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<strong>From</strong> <strong>Leaving</strong> Certificate <strong>to</strong> <strong>Leaving</strong> School<br />

Interviewer: And what kinds of things would you cover?<br />

Mostly college, PLC courses and that.<br />

If you want <strong>to</strong> do a trade, it’s no good.<br />

Because they don’t talk about trades really.<br />

They don’t talk about trades really you have <strong>to</strong> go and do that yourself.<br />

(Dawes Point, boys’ school, working-class intake)<br />

Similarly, students in Lang Street students felt that the guidance counsellor<br />

spent all their time on preparing students for college:<br />

I’m not going <strong>to</strong> college either so I didn’t get any attention. (Lang<br />

Street, boys’ school, working-class intake)<br />

Some of those interviewed mentioned the option of taking the ‘back<br />

door’ in<strong>to</strong> certain careers or courses, either as a mature student or<br />

through intermediate courses. Some students appeared a little frustrated<br />

by the lack of options for them if they were not successful in getting<br />

adequate CAO points:<br />

They don’t tell you about all the back doors in<strong>to</strong> courses … Like if<br />

you don’t get the points. (Argyle Street, coed school, mixed intake)<br />

Some students felt that the onus was on them <strong>to</strong> get all the information<br />

they needed. They felt this was time consuming and would have liked<br />

their teacher <strong>to</strong> help them:<br />

Spent the whole lot of the first three classes looking for like forms,<br />

application forms for colleges <strong>to</strong> do hairdressing. (Belmore Street,<br />

girls’ school, mixed intake)<br />

Even where students intended on going <strong>to</strong> college, many felt that far <strong>to</strong>o<br />

much time was spent on completing the CAO form. They felt that this<br />

was a simple exercise that did not merit the amount of time given <strong>to</strong> it in<br />

class:<br />

Even when we do have it, it’s useless, they do nothing for you….<br />

Interviewer: What kinds of things do you cover in the class?

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