevebSi sisxlissamarTlebrivi 

pasuxismgeblobis 

dakisreba. moviZieT informacia 

Sesabamisi saxelmwifo uwyebebidan 

da Cveni kvlevis Sedegebs 

gTavazobT. 

ses-is mier sursaTis uvneblobis 

moTxovnebis darRvevis gamovlena 

avtomaturad ar gulisxmobs 

imas, rom kanondamrRvevs sisxlis 

samarTlis pasuxismgebloba daekisreba. 

sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis 

(ssk) zemoaRniSnuli muxlebis 

darRvevis niSnebis arsebobisas 

gamoZiebis dawyeba Sinagan saqmeTa 

saministros (Sss) an finansTa saministros 

sagamoZiebo samsaxuris 

kompetenciaa, pasuxisgebaSi micema 

_ prokuraturis, xolo ganaCenis 

gamotana _ sasamarTlosi. 

`fudmartSi~ sursaTis erovnulma saagentom 

tyviiT dabinZurebuli, gasanadgureblad 

gankuTvnili, daluquli sursaTi (svanuri 

marili, 27 cali, mwarmoebeli Sps òlo~) 

veRar aRmoaCina, ris gamoc biznesoperatori 

1000 lariT dajarimda. ss `fudmartis~ 

warmomadgenlis sityvieri ganmartebiT, am 

ukanasknelma dabinZurebuli sursaTis partia 

mwarmoebels daubruna, romelic saagentom 

verc erT misamarTze ver moiZia. es is 

gamonaklisi gaxldaT, rodesac amis gamo 

sakiTxi samarTaldamcvelebs gadaeca~ 

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32 N25 (286) 23.07-5.08.2019 w.

maka mosiaSvili 

599 97 25 55 

„saqarTvelos statistikis 

erovnuli samsaxuris” infor- 

maciiT, yvelaze mdidari 

qalaqebia: 

Tbilisi _ dedaqalaqi yvelaze 

maRalSemosavliania saqarTvelos 

sxva qalaqebs Soris. 

misi wliuri brunva 40873,6 milioni 

laria, romelic sxvadasxva 

dargis mixedviT aseT suraTs 

gvaZlevs. 

baTumi _ misi Semosavali 

3542,1 mln laria. mTlianad regionis, 

aWaris wliuri Semosavali 

ki 4155,5 mln lari. aWaris 

regionSi yvelaze Semosavliani 

avtomobilebis, sayofacxovrebo 

nawarmisa da piradi 

moxmarebis sagnebis remontia 

(1682,8 laris odenobiT vaWroba); 

quTaisis wliuri Semosava- 

li 1359,9 milioni laria, xolo 

imereTis regionis _ 2591,4 mln. 

lari. regionSi yvelaze Semosavliani 

vaWrobaa avtomobi- 


egia gaacnes. 

Sexvedraze „decentralizaciis 

reforma saqarTveloSi, 

strategia da gamowvevebi” _ regionis 

ganviTarebis perspeqtivebze 

da xelisuflebis, samoqalaqo 

sazogadoebis organizaciebis, 

biznesisa da sxvadasxva 

dainteresebul mxares Soris 

TanamSromlobis meqanizmebze 

imsjeles. 

strategiis proeqtSi ramdenime 

ZiriTadi mimarTulebaa 

municipalitetebisTvis uflebamosilebebis 

gazrda, maTi 

finansuri avtonomia da qonebis 

gadacema, anu is yvelaferi, 

rac maTi uflebamosilebebis 

ganxorcielebas sWirdeba. 

mniSvnelovania municipalitetebma 

icodnen, ra raodenobis 

miwas floben, hqondeT sakuTrebaSi 

rogorc arasasoflo-sameurneo 

miwebi, ise saZovrebi. 

es maT daexmarebaT, uke- 

Tesad dagegmon Tavisi saqmianoba 

da xeli Seuwyon ara marto 

ratom ver viTardebian patara municipalitetebi? 

lebis, sayofacxovrebo nawarmisa 

da piradi moxmarebis sagnebis 

remonti. aRniSnuli dargebisgan 

miRebuli wliuri Semosavali 

1135 mln lars Seadgens; 

rusTavis Semosavali 1448,2 

milioni laria da yvelaze mdidar 

qalaqebs Soris meoTxe 

pozicias ikavebs. qvemo qarTlis 

wliuri Semosavali ki 

3347,4 lars Seadgens. 

„saqstatis” mixedviT, saqar- 

Tvelos yvelaze Raribi qalaqebia: 

oni _ 11,5 milioni lari. 

ambrolauri _ 20 mln lari. 

raWis meore qalaqi, romelic 

sxva qalaqebTan SedarebiT dabali 

Semosavlis mqonea. 

walenjixa _ 39 mln lari. 

siRnaRi _ 41 mln lari. kaxe- 

Tis wliuri Semosavali 963,4 

mln lars Seadgens. 

lanCxuTi _ 56,6 mln lari. 

guriis wliuri brunda 355 mln 

lars Seadgens. 

saSemosavlo gadasaxadi iyofa 

or nawilad: mewarme fizikuri 

pirebis saSemosavlo gadasaxadi, 

romlis gadaxda xorcieldeba 

gadamxdelebis deklarirebis 

safuZvelze da saSemosavlo 

gadasaxadi, romelsac 

ixdian damqiraveblebi. pirvel 

komponentze miRebulia gadawyvetileba 

da 2016 wlis pirveli 

ianvridan municipalitetis 

biujetSi srulad iricxeba mewarme 

fizikur pirTa saSemosavlo 

gadasaxadi. amavdroulad, 

dawyebuli iyo muSaoba imaze, 

rom meore komponentidanac Tanxebis 

garkveuli nawili mimarTuliyo 

adgilobriv biujetebSi. 

swored es nawili aris 

mTlianad saSemosavlo gadasaxadis 

mniSvnelovani wili (daaxloebiT 

80%-mde). 

umTavres amocanas warmoadgens 

municipalitetis sakuTari 

Semosavlebis zrda da es ukanaskneli 

logikur TanxvedraSi 

unda iyos adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis 

kompetenciebTan. 

municipalitetSi ekonomikuri 

ganviTarebis kvaldakval unda 

gaizardos misi Semosavlebi, 

raTa ukeTesi da meti proeqtis 

ganxorcielebis motivacia arsebobdes. 

saqarTvelos regionuli ganviTarebisa 

da infrastruqturis 

saministrom decentralizaciis 

2019-2025 wlebis strategiuli 

gegma moamzada, romlis 

proeqtis pirveladi versiis ganxilva 

TelavSi gaimarTa. 

dokumenti iTvaliswinebs 

adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis 

uflebamosilebebis gazrdis, 

finansuri decentralizaciisa 

da moqalaqeTa monawileobis 

uzrunvelyofis meqanizmebis 

srulyofas. strategiuli 

dokumentis proeqtTan SeniSvnebi 

aqvT eqspertebsa da mesame 

seqtoris warmomadgenlebs. 

dokumentis pirvelad versiaSi 

xarvezebs xedavs aRmosavleT 

evropis mravalpartiuli 

demokratiis centris Telavis 

ofisis koordinatoric. 

nikoloz SarvaSiZe ganmar- 

tavs, rom decentralizaciis 

mniSvnelovani komponentebi 

saSemosavlo gadasaxadis adg- 

ilobriv biujetSi datoveba, 

moqalaqeTa CarTuloba, TviT- 

mmarTveli erTeulebisTvis 

qonebis gadacema dokumentSi 

ar aris asaxuli: 

„decentralizaciis Sesaxeb 

mTavrobis mier SemuSavebul 

strategiaSi bevri mniSvnelovani 

Temaa wamoWrili, Tumca 

zogierTi sakiTxi ar aris am 

strategiaSi gaTvaliswinebuli 

da Zireulad CaSlili. esenia 

TviTmmarTvelobebisTvis qonebis 

gadacema, saSemosavlo gadasaxadis 

adgilobriv biujetSi 

datoveba, moqalaqeTa CarTuloba 

da sxva. imedi gvaqvs, rom 

es procesi bolomde miva, iqneba 

ufro detaluri da konkretuli. 

visurvebdiT, rom am sakiTxSi 

adgilobrivi TviTmmar- 

Tvelobebi metad iyvnen CarTuli, 

rom maTi xedvebi da mosazrebebi 

dokumentSi aisaxos, 

radgan maT ukeT ician problemuri 

sakiTxebi. 

Zalian kargi iqneba, Tuki saxelmwifo 

gadawyvets, rom saSemosavlo 

gadasaxadis didi nawili 

adgilobriv biujetSi dar- 

Ces. rac Seexeba decentralizacias, 

vfiqrob, am mimarTulebiT 

CamorCena gvaqvs, radgan 

kanonmdebloba am kuTxiT dauxvewavia. 

mniSvnelovania, rom am 

sakiTxebze msjeloba da fiqri 

daiwyo da amas iTvaliswinebs 

evrokavSirTan dadebuli asocirebis 

xelSekrulebac”. 

kaxeTis regionis municipalitetebis 

Telavis, siRnaRis, 

yvarlisa da lagodexis adgilobrivi 

TviTmmarTvelobebis 

warmomadgenlebs 2019-2015 wlebis 

decentralizaciis strat- 

Tavis municipalitetSi, aramed 

qveyanaSi ekonomikuri ganvi- 

Tarebis process. 

turizmis mosakreblis SemoReba 

strategiiT gaTvaliswinebuli 

ar aris. dokumentSi 

weria, rom gadaxedili iqneba 

mosakreblebis sakiTxi. zogadad, 

mosakreblebis Sesaxeb kanoni 

moZvelebulia da teqnikuri 

TvalsazrisiTac gadasaxedia. 

Semdeg SesaZlebelia Tundac 

turistuli mosakreblebis SemoReba 

garkveuli municipalitetebisTvis, 

sadac turistuli 

centrebia. 

yvela Tanxmdeba, rom adgilobrivi 

TviTmmarTvelobis 

realur damoukideblobamde 

kidev bevri RonisZiebis ganxorcielebaa 

saWiro. 

mmarTvelobis decentralizacia, 

romelic evrokavSirTan 

gaformebuli asocirebis xelSekrulebis 

erT-erTi mTavari 

moTxovnaa, qveynis winaSe kvlav 

seriozul gamowvevad rCeba. 

`decentralizaciis Sesaxeb mTavrobis mier SemuSavebul 

strategiaSi bevri mniSvnelovani Temaa wamoWrili, Tumca 

zogierTi sakiTxi ar aris am strategiaSi gaTvaliswinebuli 

da Zireulad CaSlili. esenia TviTmmarTvelobebisTvis 

qonebis gadacema, saSemosavlo gadasaxadis adgilobriv 

biujetSi datoveba, moqalaqeTa CarTuloba da sxva~ 

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ratom gaqra quTaisis gasarTobi adgilebis 

levan WavWaniZe _ biznesmeni, 

kafe-kino „brazersis” mflobeli: 

„rodesac proeqti qalaqis 

mers warvudgineT, didi mowoneba 

da interesi gamoTqva. Cvenc imedi 

mogveca. gancxadebis warsadgenad 

meriis kulturis ganyofilebis 

samsaxuris ufrosTan, miranda 

kupravasTan mivediT. man 

proeqtis dafinansebaze kategoriuli 

uari ganacxada. misi TqmiT, 

„ukinoo qalaqSi” saerTaSoriso 

kinofestivalis Catareba SeuZlebelia. 

es argumenti Zalian sustia, 

vinaidan arsebobs magaliTebi 

imisa, rom qalaqebSi, sadac kino 

ar aris, msgavsi festivali bevrjer 

Catarebula da sakmaod warmatebuladac. 

qalbatonma mirandam 

ganacxada, es proeqti rogor 

davafinanso, roca qalaqis merma 

Cems Zalian mniSvnelovan proeqtebze 

uari ganmicxadao. proeqti 

rom gavacaniT, man da misma TanamSromelma 

sicili daiwyes”. 

quTaisis meriis kulturis ganyofilebis 

samsaxuris yofili 

ufrosi, miranda kuprava, adasturebs, 

rom proeqti ar moewona, 

Tumca ambobs, gadawyvetilebis 

mimRebi TviTon ar iyo: 

„me ra momwons da ra ar momwons, 

ase namdvilad ar muSaobs kulturis 

samsaxuri. Cems zemoT uam- 

Sorena laRaZe 

quTaisSi pirveli 3D kinoTeat- 

ri 2015 wels gaixsna. puSkinis 

557 56 23 66 

#10-Si kafem da kinom, saxelwod- 

ebiT „brazersi”, ramdenime weli iarseba. 

biznesmenebma levan WavWaniZem 

da Tornike mWedliZem gadawyvites, 

qalaqis istoriul ubanSi 

mciredarbaziani kinoTeatri moewyoT. 

ideis gansaxorcieleblad 

maT sesxi gamoitanes da gauremontebel 

farTSi, rogorc Tavad amboben, 

yvelaferi nulidan daiwyes. 

mayurebels 3D formatis filmebisa 

da kinopremierebis naxva 

SeeZloT. rogorc kinoTeatris 

damfuZneblebi amboben, Tavdapirvelad 

aqtivoba didi iyo, magram 

maleve minelda. amas garda, biznesmenebs 

problemebi laris gaufasurebamac 

Seuqmna. damwyebi biznesmenebi 

sesxis dafarvas kinoTeatridan 

Semosuli TanxiT veRar 

axerxebdnen. miuxedavad problemebisa, 

didi motivaciiT agrZelebdnen 

sxvadasxva aqtivobas kinos 

SesanarCuneblad. Seecadnen, xel- 

Sewyoba adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobidanac 

mieRoT. levanma da 

Tornikem erToblivi proeqti SeimuSaves, 

romelic moicavda quTaisSi 

saerTaSoriso, moklemetra- 

Jiani kinofestivalis Catarebas. 

proeqtis saprizo fondi 5-6 aTas 

lars moicavda. rogorc proeqtis 

avtorebi acxadeben, maTi idea 

qalaqis merma moiwona, Tumca qu- 

Taisis meriis kulturis samsaxuris 

ganyofilebis ufrosma, miranda 

kupraZem, dafinansebaze uari 

ganacxada. 

rogorc levan WavWaniZe ambobs, 

proeqti, saxelwodebiT „Te- 

Tri xidi”, moicavda saerTaSoriso 

moklemetraJian kinofestivals, 

romelic sxvadasxva qalaq- 

Si xSirad ewyoba da sakmaod warmatebuladac. 

ravi adamiania, vinc iRebs gadawyvetilebebs. 

nominaluri ganyofilebis 

ufrosi mqvia, vinaidan 

aranairi gadawyvetilebis miReba 

ar SemiZlia. rac Seexeba proeqts, 

didi ganxilva ar sWirdeboda, ar 

iyo saintereso. me vTqvi, Cems nebaze 

rom yofiliyo damokidebuli, 

proeqts ar davafinansebdi, Tumca 

gadawvetileba me ar mimiRia. 

jer erTi, proeqtis vadebi imTaviTve 

iyo araseriozuli. es rom 

iyos lokaluri, regionuli festivali, 

gasagebia, Tumca saerTa- 

Sorisoze rom gaqvs pretenzia, 

amisTvis Sesabamisad momzadebuli 

unda iyo. saerTaSoriso proeqti 

erT TveSi? _ sasaciloa”. 

xelSewyobis ararsebobisa da 

finansuri problemebis gamo 2017 

wels kafe-kino „brazersi” daixura, 

rac damwyebi biznesmenebisTvis 

imedgacruebis mizezi gaxda. 

„miuxedavad imisa, rom sazogadoebisTvis 

xelmisawvdomi fasebi 

iyo, bevrjer gvqonda sapremiero 

filmebi, 3D Cvenebebi, ar isurves, 

qalaqSi kinoTeatri SeenarCunebinaT. 

adamianebma, romelTac See- 

ZloT, xeli SeewyooT mcire zomis 

kinodarbazi SeenarCunebinaT, 

uari Tqves amaze. arc sazogadoebis 

da arc meriis aranairi mxardaWera 

ar gvigrZnia. quTaisSi normaluri 

qseli bizness ar flobs. 

adgilobrivebisTvis Wama-sma da 

Casacmelia yvelaze mniSvnelovani. 

am qalaqSi investicias aRarasdros 

ganvaxorcielebT”, _ am- 

bobda maSin levan WavWaniZe. 

mogvianebiT, „brazersis” yofilma 

mflobelebma qalaqis meriis 

kulturis samsaxuri kinofestivalis 

ideis moparvaSi daadana- 

Saules. 

„SeiZleba, Cemi pasuxi dagvianebulicaa 

da sajaro moxelis- 

Tvis, albaT, zedmetad emociuric, 

magram vfiqrob, mainc aucilebeli”, 

aRniSnavda quTaisis meriis 

kulturis samsaxuris maSindeli 

xelmZRvaneli levan WavWaniZis 

braldebis sapasuxod feisbukpostSi. 

kulturis samsaxuris yofili 

xelmZRvaneli _ TamTa TurmaniZe 

werda: 

„adamianisTvis ar arsebobs imaze 

didi dasja, rodesac masSi, mis 

arsSi vinme eWvs Seitans, cils 

daswamebs da usamarTlo braldebas 

wauyenebs. 

dagvianebuli ki imitom aris 

Cemi pasuxi, rom CemTvis garkveuli 

moraluri sazRvrebi arsebobs, 

romlis iqiTac arafriT ar 

gadaval. vici, rom pativi unda 

vce im uwyebas da im adamianebs, 

visTan erTadac vmuSaob da Cemi 

raime zedmeti aqtivobiT aravis 

vavno. magram axla rodesac saqme 

Cems Rirsebas da profesiul reputacias 

exeba, es axsna-ganmarteba 

unda gavakeTo, ara rogorc sajaro 

moxelem, aramed rogorc 

pirovnebam. 

am dReebSi iwereboda, TiTqos, 

me levan WavWaniZis proeqti movipare. 

marTali giTxraT, iqve gamiCnda 

survili sasamarTloSi me- 

Civla saqmiani reputaciis Selaxvis, 

ciliswamebisa da sajaro sivrceSi 

Seuracxyofis miyenebisTvis 

(miT umetes, levanis piradi 

gverdi da sainformacio saagentoebisTvis 

micemuli komentarebi 

namdvilad iZleoda amis saSualebas), 

magram Tavi Sevikave, jer 

erTi, rom saerTod ver vitan momCivan 

xalxs da Tan raRacnairad 

mainc TanavugrZnobdi levans, 

sadRac mesmoda kidec misi, rom 

ar gaamarTla misma wamowyebam, imedgacruebulia 

da Sesabamisad, 

albaT, yvelgan da yvelaferSi 

damnaSaves eZebs. Tan sakuTar Tavsac 

varwmunebdi, rom „kinoSniki” 

ar SeiZleba, cudi tipi iyos, albaT, 

SeeSala da mixvdeba amas-meTqi. 

magram axla ukve iseTi arajansaRi 

xasiaTi miiRo am yvelaferma, 

rom levan WavWaniZes namdvilad 

vuCivleb, oRond ara rogorc 

sajaro moxele, aramed rogorc 

kerZo piri! erTxel xom mainc unda 

Seiqmnas am qveyanaSi precedenti 

imisa, rom aravis aqvs ufleba, 

daumsaxureblad da dausjelad 

cili daswamos adamians da saxalxod 

Seurcxyofa miayenos mxolod 

imitom, rom am meores es 

ybadaRebuli Tmenis valdebuleba 

aqvs. 

magram emociebs SeveSvaT da 

logikur jaWvs mivyveT: 

1) meriaSi iseve, rogorc nebismier 

sajaro struqturaSi, arsebobs 

eleqtronuli saqmeTwarmoebis 

sistema, Sesabamisad, iq zustad 

Cans dokumentis moZraoba, 

vis daewera da vin iyo pasuxismgebeli 

masze. is proeqti, romelic 

ara levan WavWaniZis, aramed Tornike 

mWedliZis saxeliT iyo Semotanili 

2016 wlis 8 seqtembers, Cemamde 

saerTod ar mosula dokumentaciis 

saxiT, risi gadamowmebac 

Zalian iolia. mas mxolod 

axla gavecani da vasajaroeb kidec. 

Tavis gancxadebebSi levani 

araerTxel ambobs, rom TiTqos 

TariRic ki emTxveva, (telekompania 

„mega tivis” siuJetSi proeqtis 

pirvel gverdsac asajaroebs, 

sadac RonisZiebis gamarTvis TariRad 

20-30 noemberi weria, rac 

SegiZliaT meriaSi realurad Semosul 

proeqts SeadaroT). am dokumentidan 

ki Cans, rom isini 1-10 

dekembers gegmavdnen mis gamarTvas. 

danarTi ki, romelic gancxadebas 

Tan axlavs, ar aris saproeqto 

ganacxadi, es aris aqtivobebis 

zogadi CamonaTvali, romelic 

universaluria nebismieri msgavsi 

xasiaTis RonisZiebisTvis da 

ara konkretuli programa da, Sesabamisad, 

araviTar „mosapar” informacias 

ar Seicavs. nebismier 

dainteresebul adamians vTavazob, 

Seadaros am axalgazrdebis 

mier warmodgenili CamonaTvali 

16-19 noembers quTaisSi dagegmili 

RonisZiebis programas; 

2) erTaderTi da mTavari uxerxuloba 

saxelis damTxvevaa, 

Tumca amasac aqvs Tavisi mizezi, 

radgan namdvilad ar unda iyos 

gasakviri, rom quTaiseli adamianisTvis 

TeTri xidi, pikasos biWi 

da kino erTmaneTTan asocirdebodes. 

es yvelaze martivi da 

logikuria; 

3) Tu zogadad festivalis gamarTvis 

idea miaCnia, rom eqskluziurad 

mas ekuTvnis quTaisSi, 

amaSic ver daveTanxmebi da mgoni, 

veravin Semedaveba, rom erT qalaqSi 

SeiZleba ramdenime festivali 

arsebobdes da ar aqvs mniSvneloba, 

Tu vis gauCndeba es idea 

pirvelad. an gana aseTi gasakviria, 

rom kinomcodnes sakuTar 

qalaqSi kinofestivalis dafuZneba 

undodes? 

4) es argumenti ki ukve bevr- 

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siidan kafe-kino `brazersi~? 

linCiki iyenebda Cems nivTebs. am 

drois ganmavlobaSi Cven viTxovdiT 

nivTebis gatanas neitralur 

adgilze, rom ar hqonoda cve- 

Ta, magram es moTxovna ar dakmayofilda. 

linCiki da misi „megobrebi” 

11-aTas larian davalianebas 

gvedavebodnen. es Tanxa xelovnurad 

gaberes. Tuki is nivTebi, 

romlebsac isini iyenebdnen, 

iqneboda pirvandel mdgomareoba- 

Si, Cven yvelafers gavyiddiT da 

aRniSnul Tanxas gavistumrebdiT. 

dResdReobiT es qoneba da nivTebi 

aRar Rirs 11 aTasi, Sesabamisad, 

valsac ver davfaravT. didi 

albaTobiT, farTis Semsyidveli 

jer moviyvane, rom 2015 wels 

kulturis biujetSi ukve ido 

moklemetraJiani filmebis festivali, 

romelic, samwuxarod, ar 

ganxorcielda. Cemi sityvebis simarTlis 

dasamtkiceblad Tan 

vurTav 2015 wlis biujets. 

ar ganxorcielda ki imitom, 

rom festivalis Catareba, miT 

umetes saerTaSoriso masStabiT, 

kinosferos did codnas, gamocdilebas, 

pasuxismgeblobas da 

Zalisxmevas moiTxovs da seriozuli 

mxardaWeris gareSe warmoudgenelia. 

amitomac SevxvdiT 

aseTi enTuziazmiT erovnuli kinocentris 

SemoTavazebas er- 

Toblivi RonisZiebis Sesaxeb. miT 

umetes, rom 2018 wlis biujetSi 

Tavidanve kvlav Caisva moklemetraJiani 

filmebis festivali. 

da rac mTavaria, minda vusurvo 

quTaiss, rac SeiZleba meti 

saintereso kinoRonisZiebis Catareba, 

rac xels Seuwyobs qalaqis 

kulturul ganviTarebas da quTaiss 

kinos daubrunebs. ubralod, 

Zalian gulsawyvetia, rom maradiuli 

qarTuli „ara me, ara Cemias” 

ZaxilSi qalaqi kidev erT karg 

RonisZiebas dakargavs, albaT. 

Zalian vwuxvar! levans ki sasamarTloSi 

velodebi!” 

aRniSnuli braldebis Semdeg 

kafe-kino „brazersis” yofilma 

mflobelebma socialur qselSi 

kidev erTi ambavi gaasajaroves _ 

levan WavWaniZe ramdenime Tvea, 

sakuTar feisbuqze avrcelebs vi- 

deoebsa da statusebs, sadac is 

ambobs, rom misi biznesi miitac- 

es: 

„megobrebo, dReidan vapireb, 

rom intensiur reJimSi vebrZolo 

usamarTlobas, usamarTlo sasamarTlos 

da araadamianTa mTels 

jgufs”, _ wers levan WavWaniZe 

„laiv” videos saTaurad. video 5 

ivnisiT TariRdeba: 

„Cveni biznesi, kafe-kino brazersi 

warTmeulia. movuwodeb Cems 

megobrebs daxmarebisaken. minda, 

yvelam icodes is adamianebi, romlebmac 

biznesi wagvarTves. Sps kafe-kino 

„brazersi” wagvarTva daviT 

linCikma, romelic Tbilisis 

meriis erT-erTi a(a)ip-is iuristad 

muSaobs, aseve am ambavSi monawileobdnen 

uCa (uSangi) janeliZe, 

naTia miqacaZe. mosamarTlem 

ukve meramdened miiRo ukanono 

gadawyvetileba. daviT linCiki 

Caeria sagamoZiebo organoebis 

muSaobaSi, aseve prokuraturis 

muSaobaSi. man Cafarcxa misi ojaxis 

winaaRmdeg aRZruli sisxlis 

samarTlis saqme Tavisi saaxloblo 

wris gamoyenebiT. am brZola- 

Si marto varT da daxmarebas vi- 

N25 (286) 23.07-5.08.2019 w. 

TxovT. ori wlis manZilze mosamarTles 

ukanonod hqonda Cveni 

qoneba yadaRadadebuli. am drois 

manZilze daviT linCiki farTs iyenebda. 

amis Sedegad maT asiaTasobiT 

lari iSoves. ramdenime 

TveSi farTs auqcionze gaitanen 

da gayidian. ori wlis manZilze 

`miuxedavad imisa, rom sazogadoebisTvis 

xelmisawvdomi fasebi iyo, bevrjer gvqonda 

sapremiero filmebi, 3D Cvenebebi, ar isurves, 

qalaqSi kinoTeatri SeenarCunebinaT. 

adamianebma, romelTac SeeZloT, xeli 

SeewyooT mcire zomis kinodarbazi 

SeenarCunebinaT, uari Tqves amaze. arc 

sazogadoebis da arc meriis aranairi 

mxardaWera ar gvigrZnia. quTaisSi normaluri 

qseli bizness ar flobs. adgilobrivebisTvis 

Wama-sma da Casacmelia yvelaze mniSvnelovani. 

am qalaqSi investicias aRarasdros 

ganvaxorcielebT~ 

iqneba linCikis axlobeli, naTesavi, 

romelic iafad SeiZens qonebas 

da Cven araferi dagvrCeba, 

isev da isev, davalianebis garda”. 

levan WavWaniZe amJamad emigraciaSia. 

rogorc igi „qroni- 

ka+~-sTan ambobs, sazRvargareT 

samuSaod wasvla valebis gamo 

gadawyvita: 

„2015 wels obieqti eqvswliani 

ijariT, xelSekrulebis safuZvelze 

aviReT. daviT linCiki ma- 

Sinac Tbilisis meriis a(a)ip-is 

iuristi iyo. maSin es farTi mis 

Zmas ekuTvnoda. xelSekruleba 

swored am adamianTan gavaformeT. 

daviwyeT nulidan: carieli kedlebi 

gavakeTeT, SevitaneT aveji, 

danadgarebi. rodesac muSaoba 

daviwyeT, nebismieri finansuri 

Cavardnis dros es piri xels gviwyobda. 

mogvianebiT, gavigeT, rom 

linCikebma farTi sakuTar dedaze 

_ marina modebaZeze gadaaformes. 

amiT mTeli pasuxismgebloba qalbatonze 

gadavida. es ambavi ar- 

Rvevda xelSekrulebis punqtebs. 

mogvianebiT, dolaris kursis cvlilebam 

garkveuli finansuri 

problemebi mogvitana. maSin far- 

Tis mflobeli cdilobda, CvenTvis 

xeli Seewyo. amis gamo ori 

wlis manZilze 7 aTas laramde davalianeba 

dagvigrovda. am davalianebis 

Sesaxeb mflobelma icoda 

da sityvierad gveubneboda, rom 

fuls aRar mogvTxovda. rodesac 

muSaoba SevwyiteT da obieqtis gaqiraveba 

gadavwyviteT, problemebic 

daiwyo. linCikebma SemogvTavazes, 

droulad dagvetovebina farTi 

da eqvswliani xelSekruleba 

oTx wlamde dagveyvana, Tumca 

amaze uari vTqviT da farTis moqiravnis 

Zebna gavagrZeleT. qvemeijare 

male vipoveT da masTan xelSekrulebis 

gaformebisTvis 

zrunva daviwyeT. am dros aRmovaCine, 

rom moqiravne _ uSangi 

janeliZe _ mTel rig sakiTxebs 

ara CvenTan, aramed linCikebTan 

aTanxmebda. rTuli ekonomikuri 

mdgomareobis gamo me maleve wamovedi 

emigraciaSi. farTi ori 

wliT gavaqiraveT, Tumca moqiravne, 

im mizeziT, rom Semosavali 

ar hqonda, Tanxas ver gvixdida. 

am mizezis gamo mTeli qoneba 

dagviyadaRes. dagvrCa erTaderTi 

gamosavali _ moqiravnes unda daetovebina 

farTi. moTxovnaze uari 

miviReT. amasobaSi janeliZes 

CvenTan 6 aTasi laris davalianeba 

daugrovda. dasaluqad misul 

saaRsrulebo policias farTze 

marina modebaZe daxvda. modebaZem 

ganacxada, rom aRsrulebis policias 

farTSi ver SeuSvebda. aRmasrulebelma 

adgilze patruli 

gamoiZaxa da amis Semdeg saqme gamosaZieblad, 

prokuraturas gadaeca. 

mogvianebiT, sxvadasxva mizezis 

gamo, saqme quTaisis policiis 

me-2 ganyofilebas gaugzavnes. 

policiaSi mxolod marine modebaZe 

daikiTxa. man ganacxada, rom 

aRmasruleblisTvis xeli ar SeuSlia 

da, ubralod, gasaRebi Tan 

ar hqonda. policias ar daukiTxavs 

aRmasrulebeli, arc sxva piri 

_ naTia miqacaZe, uSangi janeliZe, 

me da Cemi partniori. saqme daixura 

da Cven isev haerSi davrCiT. 

amjerad sasamarTlo im vals gvedaveba, 

romelzec zemoT vsaubrobdiT. 

qoneba dayadaRebulia, is 

Tanxa ki, romelic janeliZisgan 

gvekuTvnoda, saerTod gaqra”. 

Tornike mWedliZe _ kafe-kino 

„brazersis” meore mflobeli: 

„vfiqrob, uSangi janeliZec 

linCikebma mogvigzavnes. Tuki janeliZes 

CvenTan qiris Tanxis 

gadaxdis problema hqonda, Cveni 

saqmidan gasvlis Semdeg man mSvidad 

gaagrZela muSaoba da dRemde 

muSaobs”. 

„qronika+~ meore mxares _ uS- 

angi janeliZes daukavSirda: 

„absurdulia yvelaferi. lin- 

Ciks da meore mxares dava aqvT er- 

TmaneTSi. yvelafers sasamarTlo- 

Si arkveven da me Tu mekiTxebiT, 

wavarTvi Tu ara vinmes rame, es, ubralod, 

erTi adamianis nabodvaria”. 

iq, sadac ramdenime wlis win 3D 

kinoTeatri iyo, axla kafe „B 12" 

funqcionirebs, romelic uSangi 

janeliZes ekuTvnis. linCikis, 

WavWaniZisa da mWedliZis davas ki 

dRemde sasamarTlo arkvevs. 

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`meamayeba, rom Cemi qveynis 

germaniaSi moRvawe cnobili 

giorgi sakaruli 

qarTveli mevioline, bela berke- 

555 42 42 90 

mer-maxaraZe da misi meuRle, germaneli 

kompozitori, uve berke- 

meri, saqarTveloSia. „qronika+~ musikosebs ojaxSi estumra 

da qarTvelebs monatrebuli guruli qalbatoni siyvaruliT 

gagvimaspinZlda. 

bela maxaraZe ozurgeTelia, 

natanebidan. musika pianistma 

dedam Seayvara da ambobs, rom 

simReris niWic dedisgan gamoyva. 

xuTi wlis asakSi daiwyo fortepianoze 

dakvra, odnav mogvi- 

anebiT ki violinozec Seiyvanes 

da cxra wlis asakSi ukve baTumis 

simfoniur da kamerul orkestr- 

Tan erTad ukravda. 

konservatoriaSi liana isaka- 

Zem maleve SeamCnia niWieri mevioline, 

misi pirveli stipendian- 

tic swored bela gaxda da kon- 

certebSic xSirad monawileobda. 

belam momavali meuRle, uve 

berkemeri, liana iasakaZisgan gaicno, 

is saqarTveloSi special- 

uri mowveviT imyofeboda. ambobs, 

rom erTmaneTi erTi naxviT Seuy- 

vardaT. 

baTumis zaqaria faliaSvilis 

saxelobis saxelmwifo konserva- 

toriis darbazSi, 30 wlis Semdeg, 

bela berkemer-maxaraZe axla ukve 

meuRlesTan erTad daukravs. 

bela berkemer-maxaraZe: 

_ saqarTvelo CemTvis yvelaferia. 

Cemi guli, suli, cxovreba 

mxolod es qveyanaa, romelic sul 

menatreba. bednieri var, rom Cemi 

meuRlisTvis saqarTvelo Zalian 

Zvirfasia. nomer pirveli dasasvenebeli 

adgilia da meamayeba, rom 

Cems meuRlesa da ojaxis yvela 

wevrs saqarTvelo sigiJemde uyvars. 

Cveni amJamindeli viziti koncerts 

ukavSirdeba, romelic ba- 

Tumis konservatoriis darbazSi 

gaimarTeba. es adgili CemTvis gansakuTrebul 

mogonebebTan da 

emociebTan asocirdeba, radgan am 

scenaze avidgi fexi da 9 wlis asak- 

Si orkestrTan erTad davukari. 30 

wlis Semdeg pirvelad vukrav ba- 

Tumis konservatoriis scenaze. am 

zafxuls aq gavatarebT da mere 

isev wavalT germaniaSi. 

_ saqarTveloSi Camosvla xSir- 

ad giwevT? 

_ miuxedavad imisa, rom sakmaod 

xSirad Camovdivar xolme, jer 

Camosuli ar var, rom ukve mivtiri 

saqarTvelos. iseTi STabeWdileba 

mrCeba, rom is eqvsi kvira CemTvis 

TiTqos erTi dRea. uzomod 

Seyvarebuli var saqarTveloze. 

_ mogviyeviT iqaur cxovreba- 

ze. mkiTxvelisTvis rom ufro 

gasagebi iyos, ras akeTebT germa- 

niaSi, sad moRvaweobT? 

_ garda imisa, rom me da Cemi 

meuRle solokoncertebs erTad 

vmarTavT evropis sxvadasxva qalaqSi, 

me vmuSaob germaniaSi sajaro 

skolaSi musikis pedagogad, Cemi 

meuRle gimnaziaSi geografias aswavlis, 

aseve hyavs gundi da orkestri, 

kerZo moswavleebic myavs 

da Cems xalxs socialuri qselidan 

veferebi. 

_ Tqveni feisbuqidan Tu vimsjelebT, 

Zalian bevri Tayvanism- 

cemeli gyavT. 

_ diax, namdvilad. xSirad mifiqria, 

rom aqamde rogor varsebobdi 

socialuri qselis gareSe. 

imdeni adamiani gavicani, rom maTi 

saxiT uamravi megobari SeviZine. 

_ rogorc vici, saqarTveloSi 

roca CamodixarT, Tayvanismcem- 

lebTan patar-patara Sekrebebsac 

akeTebT xolme. es Tqveni sur- 

viliT xdeba? 

_ Sekrebebsac vakeTeb da miwveven 

kidec. wina Camosvlaze Tbilisis 

konservatoriaSi mqonda 

koncerti da iseTi ambavi iyo, rom 

koncerti koncertiT gagrZelda _ 

saCuqrebis gadmocema, fotoebis 

gadaReba, siyvaruli, Caxuteba da 

zRva emocia. gavgiJdi, iseTi ambavi 

iyo. maxsovs, rodesac qalbaton 

liana isakaZis studenti viyavi, 

masze vabodebdi da im periodSi 

Zalian rTulad uSvebdnen vinmes 

warmatebuli koncertis misalocad 

kulisebSi, Semdeg ukve is 

Cemi mejvare gaxda da Zalian davaxlovdiT, 

magram iqidan tkivili 

gamomyva, rom ar mqonda masTan 

misvlis saSualeba, gulSi Camekra. 

axla sul vcdilob, SesaZlebeli 

gavxado CemTan mosvla da ocneba 

davukmayofilo. me minda, rom yvelasTvis 

misaRwevi gavxde da amitom 

TiToeul adamians vikrav gul- 

Si. aravis minda, rom Cemi Tavi davamadlo. 

yvela dediSobila movdivarT 

amqveynad da aravis araferi 

migvaqvs imqveynad, arc Cveni diplomi, 

wodeba da qoneba. 

_ qalbatono bela, Zalian bevr 

qveyanaSi gaqvT koncertebi. ra 

gansxvavebaa ucxoel da qarTvel 

msmenels Soris? 

_ iseTi koncertebi Cagvitarebia, 

rom wamoZaxilebi da ovacia 

yovelTvis ismis xolme, magram 

germaniaSi TviTon koncertis msvlelobisas 

buzis gafrenis xmac ki 

ar ismis. vin gabedavs mobiluris 

amoRebas da Sig Zromials, kulturaa 

ufro sxvanairi, Tumca ase- 

Ti ram arc aq xdeba Cems koncertebze. 

viRacis CamiCumis xma Tu gavige, 

SemiZlia gavCerde, Sevxedo mas 

ìseTi koncertebi Cagvitarebia, rom 

wamoZaxilebi da ovacia yovelTvis ismis 

xolme, magram germaniaSi TviTon koncertis 

msvlelobisas buzis gafrenis xmac ki ar ismis. 

vin gabedavs mobiluris amoRebas da Sig 

Zromials, kulturaa ufro sxvanairi, Tumca 

aseTi ram arc aq xdeba Cems koncertebze. 

viRacis CamiCumis xma Tu gavige, SemiZlia 

gavCerde, Sevxedo mas da gavagrZelo dakvra. 

aravis mivcem uflebas, Cems koncertze vinme 

sxva ramiT iyos dakavebuli~ 

`germanel msmenels qarTuli 

musika gansakuTrebiT 

uyvars da moswons~ 

da gavagrZelo dakvra. aravis mivcem 

uflebas, Cems koncertze vinme 

sxva ramiT iyos dakavebuli. Zalian 

didi pauzis Semdeg guriaSi, Cems 

sofelSi Cavatare klasikuri musikis 

saRamo da mcdeloba iyo, rom 

biWebi gadioden da gamodiodnen. 

mere maT vuTxari, _ SegiZliaT dabrZandeT 

an gabrZandeT-meTqi, pirdapir 

vuTxari da amis Semdeg CamiCumi 

ar ismoda koncertze. vfiqrob, 

Tuki adamians Tavxedobis 

uflebas miscem, igi aucileblad 

iqneba Tavxedi. magaliTad, germaniaSi 

rodesac tardeba salonuri 

stilis saRamoebi, magidebi dgas, 

sadac dalagebulia sasmeli, magram 

rac ar unda swyurodeT, 

nawarmoebis Sesrulebis dros arc 

ki moafiqrdebaT, rom sasmisi aiRon 

da dalion. am mxriv Zalian didi 

gansxvavebaa Cvensa da germanel 

msmenels Soris. arafriT ar Sei- 

Zleba koncertze dagvianeba, rogorc 

ki kari ixureba, aRaravin SemogiSvebs 

darbazSi. 

_ es iqidan gamomdinarec xom 

ar xdeba, rom germanelebi gan- 

sakuTrebuli punqtualurobiT 

gamoirCevian da garda amisa, kla- 

sikur musikas bevri mimdevari 

hyavs iq, vidre saqarTveloSi. 

asea? 

_ germanelebi, ra Tqma unda, 

didi punqtualurobiT gamoirCevian, 

magram sxva mxriv SemiZlia 

Tamamad giTxraT, rom aq Zalian 

didi kulturaa, ubralod, xalxs 

ar SeuZlia xSirad iaros klasikuri 

musikis saRamoebze. adre xSirad 

davdiodiT koncertebze, dRes 

dro Seicvala, xalxi sxva yofiTi 

problemebiT aris dakavebuli da 

gadarTulia, rom saWmlis fuli 

moipovos, Torem yvelas uyvars 

Teatri, opera, klasika, garToba, 

magram yvelaferi finansebzea damokidebuli. 

Tbilisi am mxriv mainc 

duRs, rasac ver vityvi regionebze. 

germania mainc didi qveyanaa, 

sadac bevri ramis gakeTebac SegiZlia, 

xalxi koncertebze dadis, 

aqvs amis SesaZlebloba da a. S. 

_ Tqvens meuRleze ras gvetyviT. 

guruli qalbatoni brZandeb- 

iT, kamaTi xSirad raze giwevT 

xolme? 

_ rodesac vmecadineobT, mxolod 

maSin mogvdis kamaTi da notebi 

dafrinavs xolme. sxva mxriv 

ki Cemi qmrisnairi marTla unda 

inatros nebismierma qalbatonma, 

radgan, rogorc ityvian, sanTliT 

saZebari adamiania. marTla Zalian 

gamimarTla, xels miwyobs yvelaferSi, 

sul cdilobs, riT masiamovnos 

da rac yvelaze mTavaria, 

Zalian vuyvarvar da saqarTveloze 

giJdeba. dedaCemi metyvis 

xolme, rom Senze meti qarTveliao. 

_ qarTulad saubrobs? 

_ mSvenivrad. yvelafers gebu- 

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popularizaciaSi wvlili Semaqvs~ 

lobs, marTalia, gramatikulad da 

gamarTulad ver saubrobs, magram 

yvelafers gelaparakeba. 

_ Tqveni qaliSvilebic kla- 

sikuri musikis mimdevrebi arian 

da xSirad koncertebze TqvenTan 

erTad gamodian. es maTi arCevani 

iyo, Tu mSoblebis zegavlenis 

qveS moeqcnen? 

_ jer kidev mucelSi iyvnen, 

rom sul esmodaT klasikuri musika, 

Tu rogor mecadineobda deda 

saaTobiT, koncertebze rogor 

gamodioda, rogor Relavda, anu 

CemTan erTad gaiares es gza muclidanve. 

sxvanairad verc ki warmoudgeniaT. 

izrdebian ojaxSi, sadac 

musikiT cocxloben. ninas 

(ufrosi qaliSvili) ukve Zalian 

didi warmatebebi aqvs, Tumca Tavidan 

wvalobda. ambobda kidec, ar 

minda musikosi gamovideo da rodesac 

vuTxariT, dro movida, Tvi- 

Ton, damoukideblad aerCia profesia, 

swored maSin mixvda, rom 

musika mTeli misi cxovreba iyo. 

_ ra profesia undoda, rom 

aerCia? 

_ TviTonac ar icoda, ubralod, 

musikaSi mecadineoba ezareboda. 

_ klasikuri musikis koncerte- 

bze, ZiriTadad, ufrosi Taobis 

warmomadgenlebi dadian xolme, 

rasac ver vityviT Tqvenze, rad- 

gan bevri axalgazrda SeiniSneba 

Tqvens koncertebze. 

_ me, upirveles yovlisa, var 

klasikosi, magram mivxvdi, rom Tu 

ginda msmenels uyvarde da moizido, 

yvelas unda moergo, anu ar 

gqondes mxolod erTi mimarTuleba, 

unda iyo mravalferovani. miuzikli 

unda Seasrulo, unda imRero 

kidec, rom es mravalferovani 

adamianebi movidnen SenTan, imitom 

rom klasikur musikas Zalian 

cota msmeneli hyavs, samwuxarod. 

ukve tendenciaa imisa, rom klasikuri 

musikis saRamoebze 50 wlis 

qvemoT adamiani aRar modis koncertze, 

rac Zalian samwuxaroa. 

swored amitom vcdilob, rom Cemi 

koncertebi iyos Zalian mravalferovani 

da imitomac dadian axalgazrdebi, 

studentebi da bavSvebi. 

`rodesac vmecadineobT, mxolod maSin mogvdis kamaTi da notebi dafrinavs 

xolme. sxva mxriv ki Cemi qmrisnairi marTla unda inatros nebismierma 

qalbatonma, radgan, rogorc ityvian, sanTliT saZebari adamiania. marTla 

Zalian gamimarTla, xels miwyobs yvelaferSi, sul cdilobs, riT 

masiamovnos da rac yvelaze mTavaria, Zalian vuyvarvar da saqarTveloze 

giJdeba. dedaCemi metyvis xolme, rom Senze meti qarTveliao~ 

Cems koncertze 5 wlis bavSvic 

yofila. 

_ garda imisa, rom mevioline 

xarT da klasikur nawarmoebebs 

asrulebT, aseve mReriT araCveu- 

lebrivad. gansakuTrebuli xmis 

tembri gaqvT. imaSic dameTanxme- 

biT, rom bevrs, SesaZloa, smena 

hqondes, magram ver mRerodes an 

ara. simReris niWi visgan gamogy- 

vaT? 

_ dedaCemi musikosi gaxlavT, 

pianisti da dedisgan gamomyva es 

niWic, Tumca biZaCemi, kote maxaraZe, 

sul meubneboda, maxaraZeebis 

Sen araferi gaqvso, radgan me 

piradad spilom damabija yurze 

fexio. bavSvobaSi musikalur skolaSi 

damayenebdnen skamze da mam- 

Rerebdnen xolme. 5 wlidan ukve 

fortepianoze vukrav, araCveulebrivi 

pedagogi myavda da sofel 

natanebSi baTumidan Camodioda 

xolme. dRemde baTumis konservatoriis 

koncertmaisteria da SemiZlia 

vTqva, rom Zalian gamimarTla. 

man Semayvara violino. 

_ kote maxaraZe Tqveni biZa 

iyo, masTan, albaT, bevri mogone- 

ba gakavSirebT. 

_ Cems bavSvobaSi kote yovel 

zafxuls Camodioda CvenTan, 

sofelSi, Cven ki masTan TbilisSi 

CavdiodiT. mogvianebiT ki, rodesac 

niWierTa aTwledSi da Semdeg 

konservatoriaSi gavagrZele swavla, 

kotesTan vcxovrobdi. mis samuSao 

oTaxSi viZinebdi... kaxi kavsaZe, 

givi berikaSvili, nani bregvaZe... 

vin aRar modioda iq. sofikos, 

mogexsenebaT, uyvarda xelgaSlili 

cxovreba, xSirad marTavda 

saRamoebs, sadac cnobil qarTvelebTan 

erTad mec vukravdi xolme. 

maTgan gavTxovdi maT dapati- 

Jes megobrebi da patara qorwilic 

gadamixades. biZaCemsa da sofikos 

Zalian uyvardaT uve da did pativs 

scemdnen mas. kote xSirad 

meubneboda, _ erTi gamagebina, am 

soflelma, gawripulma gogom, ase- 

Ti bumberazi pirovneba rogor 

moxibleo. 

_ germaniaSi ramdenad didi 

moTxovnaa qarTul simRerebze? 

mainteresebs, Tu mReriT xolme 

iq qarTulad? 

_ ra Tqma unda. Cemi eqimi germaniaSi 

koncertis Semdeg movida 

da cxvirsaxoci maCvena, rom itira. 

imxela emocias vaCveneb mayurebels, 

rom TiTqos grZnoben 

TiToeul sityvas. yoveli koncertis 

Semdeg vmReri simReras „menatrebi”, 

romelsac Tamuna amonaSvili 

asrulebda, Tumca me Cems versias 

vTavazob mayurebels da saqarTvelos 

vuZRvni xolme. iseTi 

amociebiT xvdebian, rom sul Jruanteli 

uvliT. 

_ dabolos, ar SemiZlia ar 

gkiTxoT saqarTveloSi mimdinare 

movlenebze. TqvenTvis, rogorc 

qarTvelisTvis, ra aris is, rac 

xdeba dRes? albaT, Tqveni meuR- 

lec aqtiurad adevnebs Tvals aq 

mimdinare procesebs. ras ambobs, 

rogoria ucxo qveynidan danaxu- 

li saqarTvelo? 

_ Cemi meuRlis TvaliT danaxuli 

saqarTvelo sruliad normaluria, 

is fiqrobs, rom es demokratiaa 

da asec unda xdebodes qveynis 

ganviTareba. ubralod, Cveni 

temperamentidan gamomdinare 

Zalian eSinia, rom zedmetSi ar gadavidnen. 

Zalian frTxilad unda 

viyoT, rom mtrebi ar gavaxaroT 

da samoqalaqo omi ar daiwyos. 

Tuki es daiwyeba, amiT, upirveles 

yovlisa, Cveni mtrebi isargebleben. 

qarTvelebma erTmaneTis gatana 

unda viswavloT. aqciebs rac 

Seexeba, es demokratiuli procesia. 

ase xdeba yvela normalur 

qveyanaSi, magram Zalian frTxilad 

unda iyoTo. Cemi TvaliT danaxuli 

saqarTvelo mtkiva. rodesc 

vxedav, Tu rogor daiyo da gaixliCa 

qveyana , guli mtkiva. sxvadasxva 

azris gamo sakuTari ojaxis 

wevrebi aRar indoben erTmaneTs 

da ar SeiZleba ase. Cven erTmane- 

Tis mosmena, azris dafaseba da pativiscema 

unda viswavloT. ar var 

valdebuli, Seni azriT vicxovro, 

magram SemiZlia, Sens azrs pativi 

vce. Cemi da Cemi meuRlisTvis Zalian 

mniSvnelovania is saqme, rasac 

vemsaxurebiT, imitom rom rodesac 

koncertebs vatarebT, Cveni naxevari 

programa qarTul, kavkasiur 

musikas eZRvneba. germanel msmenels 

qarTuli musika gansakuTrebiT 

uyvars da moswons, isini saqar- 

Tveloze warmodgenas iqmnian da 

meamayeba, rom Cemi qveynis popularizaciaSi 

am kuTxiT didi wvlili 

Semaqvs. 

giorgi gziriSvili: àqcia, sadac politikosi 

ar dgas, rutinaSi gasaxvevad aris ganwiruli~ 

23-e gverdidan 

_ ra Tqma unda, daazarala. aqcia, sadac 

politikosi ar dgas, rutinaSi gasaxvevad 

aris ganwiruli. xelisuflebis specsamsaxurebma 

martivad moaxerxes aqciis diskreditacia. 

amitomac yvela saprotesto aqciis 

dros saWiroa politiosebis xedva da gamocdileba. 

20 ivnisis aqciebzec gaxsovT, sanam 

politikosebi gamodiodnen, ramdenad didi 

iyo saprotesto muxti, axlandelTan SedarebiT. 

yvelaze didi Secdoma, rac Sei- 

Zleba dauSvas aqciis organizatorma, romelsac 

politikuri moTxovnebi aqvs, aris is, 

rom politikosebi ar miuSvas saorganizacio 

nawilSi an, zogadad, aqciaze. 

_ am aqciebis Sedegad kidev erTxel 

dadasturda, rom qarTuli politikuri 

speqtri moiTxovs ganaxlebas, rom sazogadoebas 

sWirdeba axali saxeebi politika- 

Si, aqedan gamomdinare, sul ufro xSirad 

gamoTqvamen varauds imis Sesaxeb, rom 2020 

wlis saparlamento arCevnebze poli- 

tikuri partiebi am dakveTas gaiTval- 

iswineben. rogor fiqrobT, iqneba Tu ara 

gardamtexi 2020 weli politikaSi axali 

saxeebis Semosvlis TvalsazrisiT? 

_ gaaCnia, ras davarqmevT axal saxes. magaliTad, 

„qarTul ocnebas” hyavs adamianebi, 

romlebsac axal saxeebs eZaxian, Tumca 

isini namdvilad ar arian axali saxeebi, isini 

arian adamianebi, romlebic garkveuli 

Tanamdebobis an finansuri sargeblis sanacvlod 

gaakeTeben yvelafers. Cemi azriT, 

Tavad politikurma partiebma unda Ciaxedon 

sakuTar TavSi da mixvdnen imas, rom 

Zveli dro aRar aris, rom iseTi adamianebis 

dro wavida, romlebic martivad iyidebian. 

Cvens Taobas yvelaferi Zalian kargad 

axsovs da realobasac xedavs, Tu romelime 

politikosi raime Secdomas uSvebs, es karieris 

bolomde mihyveba. Cveni Taoba imdenad 

informirebulia, rom yvelafris saqmis 

kursSia. amitomac politikurma partiebma 

TavianT resursSi unda moiZion adamianebi, 

romlebsac aqvT kargi reputacia, 

`kidev erTxel aRvniSnav: 

`rusTavi 2~ iyo brendi da 

amitomac Canda dasavleTisTvis 

ase mkafiod, daskvnebic 

Sesabamisi hqondaT. rodesac 

Seiqmneba axali arxi, aseTi 

gavlena ar eqneba da verc 

dasavleTSi gaigeben, rom raime 

opoziciuri arxi arsebobs~ 

arian profesionalebi im saqmeSi, rac unda 

akeTon da aseve arian sandoebi. xSiri Sexeba 

maqvs sxvadaxva politikuri partiis axalgazrduli 

organizaciis warmomadgenlebTan 

da SemiZlia giTxraT, rom aseTi axalgazrdebi 

politikur partiebSi, ase Tu 

ise, arian. Zalian didi Secdoma iqneba politikuri 

partiebis mxridan, Tu isini 2020 

wlisTvis axalgazrdebs ar moiZieben, radgan 

es qveyanas Zalian sWirdeba. ganaxlebul 

saxeebTan erTad aucilebelia arsebuli 

politikosebis gamocdilebac. sazogadoebis 

moTxovnaa, rom Tundac televizoris 

yurebisas usminon axal saxeebs, axalgazrda 

politikosebs, imitom, rom ukve Zveli 

saxeebi Zalian bevr cud ramesTan asocirdeba 

da imedi maqvs, 2020 wels parlamentSi 

bevri gulanTebuli axalgazrda iqneba, 

romelsac marTla surs qveynis sakeTildReod 

ramis gakeTeba. aseT SemTxvevaSi 

aucileblad vigrZnobT gansxvavebas arsebul 

parlamentsa da im parlaments Soris, 

sadac Tavisuflad da progresulad moazrovne 

axalgazrdebi iqnebian. 

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rusi aRarc saTamaSod modis 

cud mocekvaves y... uSlidao, 

xom gagigiaT? rusuli gamoTqmaa 

da zustad asaxavs qarTvelebTan 

testmatCze rusi moragbeebis uaris 

arss... maT ki usafrTxoebis garantiebi 

ar arsebobso... arada, bolos 

rodis iyo tol-swori brZola 

ragbiSi ruseT-saqarTvelos 

Soris, Tu gaxsovT?! 20 weliwadze 

metia, saqarTvelo Crdiloel metoqes 

sul kudiT qvas asrolinebs... 

mokled, moxda is rac mosalodneli 

iyo. 20 ivniss ruseTis dumis 

deputat sergei gavrilovis saqarTvelos 

parlamentis Tavmjdomaris 

savarZelSi Cajdomas axali 

problema moyva. Tavisi parlamen- 

tis wevris saqarTvelodan dacvis 

TanxlebiT gastumrebas ruseTis 

federaciis prezidentma vladimir 

putinma saqarTvelosa da ruseTs 

Soris aviamimosvlis SewyvetiT upasuxa, 

rus turistebs saqarTveloSi 

stumrobisgan Tavis Sekaveba 

urCia, ramac turistuli sezonis 

Cavardna gamoiwvia. 

magram ra kavSirSia yovelive 

sportTan? saqme is gaxlavT, rom 

xsenebuli incidentidan ramdenme 

xnis Semdeg gavrcelda xmebi imis 

Sesaxeb, rom ruseTis moragbeTa 

nakrebi TbilisSi testmatCis gasamarTad 

SesaZloa, aRar Camosuliyo. 

TamaSi 27 agvistos „mixeil mesxze” 

unda gamarTuliyo, riTac 

saqarTvelos nakrebi msoflo TasisTvis 

praqtikul samzadiss daiwyebda. 

Turme, ruseTis ragbis federacia 

Rrma SeSfoTebiT akvirdeboda 

saqarTvelos demokratiul respublikaSi, 

kerZod ki TbilisSi 

ganviTarebul movlenebs da iZulebuli 

gaxda, CvenebisTvis ecnobebinaT, 

rom 27 agvistos dagegmili 

saqarTvelosa da ruseTis nakreb- 

Ta matCi aRar gaimarTeba. 

ra gaewyoba? ZaliT aq veravis 

CamoviyvanT. 

saqarTvelos ragbis kavSiris 

prezident goCa svaniZis ofic- 

ialur komentarSi ki es ikiTxeba: 

„samwuxarod, ruseTis nakrebi 

matCis Casatareblad aRar Camova, 

es gadawyvetileba miiRo ruseTis 

ragbis federaciam, mizezad daasaxeles 

TbilisSi mimdinare movlenebi 

da mosalodneli provokaciebis 

riski. 

es unda miviRoT, rogorc faqti 

da Cven ukve veZebT saqarTvelos 

nakrebisTvis sanacvlo metoqes 

imisTvis, rom 27 agvistos Tama- 

Si Sedges. saqarTveloSi am donis 

matCebi tardeboda, tardeba da 

Catardeba usafrTxo, sportul da 

sazeimo viTarebaSi. 

amis garanti saqarTvelos mTavrobaa, 

raSic saqarTvelos ragbis 

kavSiri yovelTvis gverdiT udgas 

mas Tavisi kompetenciis fargleb- 

Si. gulSematkivrebs, vinc ukve 

SeiZina saqarTvelo-ruseTis mat- 

Cis bileTebi, SeuZliaT, maTi survilis 

mixedviT an daeswron sanacvlo 

matCs, an Tu amis survili 

ar eqnebaT, maT daubrundebaT bileTis 

safasuri. 

saqarTvelos erovnuli nakrebis 

sanacvlo metoqis vinaoba uaxloes 

dReebSi gairkveva”. 

msoflioSi asobiT cnobili stadioni 

arsebobs. zogi arqiteqturuli SedevrebiT 

gvxiblavs, zogic _ Tavisi istoriiTa da 

tradiciebiT. milanis „san siro” _ yvelafriT. 

axla ki gavrcelda informacia, rom 

mis dangrevas da imave adgilze axlis aSenebas 

apireben, ramac italiuri fexburTis 

moyvarulTa didi nawilis aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia. 

mogexsenebaT, am stadionze ori milanuri 

klubi _ „milani” da „interi” Tama- 

Sobs. orive klubis xlmZRvaneloba Tanaxmaa, 

stadioni daingres. italiuri media 

imasac wers, klubebma ukve moilaparakes da 

axali stadioni 2022-23 wlebis sezonisTvis 

aSendebao. 

da kidev: dangrevis iniciativiT rosoneris 

xelmZRvanelebi gamovidnen. „interis” 

ufrosoba nawilobrivi rekonstruqciis 

momxre iyo, magram mezoblebma uari uTxres. 

dangrevis mTavar mizezad Semosavlianobis 

mkveTr Semcirebasa da moZvelebul arqiteqturul 

gadawyvetilebebs asaxeleben. 

axali arenis mSenebloba, daaxloebiT, 700 

38 

milanSi 

niu-iorki 

milioni evro dajdeba. Tumca, jerjerobiT, 

bevri ram gaurkvevelia. 

saqme is aris, rom „san siro” municipalitetis 

sakuTrebaa. Tavis mxriv, milanis meria 

dangrevis winaaRmdegia. mizezi sarbielis 

statusi gaxlavT. sxva mniSvnelovan 

saerTaSoriso SejibrebebTan erTad saxsovaric 

_ iq Catarda 1934 da 1990 wlebis 

msoflio Cempionatebis matCebi da Cempion- 

Ta ligis 2000-01 wlebis CempionTa ligis 

finali. aqve gaimarTa 1990 wlis mundialis 

gaxsnis ceremonia, reomelic erT-erT saukeTesod 

miiCneva msoflio Tasis gaxsnebis 

istoriaSi. 

milanis merma, juzepe salam, Tqva: „Cven 

ver davkargavT stadionis flobis uflebas. 

jer ar vici, rogor ganviTardeba situacia. 

veli winadadebebs klubebisgan”. 

ivlisis bolos lozanaSi sportisa da 

politikis gamoCenili warmomadgenlebi 

Seikribnen, maT Soris, „milanis” prezidenti 

paolo skaroni da „interis” direqtor- 

Ta sabWos Tavmjdomare alesandro antonelic 

iyvnen. swored iq gaakeTes Sokismomgvreli 

gancxadeba stadionis dangrevis 

Sesaxeb. „Zveli arena daingreva da im adgilze 

axali aSendeba. Cven erTad vmuSaobT”, 

_ Tqves maT. 

mokled, dangrevis iniciatori „milania”. 

amas klubis yofili fexburTelebic eTanxmebian. 

magaliTad, jenaro gatuzom Tqva, 

swored stadioni uSlis xels klubs progresSio: 

„san siro” Cvens gulebSia. masTan 

Cavlisas warsulis mogonebebi da emociebi 

geZaleba. is yovelTvis didebulad darCeba, 

magram klubis xelmZRvanelobas daveTanxmebi. 

saWiroa ganviTareba, raTa udides 

klubebs tol-sworad veTamaSoT”, _ ganacxada 

gatuzom. 

„milansa” da „inters” aRar surT, qalaqis 

merias ijara uxadon. maT damoukidebeli 

sarbieli undaT. amerikasac stumrobdnen 

da amosavlad axali arenisTvis amerikuli 

fexburTis gundis, „niu-iork jaianTsis” 

stadioni airCies, romelic superTanamedrovea. 

moZravi saxuraviTa da mindvriT. 

fexburTis garda uamravi RonisZiebis gamarTva 

SeiZleba da Zalian moxerxebulia fexburTelebisTvisac 

da mayureblisTvisac. 

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xSirad rodi momxdara bolo 

wlebSi, evroturnirebis pirveli 

etapi erTbaSad sam qarTul gunds 

gadaelaxos. gansakuTrebiT faseuli 

CempionTa ligaa da Tumc debiutantma 

„saburTalom” gvarianad 

gvanerviula, moldovuri 

„Serifis” barieri ori matCis jam- 

Si 3:2 daZlia. momdevno metoqe, 

zagrebis „dinamo”, favoriti kia, 

magram xorvatiaSi amJamad Sesvenebaa 

da aravin icis, rovor 

formaSi daxvdeba „saburTalos” 

metoqe. 

wilisyraSi gaumarTlaT da 

jamSi oTxive matCi moiges „dinamom” 

da „Cixuram” _ andoras „engordensa” 

da luqsemburgis „folas” 

CvenebTan Sansi ar hqoniaT. am 

kviraSi Tbiliselebi azerbaijanul 

„gabalasTan” Zveli angariSis 

gasworebas Seecdebian, saCxerlebs 

ki Sotlandiur „aberdinTan” uwevT 

Widili. 

mxolod quTaisis „torpedos” 

moecara xeli, rac, gundSi Seqmnili 

viTarebidan gamomdinare, 

gasaocari sulac ar iyo. 

uefas saklubo reitingSi Cvenma 

klubebma 1,250 qula ukve gamoimuSaves 

da winaswari varaudiT, 

ramdenime safexuriT davwinaurdebiT, 

rac imeds gvaZlevs vTqvaT, 

rom saqarTvelo evroturnirebze 

gaisadac oTxi gundiT wardgeba. 

oTxidan sami 

saukeTeso SoTa 

taSkentis „faxTaqoris“ qarTveli Tavkaci, SoTa arvelaZe, 

uzbekeTSi ivnisis saukeTeso mwvrTnelad daasaxeles. es bunebriv- 

icaa, radgan qarTvelis gundma wina TveSi 5-dan 5 matCi moigo. 3 

SexvedraSi arvelaZis Segirdebma 2:1 imarjves, erTxel 5:0 da erTxelac 

8:0. am droisTvis „faxTaqors” 35 qula aqvs da cxrilis saT- 

aveSia. meore adgilosan „lokomotivs” gundi 8 quliT uswrebs. 

rojeris 

sarekordo 

korida 

37 wlis rojer 

federers meqsikaSi 

arasodes uTamaSia, 

axl ki Sansi aqvs, 

erTbaSad sarekordo 

matCis monawile 

gaxdes. 

koridis arena 

„plasa meqsiko” mexikoSi 

mdebareobs 

da 41 200-kaciani 

tevadobiT msoflioSi 

udidesia. Tu 

rojeri stadions 

Seavsebs, CogburTis 

istoriaSi kidev er- 

Ti maCvenebliT Seva. 

Sexvedra 24 noembers 

Sedgeba, rojeris 

metoqe ki mogvianebiT 

dasaxeldeba. 

aqamde rekordi 

kim klaisterss da 

serena uiliamss ekuTvniT. 

2010 wels 

maT Sexvedras 35 

aTasma qomagma adevna 

Tvali. 

N25 (286) 23.07-5.08.2019 w. 

tokioSi niCbebi mousves 

amomavali mzis qveynis dedaqalaqSi 2020 wlis 

olimpiuri TamaSebisTvis, raion kasaiSi, saniCbosno 

slalomis pirveli centri gaixsna. droebiTi 

tribunebi 7 500 mayurebelzea gaTvlili da olimpiadis 

dasrulebis Semdeg demontaJi Cautardeba. 

„arxi sakmaod rTulia. zogan dinebis winaaRmdeg 

mosmaa saWiro. miuxedavad amisa, is idealuria 

asparezobaTa Casatareblad”, _ ganacxada erTadgilian 

kanoeSi rios 2016 wlis olimpiuri TamaSebis 

brinjaos medalosanma takuia hanedam, romelsac 

pirvels ergo slalomistTa trasis gamocdis 

pativi. 

saniCbosno slalomis centri erT-erTia im 8 

obieqts Soris, romelic sagangebod aigo tokios 

2020 wlis olimpiuri TamaSebisTvis. cota xnis win 

aseve eqsploataciaSi Sevida mSvildosanTa sarbieli 

iumenoSimas parkSi, saniCbosno arxi, sportuli 

centri „musaSino”, sadac umaspinZleben Sejibrebebs 

badmintonsa da farikaobaSi. 

rogor mougo de lixti iuvem barsas? 

holandiel mateis de lixts „barselona” siamovnebiT 

iyidda, magram is „iuventuss” darCa. ymawvili mcveli, 

romelic 12 agvistos 20 wlisa gaxdeba, bednieria da cxovrebiT 

tkbeba, magram ratom ver gadavida is „barselonaSi”, 

bevrs ukvirs, am holandiels xom swored kataloniur 

klubs ukavSirebdnen. 

iTqva, „barselonas” ar unda, rom iseTi xelfasebi ixados, 

rogorzec „iuventusi” de lixts dasTanxmda. superagenti 

mino raiola Tavisi klientisTvis weliwadSi 12 milion 

evros iTxovda, ris gadaxdazec kataloniurma klubma 

uari Tqva. raiolasTan molaparakeba ki Znelia. mas undoda, 

satransfero Tanxis msuye procentSi Camjdariyo, anu 

„barselonas” „aiaqsisTvis” gacilebiT meti gadaexda, vidre 

„aiaqsi” iTxovda, rac espaneTis Cempions ar epitnava. 

„barselonas” mwvrTnelTa nawilis azriT, de lixts 

jer kidev aqvs ramdenime aspeqti gasaumjobesebeli, ris 

gamoc misi SeZenis axireba saWiro ar iyo. frenki de iongis 

xaTriT de lixts „barsaSi” gadasvla rasakvirvelia 

undoda, magram kataloniuri klubi misTvis ocnebis sagani 

mainc ar gaxldaT. 

Sedegic Sesabamisia. 

39

CIAN MAGENTA YALLOW BLACK 

afiSa 

mkvdrebi aRar kvdebian 

amirani 

20:00 

kavea Tbilisi moli 

14:30; 21:45 

kavea isT foinTi 

22:00 

aladini 

amirani 

14:30 

kavea galeria 

12:00; 14:15; 17:00 


12:00 


11:45; 14:30; 16:45; 17:15; 19:30 

tkivili da dideba 


14:00 

beilis Tavgadasavali 

amirani 

12:00; 14:30 


12:00; 17:15 


11:45 

adamianebi SavebSi 


22:00 

aida 

amirani 

19:30 

ana 

amirani 

22:10 

kavea galeria 

14:15; 19:30; 22:15 


16:45; 19:30 


16:45; 19:30; 22:15 


yovelkvireuli gazeTi gamodis kviraSi 

erTxel, samSabaTobiT da vrceldeba 

saqarTvelos mTel teritoriaze 

yovelkvireuli 

gamodis samSabaTobiT fasi 2 lari 

pirveli gverdi: 

1 sm 2 _ 15 lari, maqsimaluri SekveTa 300 sm 2 ; 

meore-mesame gverdebi: 

1 sm 2 _ 3 lari; 

Sida gverdebi: 

1 sm 2 _ 1 lari; 

bolos wina gverdi: 

1sm 2 _2 lari; 

bolo gverdi: 

1sm 2 _ 3 lari, 

maqsimaluri SekveTa _ mTeli gverdi; 

mTliani gverdis saerTo farTobia _ 

1000 sm 2; 

reklama CanarTis saxiT: 

A3 3 formatis erT nomerSi ganTavseba _ 500 lari; 

A4 4 formatis erT nomerSi ganTavseba _ 300 lari; 

mis.: gudauris 7; 599 19 19 10 (Savlego cixelaSvili) 

afiSa 

paraziti 

amirani 

17:00 

araswori wyvili 

kavea galeria 

12:15; 16:30; 20:00; 22:10 


22:15 


16:30; 19:20; 21:45 

saTamaSoebis istoria 4 

amirani 

11:45; 17:15 

kavea galeria 

13:15; 15:30; 17:00; 17:45 


14:45; 17:00 


12:00; 12:15; 14:15; 14:30; 19:45 

anabelis wyevla 3 

kavea galeria 

19:45 


19:30; 22:00 


22:15 

1 aSS dolari 

2.8831 

1 evro 

3.2357 

1 girvanqa sterlingi 

3.5955 

1 Sveicaruli franki 

2.9380 

100 rusuli rubli 

4.5779 

amindi 

samSabaTi 

oTxSabaTi 

xuTSabaTi 

paraskevi 

SabaTi 

kvira 

orSabaTi 

Tbilisi 

30-32 0 

32-34 0 

30-32 0 

28-30 0 

27-30 0 

28-31 0 

29-30 0 

quTaisi 

25-28 0 

26-29 0 

23-25 0 

26-28 0 

24-27 0 

26-29 0 

28-29 0 

baTumi 

24-26 0 

25-28 0 

24-26 0 

25-26 0 

26-28 0 

25-28 0 

26-27 0 

zugdidi 

25-27 0 

26-27 0 

23-25 0 

26-27 0 

25-27 0 

26-29 0 

27-28 0 

gori 

26-28 0 

27-29 0 

26-28 0 

27-30 0 

23-25 0 

24-26 0 

25-27 0 

Telavi 

33-35 0 

34-36 0 

32-33 0 

29-31 0 

25-27 0 

29-31 0 

30-32 0 

foTi 

26-28 0 

27-29 0 

25-28 0 

26-28 0 

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saredaqcio kolegia 

yvela ufleba daculia; 

`qronika+~-Si gamoqveynebuli 

masalebis nebismieri saxiT 

gamoyeneba da gavrceleba 

redaqciasTan SeuTanxmeblad 

akrZalulia! 

gazeTSi R niSniT gamoqveynebul 

masalebs aqvT sareklamo 

xasiaTi; maTSi gamoxatuli pozicia 

SeiZleba ar daemTxves 

redaqciis Sexedulebas. 

mTavari redaqtori eliso kilaZe (599 17 12 12) 

rostiaSvili Tamar 577 10 07 06 

SatakiSvili rezo 597 94 42 50 

mosiaSvili maka 599 97 25 55 

injgia nene 591 71 39 98 

sakaruli giorgi 555 42 42 90 

qemokliZe levan 593 16 01 40 

vaSaymaZe xviCa 599 22 82 89 

laRaZe Sorena 557 56 23 66 

deviZe daviT 

stilisti rusudan quTaTelaZe; 

redaqciis misamarTi: 

Tbilisi, gudauris N3, 

pirveli sarTuli, bina 4; 

tel.: 294 69 77; 

sareklamo ganyofileba, 

gavrcelebis samsaxuri 

Savlego cixelaSvili 599 19 19 10 

gazeTi ibeWdeba stambaSi `tori~ 

ISSN 2346-8025 

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