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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com `meamayeba, rom Cemi qveynis germaniaSi moRvawe cnobili giorgi sakaruli qarTveli mevioline, bela berke- 555 42 42 90 mer-maxaraZe da misi meuRle, germaneli kompozitori, uve berkemeri, saqarTveloSia. „qronika+~ musikosebs ojaxSi estumra da qarTvelebs monatrebuli guruli qalbatoni siyvaruliT gagvimaspinZlda. bela maxaraZe ozurgeTelia, natanebidan. musika pianistma dedam Seayvara da ambobs, rom simReris niWic dedisgan gamoyva. xuTi wlis asakSi daiwyo fortepianoze dakvra, odnav mogvi- anebiT ki violinozec Seiyvanes da cxra wlis asakSi ukve baTumis simfoniur da kamerul orkestr- Tan erTad ukravda. konservatoriaSi liana isaka- Zem maleve SeamCnia niWieri mevioline, misi pirveli stipendian- tic swored bela gaxda da kon- certebSic xSirad monawileobda. belam momavali meuRle, uve berkemeri, liana iasakaZisgan gaicno, is saqarTveloSi special- uri mowveviT imyofeboda. ambobs, rom erTmaneTi erTi naxviT Seuy- vardaT. baTumis zaqaria faliaSvilis saxelobis saxelmwifo konservatoriis darbazSi, 30 wlis Semdeg, bela berkemer-maxaraZe axla ukve meuRlesTan erTad daukravs. bela berkemer-maxaraZe: _ saqarTvelo CemTvis yvelaferia. Cemi guli, suli, cxovreba mxolod es qveyanaa, romelic sul menatreba. bednieri var, rom Cemi meuRlisTvis saqarTvelo Zalian Zvirfasia. nomer pirveli dasasvenebeli adgilia da meamayeba, rom Cems meuRlesa da ojaxis yvela wevrs saqarTvelo sigiJemde uyvars. Cveni amJamindeli viziti koncerts ukavSirdeba, romelic ba- Tumis konservatoriis darbazSi gaimarTeba. es adgili CemTvis gansakuTrebul mogonebebTan da emociebTan asocirdeba, radgan am scenaze avidgi fexi da 9 wlis asak- Si orkestrTan erTad davukari. 30 wlis Semdeg pirvelad vukrav ba- Tumis konservatoriis scenaze. am zafxuls aq gavatarebT da mere isev wavalT germaniaSi. _ saqarTveloSi Camosvla xSir- ad giwevT? _ miuxedavad imisa, rom sakmaod xSirad Camovdivar xolme, jer Camosuli ar var, rom ukve mivtiri saqarTvelos. iseTi STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom is eqvsi kvira CemTvis TiTqos erTi dRea. uzomod Seyvarebuli var saqarTveloze. _ mogviyeviT iqaur cxovreba- ze. mkiTxvelisTvis rom ufro gasagebi iyos, ras akeTebT germa- niaSi, sad moRvaweobT? _ garda imisa, rom me da Cemi meuRle solokoncertebs erTad vmarTavT evropis sxvadasxva qalaqSi, me vmuSaob germaniaSi sajaro skolaSi musikis pedagogad, Cemi meuRle gimnaziaSi geografias aswavlis, aseve hyavs gundi da orkestri, kerZo moswavleebic myavs da Cems xalxs socialuri qselidan veferebi. _ Tqveni feisbuqidan Tu vimsjelebT, Zalian bevri Tayvanism- cemeli gyavT. _ diax, namdvilad. xSirad mifiqria, rom aqamde rogor varsebobdi socialuri qselis gareSe. imdeni adamiani gavicani, rom maTi saxiT uamravi megobari SeviZine. _ rogorc vici, saqarTveloSi roca CamodixarT, Tayvanismcem- lebTan patar-patara Sekrebebsac akeTebT xolme. es Tqveni sur- viliT xdeba? _ Sekrebebsac vakeTeb da miwveven kidec. wina Camosvlaze Tbilisis konservatoriaSi mqonda koncerti da iseTi ambavi iyo, rom koncerti koncertiT gagrZelda _ saCuqrebis gadmocema, fotoebis gadaReba, siyvaruli, Caxuteba da zRva emocia. gavgiJdi, iseTi ambavi iyo. maxsovs, rodesac qalbaton liana isakaZis studenti viyavi, masze vabodebdi da im periodSi Zalian rTulad uSvebdnen vinmes warmatebuli koncertis misalocad kulisebSi, Semdeg ukve is Cemi mejvare gaxda da Zalian davaxlovdiT, magram iqidan tkivili gamomyva, rom ar mqonda masTan misvlis saSualeba, gulSi Camekra. axla sul vcdilob, SesaZlebeli gavxado CemTan mosvla da ocneba davukmayofilo. me minda, rom yvelasTvis misaRwevi gavxde da amitom TiToeul adamians vikrav gul- Si. aravis minda, rom Cemi Tavi davamadlo. yvela dediSobila movdivarT amqveynad da aravis araferi migvaqvs imqveynad, arc Cveni diplomi, wodeba da qoneba. _ qalbatono bela, Zalian bevr qveyanaSi gaqvT koncertebi. ra gansxvavebaa ucxoel da qarTvel msmenels Soris? _ iseTi koncertebi Cagvitarebia, rom wamoZaxilebi da ovacia yovelTvis ismis xolme, magram germaniaSi TviTon koncertis msvlelobisas buzis gafrenis xmac ki ar ismis. vin gabedavs mobiluris amoRebas da Sig Zromials, kulturaa ufro sxvanairi, Tumca ase- Ti ram arc aq xdeba Cems koncertebze. viRacis CamiCumis xma Tu gavige, SemiZlia gavCerde, Sevxedo mas `iseTi koncertebi Cagvitarebia, rom wamoZaxilebi da ovacia yovelTvis ismis xolme, magram germaniaSi TviTon koncertis msvlelobisas buzis gafrenis xmac ki ar ismis. vin gabedavs mobiluris amoRebas da Sig Zromials, kulturaa ufro sxvanairi, Tumca aseTi ram arc aq xdeba Cems koncertebze. viRacis CamiCumis xma Tu gavige, SemiZlia gavCerde, Sevxedo mas da gavagrZelo dakvra. aravis mivcem uflebas, Cems koncertze vinme sxva ramiT iyos dakavebuli~ `germanel msmenels qarTuli musika gansakuTrebiT uyvars da moswons~ da gavagrZelo dakvra. aravis mivcem uflebas, Cems koncertze vinme sxva ramiT iyos dakavebuli. Zalian didi pauzis Semdeg guriaSi, Cems sofelSi Cavatare klasikuri musikis saRamo da mcdeloba iyo, rom biWebi gadioden da gamodiodnen. mere maT vuTxari, _ SegiZliaT dabrZandeT an gabrZandeT-meTqi, pirdapir vuTxari da amis Semdeg CamiCumi ar ismoda koncertze. vfiqrob, Tuki adamians Tavxedobis uflebas miscem, igi aucileblad iqneba Tavxedi. magaliTad, germaniaSi rodesac tardeba salonuri stilis saRamoebi, magidebi dgas, sadac dalagebulia sasmeli, magram rac ar unda swyurodeT, nawarmoebis Sesrulebis dros arc ki moafiqrdebaT, rom sasmisi aiRon da dalion. am mxriv Zalian didi gansxvavebaa Cvensa da germanel msmenels Soris. arafriT ar Sei- Zleba koncertze dagvianeba, rogorc ki kari ixureba, aRaravin SemogiSvebs darbazSi. _ es iqidan gamomdinarec xom ar xdeba, rom germanelebi gan- sakuTrebuli punqtualurobiT gamoirCevian da garda amisa, klasikur musikas bevri mimdevari hyavs iq, vidre saqarTveloSi. asea? _ germanelebi, ra Tqma unda, didi punqtualurobiT gamoirCevian, magram sxva mxriv SemiZlia Tamamad giTxraT, rom aq Zalian didi kulturaa, ubralod, xalxs ar SeuZlia xSirad iaros klasikuri musikis saRamoebze. adre xSirad davdiodiT koncertebze, dRes dro Seicvala, xalxi sxva yofiTi problemebiT aris dakavebuli da gadarTulia, rom saWmlis fuli moipovos, Torem yvelas uyvars Teatri, opera, klasika, garToba, magram yvelaferi finansebzea damokidebuli. Tbilisi am mxriv mainc duRs, rasac ver vityvi regionebze. germania mainc didi qveyanaa, sadac bevri ramis gakeTebac SegiZlia, xalxi koncertebze dadis, aqvs amis SesaZlebloba da a. S. _ Tqvens meuRleze ras gvetyviT. guruli qalbatoni brZandeb- iT, kamaTi xSirad raze giwevT xolme? _ rodesac vmecadineobT, mxolod maSin mogvdis kamaTi da notebi dafrinavs xolme. sxva mxriv ki Cemi qmrisnairi marTla unda inatros nebismierma qalbatonma, radgan, rogorc ityvian, sanTliT saZebari adamiania. marTla Zalian gamimarTla, xels miwyobs yvelaferSi, sul cdilobs, riT masiamovnos da rac yvelaze mTavaria, Zalian vuyvarvar da saqarTveloze giJdeba. dedaCemi metyvis xolme, rom Senze meti qarTveliao. _ qarTulad saubrobs? _ mSvenivrad. yvelafers gebu- 36 36 N25 (286) 23.07-5.08.2019 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com popularizaciaSi wvlili Semaqvs~ lobs, marTalia, gramatikulad da gamarTulad ver saubrobs, magram yvelafers gelaparakeba. _ Tqveni qaliSvilebic klasikuri musikis mimdevrebi arian da xSirad koncertebze TqvenTan erTad gamodian. es maTi arCevani iyo, Tu mSoblebis zegavlenis qveS moeqcnen? _ jer kidev mucelSi iyvnen, rom sul esmodaT klasikuri musika, Tu rogor mecadineobda deda saaTobiT, koncertebze rogor gamodioda, rogor Relavda, anu CemTan erTad gaiares es gza muclidanve. sxvanairad verc ki warmoudgeniaT. izrdebian ojaxSi, sadac musikiT cocxloben. ninas (ufrosi qaliSvili) ukve Zalian didi warmatebebi aqvs, Tumca Tavidan wvalobda. ambobda kidec, ar minda musikosi gamovideo da rodesac vuTxariT, dro movida, Tvi- Ton, damoukideblad aerCia profesia, swored maSin mixvda, rom musika mTeli misi cxovreba iyo. _ ra profesia undoda, rom aerCia? _ TviTonac ar icoda, ubralod, musikaSi mecadineoba ezareboda. _ klasikuri musikis koncertebze, ZiriTadad, ufrosi Taobis warmomadgenlebi dadian xolme, rasac ver vityviT Tqvenze, radgan bevri axalgazrda SeiniSneba Tqvens koncertebze. _ me, upirveles yovlisa, var klasikosi, magram mivxvdi, rom Tu ginda msmenels uyvarde da moizido, yvelas unda moergo, anu ar gqondes mxolod erTi mimarTuleba, unda iyo mravalferovani. miuzikli unda Seasrulo, unda imRero kidec, rom es mravalferovani adamianebi movidnen SenTan, imitom rom klasikur musikas Zalian cota msmeneli hyavs, samwuxarod. ukve tendenciaa imisa, rom klasikuri musikis saRamoebze 50 wlis qvemoT adamiani aRar modis koncertze, rac Zalian samwuxaroa. swored amitom vcdilob, rom Cemi koncertebi iyos Zalian mravalferovani da imitomac dadian axalgazrdebi, studentebi da bavSvebi. `rodesac vmecadineobT, mxolod maSin mogvdis kamaTi da notebi dafrinavs xolme. sxva mxriv ki Cemi qmrisnairi marTla unda inatros nebismierma qalbatonma, radgan, rogorc ityvian, sanTliT saZebari adamiania. marTla Zalian gamimarTla, xels miwyobs yvelaferSi, sul cdilobs, riT masiamovnos da rac yvelaze mTavaria, Zalian vuyvarvar da saqarTveloze giJdeba. dedaCemi metyvis xolme, rom Senze meti qarTveliao~ Cems koncertze 5 wlis bavSvic yofila. _ garda imisa, rom mevioline xarT da klasikur nawarmoebebs asrulebT, aseve mReriT araCveu- lebrivad. gansakuTrebuli xmis tembri gaqvT. imaSic dameTanxme- biT, rom bevrs, SesaZloa, smena hqondes, magram ver mRerodes an ara. simReris niWi visgan gamogy- vaT? _ dedaCemi musikosi gaxlavT, pianisti da dedisgan gamomyva es niWic, Tumca biZaCemi, kote maxaraZe, sul meubneboda, maxaraZeebis Sen araferi gaqvso, radgan me piradad spilom damabija yurze fexio. bavSvobaSi musikalur skolaSi damayenebdnen skamze da mam- Rerebdnen xolme. 5 wlidan ukve fortepianoze vukrav, araCveulebrivi pedagogi myavda da sofel natanebSi baTumidan Camodioda xolme. dRemde baTumis konservatoriis koncertmaisteria da SemiZlia vTqva, rom Zalian gamimarTla. man Semayvara violino. _ kote maxaraZe Tqveni biZa iyo, masTan, albaT, bevri mogone- ba gakavSirebT. _ Cems bavSvobaSi kote yovel zafxuls Camodioda CvenTan, sofelSi, Cven ki masTan TbilisSi CavdiodiT. mogvianebiT ki, rodesac niWierTa aTwledSi da Semdeg konservatoriaSi gavagrZele swavla, kotesTan vcxovrobdi. mis samuSao oTaxSi viZinebdi... kaxi kavsaZe, givi berikaSvili, nani bregvaZe... vin aRar modioda iq. sofikos, mogexsenebaT, uyvarda xelgaSlili cxovreba, xSirad marTavda saRamoebs, sadac cnobil qarTvelebTan erTad mec vukravdi xolme. maTgan gavTxovdi maT dapati- Jes megobrebi da patara qorwilic gadamixades. biZaCemsa da sofikos Zalian uyvardaT uve da did pativs scemdnen mas. kote xSirad meubneboda, _ erTi gamagebina, am soflelma, gawripulma gogom, ase- Ti bumberazi pirovneba rogor moxibleo. _ germaniaSi ramdenad didi moTxovnaa qarTul simRerebze? mainteresebs, Tu mReriT xolme iq qarTulad? _ ra Tqma unda. Cemi eqimi germaniaSi koncertis Semdeg movida da cxvirsaxoci maCvena, rom itira. imxela emocias vaCveneb mayurebels, rom TiTqos grZnoben TiToeul sityvas. yoveli koncertis Semdeg vmReri simReras „menatrebi”, romelsac Tamuna amonaSvili asrulebda, Tumca me Cems versias vTavazob mayurebels da saqarTvelos vuZRvni xolme. iseTi amociebiT xvdebian, rom sul Jruanteli uvliT. _ dabolos, ar SemiZlia ar gkiTxoT saqarTveloSi mimdinare movlenebze. TqvenTvis, rogorc qarTvelisTvis, ra aris is, rac xdeba dRes? albaT, Tqveni meuR- lec aqtiurad adevnebs Tvals aq mimdinare procesebs. ras ambobs, rogoria ucxo qveynidan danaxuli saqarTvelo? _ Cemi meuRlis TvaliT danaxuli saqarTvelo sruliad normaluria, is fiqrobs, rom es demokratiaa da asec unda xdebodes qveynis ganviTareba. ubralod, Cveni temperamentidan gamomdinare Zalian eSinia, rom zedmetSi ar gadavidnen. Zalian frTxilad unda viyoT, rom mtrebi ar gavaxaroT da samoqalaqo omi ar daiwyos. Tuki es daiwyeba, amiT, upirveles yovlisa, Cveni mtrebi isargebleben. qarTvelebma erTmaneTis gatana unda viswavloT. aqciebs rac Seexeba, es demokratiuli procesia. ase xdeba yvela normalur qveyanaSi, magram Zalian frTxilad unda iyoTo. Cemi TvaliT danaxuli saqarTvelo mtkiva. rodesc vxedav, Tu rogor daiyo da gaixliCa qveyana , guli mtkiva. sxvadasxva azris gamo sakuTari ojaxis wevrebi aRar indoben erTmaneTs da ar SeiZleba ase. Cven erTmane- Tis mosmena, azris dafaseba da pativiscema unda viswavloT. ar var valdebuli, Seni azriT vicxovro, magram SemiZlia, Sens azrs pativi vce. Cemi da Cemi meuRlisTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania is saqme, rasac vemsaxurebiT, imitom rom rodesac koncertebs vatarebT, Cveni naxevari programa qarTul, kavkasiur musikas eZRvneba. germanel msmenels qarTuli musika gansakuTrebiT uyvars da moswons, isini saqar- Tveloze warmodgenas iqmnian da meamayeba, rom Cemi qveynis popularizaciaSi am kuTxiT didi wvlili Semaqvs. giorgi gziriSvili: `aqcia, sadac politikosi ar dgas, rutinaSi gasaxvevad aris ganwiruli~ 23-e gverdidan _ ra Tqma unda, daazarala. aqcia, sadac politikosi ar dgas, rutinaSi gasaxvevad aris ganwiruli. xelisuflebis specsamsaxurebma martivad moaxerxes aqciis diskreditacia. amitomac yvela saprotesto aqciis dros saWiroa politiosebis xedva da gamocdileba. 20 ivnisis aqciebzec gaxsovT, sanam politikosebi gamodiodnen, ramdenad didi iyo saprotesto muxti, axlandelTan SedarebiT. yvelaze didi Secdoma, rac Sei- Zleba dauSvas aqciis organizatorma, romelsac politikuri moTxovnebi aqvs, aris is, rom politikosebi ar miuSvas saorganizacio nawilSi an, zogadad, aqciaze. _ am aqciebis Sedegad kidev erTxel dadasturda, rom qarTuli politikuri speqtri moiTxovs ganaxlebas, rom sazogadoebas sWirdeba axali saxeebi politika- Si, aqedan gamomdinare, sul ufro xSirad gamoTqvamen varauds imis Sesaxeb, rom 2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebze politikuri partiebi am dakveTas gaiTval- iswineben. rogor fiqrobT, iqneba Tu ara gardamtexi 2020 weli politikaSi axali saxeebis Semosvlis TvalsazrisiT? _ gaaCnia, ras davarqmevT axal saxes. magaliTad, „qarTul ocnebas” hyavs adamianebi, romlebsac axal saxeebs eZaxian, Tumca isini namdvilad ar arian axali saxeebi, isini arian adamianebi, romlebic garkveuli Tanamdebobis an finansuri sargeblis sanacvlod gaakeTeben yvelafers. Cemi azriT, Tavad politikurma partiebma unda Ciaxedon sakuTar TavSi da mixvdnen imas, rom Zveli dro aRar aris, rom iseTi adamianebis dro wavida, romlebic martivad iyidebian. Cvens Taobas yvelaferi Zalian kargad axsovs da realobasac xedavs, Tu romelime politikosi raime Secdomas uSvebs, es karieris bolomde mihyveba. Cveni Taoba imdenad informirebulia, rom yvelafris saqmis kursSia. amitomac politikurma partiebma TavianT resursSi unda moiZion adamianebi, romlebsac aqvT kargi reputacia, `kidev erTxel aRvniSnav: `rusTavi 2~ iyo brendi da amitomac Canda dasavleTisTvis ase mkafiod, daskvnebic Sesabamisi hqondaT. rodesac Seiqmneba axali arxi, aseTi gavlena ar eqneba da verc dasavleTSi gaigeben, rom raime opoziciuri arxi arsebobs~ arian profesionalebi im saqmeSi, rac unda akeTon da aseve arian sandoebi. xSiri Sexeba maqvs sxvadaxva politikuri partiis axalgazrduli organizaciis warmomadgenlebTan da SemiZlia giTxraT, rom aseTi axalgazrdebi politikur partiebSi, ase Tu ise, arian. Zalian didi Secdoma iqneba politikuri partiebis mxridan, Tu isini 2020 wlisTvis axalgazrdebs ar moiZieben, radgan es qveyanas Zalian sWirdeba. ganaxlebul saxeebTan erTad aucilebelia arsebuli politikosebis gamocdilebac. sazogadoebis moTxovnaa, rom Tundac televizoris yurebisas usminon axal saxeebs, axalgazrda politikosebs, imitom, rom ukve Zveli saxeebi Zalian bevr cud ramesTan asocirdeba da imedi maqvs, 2020 wels parlamentSi bevri gulanTebuli axalgazrda iqneba, romelsac marTla surs qveynis sakeTildReod ramis gakeTeba. aseT SemTxvevaSi aucileblad vigrZnobT gansxvavebas arsebul parlamentsa da im parlaments Soris, sadac Tavisuflad da progresulad moazrovne axalgazrdebi iqnebian. N25 (286) 23.07-5.08.2019 w. 37
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