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rogor unda aRmoifxvras jan-dacvaSi arsebuli problemebi?mzad aris Tu ara Cveni qveyanaimisTvis, rom koronavirusisgavrcelebis, minimum, prevenciamoaxdinos? ra xdeba opoziciaSida ratom ebrZvis ivaniSvilisaakaSvils gaveSebuli? _ am dasxva saintereso Temebze Cvenigamocema manana jebaSvils es-aubra:_ qalbatono manana, vinaidanmTel msoflios koronavirusiakeria pirze, Cvenc saubari amTemiT unda daviwyoT,miTumetes, rom eqimi xarT. mokled,Tqveni SefasebiT, saqarTvelos21-e saukunis es „Wiri” emuqrebaTu ara da, saerTod, saxelmwifoam gamowvevisTvis mzadaa?_ bunebaSi virusebis didi jgufia,maT Sorisaa, koronavirusebi.saerTod, adamianisa da asevecxovelebis koronavirusebic arsebobs.zogjer cxovelis koronavirusiadamianze gadadis.swored ase moxda 2002 wels honkongSi,roca koronavirusi mTelmsoflioSi gavrcelda da 800 adamianigardaicvala. sxvaTa Soris,garadcvlilTa ricxvi SesaZloa,amaze metic iyo, magram mxolodamdeni aRiricxa. 2012 wels igiveganmeorda saudis arabeTSic damaSinac koronavirusi mTel msofliosmoedo. axlac CineTSi koronavirusiadamianze cxovelidangadavida da ukve 24 qveyanaSiagavrcelebuli. mokled, rogorcmogexsenebaT, es problema jandacvismsoflio organizaciamjandacvis globalur safrTxedgamoacxada. am droisTvis gardacvliliaukve samasamde adamiani.imisTvis, rom koronavirusisaqarTveloSic ar gavrceldes,jandacvis msoflio organizaciisyvela rekomendaciis Sesrulebaaucilebelia. amasTan, getyviT,rom Cveni qveyana am gamowvevis-Tvis, veWvob, mzad araa._ amas ratom ambobT?_ ai, magaliTad, SarSan Cveulebrivigripis viruss ver umklavdebodnen_ ambulatoriebSi virusianipacientebis rigebi idga,rasac pirbadeebis deficiticdaemata. yvelafer aqedan gamomdinare,qveyanaSi pandemiis safr-Txe rom ar gaCndes, jobia, jandacvismsoflio organizaciisyvela rekomendacia axlave davicvaT._ qalbatono manana, panikissafuZveli gvaqvs?_ 2002 da 2012 wlebSi am virusisgavrcelebas gansakuTrebulipanika ar mohyolia, magram Sesa-Zloa, axla ufro Zlieri Stami20294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`biZinam icis, rom miSa mas daamarcxebsmmarTveli gundi Tavs iwonebs,giorgi abaSiZerom 2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebisSemdeg saqarTvelos nebis-mieri moqalaqisTvis jandacva xelmisawvdomia, Tumca dargisspecialistebi ase ar fiqroben da amboben, rom „ocnebam” jan-dacvis sfero daasamara! vin aris qarTuli jandacvis mesaflave_ jandacvisa da socialuri uzrunvelyofis amJamindeli minis-tri ekaterine tikaraZe Tu misi winamorbedi, daviT sergeenko?_ „nacionaluri moZraobis” wevri, yofili deputati manana je-baSvili, romelic, amavdroulad, strategia „aRmaSeneblis” jan-dacvis programaSicaa CarTuli, „qronika+~-sTan ambobs, rom me-saflavis „tituls” mxolod tikaraZes ver mivaniWebT, Tumcaman jandacvas „sakontrolo gasrola” namdvilad daaWeda!iyos, Tumca amis Sesaxeb naklebiinformacia arsebobs. Sesabamisad,imis Tqma, panikis safuZveli undagvqondes Tu ara, Zalian rTulia.asea Tu ise, umjobesia, zedmetisifrTxile gamoviCinoT da qveyanadavicvaT, vidre is, rom es ambavizereled gavataroT da vTqvaT,araferiao._ Cvens saxelmwifos Tundacprevenciuli RonisZiebebis gasa-tareblad unari Seswevs?_ ai, swored amaSi meparebaeWvi, anu pandemiis SemTxvevaSi,meeWveba, saxelmwifom yvelaferamis marTva SeZlos, miT umetes,gagaxseneT, SarSan, Cveulebrivigripis gavrcelebis dros, qveyanara mdgomareobaSic aRmoCnda.meSinia, axlac igive ar ganmeordesda amitom sifrTxilis zomebiTavidanve unda miviRoT._ sxvaTa Soris, albaT, gaxs-ovT, „nacionaluri moZraobis”mmarTvelobis dros, jandacvismaSindelma ministrma, ladoWipaSvilma, naaxalwlevs mTelieri dagvzafra, „qaTmis grips”veravin gadavurCebiTo. am mxrivekaterine tikaraZe TavSekavebu-lia, metic, jandacvis ministrskoronavirusze gancxadebac argaukeTebia. amas riT xsniT?_ kargia, rom jandacvis ministrikoronavirusze specialurgancxadebebs Tavad ki ar akeTebs,aramed ufro kompetentur amirangamyreliZesa da paata imnaZesakeTebinebs. rac Seexeba ladoWipaSvilis gancxadebas, romelicgaixseneT, is konteqstidan amoglejilifraza iyo. saerTod,panikis Seqmna mizanSewonili araa,magram mosaxleobis gafrTxilebaaucilebelia._ zogadad, bevri medikosisganmomismenia, tikaraZem jandacvamoklao. Tqvenc ase fiqrobT?_ simarTle giTxraT, jandacvissistemis dasamarebas mxolodtikaraZes ver davabralebT,Tumca man sakontrolo gasrolanamdvilad ganaxorciela!zogadad, „ocnebis” jandacvissistema Tavidanve araswori iyo,anu reforma sabiujeto Tanxebisgamoyofas mxolod hospitaluriseqtorisTvis iTvaliswinebda,Tan dafinansebisa da marTvisaraswori modeliT. yvelafermaaman xarjebis geometriuli progresiiTzrda gamoiwvia. amas garda,ar moxda pirveladi jandacvisrgolis gaZliereba, medikamentebisadmixelmisawvdomobis gazrda,eleqtronuli jandacvis danergvada a. S._ ambobT, tikaraZem „sakontr-olo gasrola” ganaxorcielaomanana jebaSvili:èkaterinetikaraZemjandacvissistemis mimarTsakontrologasrolaganaxorciela!~da ras gulisxmobT, qalbatonomanana?_ magaliTad, 520-e dadgenileba„sakontrolo gasrola” namdviladiyo. amas garda, sxva programebicrealurad deficituria,rac saboloo dasamarebaa._ gavrcelebuli informaciiT,e. w. sayovelTao jandacva maisam-de Sewyda. amis Sesaxeb ra iciTda, saerTod, ufaso jandacvisprogramam qveyanas rame sikeTemoutana?_ konstituciiT, janmrTelobisufleba yvela adamians aqvs,rac imas niSnavs, rom mkurnalobisgareSe aravin unda darCes.adamianebisTvis, romlebsac amissaWiroeba aqvT, diaxac, jandacvaufaso unda iyos. mTavaria, saxelmwifomes programa xarjefeqtianad,anu swori dafinansebismodeliT ganaxorcielos. erTisitviT, e. w. ufaso jandacva cudinamdvilad araa da sikeTe moaqvs,oRond ara aseTi formiTa damodeliT, roca xarjebi kolosaluradizrdeba, sinamdvileSi kigaumjobesebas ver viRebT, e. i.,daavadebis maCvenebeli ar mcirdeba.arada, biujetis lamis erTimesamedi swored jandacvaze midis,magram zogierT nozologia-Si avadoba da sikvdilianoba gazrdilia!_ „ocneba” „ce” hepatitisprogragramiTac amayobda, Tumcarogorc gairkva, medikamentebsvada gauvida da gadayares. amisgamo sergeenkos pasuxismgeblo-bis sakiTxi unda dadges Tu ara?_ „ce” hepatitis programiTjandacvis saministrom ki ara, imqarTvelma eqimebma unda iamayon,romelTa kiserzec am programiswarmatebiT Sesrulebam, ase vTqvaT,gadaiara! amasTan, madlobaaSS-is mTavrobasac unda vuTxraT,rom es programa daafinansa. Cvenmajandacvis saministrom ki isicver moaxerxa, rom pacientebi programaSiCaerTo. yvelafer amasmravalmilioniani preparatebisgadayra moyva, Tumca am zaralis`ce~ hepatitis programiT jandacvissaministrom ki ara, im qarTvelma eqimebmaunda iamayon, romelTa kiserzec am programiswarmatebiT Sesrulebam, ase vTqvaT, gadaiara!amasTan, madloba aSS-is mTavrobasac undavuTxraT, rom es programa daafinansa~miuxedavad, samarTlebrivad, sergeenkospasuxismgebloba, vfiqrob,ver dadgeba, magram kanoniswinaSe pasuxs yvela erTnairadagebs._ ukacravad, sergeenkos pa-suxismgeblobis sakiTxi ratomver dadgeba?_ amxela zaralis miuxedavad,Cemi azriT, ar arsebobs muxli,romliTac SesaZloa, sergeenkogasamarTldes. aq imazea saubari,rom man masze dakisrebuli valdebulebebiver Seasrula. imas kinamdvilad ver vityvi, korufciashqonda Tu ara adgili _ es didiciliswamebaa._ qalbatono manana, rogorcvici, aqtiurad xarT CarTuli„strategia aRmaSeneblis” jan-dacvis programaSi. opoziciajandacvis sferos gajansaRebasrogor apirebs?_ saamisod mTeli koncefciaarsebobs: mTavari, rac undamoxdes, pirveladi jandacvis ga-Zliereba, daavadebaTa prevenciada profilaqtikaa. mogexsenebaT,adreul stadiaze aRmoCenilidaavadeba araTu advilad gankurnebadia,aramed mcire danaxarjebsacmoiTxovs. amas garda,saWiroa, rom saxelmwifo programebiufro moqnili da efeqtianigaxdes. medikamentebze xelmisawvdomobacunda gaizardos.ai, magaliTad, TurqeTSi ukeTesixarisxis wamlebi gacilebiT iafia,vidre _ saqarTveloSi. yvelaferamis paralelurad, eleqtronulijandacvac unda dainergos, jandacvisdafinansebisa da marTvissistema ki ufro progresuli dadasavleTis qveynebSi aprobirebulimodeliT Seicvalos. es Cvenikoncefciis ZiriTadi Tezisebiada TiToeul punqtze saubaridausruleblad SeiZleba._ mesmis, magram martivadmiTxariT, yvelaferi es ganxor-cielebadia, qalbatono manana?_ ra Tqma unda. sxvaTa Soris,2003 wels, pirveladi jandacvisprogramis ganxorcieleba imisgamo ver daviwyeT, rom saxelmwifobiujeti sul 500 milioniiyo, magram axla, roca amxela biujetia,pirveladi jandacvisprograma aucilebelia, radganamiT, yvelafers Tavi rom dav-20 N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com_ amitomac ebrZvis gaveSebuli!~aneboT, xarjebi, rac geometriuliprogresiiT izrdeba, daizogeba!erTi sityviT, pirveladi jandacvayvelaze idealuri formaa,romelic qveyanam aucilebladunda ganaxorcielos!ai, medikamentebis xelmisawvdomobisTviski, minimum, monopoliebiunda daingres da sxvaRonisZiebebic gatardes. amas garda,mas, visac amis saWiroeba aqvs,medikamentebi aucileblad undadaufinansdes. sayovelTao jandacvispirobebSi pacientze garkveuliTanxa ixarjeba, magramgamokvlevebisa da mkurnalobisSemdeg pacients imis Tanxa aRaraqvs, rom kargi da saWiro raodenobismedikamentebi SeiZinos. e. i.,Tanxa ki ixarjeba, magram adamianibolomde ar ikurneba da es naxevradgakeTebuli jandacvaa.sxvaTa Soris, jandacvis sferoyvela qveyanaSi eleqtronulisistemiT gaumjobesda da amis gakeTebaCvenTanac Zalian mniSvnelovania.Cven jandacvaSi prioritetadonkologia avirCieT da giorgivaSaZis iniciativiT, strategia„aRmaSeneblis” farglebSi onkologiismarTvis centri Seiqmna,romelic efuZneba sam princips:onkologiuri daavadebebis diagnostikas,prevenciasa da maRalidonis mkurnalobas. yvelaferi eski saxelmwifom sakuTar Tavzeunda aiRos.strategia „aRmaSeneblis” farglebSidafuZnebuli „onkologiismarTvis centri”, uaxloes momavalSi,urTierTTanamSromlobismemorandumebs aSS-isa daevropis qveynebTan gaaformebs,rac onkologiis dargis ganvi-TarebaSi dagvexmareba. saerTod,onkologiuri pacientebis umetesobasaqarTvelodan samkurnaloducxoeTSi midis. es didfinansebTanaa dakavSirebuli. Cvenimizania, rom saqarTvelos nebismiermoqalaqes SevuqmnaT Sesa-Zlebloba, samSobloSi iseTi ma-Rali donis samedicino momsaxurebamiiRos, rogorsac ganvi-Tarebuli qveynebis pacientebisakuTar saxelmwifoebSi iReben!_ rac Seexeba premieris imybadaRebul brZanebas, romelmackardioklinikebi lamis daxurvispiramde miiyvana, es dadgenilebaaraprofesionalizmis Sedegia Tuvinmes biznesinteresebisTvis,rogorc ityvian, gzis gasufTave-ba iyo?_ saqarTvelos mTavrobis 2019wlis 5 noembris 520-e dadgenilebismixedviT, saxelmwifom tarifebiyvelaze ufro ganviTarebul,maRalteqnologiur da iseT mniSvnelovansamedicino mmimarTulebebzeSeamcira, rogoricaa reanimaciulimomsaxureba, kardioqirurgia,ariTmologia da nevrologia.amasTan, am dadgenilebiTve,zogierT SemTxvevaSi, tarifisamedicino TviTmomsaxurebazegacilebiT naklebia, anu mkurnalobisRirebuleba pirvel, meoreda mesame donis ganyofilebebSiimdenad Semcirebulia, rom mosalodnelizaralis gamo, SesaZloa,intensiuri sawolebis raodenobaòcnebis~ jandacvis sistema Tavidanve araswori iyo, anu reforma sabiujetoTanxebis gamoyofas mxolod hospitaluri seqtorisTvis iTvaliswinebda,Tan dafinansebisa da marTvis araswori modeliT. yvelaferma aman xarjebisgeometriuli progresiiT zrda gamoiwvia. amas garda, ar moxda pirveladijandacvis rgolis gaZliereba, medikamentebisadmi xelmisawvdomobis gazrda,eleqtronuli jandacvis danergva da a. S.~Semcirdes. ai, swored esaa yvelazemniSvnelovani problema, romliswinaSec aRmovCndebiT, miTumetes, rom intensiuri sawolebisraodenoba sakmarisi arc aqamdeiyo.yvelaferi es ki, didi alba-TobiT, pacientis mkurnalobisxarisxs gaauaresebs.sxvaTa Soris, mTavrobam 520-edadgenileba ise miiRo, rom jandacvissaministros tarifebisSesaxeb molaparakeba arc dargobrivisferos asociaciebTan gaumarTavs,arc _ samedicino sferosmimwodeblebTan da arc _ samedicinopersonalTan!isic mniSvnelovania, rom 26samedicino dawesebulebis moTxovnismiuxedavad, jandacvis saministromdadgenilebis amoqmedebaar gadaavada, raTa yvela problemurisakiTxi ganxiluliyo daiseTi gonivruli tarifebi damtkicebuliyo,romelic dRevandelsafinanso-ekonomikur parametrebsrealurad asaxavda!erTi sityviT, yvelafer amiTjandacvis saministro mxolodsamedicino servisebis mimwodeblebsada samedicino personalski ara, pacientebsac azaralebs!Sesabamisad, samedicino momsaxurebisxarisxi sagrZnobladgauaresdeba._ qalbatono manana, nuTu,zemoxsenebuli dadgenilebis avtorebmaver gaTvales, yve-laferi es ras gamoiwvevda?_ dRes jandacvas imdenad araprofesionalikadrebi marTaven,rom ar gamovricxav, es nabijiaraprofesionalizmiTve iyosgamowveuli, Tumca arc biznesinteresebisnaklebobaa!_ ise, rogorc vici, jandacvissaministro sxvadasxva programisTvistenderebs ar acxadebs.ai, magaliTad, maqvs informacia,rom diabetiT daavadebu-li bavSvebisTvis insulini arSeiZines. amas ra hqvia?_ diax, jandacvis sistemasTandakavSirebiT aseTi problemebi`mixeil saakaSvili rom saqarTveloSiyofiliyo, òcneba~ ukve dasrulebuliiqneboda. amas yvela xvdeba da mniSvneloba araqvs, vin aRiarebs da vin - ara!~namdvilad arsebobs _ zogierTSemTxvevaSi, tenderi ar tardeba,Tumca amaze mniSvnelovani ufroisaa, rom programebi deficituriada amis gamo samedicino momsaxurebadabali xarisxisaa! xolodabali xarisxis samedicino momsaxurebaras niSnavs, mgoni, ganmartebasar saWiroebs!amas garda, deficituri programebisgamo ama Tu im programaSiSesaZloa, is pacientebi verCaerTon, romlebic amas saWiroeben!rac Seexeba diabetiT daavadebulibavSvebis programas,amboben, rom maTi insuliniTuzrunvelyofa pirveli martidandaiwyeba. Cemi informaciiT ki diabetiTdaavadebuli mozrdilebisinsuliniT uzrunvelyofistenderi ar Catarebula._ jandacvis uwyeba socialursakiTxebsac kurirebs. rogorccnobilia, aTasobiT adamians so-cialurad daucvelis statusimouxsnes. es imitom xdeba, rombiujeti daizogos Tu ZaRlisTavi sxvaganaa damarxuli?_ cxadia, geTanxmebiT, romsocialurad daucvelis statusiZalian bevrs mouxsnes. arada,bolo wlebSi imdeni adamiani ga-Ratakda, rom piriqiT unda momxdariyo,anu ki ar unda moexsnaT,aramed socialuri daxmarebamravalisTvis unda daeniSnaT!ise, rom vxedavde, qveyanaSi rameseriozuli proeqti xorcieldeba,vifiqrebdi, am programebzeTanxa dazogeso, magram vergetyviT, am SemTxvevaSi ZaRlisTavi sadaa damarxuli!_ dasamali aravisTvisaa, romCvens qveyanaSi uamravi bavSvigausaZlis pirobebSi cxovrobs.xelisuflebis Secvlis Semdegaxlandel opozicias Tu aqvsgegma, rom am kuTxiT arsebuliviTareba swrafad gaaumjobesos?_ opozicia gegmavs, rom qveyanaSiekonomikuri zrdis maCveneblebirealurad gazardos daiseTi proeqtebi ganaxorcielos,romelic saqarTvelos winsvlisada ganviTarebis saSualebas miscems,magram manamde vgegmavT, rombavSvTa SimSilianoba aRvkveToT!_ amas rogor gaakeTebT?_ sxvadasxva monacemiT, saqa-rTveloSi aTi aTasobiT bavSviSimSilobs, anu im sakvebs da im raodenobiTver iRebs, rac misinormaluri zrdisa da ganviTarebisTvisaucilebelia.piradad Cemi iniciativaa, romsocialuri paketebidan bavSvTasocialuri daxmarebis paketi calkegamoiyos, romelic kvlevebzedayrdnobiT ganisazRvreba dabavSvTa janmrTelobasa da normalurganviTarebas uzrunvelyofs!jerjerobiT qveyanas imis sa-Sualeba ar gaaCnia, rom mdidar daRarib bavSvs rame saxis daxmarebaerTnairad gamouyos, amitom mTelidaxmareba maTken unda mivmar-ToT, visac yvelaze Zalian uWirT!_ bolos, qalbatono manana,opoziciazec gkiTxavT: Tavs uxerxuladar grZnobT, e. w. sakoordinaciosabWoSi prodasav-luri partiebis gverdiT ninoburjanaZec rom zis?_ ruseTis mimarT Cemi damokidebulebaZalian kargad iciT,anu e. w. argaRizianebis politikasar veTanxmebi, radgan sworedam politikis gamo mxolod 2019wlis pirveli seqtembridan dRemderuseTma saqarTvelos 12 milionkvadratul metrze meti teritoriawaiRo! _ CorCanisa da perevistyis masivebs vgulisxmob.sxvaTa Soris, es teritoriebicxinvalis administraciul saz-RvrebSi arasodes yofila!saqarTvelos xelisufleba kimTel am process dumiliTa da e.w. argaRizianebis politikiT uwyobsxels! amasobaSi ki ruseTidanarCeni saqarTvelos dapyrobasacmoindomebs.rac Seexeba burjanaZes, globalursakiTxebSi ar veTanxmebi,Tumca faqtia, rom proporciuliarCevnebi masac unda!_ ise, opoziciam grigolvaSaZeze ieriSi ratom miitana?„girCis” gancxadebas vgulisxmob._ roca burjanaZis partiasTanTanxvedra ar gaqvs, magram proporciuliarCevnebs gamo masTanzixar da, am dros, grigol vaSaZezeambob, mis gverdiT ar davjdebio,es CemTvis gaugebaria.saerTod, xalxi gadawyvets, visira monapovaria da amitom amazedava araseriozulad mimaCnia!_ gveSveleba rame?_ maSin gveSveleba, roca saparlamentoarCevnebSi prodasavluriZalebi gaimarjveben._ gaimarjveben?_ diax, vfiqrob, gaimarjveben,Tumca amisTvis Tavdadebuli daTavganwiruli brZolaa saWiro. ambrZolaSi ukan dasaxevi gza ararsebobs da mjera, rom am brZolaSiCven gavimarjvebT!_ mixeil saakaSvilis gareSeopozicia „ocnebas” daamarcxebs?_ mixeil saakaSvili rom saqar-TveloSi yofiliyo, „ocneba” ukvedasrulebuli iqneboda. amas yvelaxvdeba da mniSvneloba ar aqvs,vin aRiarebs da vin _ ara! sxvaTaSoris, TviT biZinamac icis, rommiSa mas daamarcxebs! saakaSvilsada „nacionalur moZraobas” asegaveSebuli swored amitomacebrZvis!N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.21
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