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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com naxsenebia Tu ara dvaliSvilis „girCi” erovnuli bankis sacav- giorgi abaSiZe Si daculi bankis yofili prezidentis, demur dvaliSvilis Canaw- erebis gasajaroebas iTxovs! es moTxovna ki „girCs” mas Semdeg gauCnda, rac partiis Tavmjdomaris, iago xviCias gadacema „procesSi” erovnuli bankis yofilma prezidentma, amJamad „nacionaluri moZraobis” saparlamento fraqciis Tavmjdomare roman gociriZem Tqva, rom dvaliSvilis Canawerebi nanaxi aqvs. nis moqalaqeebma gaigon simarTle!” _ naTqvamia iago xviCias gancxadebaSi, romelic man erovnul banks gaugzavna. qveynis mTavarma safinanso institutma xviCias „dvaliSvilis Canawerebis” arseboba daudastura, Tumca acnoba, rom es Canawerebi saxelmwifo saidumlos Seicavs da amitom sasamarTlos nebarTvis gasagebia, rom es dokumentacia arsebobs da radgan gavige, es Canawerebi sad inaxeba, erovnul banksac amitom mivmarTe. _ dvaliSvilis TviTmkvlelo- bas, Tavis droze, Zalian didi skandali moyva. am tragediidan oc welze meti gavida da erovnul banks saWirod rom CaeTvala, dvaliSvilis Canawerebs aqamde, _ mokled, im maqinaciebma, romlebic SesaZloa, dvaliSvilis dokumentebSi iyos asaxuli, saboloo jamSi, kuponis kursis katastrofuli vardna gamoiwvia. es ki qveynis ekonomikisTvis bevri, maT Soris, anabrebis mimarTulebiTac, damangreveli iyo. amitom, sainteresoa, sazogadoebam icodes, yvelaferi es vis saxelsa da gvars „gacnobebT, rom Cemi saavtoro gadacema „procesis” 31 agvistos gamoSvebaSi saqarTvelos parlamentis amJamindelma wevrma da saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis yofilma prezidentma, b-nma roman gociriZem, Semdegi ganacxada: saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis sacav- Si inaxeba bankis yofili prezidentis, b-ni demur dvaliSvilis Canawerebi, sadac detalurad aris aRricxuli, visze da ra odenobebiT gaicemoda maSindel prezident, b- n eduard SevardnaZis miTiTebiT sesxebi. b-ni romanis gancxadebiT, mas nanaxi aqvs es Canawerebi, rodesac is iyo erovnuli bankis prezidenti da is bankis specialur sacavSi swored misi miTiTebiT Seinaxes. msurs SegaxsenoT Semdegi garemoebebi: 1. b-ni demur dvaliSvili iyo prezident eduard SevardnaZesTan daaxloebuli piri, igi ikavebda erovnuli bankis prezidentis Tanamdebobas da, Sesabamisad, pasuxismgebeli iyo qveynis fulad-sakredito politikaze 1992 wlis noembridan 1993 wlis noembramde; 2. 1993 wlis 5 aprils gamovida kuponi, xolo 1993 wlis 20 agvistodan kuponi gamocxadda erTaderT sagadamxdelo saSualebad qveynis masStabiT. kuponis hiperinflaciam, praqtikulad, Ratakad aqcia saqarTvelos mosaxleoba; 3. 1992 wels saqarTveloSi daiwyo pirveli privatizaciis procesi, romlis Sedegadac sabWoTa saqarTvelos sakuTrebaSi arsebuli aqtivebis mniSvnelovani nawili aRmoCnda erTeuli korumpirebuli adamianebis xelSi. arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi, rom am aqtivebis xelSi Cagdeba xdeboda saqarTvelos prezidentis miTiTebiT, erovnuli bankidan gatanili sesxebiT, romelTa didi nawili ukan ar dabrunebula, an Canacvlda erovnuli bankis mier infilirebuli da gaufasurebuli kuponebiT; 4. b-ni demur dvaliSvilis prezidentobas emTxveva sabWoTa anabrebis gaufasurebis periodi. saqarTvelos prezidentis 2002 wlis 20 martis gankargulebis safuZvelze Seqmnili sabWoTa anabrebis gaufasurebis mizezebis Semswavleli komisiis angariSiT, romelic inaxeba komisiis Tavmjdomaris, b-ni elguja meqvabiSvilis pirad arqivSi, sab- WoTa anabrebis gaufasureba dakav- Sirebulia 90-iani wlebis pirvel naxevarSi ganviTarebul hiperinflaciur procesebTan. xolo saqarTvelos parlamentis biuros 2004 wlis 15 noembris #34 dadgenilebiT Seqmnili 1992-1993 wleb- Si saqarTvelos moqalaqeebis anabrebis gaufasurebis mizezebis Semswavleli saparlamento momxsenebelTa jgufis mier Sedgenili daskvniT _ erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani faqtori da, amave dros, mTavari mizezi anabrebis gaufasurebisa iyo saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis fulad-sakredito politika; ratom dainteresda `girCi~ dvaliSvilis saqmiT da ratom ar unda iago xviCias vano zardiaSvilze saubari? 5. b-nma demur dvaliSvilma sicocxle TviTmkvlelobiT daasrula 1994 wlis 9 seqtembers. aRniSnuli garemoebebis gaTvaliswinebiT, erovnuli bankis sacavSi arsebuli bankis yofili prezidentis, b-ni dvaliSvilis Canawerebi SesaZloa Seicavdes umniSvnelovanes informacias imis Taobaze Tu: a) rogor gawires kuponis gaufasurebiT qveynis mosaxleoba SimSilisTvis?! b) rogor moaxerxa erTi muWa adamianebis jgufma viTom samar- Tliani privatizaciis gziT uzarmazari qonebis xelSi Cagdeba?! g) rogor da sad gaqra aq mcxovrebi adamianebis mier wlebis ganmavlobaSi sabWoTa anabrebis saxiT nakeTebi danazogi? politikuri gaerTianeba „gir- Ci” miiCnevs, rom saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs ufleba aqvT, srulad flobdnen informacias zemoT aRniSnul movlenebTan dakavSirebiT, romelmac, ruseTis samxedro agresiasTan da Tbilisis samoqalaqo omTan erTad, 90-iani wlebis dasawyisSi, praqtikulad, gaanadgura es qveyana. metic, Cveni varaudiT, aseTi mniSvnelobis Canawerebis gasajaroebis nabiji ar gadadga arc erTma xelisuflebam, radgan saqarTvelos damoukideblobis pirvel wlebSi usamarTlod gamdidrebuli adamianebi, erTi mxriv, yovelTvis sargeblobdnen da dRemde sargebloben xelisuflebebTan siaxloviT, xolo, meore mxriv, warmoadgendnen da dResac warmoadgenen am xelisuflebebisTvis Zalauflebis mopovebisa da Semdeg SenarCunebis finansur sayrdens. „girCi” iTxovs erovnuli bankis sacavSi daculi zemoT aRniSnuli Canawerebis srulad gasajaroebas! droa, am qvey- gareSe ver gascems. mokled, ratom dainteresda „girCi” 25 wlis winandeli ambiT? _ „qronika+~ iago xviCias esaubra: _ iago, rogorc vici, arcTu didi xnis win erovnul banks erovnuli bankis yofili prezidentis, demur dvaliSvilis arqivis gasajarovebis TxovniT mi- marTeT. _ diax. _ am sakiTxze, maincdamainc erovnul banks ratom mimarTeT da ara _ mTavar sagamoZiebo uw- yebas? _ Cems gadacema „procesSi” roman gociriZem Tqva, roca erovnuli bankis prezidenti viyavi, bankis sacavSi dvaliSvilis Canawerebi vnaxe da arqivSi Sevanaxineo. ar vici, vinmem gamoiZia Tu ara, magram anu Tqven gareSec gamoaqveynebda. amitom Tu es Tema gainteresebT, upriani ar iqneboda, sagamoZiebo uwyebisTvis migemarTaT? _ ar vici, im dokumentebSi ra weria da, rogorc giTxariT, isic ar vici, saerTod gamoZiebulia Tu ara. amas garda, wesiT, sagamoZiebo uwyebamac unda icodes, rom es dokumentebi erovnul bankSi inaxeba. Sesabamisad, Tu gamosaZiebeli iyo, aqamde gamoiZiebda. Cven, ubralod, amis gasajaroeba gvainteresebs, Torem imas ki ar vambobT, rom am saqmeze, apriori, vinme dasaWeria! _ am dokumentaciis gasajaroebis mizani ra aris? _ Cveni politikuri warsuli Tavidan bolomde Cvens ekonomikas ukavSirdeba. _ diax, asea. `vano zardiaSvils piradad vicnob da urTierToba axla ar dagviwyia. amitom, zogadad, vityvi: is, rac eka beseliam gaakeTa, politikuri aqtia. es aqti radikaluri, magram, Cemi azriT, swori iyo!~ `mjera, rom adamiani gonieri arsebaa da sakuTari istoriidan swavlobs. amitom araferi unda davmaloT. simarTlis damalvas kargi Sedegi arasodes hqonia. momxre var, rom Cvens warsulze simarTle vicodeT! rogor SeiZleba, politikaSi iyo da uaxlesi warsuli ar gainteresebdes?~ ukavSirdeba. zogadad, Cemi gadacema saqarTvelos istoriis uaxles warsuls exeba. es Tema ki imis TvalsaCino magaliTia, Tu ra moxda uaxles warsulSi ekonomikuri kuTxiT. _ amaSi geTanxmebiT, magram iago, imis albaTobas, gana, ar uSvebT, rom dvaliSvilis Canawerebis gamoqveynebas sazogadoebaSi SesaZloa, axali dapirispire- ba moyves? aqve ar dagaviwydeT, rom mSier mosaxleobas isini ar uyvars, romlebic swored 90-ian wlebSi gamdidrdnen, anu xalxi darwmunebulia, rom am subieqteb- ma fuli sakuTari SromiT ki ar iSoves, aramed is simdidre da dovlaTi miiTvises, rasac xalxi sabWoTa kavSiris dros sakuTari SromiT qmnida. _ iciT, ra aris? _ adamianis uflebaa, unda Tu ara, rom simar- Tle icodes. mjera, rom adamiani gonieri arsebaa da sakuTari istoriidan swavlobs. amitom araferi unda davmaloT. simarTlis damalvas kargi Sedegi arasodes hqonia. momxre var, rom Cvens warsulze simarTle vicodeT! rogor SeiZleba, politikaSi iyo da uaxlesi warsuli ar gainteresebdes? _ ki batono, Tu gvinda, sa- marTliani saxelmwifo avaSenoT, maSin istoriuli samarTlianobis aRdgena istoriuli samarTlia- nobis aRdgeniT unda daviwyoT, magram SegaxsenebT, rom magali- Tad, mamuka xazaraZem biznessaqmi- anoba swored im dros daiwyo, roca dvaliSvilma Tavi moikla. mokled, SesaZloa, vinmem CaTva- los, rom Tqveni iniciativiT, pirdapir Tu iribad, xazaraZes „urtyamT”. _ simarTle giTxraT, arc mifiqria, rom im CanawerebSi Sesa- 4 N30 (291) 1.10-07.10.2019 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com `Sav siaSi~ mamuka xazaraZe? Zloa, xazaraZeze iyos saubari. _ ratom ar gifiqriaT? _ xazaraZis bizneswarsulze sxva istoria vici da sxva versiis mjera, Tumca Tu am siaSi iqneba, mjera, xazaraZes axsnac moeZebneba. zogadad, rogorc giTxariT, Cven, apriori, ar vambobT, rom yvela, vinc e. w. dvaliSvilis siaSia, damnaSavea. TiToeul maTgans Tavisi axsna eqneba da aqedan gamomdinare, sazogadoebisTvis, maT Soris, CemTvisac, bevri ram damajerebeli gaxdeba. _ sxvaTa Soris, erTaderTi, viszec viciT, rom 90-ian wlebSi saxelmwifosgan sesxi aiRo da ar daabruna, Temur Wyoniaa. yovel SemTxvevaSi, am Temaze araerTi Jurnalisturi gamoZieba Catare- bula. iago, Tqveni varaudiT, „dval aliSvilis siaSi” iqneba Tu ara vano CxartiSvili, romelic sab- WoTa anabrebis miTvisebasTan aso- cirdeba? _ iciT, ra aris? _ roca am Temaze muSaoba daviwye, mivxvdi, rom yvelaferze unda mefiqra, anu imis Tqma minda, rom konkretul adamianebze ar vfiqrob da Seguebuli var, rom yvela SeiZleba, aRmoCndes da yvelas SeiZleba, sa- Tanado axsnac hqondes. sxvaTa Soris, Temur Wyonias da mis brendebs pativs vcem. amitom me, ubralod, simarTle mainteresebs da problema ar aris, adamianebs movusmino. saerTod, Cven unda gadavwyvitoT, simarTlis mosmena gvinda Tu ara. piradad me simarTlis mosmena minda! _ iago, „process”, rogorc vici, ukve ramdenime Tvea, akeTeb da am xnis ganmavlobaSi rame ise- Ti Tu amotivtivda, rac sazogadoebam ar icoda? _ ar vici, sazogadoebisTvis ucnobi ra iyo da ra _ ara. piradad CemTvis ki, mas Semdeg, rac politikaSi movedi da aseTi sakiTxebiT davinteresdi, cnobili bevri ram gaxda. sxvebisTvis SeiZleba, yvelaferi cnobilia, magram CemTvis bevri saintereso rame amotivtivda. _ ise, Tqveni azriT, sa- marTlianobis aRdgena mxolod 90-ian wlebs unda Seexos Tu si- marTle Tundac im periodzec unda gavigoT, roca igive „girCis” liderebi „nacmoZraobis” wevrebi da mxardamWerebi iyvnen? _ Zalian kargi SekiTxvaa da didi madloba am SekiTxvisTvis. _ imedia, pasuxic saintereso da kargi iqneba. _ zogadad, saqarTvelos istoria mainteresebs da, Sesabamisad, SeuZlebelia, am interesze uari vTqva. igive im cxra welze bevri ram vici, radgan Cemi politikuri azrovneba mimdinare politikiT iyo dainteresebuli. amitom odesme am 9 welzec gadaval, Tumca 2020 wlis arCevnebamde 90-ian wlebs unda movrCe. _ zogadad, samarTlianoba subieqturia, yovel SemTxvevaSi, adamianebi simarTles subieqturad aRiqvamen. _ diax, asea. amitom, asi respondentis Cawera minda, radgan asi sxvadasxva adamianis mier danaxul realobas Sevxedo, daskvnasac amis Semdeg gamovitan da ama Tu im faqtis axsnasac mxolod amis Semdeg SevZleb. _ e. i., erTgvarad, saxalxo msa- `ar vici, im dokumentebSi ra weria da, rogorc giTxariT, isic ar vici, saerTod gamoZiebulia Tu ara. amas garda, wesiT, sagamoZiebo uwyebamac unda icodes, rom es dokumentebi erovnul bankSi inaxeba. Sesabamisad, Tu gamosaZiebeli iyo, aqamde gamoiZiebda. Cven, ubralod, amis gasajaroeba gvainteresebs, Torem imas ki ar vambobT, rom am saqmeze, apriori, vinme dasaWeria!~ julis rolSi gamodixarT? _ ara, aranairad. ubralod, cnobismoyvare adamiani var da minda, im periodze, roca davibade, meti informacia gavigo, anu maSin im realobis Sinaarsi kargad ar mesmoda. amitom mainteresebs, realurad ra xdeboda. _ roca partiis saxe da lideri msgavs Tundac satelevizio proeqts akeTebs, SegviZlia vTqvaT, rom yvelaferi es politikuri gavlenisgan Tavisufalia? _ ar vici. saerTod, subieqturi var da Cems politikur gemovnebasac ar vmalav, Tumca es gadacema istorias exeba da adamianebs, sakuTar ideologiasTan erTad, faqtebzec vekiTxebi. ise, SeiZleba, ucnauria, magram respondentebi gulwrfelad melaparakebian da, Sesabamisad, igive 90-ian wlebze sakuTari daskvnebi gamomaqvs. _ ratom ggoniaT, rom respondentebi gulwrfelad gesaubre- bian? _ yovel SemTxvevaSi, vcdilob, rom maT gulwrfelobas mivaRwio. _ iago, Sevecdebi, erTgvari procesi mogiwyoT, amitom mainteresebs Tqveni, rogorc politikosis damokidebuleba axlan- del procesebze, magaliTad, ras fiqrobT beselias mier zardiaS- vilisTvis „saxis axevaze”? _ im sasamarTloze, romelsac eka beseliam xeli mouqnia, Cemi damokidebuleba cnobilia, Tumca konkretul adamianebze saubari ar minda. _ ratom ar gindaT? _ vano zardiaSvils piradad vicnob da urTierToba axla ar dagviwyia. amitom, zogadad, vityvi: is, rac eka beseliam gaakeTa, politikuri aqtia. es aqti radikaluri, magram, Cemi azriT, swori iyo! _ SeiZleba, magram politiko- sebi simarTles muSti-kriviT unda adgendnen? sxvaTa Soris, 90- ian wlebSi am muSti-krivma Zalian cudi forma miiRo da saqme sisx- lisRvramdec mivida. _ maSin adamianebs rom scodnodaT, maT Tavs ra xdeboda, Cveni cxovreba ukeTesad wavidoda. aqedan gamomdinare, vfiqrob, rom is, rasac vakTeb, sworia! mokled, realobis gasagebad mzad uda viyoT. amas ki mxolod maSin gavigebT, Tu warsuli gvecodineba! sxvaTa Soris, Cveni politika mdidaria iseTi adamianebiT, romlebic politikaSi Zalian didi xani arian, rac kargia da erTgvarad komfortulad vgrnob Tavs, roca maTTan er- Tad varkvev, warsulSi ra xdeboda. _ iago, JurnalistikaSi axali xarT da SeiZleba, arc gifiqriaT, rom dvaliSvilis saqmis amoqeqva SesaZloa, safrTxis Semcve- li iyos, anu gamoricxavT, rom vinmem Tqveni gaCereba moisurvos? _ amaze ar mifiqria. verc vxvdebi, vinmem es ratom unda moindomos. me, ubralod, simarTle mainteresebs. Secdomas yvela uSvebs _ unaklo da uSecdomo aravinaa. am SemTxvevaSic imazea laparaki, gvinda gavigoT Tu ara, odesme ra Secdoma davuSviT, Tumca yvelafer amas piradi Sinaarsi ar aqvs. amitom, mgonia, rom karg saqmes vakeTeb da amis gamo mtrebi ratom unda myavdes? _ SevTanxmdeT, rom „dvaliSvi- lis davTris” gasajaroeba bevrs ar esiamovneba. _ mgonia, rom „dvaliSvilis davTarSi” Zalian bevri kargi adamiania da yvela maTgans, rogorc `CemTvis CxartiSvili saintereso respondentia. yovel SemTxvevaSi, mgonia, rom yvela xelisuflebis dros misi gavlenebi yuradRebas imsaxurebs. am kacze SeiZleba, sxva rame gansakuTebuli ar gamigia, magram udavod sainteresoa, Tumca Cemi gadacemis formati ar aris, rom CxartiSvils sabWoTa anabrebis moparvis kuTxidan Sevxedo~ giTxariT, Tavisi axsna eqneba, Tan aq imaze ar aris laparaki, rom vinmem sesxi daabrunos. _ aba, razea? _ ubralod, am qveynis istoriaze saubari unda daviwyoT da yvelaferi, rasac Cveni mteri ambobs, ar davijeroT. _ ukacravad, mteri ra SuaSia? _ Cvenma mterma bevri miTi Seqmna da saqme iqamde mivida, rom mTelma erma erTmaneTi „kakegebeSnikebad” gamoacxada. arada, miuxedavad imisa, rom „kagebe” arseboboda, „kagebeSniki” mosaxleobis aT procentze meti ar iqneboda. amitom bevr adamians reabilitaciis saSualeba unda mivceT, miT umetes, rom bevri tyuilad gvgonia cudi da, sinamdvileSi, cudi sulac ar aris! _ asea Tu ise, pirveli ar xarT, vinc „dvaliSvilis CanawerebiT” interesdeba _ am Temaze mec mi- muSavia da „qronika+”-is amave nomerSi, Tqveni intervius paralelurad, „dvaliSvilis saqmis” de- talebic gamoqveyndeba. _ SeiZleba, maT, vinc am Temaze muSaobdnen, vinme ebrZoda, magram me aravis vebrZvi. _ es gavige, magram Tqveni gadacema sabWoTa anabrebis gaqro- ba-miTvisebiT Tu dainteresdeba? sxvaTa Soris, am saqmis mTavari figuranti vano CxartiSvilia, romelmac, rogorc amboben, swored xalxis anabrebiT iSova milionebi... _ CemTvis CxartiSvili saintereso respondentia. yovel SemTxvevaSi, mgonia, rom yvela xelisuflebis dros misi gavlenebi yuradRebas imsaxurebs. am kacze SeiZleba, sxva rame gansakuTebuli ar gamigia, magram udavod sainteresoa, Tumca Cemi gadacemis formati ar aris, rom CxartiSvils sabWoTa anabrebis moparvis kuTxidan Sevxedo. me sxva ram mainteresebs. _ da es „sxva ram”, CxartiSvi- lis SemTxvevaSi, ra aris? _ me istoria da istoriuli personaJebi mainteresebs _ rogorebi iyvnen da samyaros rogor uyurebdnen. _ ise, Tqveni SefasebiT, dval- iSvilma marTla Tavi moikla Tu mokles? _ dvaliSvilma, Cems xelT jerjerobiT arsebuli informaciiT, Tavi moikla. yovel SemTxvevaSi, roman gociriZem Cems gadacemaSi ase Tqva da es CemTvis damajerebelia. _ politikos iago xviCias azriT, dvaliSvils ratom unda moekla Tavi? _ rogorc roman gociriZem Tqva, mis dokumentebSi iseTi adamianebi iyvnen, romelTa „CaSvebasac” dvaliSvils sikvdili erCia, Tumca am Temaze gansxvavebul mosazrebasac movismen! ise, mas Semdeg, rac am sias wavikiTxavT, Sei- Zleba, axali diskusia wamoviwyoT. _ erovnulma bankma Tqvens moTxovnaze ra pasuxi gagcaT? _ erovnuli bankisgan miviRe pasuxi: es saidumlo informaciaa da amitom sasamarTlos gareSe ver gavcemo. ar vici, sajaro informaciis gacemas sasamarTlos nebar- Tva ratom sWirdeba, Tumca ar var darwmunebuli, rom erovnul bank- Tan samarTlebriv davaSi unda Sevide, anu Cemi nabiji politikuri aqti iyo _ me politikosi var da is vici, rom sajaro informaciis gacemaze problema Seiqmna. _ e. i., erovnulma bankma dagi- tasturaT, rom dvaliSvilis „Savi sia” arsebobs, ara? _ diax. erovnuli bankis yofili prezidenti ambobs, rom es dokumenti nanaxi aqvs. _ „girCi” am Temis politikuri dividendebisTvis gamoyenebas xom ar apirebs? _ aseTi rameebi CvenTvis naklebadaa damaxasaiTebeli. ubralod, gvainteresebs, im periodSi qveynis ekonomikas ra daemarTa da amas, Cemi azriT, bevrnairad unda SevxedoT. Tu am informacias vinme ar gvaZlevs, es xom imas niSnavs, rom isini, romlebmac maSin qveyana daaqcies, politikaSi gavlenas axlac inaCuneben da raRacebis gasajaroeba amitom ar undaT. yvelafer amidan Tu politikuri dividendebi gamova, ratomac ara _ amiT Cvenc movigebT da sazogadoebac! _ is ekonomikuri stagnacia, rac qveyanaSi axlaa, maSindelis gamoZaxilia? _ diax, cxadia, amis bralic aris, anu Tavis droze daSvebul Secdomebze Tvals vxuWavT. _ CvenSi darCes da, lars kuponis bedi xom ar elis? _ lari kuponi ar aris da arc imis dajereba minda, rom axlandeli xelisufleba raRacebs ise araseriozulad uyurebs, rogorc kuponis gamoSvebas uyurebdnen, Tumca Cvens ekonomikas realuri safrTxe emuqreba! _ anu gamoricxavT, rom axlac muSaobdes kreditebis gacemis maSindeli sqema? _ yovel SemTxvevaSi, frTxilad unda viyoT, miT umetes, rom am xelisuflebas bevr rameSi ar vendobiT! P. S. am Temaze Cven roman goc- iriZesTanac gvsurda saubari, Tumca batonma romanma, am etapze, Tavi Seikava. amitom „qronika+~ sxvadasxva dros mediaSi gaoqveynebuli masalebis mixedviT dval- iSvilis „Savi siis” anatomias amave nomerSi gTavazobT. N30 (291) 1.10-07.10.2019 w. 5
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