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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.commixeil ramiSvilze SesaZloa,iqidan gamomdinare, rom wmin-giorgi abaSiZeda sinodis Suamdgomloba arsebobda,optimistebi imedovnebdnen,rom salome zurabiSvili saSobaod dekanoz giorgi ma-malaZes Seiwyalebda. am molodins isic amyarebda, rom patim-robaSi myofi sasuliero piris janmrTelobis mdgomareobaukiduresad mZimea. magram mimdinare wlis 6 ianvars, anu Sobiswina dRes, „dafrangulma qalbatonma”, sagangebo brifingigamarTa da gvamcno, rom Sorena TeTruaSvilis mkvlelo-bis momzadebis mcdelobisTvis msjavrdebul dekanozs ar iw-yalebda. sxvaTa Soris, am sagangebo brifingze zurabiSvilsTeTruaSvili ar uxsenebia da isev is narativi gaimeora, romdekanoz mamalaZis daWeriT TiTqos qveyana did ubedurebas,anu patriarqis mkvlelobas gadaurCa.„samwuxarod, saqmis politizebam,miT umetes maSin, roca dana-Saulis maxasiaTeblebi TavisTavadiwvevs mZafr reaqciebs; politikosebisaTu sasuliero pirebismier winaswar gakeTebulmamkveTrma gancxadebebma ar Seuwyoxeli gadawyvetilebis miRebisprocess. iseT process, romelicsimSvidesa da yovelgvari emociebisgandaclas moiTxovs. bolomdemovismine advokatebis argumentebi,detalurad gavecani sinodisSuamdgomlobas da miviRegadawyvetileba, romelzedacmTlianad viReb pasuxismgeblobas.es gadawyvetileba, pirvel rig-Si, samarTlianobis principsefuZneba. ver movnaxe argumenti,miT umetes, Sewyalebis kriteriumebisgamkacrebis pirobebSi,roca bevri msjavrdebulis saqmeganxiluli ver iqneboda, ratomunda daSvebuliyo gamonaklisidekanoz giorgi mamalaZis saqmeze.es gadawyvetileba efuZneba asevesazogadoebrivi simSvidis uzrunvelyofas,rameTu saqarTvelosmosaxleobis yvelaze didi nawiliaseTi danaSaulis Sewyalebas vergaigebs da ver gaiazrebs.dRes Cveni dayofa, dapirispirebasafrTxes Seuqmnis Cvenisaxelmwifos momavals”, _ ganacxadabrifingze zurabiSvilma.mamalaZis advokati mixeil ramiSvlizurabiSvilis argumentebs,bunebrivia, ar iziarebs da ambobs,rom sasuliero piris arSewyalebiTqveynis mTavarsardalmaerTgvari vali gadaixada.amas garda, mixeil ramiSvili„qronika+~-sTan skandalur gancxadebasacakeTebs. kerZod, uflebadamcveliar gamoricxavs, rommis winaaRmdeg sisxlis samarTlebrividevna daiwyos.Cveni respondenti gviyveba,rom, Tavis droze, umaRlesi sasulieropirebi mis anaTemaze gadacemasacgegmavdnen, magram, sabolood,erT-erTi meufis rCeviT,am gadawyvetilebis miReba gadaifiqres.yovelive amis garda mixeilramiSvili, „qronika+~-sTan eqsk-luziur interviuSi, „cianidissaqmis” aqamde ucnob detalebzecsaubrobs:_ batono mixeil, marTalia, amTemaze bevri iTqva da daiwera,magram amis miuxedavad, prezidentismier dekanoz mamalaZis ar-Sewyaleba, vfiqrob, mainc aqtualuria,miT umetes, rom patim-robaSi myofi sasuliero pirisSewyalebaze sinodis Suamdgom-lobac arsebobda. mokled, axla,roca emociebi met-naklebad damcxralia,Tqveni azriT, ra moxda,zurabiSvilma da aseve sapa-triarqom ratom „dagvaspoil-era”?_ dekanoz mamalaZesTan dakav-SirebiT is moxda, rac sapatriarqoSimyof pirebs surdaT._ „sapatriarqoSi myof pireb-Si”, konkretulad, vis gulisx-mobT?_ Sorenasa da mis jgufs. maTimoTxovnaa, rom dekanozi Tavisuflebazear gamovides._ Sewyalebis Suamdgomlobasinodma daayena. sinods patriar-qi xelmZRvanelobs. e. i., Sorenamda misma jgufma uwmindesi „gada-agdes”?_ Suamdgomloba imdenad formaluriiyo, rom TviT sinodisumravlesobamac ar icoda, am Suamdgomlobazera reagireba moxda.amitom winaswar ambobdnen, ai, dekanozixom Seiwyaleso, magram masSemdeg, rac gaiges, rom prezidentmadekanozi ar Seiwyala, meufeebmaTqves, davinteresdebiT, ramoxdao. mokled, aq „gadagdebaze”ki ara, imazea saubari, rom am Suamdgomlobasformaluri saxehqonda da undodaT, amiT xalxisTviseTqvaT, ai, am saqmiT davinteresdiTo._ davakonkretoT: sinodisSuamdgomloba xalxze iyo gaTv-lili Tu mas ufro meufe petresdaSoSminebis saxe hqonda, anu si-nodma es Suamdgomloba manamdemiiRo, vidre is cnobili skanda-li moxdeboda? meufe petreserT-erTi mTavari moTxovna de-kanozis Sewyaleba iyo. hoda, xomSeiZleba, CavTvaloT, rom Suamdgomlobismizanic swored Wy-ondidis yofili mitropolitisgaCumeba iyo?_ ara, am SuamdgomlobiT meufepetres verc gaaCerebdnen da vercgaaCumebdnen, radgan dekanozissaqmis garda, meufes pretenziasxva bevr sakiTxze aqvs da, minimum,samarTlebriv Sefasebas iTxovsda imas cdilobs, rom raRacraRacebisaaSkaraoze gamovides._ CvenSi darCes da, raRacebissaaSkaraoze gamotanas TqvencapirebdiT. yovel SemTxvevaSi,gasuli wlis miwuruls daaanonseT,mxilebas viwyeb da „feisbu-qis” pirad gverdze skandalurmasalebs gamovaqveynebo, magram,jerjerobiT, araferi gamogiq-veynebiaT. ratom gadaifiqreT?_ ar gadamifiqrebia, ubralod,minda, sazogadoebas yvelaferiTanmimdevrulad da qronologi-mixeil ramiSvili:`sityvisgatexas arvapireb daimas, racvTqvi,bolomdeSevasruleb!~urad vanaxo, igive „cianidis saqmeSi”vin da ra formiT monawileobda.yvelafer amas cota drokidev sWirdeba, Torem im kategoriasar ganvekuTvnebi, rom gancxadebagavakeTo da mere, raRacisgamo, gadavifiqro. gadawyvetilebasarasodes vcvli xolme! sxva-Ta Soris, bevrma miTxra, amis gamo,SesaZloa, Seni sisxlis samarTlebrivipasuxismgeblobis sakiTxidadgeso. amas arc me gamovricxavda arc meSinia, radgan kanons arvarRvev, Tumca amaTTvis kanonisaerTod ar arsebobs._ ukacravad, ver mivxvdi,Tqveni sisxlis samarTlebrivipasuxismgebloba ratom undadadges?_ albaT, sazogadoebas axsovs,roca daxuruli sasamarTlodanSorena TeTruaSvilis, soso oxanaSvlisada sxva pirebis Cvenebebigasajarovda, prokuraturamsaqme aRZra, anu gamoZieba im wyaroseZebda, vinc sasamarTlodanes Cvenebebi gamoitana. maSin Cven,advokatebic davikiTxeT da amsaqmeSi CarTuli sxva pirebic._ e. i., arsebobs albaToba, romTqven winaaRmdeg SesaZloa, essaqme „gaacocxlon”?_ diax, SeiZleba, Tqvan, grifiT„saidumlo” iyo da gasajaroebaar SeiZlebodao, magram am saqmesgrifi „saidumlo” arasodes hqonia.sasamarTlo procesebi, romelickanoniT sajaroa, e. w. mesamepirebis interesebidan gamomdinare,ubralod, daxuruli iyo.amasTan, e. w. oqros mowme, iraklimamalaZe, romelic CemTvis „daJangulimowmea”, ase vTqvaT, dacvisqveS imyofeboda da aseT droskanoni iTvaliswinebs, rom procesidaixuros, Torem vimeoreb:„cianidis saqme” grifiT „saidumlo”ar aris! dRes samarTlebrivigadawyvetilebebi ise miiReba, romyvelaferi es samarTlebriv arealsmTlianad gacilebulia daaqedan gamomdinare, ar gamikvirdeba,saqme Cemzec rom aRZran, magramamis miuxedavad, sityvis gatexasar vapireb da imas, racvTqvi, bolomde Sevasruleb!`Tu prezidenti saqmes gaecno, maSinsainteresoa, ratom ganacxada, patriarqisgadarCena moxdao? dalocviliSvilo, dekanozssasuliero piris mkvlelobis mcdelobazebrali saerTod ar aqvs wayenebuli da SorenaTeTruaSvili sasuliero piri rodidan gaxda?prezidenti `cianidis saqmes~ araTu gascnobia,aramed masze warmodgenac ar aqvs!~_ batono mixeil, kargia, sity-vas yovelTvis rom asrulebT,magram mainc frTxilad iyaviT!ise, prezidentma zurabiSvilma,Tavis droze, ganacxada, giorgimamalaZe rom Semewyalebina, amasSeiZleba, samoqalaqo dapirispi-reba moyolodao. es fraza zurabiSvilma„haerze” Tqva Tu, Tqve-ni azriT, rame miniSneba gaakeTa?_ zurabiSvilis es gancxadebagonivrulobas absoluturad gascda!es iyo mcdeloba, rom realurisaqme gadafaruliyo da argamoCeniliyo, yvelafer amis ukanvin dgas, anu realurad Tu ratomar Seiwyales dekanozi!sazogadoebaSi dapirispirebaras unda moyves? Tu adamians rameiseTi aqvs, rasac SeiZleba, dapirispirebamoyves, ra mniSvnelobaaqvs, is cixeSi iqneba Tu Tavisuflebaze?ise, dapirispireba Sei-Zleba, gardacvlilma adamianmacgamoiwvios! mokled, zurabiSvilisgancxadeba absurdi da realobisgadafarvis mcdeloba iyo dameti araferi!aqve, davamateb: Tu prezidentisaqmes gaecno, maSin sainteresoa,ratom ganacxada, patriarqisgadarCena moxdao? dalocviliSvilo,dekanozs sasuliero pirismkvlelobis mcdelobaze bralisaerTod ar aqvs wayenebuli daSorena TeTruaSvili sasulieropiri rodidan gaxda? prezidenti„cianidis saqmes” araTu gascnobia,aramed masze warmodgenac araqvs!_ batono mixeil, Tqvens xelTarsebuli informaciiT, Tqvenzesaqmis aRZvra Sorena TeTruaSvilisinteresSi Sedis, meufe iakobisTu sxva sasuliero ierarqe-bis?_ Cemze saqmis aRZvra mxolodsasuliero ki ara, saero pirebisinteresebSia!_ amas ris safuZvelze am-bobT?_ roca „cianidis saqme” mimdinareobda,CemTan Jurnalistebimovidnen da miTxres, sapatriarqoSiramdenime mRvdelmTavariSeikriba da apirebdnen, TqvenwinaaRmdeg umaRlesi saeklesiosasjeli gamoetanaTo. simarTle2222 N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.comsisxlis samarTlebrivi devna daiwyos?!giTxraT, gamikvirda, radgan umaRlesisaeklesio sasjeli marTlmadideblobisCamorTmevasada anaTemaze gadacemas niSnavs.maxsovs, SabaTi dRe iyo. JurnalistebmaCem Tvalwin darekes daikiTxes, _ ramiSvilisTvis umaRlesisasjelis dadebas apirebdiTTu arao? upasuxes, _ ki, eg sakiTxiidga, magram erT-erTi meufisrCeviT, am etapze, Tavi Sevikave-To. es pasuxi Cemi yuriT movismineda gakvirvebuli davrCi!_ batono mixeil, eklesia an-aTemaze Tqven gadacemas rodisapirebda?_ ai, roca „cianidis saqmis”winaswari gamoZieba mimdinareobda._ maSin gasagebia, magram de-kanozi ukve msjavrdebulia, anugamoZieba dasrulebulia daTqven safrTxes ratomRa war-moadgenT?_ sazogadoebisTvis yvelafericnobili ar aris da maT aqvT berketi,rom maT mier gavrcelebulmainformaciam xalxze, garkveulwilad,imoqmedos. ai, magaliTad,Tavis droze, 8 marts, anu sinodissxdomis wina dRes, prokuraturamdaCexili videokadrebispecialurad gaavrcela, raTa mxolodsazogadoebaze ki ara, wmindasinodis wevrebzec garkveulizegavlena moexdina. xalxs kiTxvisniSnebi axlac aqvs, rac ar awyobT,anu magaTi damsaxurebiT,eklesiis avtoriteti isedac Seryeulia.umjobesia, es gaugebrobaki ara, Sida samzareulo da sibin-Zure Tavad daalagon, magram Sidada gare mtrebi eklesias mizanmimarTuladangreven!_ gare mteri gasagebia, romruseTia, magram „Sida mterSi” visgulisxmobT, mixeil batono? aqvegkiTxavT: is saero pirebi, rom-lebic Tqven gebrZvian, moqmedimaRalCinosnebi arian Tu yo-filebi?_ am adamianebs gavlena aqvT.iciT, ra xdeba? _ CemTvis yvelazegulsatkeni isaa, rom saeklesiocxovreba lamis sajaro dasabiujeto samsaxuri gaxda!_ anu?_ kargi mRvdlebi RmerTmagvimravlos, magram garkveul mRvdelmTavrebTankontaqti mqonda,Tumca urTierToba saerTodgawyvites._ visze ambobT?_ andria iqneba Tu Sio... andriajaRmaiZe ki pirdapir ambobs, romTiTqos eklesiis mtrebi varT.swored egeni warmoadgenen imZalas, romelic gare mtrebis moqmedebasxels uwyoben._ batono mixeil, yvelafersTavisi saxeli davarqvaT da pir-dapir vTqvaT: dekanozi mamalaZemeufe dimitrimac xom ar gawira?_ ra Tqma unda, gawira._ anu meufe sakuTar tyavsgaufrTxilda?_ naTqvamia, jer Tavo da Tavoda mere _ sxvao, Torem roca sulierimama xar, ar SeiZleba, erTwuTas erTs ambobde, meore wuTas_ meores. Sen mier arCeuli cxovrebisgzidan gamomdinare gevaleba,rom rac unda mware da`sapatriarqoSi arsebul daZabulobas sxva kanonmdeblobiT ver daaregulireb,Torem isedac naTelia da iTqva kidec, rom dekanozi Sorena TeTruaSvilisa daiakobis patimaria!~mtkivneuli iyos, mxolod da mxolodsimarTle Tqva, magram amaTyvelanairi SegrZneba dakarguliaqvT da, diax, dekanozi gawires!sxvaTa Soris, Zalian didimcdelobebi iyo da amas viRacisgangagonils ar geubnebiT._ ras gulisxmobT?_ jer dekanozis Zmis, TornikesTanmimarTebiT iyo... mere andriajaRmaiZe cdilobda, romdekanozs gancxadeba daewera, _Sorena, iakobi da, saerTod, sapatriarqodanaravinaa SuaSio, magrames gancxadeba ki ara, aRiarebaiqneboda. mere mec Semxvda daandria meubneboda, Tu amas gaakeTebs,mere Cven prezidentTanvuSuamdgomlebTo, magram gamikvirdada vuTxari, _ ra sisulelesmeubnebi, es aRiareba iqneba daamis Semdeg ityviT, ai, xom aRiareda axla oxanaSvils daade xelio.Tavidan swored amas sTxovdnen.mokled, am e. w. gancxadebis Semdegetyodnen, ai, Sen xom aRiareda prezidentTan rekomendaciasveRar gagikeTebTo. sxvaTa Soris,andrias sionSi rom Sevxvdi, SendobisdRe iyo... andria jaRmaiZe,Tu kurTxeva ar aqvs, Tavisi iniciativiT,mgoni, arc loculobs!erTi sityviT, rac daavales, imazemelaparaka da Sesabamisi pasuxicmiiRo!_ batono mixeil, mgoni, aravissjera, rom dekanozi vinmes mowamamvlas gegmavda, magram mTel amambavSi erTi kiTxvis niSania, anupatriarqi samkurnalod kargaxnis wasuli iyo, giorgi mamal-aZem germaniaSi wasvla ratomgadawyvita?_ am kiTxvaze pasuxi Zalianmartivia, anu patriarqs aseTiwesi hqonia _ roca ucxoeTSi midis,yovelTvis Tan miaqvs eklesiaSiCamosxmuli saukeTeso Rvino,magram radgan maSin germania-Si gadayvana saswrafod moxda,Rvino ver waiRo da dekanozssTxoves, ori yuTi Rvino Caetana.amas garda, dacvis biWebi finansuraduzrunvelyofilebi ar iyvnenda daxmareba sTxoves. dekanozmakrediti swored amitom aiRo._ SeiZleba, dacvis biWebma finansuridaxmareba sTxoves, ma-`Tavis droze, 8 marts, anu sinodis sxdomiswina dRes, prokuraturam daCexilivideokadrebi specialurad gaavrcela, raTamxolod sazogadoebaze ki ara, wminda sinodiswevrebzec garkveuli zegavlena moexdina. xalxskiTxvis niSnebi axlac aqvs, rac ar awyobT, anumagaTi damsaxurebiT, eklesiis avtoritetiisedac Seryeulia. umjobesia, es gaugebroba kiara, Sida samzareulo da sibinZure Tavaddaalagon, magram Sida da gare mtrebieklesias mizanmimarTulad angreven!~gram 21-e saukunea da dekanozsSeeZlo, eZlo, germaniaSi ki ar wasuli-yo, aramed fuli gadaericxa._ gasagebia, magram wasvla maincuwevda _ Rvinos fostiT xom argaagzavnida? amas Tavi rom davaneboT,dekanozi sapatriarqosklinikis direqtori iyo da protokoliTevaleboda, rom iq, germaniaSiyofiliyo._ Tu protokoliT evaleboda,dekanozi germaniaSi patri-arqTan erTad ratom ar wavida?_ Tavidan yvela ar wayva. iakobida igive Teodorec mere Cavidnen_ xom giTxariT, rom patriarqisgermaniaSi gadayvana dauyovneblivmoxda da yvela xom vergaiqceoda, saqmeebi aqac xom hqondaT?_ ise, am sami wlis dinamikagvaCvenebs, rom dekanozis saqmeperiodulad aqtiurdeba. amismizezi politikuri koniunqturaxom araa?_ cxovrebiseuli politikacarsebobs da partiulic, magram amsaqmes verasodes veraferi gadafaravs!_ geTanxmebiT, magram „ciani-dis saqmeze” mudmiv pedalirebasarc opozicia akeTebs. arada, TuusamarTlobazea saubari, igivesaerTaSoriso asparezze, viqrob,swored dekanozis qeisis wamowevada imaze pedalireba unda xdebodes,rom dekanozi politpati-maria. vcdebi?_ mesmis, magram iciT, samarTlebrivadrogori situaciaa?_ rogori?_ sxvebi saero pirebi arian. amSemTxvevaSi ki saqme sxva ramesTangvaqvs._ rasTan?_ es garkveuli saxis Suri damtrobaa. sapatriarqoSi arsebuldaZabulobas sxva kanonmdeblobiTver daaregulireb, Toremisedac naTelia da iTqva kidec,rom dekanozi Sorena TeTruaSvilisada iakobis patimaria!_ sapatriarqos Sida mtrobagasagebia, magram mamalaZe saerosasamarTlom gaasamarTla da Sesabamisad,politpatimris statu-si ar miesadageba?_ saero sasamarTlo Zalianbevrs asamarTlebs, magram rocamkvlelobis momzadebazea saubari,adamiani politpatimrad verCaiTvleba._ ki batono, magram Tqveni,rogorc iuristisa da politiko-sis SefasebiT, im taqtikiT, ro-melic opozicias aqvs arCeuli,sarTaSoriso asparezze „oc-nebas” mougebs?_ is gancxadebebi, romelicaSS-is kongressa da senatSi, aseveevrosabWoSi gakeTda, imaze mianiSnebs,rom Cvens partniorebs saqarTvelosxelisuflebaze Zaliannegatiuri Sexeduleba aqvT. eski opoziciis qmedebaSi kargad undaaisaxos, magram opoziciaSi azrTasxvadasxvaobaa, rac gayofasada gamijvnas ar unda niSnavdes._ ra azrTa sxvadasxvaobasgulisxmobT?_ garkveuli pirebis mimarTarsebobs mosazreba, rom rusuliinteresebis gamtareblebi arian._ es mosazreba mTlad usafuZ-vlo ar aris da swored amitomTqveni partia _ „kanoni da samar-Tali” _ opozicis e. w. sakoor-dinacio sabWos gaemijna._ diax, vici._ batono mixeil, es gadawyvetilebaswori iyo Tu aras-wori?_ saerTod, mimaCnia, rom koaliciaSiyvela Tanaswori da Tanabariunda iyos. Sesabamisad, mniSvnelobaarc imas unda hqondes, romelimepartia axalia Tu Zveli._ ra miniSnebas akeTebT?_ iyo garkveuli sakiTxebi,romelic ise wydeboda, rom politikurieTika irRveoda, amiT kidiskomforti iqmneboda. ar Sei-Zleba, garkveuli periodi vinmesgverdiT dgoma dividendebis momtaniiyos, Semdeg ki aradamsaxurebulipozicia daiWiro. erTisityviT, gamosasworebeli da er-Tad gasakeTebeli Zalian bevria.vimedovneb, rom garkveul sakiTxebzeSigniTve Camoyalibdebian daurTierTobas ufro daaregulireben.saerTod, ormagi standartebiTmoqmedeba, miT umetes,politikaSi, ar SeiZleba! politikagarkveuli pirebis ki ara, xalxisnebas unda asaxavdes!_ batono mixeil, saubris bo-los, miTxariT, am droisTvisdekanoz mamalaZis mdgomareobarogoria?_ Zalian mZime._ advokatebi xom ar apirebT,rom sasuliero piris SewyalebisTxovniT kidev mimarToT?_ kanonis Tanaxmad, SewyalebazemimarTva eqvsi Tvis Semdeg Sei-Zleba, magram ar mgonia, es nabijigadavdgaT._ ratom?_ pirdapiri moTxovna aqvs, romdekanozi ar Seiwyalos. amiT salomevals ixdis._ vals vis uxdis?_ prezidenti rom gaxda, es sapatriarqodangamomdinarec iyo,anu bevri meufe agitatoriviTgamodis da ambionidan, qadagebismagivrad, politikaze, ruseTzelaparakobs da leqciebs atarebs.aqedan gamomdinare vambob,salomem vali gaistumra-meTqi.ufro sworad, mudmivad valSiiqneba da dekanozi arasodes undaSeiwyalos!N3 (305) 4.02-10.02.2020 w.23
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