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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com`Rorebi da qaTmebi adrec iyvnen, magram esmsoflio panikaSia. yovel Sem-giorgi abaSiZeTxvxvevaSi, jandacvis msoflio or-ganizaciam koronavirusis gamosaerTaSoriso sagangebo reJimi gamoacxada da ganmarta, romdaavadebis globaluri gavrceleba sazogadoebrivi janmrTe-lobisTvis risks warmoadgens. erTgvari panikaa saqarTveloSic,rac, albaT, bunebrivia, Tumca yvelafer amis fonze CndebakiTxva: ratom imata bolo dros aTasgvarma momakvdinebelmavirusma? vinaidan da radganac, am Temaze amomwuravi pasuxi ararsebobs, sazogadoebaSi musirebs mosazreba, rom virusebiSesaZloa, xelovnurad iqmnebodes. am mosazrebas, pirdapir Tuiribad, gamomgonebeli daviT CaCaniZe da eleqtroqimikosiTengo ZnelaZec iziareben, anu respondentebi „qronika+”-sTansaubrisas albaTobas uSveben, rom virusebis xelovnurad Seqm-na SesaZloa, farmamafiis interesebSi Sediodes.zogadad, es vinmes, SesaZloa,SeTqmulebis Teoriad moeCvenos,magram faqtia: e. w. tradiciulimedicina aratradiciul, anu araqimiursamkurnalo saSualebebsuaryofs. arada, zogjer ama Tu imdaavadebis gankurneba xalxurimeTodebiT ufro SesaZlebelia.ai, magaliTad, vercxlis samkurnaloTvisebebi didi xnis winaTiyo cnobili. kerZod, me-19 saukunismeore naxevarSi germanelmaginekologma, karl kredem, azotmJavavercxlis 1%-iani xsnarisuZlieresi antigonoblenoreuliefeqti aRmoaCina, ramac SesaZlebeligaxada, rom germaniis samSobiarosaxlebSi axalSobilTa TvalisCirqovan-gonoreuli anTebisSemTxvevebi aRmoefxvraT. mogvianebiT,anu 1897 wlis agvistoSi,moskovSi eqimTa me-12 saerTaSorisoyriloba gaimarTa, romelzedackarl kredes Svilma ganacxada,rom vercxls dadebiTi efeqtihqonda Cirqovan qirurgiasa daaseve septiuri infeqciebis intravenurimkurnalobis dros. amitomgermanelma eqimma kolegebsiseTi axali preparatebi SesTavaza,romlebSic araionizebulivercxli Sedioda. ase daiwyo medicinaSikoloiduri vercxlisgamoyeneba. ufro konkretulad,ruseT-iaponiis omis dros koloidurivercxlis intravenuri ineqciebiTmkurnalobdnen septiurarTritebs, revmatizms, bronqulasTmas, grips, mwvave respiratoruldaavadebebs, bronqitebs,pnevmonias, Cirqovan septiur daavadebebs,brucelozs, veneriuldaavadebebs, damwvrobasa Tu CirqovanWrilobebs. Tanamedrove medicinaki koloidur vercxls uaryofs,anu koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnars preparatad ar miiCnevsda antibiotikebs aniWebs upiratesobas.daviT CaCaniZe da Tengo ZnelaZedarwmunebuli arian, rom yvelaferies farmamafiis maqinaciebia.mokled, ratom iqmneba virusebixelovnurad da ratom akeTebsmedicina aqcents ZviradRirebulpreparatebze maSin, roca ama Tuim daavadebis, magaliTad, virusisgangankurneba araqimiuri dagacilebiT iafi preparatebiTacSeiZleba? _ „qronika+~ gTavazobTintervius daviT CaCaniZesa daTengo ZnelaZesTan:Tengo ZnelaZe, eleqtroqimi-kosi:_ 2002 wels erT pirovnebasTavisi ZmisTvis, romelic afxaze-Tis omis dros xerxemalSi daiWrada paraliCi daemarTa, moskovidanrekomendacia misces, reabilitaciaskoloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnaridaaCqarebso._ es koloiduri vercxlis wy-alxsnari medicinaSi gamoiyeneba?_ diax, gamoiyeneba da amis Sesaxebpirveli publikacia 1932 welserT-erT sabWoTa samedicino JurnalSigamoqveynda, Tumca rogorcmedikaments mxolod pirogoviiyenebda, isic sxva, anu „lapisis”saxiT, rac mJavaSi gaxsnilivercxlia. operacia SesaZlebelia,kargi SedegiT damTavrdes, magramWriloba dabinZurdes da pacientigardaicvalos. swored amisTavidan asacileblad pirogovmavercxli mJavaSi gaxsna, ganazavada operaciis Semdeg pirdapir muclisRruSi asxamda. swored am me-TodiT samamulo omis dros pacientTa60 procenti gadaarCinada daWrili jariskacebi mwyobr-Si dabrundnen.daviT CaCaniZe, gamomgonebeli:_ koloiduri vercxli rogorcgaregani, aseve Sinagani WrilobebisTvisgamoiyeneba da dazianebulqsovils 3-4-jer swrafadaRadgens._ Wrilobebze gasagebia, magramkoloiduri vercxli vi-rusebTan sabrZolvelad rogorunda gamoviyenoT?_ unda davlioT.Tengo ZnelaZe:_ mokled, im pirovnebas, romelsacurCies, rom Zmis reabilitaciisTviskoloiduri vercxligamoeyenebina, erTi kursi 800dolaramde ujdeboda, Tan moskovidanunda Camoetana. arada, esojaxi Zalian xelmokle iyo._ koloiduri vercxlisaqarTveloSi ar iyo, moskovidanrom ar Camoetana?_ ara, maSin ar iyo._ axla aris?_ diax, magram Zalian Zviria _100 grami 28 dolari Rirs._ samkurnalod ramdeniasaWiro?_ sanam pacienti ar ganikurneba,Tan daavadebasac gaaCnia. magaliTad,Cveulebrivi gripisdros, aTi dalevis Semdeg, gripisam dReSi gaqreba._ koloiduri vercxlis gri-pis profilaqtikisTvis dalevaSeiZleba?_ ra Tqma unda. erTi sityviT,es pirovneba „gepeiSi” movida dadaxmareba gvTxova. koloidurivercxlis wyalxsnari davumzadeTda miveciT._ koloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarioficialuri medikamen-ti ar aris?daviT CaCaniZe:koloiduri vercxlis saidumlo_ preparati, romelsac medicinaar aRiarebs da romelicadamians virusebisgan icavs_ me-19 saukunis bolodanakrZales._ Tu aseTi uebari saSualebaa,ratomRa akrZales?daviT CaCaniZe:_ imitom, rom sxva samedicinopreparatebs Zalian did konkurenciasuwevs. sxvaTa Soris, koloidurivercxlis wyalxsnari Rvino-Si, araySi an Cveulebriv wyalSirom CavawveToT, Rvino, arayi Tuwyali araTu gafuWdeba, aramedTavis Tvisebebsac ar dakargavs.`msoflio farmamafia koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnars imitom ebrZvis, rom sakuTariSemosavali ar dakargos. yvelafers Tavi romdavaneboT, zogierTi antibiotikis erTi abi 100laric ki Rirs. amasTan, antibiotikebs saxelebsucvlian da isec yidian da xom warmogidgeniaT,amiT farmamafia ra mogebas naxulobs?~Tengo ZnelaZe:_ arsebobs amerikuli farmakologiismamis werili, sadac igiwers, rom farmamafia yvelafersakeTebs, raTa koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnars medikamentis statusiar mieniWos, Torem msoflios37 qveyanaSi am wyalxsnarsara rogorc medikaments, aramedrogorc biologiurad aqtiur ansakveb danamats mainc iyeneben.erTi sityviT, msoflio farmamafiakoloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarsimitom ebrZvis, rom sakuTariSemosavali ar dakargos.yvelafers Tavi rom davaneboT,zogierTi antibiotikis erTi abi100 laric ki Rirs. amasTan, antibiotikebssaxelebs ucvlian daisec yidian da xom warmogidgeniaT,amiT farmamafia ra mogebasnaxulobs?daviT CaCaniZe:_ Cveni bebiebi Cveulebriv wyalSivercxlis kovzs debdnen daam wyals gvasmevdnen, anu koloidurivercxli Cveulebrivi antiseptikia.istoriaSi isic cnobilia,rom omebSi koloiduri vercxlikasrebiT mihqondaT, radganicodnen, rom jariskacebs saWiroebisSemTxvevaSi daexmareboda.sxvaTa Soris, makedonelis jariskacebs,udabno rom gadaelaxaT,kasrebiT wyali mihqondaT, sadacvercxlis monetebi eyara._ maSin monetebi sufTa vercxlisganmzaddeboda. Tqven ko-loiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarsrogor iRebT?Tengo ZnelaZe:_ sufTa vercxls eleqtroqimiurimeTodebiT vamuSavebT dawyalSi vurevT. gamokvleva romCavatareT, am wyalma Tavisi Tvisebebisami wlis ganmavlobaSi ardakarga._ jandacvis saministros TumimarTeT, rom koloidur vercxlze,rogorc medikamentze, li-cenzia mogceT?_ saamisod orwliani klinikuricdebia saWiro, rac, minimum,300-dan 500 aTas dolaramde jdeba._ SegiZliaT, miTxraT, gar-egani da Sinagani Wrilobebisgarda koloiduri vercxli kidevromel daavadebebs kurnavs?_ magaliTad, kargi Sedegi aqvse. w. qaluri daavadebebis mkurnalobisas._ pacients koloidur vercxliswyalssamkurnalod Tqven un-8 N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comgripebi da virusebi ratom ar arsebobda?!~iSnavT?_ diax, axloblebsa da megobrebs._ ambobT, rom koloidurivercxliswyalioficialurmedikamentad ar iTvleba. Sesa-bamisad, roca mis gamoyenebasvinmes urCevT, es xom kanondar-Rvevaa?_ jandacvis saministroSigviTxres, SegiZliaT, daamzadoTda gayidoT, magram medikamenti arunda daarqvaTo. amitom „badi”,anu biologiurad aqtiuri danamatidavarqviT. sxvaTa Soris, dRes„badi” Zalian bevr produqts aweria.rac Seexeba daavadebebs, koloidurivercxlis wyalxsnarikargia gripis, virusebis, sokovanidaavadebebis, aseve meningitis samkurnalod.koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnaris miReba eqimis daniSnulimedikamentebis paraleluradSeiZleba da mas ukuCveneba argaaCnia.daviT CaCaniZe:_ axlaxan filtvebis anTebazedized orjer mqonda. am wyalxsnarisada Cemi sxva meTodebisgamoyenebiT, pirveli filtvebisanTebis dros, zustad erT kvira-Si fexze davdeqi da eqimebi gaocdnen,magram quCaSi gamosulsdaudevari adamiani Semxvda._ anu?_ gadamkocna, virusebiT gamtenada filtvebis anTeba xelmeoreddamemarTa. axlobelma antibiotikebimomitana, davlie, magramar miSvela. Tengos davureke,damexmare-meTqi. koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnari gamomigzavna dasam dReSi isev yvelaferi aalaga.saerTod, kargia, rom koloidurivercxli adamianma profilaqtikisTvisacmiiRos._ profilaqtikis mizniT dRe-Si ramdeni wyalxsnari unda dav-lio?_ diliT da saRamos TiTo-TiTo sufris kovzic sakmarisia,avadmyofobis dros ki Zlieridozaa saWiro, radgan organizmigaiwmindos._ batono Tengo, ucnauriferis saxe gaqvT. ratom?_ arian adamianebi, romlebicvercxls ver itanen. amas algiriahqvia._ anu Tqven vercxls veritanT?_ ara._ aba?_ koloiduri vercxli,rogorc giTxariT, Zalian kargiantiseptikia._ mere?_ losionebisa da odekolonebisgamoyeneba ar miyvars, radganTavidan kargi suni aqvs, magram merekani izeTeba. mokled, wverisgaparsvis Semdeg, yovel diliT,saxeze am wyalxsnars visxamdi.marTalia, axalgazrdobidan fotografivar, magram ver gaviTvaliswine,rom yvelafer amas, Sesa-Zloa, fotografiuli efeqti mohyoloda._ anu?_ vercxli rom „aRdgeba”,Savdeba. ai, swored es damemarTa._ nel-nela gaSavdiT Tu erT-baSad?_ nel-nela, anu vercxli kanqveSdamigrovda, Tan es mxolodsaxeze, Torem mTel sxeulze bavSviviTvardisferi kani maqvs._ ra amis pasuxia da, msoflio`sxvaTa Soris, `qaTmis gripze~ cda Cavatare da koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnars, daaxloebiT, xuTidan aT wamamde dasWirda, rom es virusimoekla. igive SemiZlia `Roris gripzec~ vTqva, magram yvelaferi es romgaiges, daskvna ar momces~panikaSia _ jer „Roris gripis”gveSinoda, axla ki koronavirusigvemuqreba. arsebobs mosazreba,rom es virusebi xelovnuradaaSeqmnili. batonebo, am TeoriasiziarebT?daviT CaCaniZe:_ piradad me viziareb._ virusebis xelovnurad Seqm-nis mizani ra unda iyos?Tengo ZnelaZe:_ meti wamali rom gaiyidos.daviT CaCaniZe:_ Cven, yvelani, sacdeli kurdRlebiviTvarT._ anu?_ arsebobs msoflio mmarTveloba._ es ra SuaSia?_ magaliTad, C hepatitismkurnaloba 250 aTasi dolari Tuevro jdeba. pirdapir vTqvaT:TiTqmis yoveli meore adamianiukve C hepatitiTaa daavadebuli.saqarTvelo da qarTveli xalxiise vis uyvars, rom amxela fulisaqarTveloze daxarjos?_ „fulis daxarjvaSi” C hepa-titis programas gulisxmobT?_ diax._ Tqvens msjelobaSi, batonodaviT, logika aris, magram faq-tia: am programis wyalobiT, Chepatitisgan Zalian bevri gani-kurna._ C hepatitisgan SeiZleba, ganikurna,magram vinmem icis, ampreparatiT gankurnebas ra mohyveba?nebismier adamians, romelmacmkurnalobis es kursi gaiara,hkiTxeT, ra ukuCvenebebi aReniSnebaT._ zogadad, yvela preparatiasea _ erT daavadebas rom kur-navs, uaryofiTad sxva ramezemoqmedebs._ diax, magram am preparatebsCvenze nu cdian!_ e. i., ambobT, rom samedicinopreparatebs ar vendoT da ko-loiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarismoxmarebaze gadavideT?_ ara, amas ar vambob, Tumcasaukuneebia, koloiduri vercxlissamkurnalo Tvisebebi cnobilia.`Cveni bebiebi Cveulebriv wyalSi vercxlis kovzsdebdnen da am wyals gvasmevdnen, anukoloiduri vercxli Cveulebrivi antiseptikia~Tengo ZnelaZe:_ Cemi informaciiT, aSS-is nacionalurisamedicino asociaciisrekomendaciiT, aSS-Si, bavSvidaibadeba Tu ara, TvalSi koloidurvercxls awveTeben, radgangemoidaluri infeqciebi ar ganuviTardes.Cemive informaciiT, espraqtika aSS-Si as welze metia,arsebobs, Tumca amis Sesaxeb arsadweria. is amerikeli eqimi, we-Ran rom vaxsene, ambobs, koloidurivercxlis medicinaSi danergvaswored farmamafias ar awyobso._ e. i., amtkicebT, rom yvelaukurnebeli daavadeba xe-lovnuradaa Seqmnili?daviT CaCaniZe:_ nebismieri ara, magram Zalianbevri _ diax, xelovnuradaa Seqmnili._ magaliTad?_ igive es virusebi 2000 wlidangavrcelda da manamde ratom ariyo?Tengo ZnelaZe:_ sxvaTa Soris, „qaTmis gripze”cda Cavatare da koloiduri vercxliswyalxsnars, daaxloebiT,xuTidan aT wamamde dasWirda, romes virusi moekla. igive SemiZlia„Roris gripzec” vTqva, magramyvelaferi es rom gaiges, daskvnaar momces.daviT CaCaniZe:_ koloiduri vercxli, bolosda bolos, oqrosfer stafilokokskurnavs!Tengo ZnelaZe:_ oqrosferi stafilokoki,romelic saSineli daavadebaa, Cemimegobris cols xuTi weli awuxebdada antibiotikebiT mkurnalobdnen,magram antibiotiki sokosaCens da amitom imdens veraZlevdnen, rom oqrosferi stafilokokibolomde mospobiliyo.bolos, koloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarisdaleva daiwyo. daaxloebiT,rva Tve svamda da Svidirvaweli iqneba, eqimTan aRar misula._ ratom?_ oqrosferi stafilokokisxsenebac aRar aqvs._ anu ganikurna?_ diax._ koloiduri vercxli sim-sivnesac Svelis?_ amaze verafers getyviT.daviT CaCaniZe:_ SemiZlia, eqsperimenti axlaveCavataro: xels gaviWri, Wriloba-ze koloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarsdavisxam da Tqveni TvaliTnaxavT, sisxldena ramden xanSi Se-Cerdeba da ramden xanSi Sexorcdeba._ ise, koloidur vercxlsromelime qimiuri preparati TuSeicavs?Tengo ZnelaZe:_ ruseTis televiziiT kbilispastisa Tu saxis kremebis uamravireklama gadis, sadac pirdapirnaTqvamia, vercxls Seicavso.daviT CaCaniZe:_ Cven qarTvelebi varT._ ukacravad, es ra SuaSia?_ SuaSi ki ara, TavSia._ mainc?_ winaswarmetyvelebs sakuTarqveyanaSi ar aRiareben._ anu saubari iqiTken migyavT,rom Tqven, rogorc mecnierebsada gamomgoneblebs, saqarTvelo-Si ar gafaseben?_ diax._ Tu asea, maSin romelimeucxo qveyanas mimarTeT da Tqve-ni gamogoneba-aRmoCenis SesaxebauwyeT._ mimarTuli gvaqvs, magramundaT, Cvengan yvelaferi kapikebadiyidon, mere lamazad Sefu-Ton da ise gayidon, rogorcamerikuli an evropuli brendi._ mokled, Tqveni saubriTSTabeWdileba meqmneba, rom, ma-galiTad, gaciebis sawinaaRmdegopreparatebi blefia da metiaraferi, ara?_ diax.Tengo ZnelaZe:_ Tu gaxsovT, erTxans Zalianmoduri iyo e. w. gasaxdomi preparatebi,romelic 200 dolaric kiRirda, magram am preparatebiTgamxdari adamiani ar minaxavs, anugripis sawinaaRmdego preparatebicswored aseTebia. yvelaferamas sjobia, adamianma dReSi asiorasigrami TeTri kombostosmwnili miirTvas an am mwnilis wvenidalios, romelic imaze met cevitamins Seicavs, vidre es gripissawinaaRmdego medikamentebi.daviT CaCaniZe:_ gaiZaxian, „Roris gripi”,„qaTmis gripio”, _ Rorebi da qaTmebiadrec iyvnen, magram es gripebiratom ar arsebobda? ai, sworedesec mowmobs, rom aRniSnulivirusebi xelovnuradaa Seqmnili.Tengo ZnelaZe:_ saxelsa da gvars ar vityvi,magram erTi Cemi Zveli nacnobiurologiis konkretul centrSimuSaobs. qalbatonebSi erT-erTiyvelaze gavrcelebuli daavadebacistitia. hoda, am Cems nacnobskoloiduri vercxlis wyalxsnarimivutane da vuTxari, Tu SegiZlia,gamoscade-meTqi. damTanxmda, TumcamkiTxa, rame garTuleba xomar eqnebao? mivuge, Tu rame garTulebamoyveba, Tavs moviklav-me-Tqi. mokled, ori kviris mere klinikaSiisev mivedi da meubnebian,saocari Sedegebi gvaqvs _ pacientiabsoluturad gamojanmrTelda,magram ojaxi myavs da am wyalxsnarsver gamoviyenebo. sxvaTaSoris, saqarTveloSi cistitismkurnaloba, minimum, 500 larijdeba, Tan eqvsi Tvis mere pacientiisev samkurnaloa...N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.9
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