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Volume 1 - Discourses - Books I - II - College of Stoic Philosophers

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BOOK <strong>II</strong>. xx. 33-xxi.imention that, although they enjoy night and day, thechanges <strong>of</strong> the year and the stars and the sea and theearth and the co-operation <strong>of</strong> men, they are notmoved in the least by any one <strong>of</strong> these things, butlook merely for a chance to belch out their trivial"problem/' and after thus exercising their stomachto go <strong>of</strong>f to the bath. But what they are going tosay, or what they are going to talk about, or to whom,and what their hearers are going to get out <strong>of</strong> thesethings that they are saying, all this has never giventhem a moment's concern. 1greatly fear that anoble-spirited young man may hear these statementsand be influenced by them, or, having been influencedalready, may lose all the germs <strong>of</strong> the nobility whichhe possessed that;we may be giving an adulterergrounds for brazening out his acts that some;embezzler <strong>of</strong> public funds may lay hold <strong>of</strong> a speciousplea based upon these theories ;that someone whoneglects his own parents may gain additionalaffrontery from them.What, then, in your opinion is good or bad, base ornoble? This or that? What then? Is there anyuse in arguing further against any <strong>of</strong> these persons, orgiving them a reason, or listening to one <strong>of</strong> theirs, ortrying to convert them? By Zeus, one might muchrather hope to convei't a filthy degenerate than menwho have become so deaf and blind !CHAPTER XXIOf inconsistencySOME <strong>of</strong> their faults men readily admit, but othersnot so readily. Now no one will admit that he is3*3

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