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pirbadeebis gaZvirebis ukan?
aZvires. saxelmwifoSi ar aris
sakmarisi odenobis pirbade Semotanili.
rac Semosulia, isic
uxarisxoa. es pirbadeebi mosaxleobas
virusisgan ver daicavs.
_ erTma feisbuq-momxmare-
belma dawera, iseTi Txeli
pirbadeebia, rom iq virusi ki
ara, mec gavZvrebio.
_ marTla asea. gavavrcelebT
videokadrebs da yvela Tqvengani
naxavs, Tu ra masStabis usindisoba
xdeba. imasac naxavT,
ra astronomiulad aris gaZvirebuli
is pirbadeebi, romelic
marTla icavs adamians virusis
gavrcelebisgan.
Txeli pirbadeebi, romelic
saqarTveloSi Semoitanes, araefeqtiania.
maqsimum, ori saa-
Tis manZilze muSaobs. samwuxarod,
amasac ar eubnebian adamians.
televiziebidan amaze
aravin esaubreba xalxs. Tavdajerebuli,
brZnuli gamometyvelebiT
gamodian Cinosnebi da
amboben, rom mwvane zonaSi
varT. madloba RmerTs, rom riskis
zonaSi ar varT. sinamdvileSi,
Cven yvelaze maRali riskis
zonaSi varT.
_ ratom?
_ aseTi Cinovnikebi rom
gvyavs, es riskis yvelaze maRali
zonaa, aba, ra aris?! isini
elodebian, rodis gavrceldeba
virusi, rom mere mis winaaRmdeg
brZola daiwyon. arada,
winaswar unda ibrZolo, rom ar
gaCndes. Tu gavrcelda, mters.
albaT undaT kidec, rom gaCndes
virusi da amiT fuls gaakeTeben
_ biujetidan did Tanxebs
Camoweren.
_ CvenSi sxvis ubedurebaze
fulis keTeba Cveuli ambavi
gaxda. gasuli wlis Semodgo-
maze Tqven saafTiaqo mafiis
winaaRmdeg daiwyeT brZola.
Zalian qtiuri iyaviT da axla
aRar CanxarT, ra xdeba? am
Temaze xelisuflebasTanac
gqondaT konsultaciebi. miaRwieT
rames? daakles farmac-
evtulma kompaniebma wamlebs
fasebi?
_ Tavidan Zalian aqtiurad
daviwyeT. politikosebis nawilic
SemouerTda Cvens brZolas.
zogma am TemiT spekulantobac
ki daiwyo. rogorc ki
talRa gaqra, isini gaCerdnen.
rac Seexeba xelisuflebasTan
Cems kontaqts, Tavidan maTTan
SeTanxmebas mivaRwieT, parlamentis
jandacvis komitetTan
samuSao jgufic ki Seiqmna. am
jgufSi CarTuli iyvnen rogorc
farmacevtuli sferos warmomadgenlebi,
aseve jandacvis
saministros TanamSromlebi.
yvelaferi kargad daiwyo, magram
samuSao jgufis sxdoma
jer ar Catarebula.
_ ras elodebian?
_ situacia airia. akaki zoi-
Zem komitetis Tavmjdomaris
posti datova. imas ver vityvi,
`evropasa da amerikaSi aCveneben, rom sazogadoebriv transports dReSi
ramdenjerme amuSaveben specialuri sadezinfeqcio xsnarebiT. aseTi
samuSaoebis Catareba daiwyes ruseTSic - specialuri sadezinfeqcio
xsnarebiT muSavdeba saxelurebi skamebi, metros Sesasvlelebi. es 100%-iT ar
gamoricxavs virusis gavrcelebas, magram mniSvnelovnad aferxebs misi
gavrcelebis safrTxes. davijero, Tbilisis merias imxela resursi ar aqvs,
rom sazogadoebrivi transportis specialuri xsnarebiT damuSaveba daiwyos?
an jandacvis saministros muSakebi ratom arian ase mSvidad? maincdamainc
unda gavrceldes virusi da mere unda daiwyon am RonisZiebebis gatareba?~
rom Cveni kampaniis gamo farmacevtuli
kompaniebi SeSindnen
da wamlebs fasi daakles. imdenad
maRali donis mfarvelebi
hyavT, rom fasebs ar amcireben.
raRac RonisZiebebs ki atareben
Tvalis asaxvevad. afTiaqebSi
Cemi Sesvla ar uxariaT. ra wamalic
ar unda moviTxovo, meubnebian,
rom ar gvaqvso. aseTi
gziT cdiloben, Tavidan momi-
Soron. mere sxvebi SevuSvi da
davafiqsireT, Tu ra xdeba af-
TiaqebSi.
saxelmwifos Zalian saintereso
programa aqvs pensionerebisTvis.
gadaudebel medikamentebs
maT 1 larad aZleven. es
programa rom xorcieldebodes,
kargi iqneboda. farmacevtuli
kompaniebi didi zarzeimiT
CaerTnen am programaSi,
magram misi Sesruleba ar surT
da arc asruleben. Sedis pensioneri
da iTxovs im gadaudebel
wamals, romelic mas 1 la-
`didi unamusobaa. pensionerebma skandali rom
ar moawyon, maT sadRac sxva afTiaqSi agzavnian
da eubnebian, rom iq iqneba maTTvis saWiro
wamali, midian iq da igive situacia xvdebaT.
normalur qveyanaSi amaze seriozuli skandali
agordeboda, aq ki amis aravis eSinia.
farmacevtuli kompaniebi imdenad daculad
grZnoben Tavs, rom arafers aRar eridebian.
erT pensioners rom uTxres, programiT
gaTvaliswinebuli aRar gvaqvs da Tu gindaT,
komerciuli iyideTo, hkiTxa, - eg wamali aqeT
rom gadmodoT, ar SeiZlebao? da sastiki uari
uTxres. programa, romelic pensionerebisTvis
aris, Zalian kargia, magram is ar muSaobs. amas
xelisuflebam yuradReba unda miaqcios~
rad ekuTvnis. eubnebian, rom
programiT gaTvaliswinebuli
wamali aRar gvaqvs, magram komerciuli
gvaqvso.
_ erTsa da imave wamalzea
saubari?
_ diax. ubralod, sxva Taroze
udevT da pensioners eubnebian,
rom es wamali Cveulebriv
fasad unda iyidon.
_ radgan sxva Taroze devs?
_ asea.
_ ra unamusobaa.
_ didi unamusobaa. pensionerebma
skandali rom ar moawyon,
maT sadRac sxva afTiaqSi
agzavnian da eubnebian, rom iq
iqneba maTTvis saWiro wamali,
midian iq da igive situacia
xvdebaT. normalur qveyanaSi
amaze seriozuli skandali agordeboda,
aq ki amis aravis eSinia.
farmacevtuli kompaniebi
imdenad daculad grZnoben
Tavs, rom arafers aRar eridebian.
erT pensioners rom uTxres,
programiT gaTvaliswinebuli
aRar gvaqvs da Tu gindaT,
komerciuli iyideTo, hki-
Txa, _ eg wamali aqeT rom gadmodoT,
ar SeiZlebao? da sastiki
uari uTxres. programa,
romelic pensionerebisTvis aris,
Zalian kargia, magram is ar
muSaobs. amas xelisuflebam
yuradReba unda miaqcios.
_ C hepatitis samkurnalod
gamoyofil wamlebs rom vada
gauyvanes, amasTan dakavSirebiT
Tu iciT rame? naxevari mi-
liardi laris Rirebulebis
wamali rogor unda gadayaron?
es mavneblobaa Tu ko-
rufcia?
_ simarTle giTxraT, ver
gavarkvie, Tu ra mizeziT ar gamoiyenes
am raodenobis wamali.
aq, minimum, danaSaulebrv gulgrilobasTan
gvaqvs saqme. amas
seriozuli Seswavla sWirdeba.
veWvob, didi danaSauli moxda.
ar gamovricxav, rom raRac
obieqturi mizezebic iyo.
_ wamlebis fasebis Temas
davubrundeT, am sakiTxis wamowevas
kidev Tu apirebT? ro-
ca Tqven es kampania daiwyeT,
xalxs raRac imedi gauCnda,
gansakuTrebiT, pensionerebs.
_ am Temaze muSaoba arc Semiwyvetia
da arc Sevwyvet. es Tema
politikam gadafara. zemoT
giTxariT, rom samuSao jgufic
Seiqmna. am jgufis pirveli
sxdoma „ocnebis” mier sakonstitucio
cvlilebis Cagdebas
daemTxva, _ proporciul saarCevno
sistemaze gadasvlas
vgulisxmob. amis sawinaaRmdegod
opoziciam aqciebis seria
daiwyo. winasaarCevno cirkma,
„nacebisa” da „ocnebis” Teatralizebulma
kinklaobam, yvela
sxva Tema gadafara.
_ axla media, ZiriTadad,
winasaarCevno bataliebzea ga-
dasuli, magram wamlebis fasic
aranakleb skandaluri Temaa.
siZviris gamo adamianebi uwam-
lobiT ixocebian.
_ geTanxmebiT, saafTiaqo mafia
umniSvnelovanesi da skandaluri
Temaa. samwuxarod, rac
ufro mniSvnelovania Tema,
„ocneba” da „nacionalebi” miT
ufro cdiloben mis gadafarvas
da amas erTiani ZalebiT
akeTeben. „nacionalebi” xom ase
Zalian arian „ocnebasTan” dapirispirebuli,
erTxel mainc
ratom ar uTxres, rom wamlebs
aZvireben da saafTiaqo mafias
ar ebrZvian? samwuxarod, aris
tabudadebuli Temebi, romlebzedac
arc xelisufleba iRebs
xmas da arc _ opozicia. wamlebis
Temaze maTi dumili imaze
miuTiTebs, rom „ocnebasac” da
wina xelisuflebasac saafTiaqo
mafia afinansebs. politikur
partiebs sanam farmacevtuli
biznesisgan fulis
miReba ar aekrZalebaT, manamde
sul aseTi mdgomareoba iqneba.
samwuxaroa, rom am TemiT arc
media interesdeba. isinic saaf-
Tiaqo mafiisgan iReben dafinansebas.
wamlebis reklamaSi es
kompaniebi did fuls ixdian. iq
maTze cudi rame rom iTqvas,
reklamas sxvagan waiReben.
Zalian rTuli mdgomareobaa
am mxriv da saafTiaqo mafiasTan
brZolis mogeba ioli ar
iqneba. amisTvis sazogadoebis
mxardaWera aucilebelia. xalxi
quCaSi Tu ar gamoviyvaneT, am
Caketil wres ver gavarRvevT.
aqcias aqamdec movawyobdiT,
magram yvelaferi kargad unda
gavTvaloT. bevri xalxi Tu ar
gamovida, efeqts ver miviRebT.
amitom ar vCqarobT da vcdilobT,
yvelaferi kargad iyos
organizebuli. imedi maqvs, rom
parlamentTan bevri xalxis
gamoyvanas movaxerxebT.
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