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People<br />
If the Efficiency Ratio is low,<br />
then a mean-reverting strategy is<br />
better than a trend method.<br />
Kaufman: Absolutely. Trends in general are what I call a<br />
“sound premise.” But they need to be long-term trends to<br />
pick up the direction of the economy, or the US dollar or<br />
euro, or major changes in supply and demand. I wouldn’t<br />
try faster trends because I don’t think they’re reliable.<br />
Prices can jump quite a bit on news, but it’s hard to<br />
capture that with a moving average, and most often you<br />
get false signals. Trend systems need to capture the fat<br />
tail to be successful. If you’ve studied the profile of trend<br />
performance, there are many more losses than profits, so<br />
the profits need to be bigger. I’m convinced that you need<br />
the rare, very large profit to win on balance.<br />
TRADERS´: What do you think about genetic programming<br />
Do you have experience in this field, and if so, which<br />
results did you attain<br />
Kaufman: I’ve created a portfolio program using a genetic<br />
algorithm, and I think I can beat the standard meanvariance<br />
approach that is used in the industry. On the<br />
other hand, I wouldn’t use either one because they are<br />
simply an exercise in over-fitting. These powerful tools<br />
are tempting, but I don’t think they work in the markets.<br />
And I haven’t read anywhere that they have predictive<br />
power. I still think the best solutions are simpler ones.<br />
TRADERS´: Young markets and old markets … this topic<br />
was originally addressed in your “Smarter Trading” book.<br />
Nowadays, which are the younger easier markets and<br />
which one the older<br />
Kaufman: That’s a good question and it goes back to why<br />
the smaller investor has an advantage. Newer markets,<br />
usually index markets, are much trendier and can be<br />
traded with faster moving averages, or whatever trending<br />
method you want. It’s the same as the way we traded<br />
in the 1970s before volume jumped up. New markets<br />
don’t have as much noise because there are far fewer<br />
participants. As they mature they get noisier, so the US<br />
index markets, followed by European, are the noisiest<br />
and need slower trends to be successful. So there is a<br />
window of opportunity for the retail trader to use a trend<br />
for new index markets.<br />
TRADERS´: What is the most reliable technical indicator in<br />
order to detect noise in a price series<br />
Kaufman: The only one I know that measures noise is<br />
my own “Efficiency Ratio,” which has also been named<br />
“fractal efficiency.” It’s simply the difference in price over<br />
n days divided by the sum of the path, which is the sum<br />
of absolute values of the daily changes over the same<br />
n days. The idea was that if you went in a straight line<br />
from point A to point B, then the efficiency was 1.0 (no<br />
noise). If you wander around then the efficiency goes<br />
down, and if you go nowhere then the efficiency is zero<br />
(all noise). Even though I did that in the early 1980s, the<br />
only useful application that I’ve found is for it is deciding<br />
which system to apply to each market. For example, if the<br />
ratio is high then there is a lot of trend and we can use a<br />
trend method. If the ratio is low, then a mean-reverting<br />
strategy is better. I was hoping for more but haven’t yet<br />
figured it out.<br />
I have two charts that I created for the Asian Financial<br />
Forum in 2012. One chart ranks the Asian markets by<br />
noise (Figure 2) and the other ranks a large number of<br />
futures markets the same way (Figure 3). You’ll see that<br />
the more mature Asian markets, the ones in Japan and<br />
Hong Kong, are the noisiest while the less traded ones,<br />
Sri Lanka and Vietnam, are the trendiest. And for futures,<br />
the U.S. and European index markets are the noisiest if<br />
you look past the agricultural products (seasonality fights<br />
with the long term trend). So you want to favour mean<br />
reversion systems for those markets on the right of the<br />
chart, and trend systems for those on the left.<br />
TRADERS´: From your experience, what seems to be the<br />
best filter ever for detecting a trend<br />
Kaufman: I would use a long-term trend as a filter for<br />
short-term trading. And it doesn’t really matter which<br />
method you use. I think that most trend calculations<br />
give you the same result over time. It’s really the market<br />
and not the method. If the market is trending then all<br />
the methods are profitable, and if it’s not trending then<br />
none of them are. There are some internal differences.<br />
For example, a moving average has a lot of small losses<br />
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