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mis mravalferovnebaSia~
riozulad aris Sesacvleli
qonebrivi deklaraciebis Sevsebis
wesi. Cinosnebis didi nawili
qonebriv deklaraciaSi Tavis
qonebas srulad ar miuTiTebs.
mere roca amouqeqaven, rom
qoneba damala, Tavs imarTleben
_ ra moxd,a SemeSalao.
_ am Secdomebis gamo Cinos-
nebs kanoni fuladi jarimis
gadaxdas akisrebs.
_ ramdenia es jarima _ 1.000
lari? 1.000 lari maTTvis
araferia. milionebs malaven da
siamovnebiT gadaixdian ramdenimeaTasian
jarimas. es jarimebi
unda gauqmdes da qonebis damalvaze
unda iyos sisxlis samarTlis
pasuxismgebloba. sapatimro
sasjelic ar iqneboda
aseTi adamianebisTvis bevri.
amis garda biznesmenebs unda
aekraZaloT parlamentSi Sesvla.
imiT imarTleben Tavs, rom
direqtorebad ar muSaoben sakuTar
kompaniebSi. es satirali
rom ar yofilyo, sasacilo iqneboda.
oqriaSvils direqtori
erqmeva Tu daraji, ra mniSvneloba
aqvs, isaa mTavari Tavis
biznesSi. politikaSi mosul biznesmenebs
tenderebSi unda
aekrZaloT monawileobis miReba.
biznesmenebi rac naklebad
Caerevian politikaSi, miT uke-
Tesi iqneba qveynisTvis. maTi
sazrunavia sakuTari keTildReoba
da ara saxelmwifo. maTTvis
raRac Semaferxebeli meqanizmebi
unda dawesdes. sasurveli
iqneboda, rom maTTvis saerTod
agvekrZala parlamentSi Sesvla.
_ isini saqarTvelos moqal-
aqeebi arian da ranairad unda
avukrZaloT arCevnebSi monaw-
ileoba? amis uflebas maT qar-
Tuli kanonmdebloba aZlevs.
_ arCevnebSi monawileobas
ver davuSliT, magram, sul
mcire, tenderebSi monawileoba
mainc unda avukrZaloT. makraxiZis,
CoCelisa da oqriaSvilis
msgavs feodalebs ar unda Seva-
WmevinoT qveyana da misi biujeti.
isini xalxis gaRatakebis
xarjze gaxdnen milionerebi.
Cveni saxelmwifosTvis mcire da
saSualo biznesis xelSewyoba
unda iyos amosavali wertili.
maTTvis sagadasaxado SeRavaTebi
unda dawesdes. SesaZlebelia
gadasaxadebisgan srulad gan-
Tavisuflebac. mxolod ase Sev-
ZlebT, rom saqarTveloSi umu-
Sevrobis problema mogvardes.
_ mcire da saSualo biznesi
moagvarebs umuSevrobis prob-
lemas?
_ ra Tqma unda. imis nacvlad,
rom saSualo da mcire bizness
Seuwyon xeli, maT ebrZvian.
viRebT sul ufro gamsxvilebul
biznesebs da monopoliebs.
erTaderTi SemorCenili iyo
transporti da vaWroba, magram
amasac amsxvileben da kidev uamravi
adamiani darCeba samsaxurisa
da, Sesabamisad, sarCo-sabadeblis
gareSe.
_ zemoT Tqven TqviT, rom
zogierT politikoss isev aqvs
cduneba, qveyanas erTpirovnulad
marTavdeso. mixeil saakaS-
vils gulisxmobT? man gasul
kviras gaakeTa gancxadebebi da
amas didi ambebi mohyva. bevrs
N19 (321) 11.08-17.08.2020 w.
`me Tu mkiTxavT, mosamarTleebi ki ara,
prokurorebi da policiis ufrosebic unda
avirCioT. policiis ufrosebis arCevas
leiboristebi Riad vuWerT mxars. Cvens
mosazrebas sxva partiebic iziareben. imedi
maqvs, rom amas mTeli opozicia dauWers
mxars da arCevnebis Semdeg kanonSi saTanado
cvlilebasac SevitanT~
darCa STabeWdileba, rom is
kvlav erTpirovnulad apirebs
qveynis marTvas, Tu amis Sansi
miecema.
_ marto saakaSvils ara, ase-
Ti survili sxvebsac aqvT. Zalian
didi cdunebis winaSe dgebian
xolme politikosebi. mixeil
saakaSvilis gancxadebas rac Seexeba,
es an wamocdena iyo, an
sareklamo fraza da is, ZiriTadad,
„nacionaluri moZraobis”
amomrCevelze gaxldaT gaTvlili.
_ mesame prezidentis am ga-
ncxadebebs opoziciaSi ukmayo-
fileba mohyva. amis gamo ganxe-
Tqilebas xom ar unda velo-
doT?
_ ganxeTqilebaze saubari araa
da opoziciaSi iseTi araferi
`biznesmenebs unda aekraZaloT parlamentSi
Sesvla. imiT imarTleben Tavs, rom
direqtorebad ar muSaoben sakuTar kompaniebSi.
es satirali rom ar yofilyo, sasacilo
iqneboda. oqriaSvils direqtori erqmeva Tu
daraji, ra mniSvneloba aqvs, isaa mTavari Tavis
biznesSi. politikaSi mosul biznesmenebs
tenderebSi unda aekrZaloT monawileobis
miReba. biznesmenebi rac naklebad Caerevian
politikaSi, miT ukeTesi iqneba qveynisTvis~
xdeba, rom saqme aqamde mivides.
erTi rame aucileblad unda
aRiniSnos: Cveni erTobidan ra-
Rac arasasurveli molodinebi
Seiqmna.
_ ra arasasurveli molod-
inebi?
_ araswori molodini gauCnda
xalxs.
_ araswor molodinSi ras
gulisxmobT?
_ viRacebma CaTvales, rom
Cven varT erTi gundi da er-
Tiani saarCevno siiT vmonawileobT
arCevnebSi. realoba cota
sxvaa. arCevnebSi mravali opoziciuri
partia monawileobs.
Cven erTiani viyaviT im brZola-
Si, romelic am qveyanas ganvi-
Tarebis perspeqtivas uqadis.
didi da erToblivi brZolis
Semdeg mivaRwieT imas, rom arCevnebi
srulad proporciulTan
miaxloebuli sistemiT Catardeba.
es imas noSnavs, rom parlamentSi
bevri partia moxvdeba.
mravalpartiuli parlamenti ki
saqarTvelos winsvlasa da ganviTarebas
Seuwyobs xels. er-
Tian siaze da erT saarCevno
blokze Cven arasdros gvisaubria
da mikvirs, Tu ratom gaCnda
aseTi molodinebi? arc is
mesmis, Tu ratom ukvirs xalxs
is, rom Cven rig sakiTxebs sxvadasxvanairad
vuyurebT?
_ iseTi gansxvavebulebi
xarT, aravin elodeboda, rom
yvela sakiTxze erTi pozicia
geqnebodaT. Tumca imas ki
vfiqrobdiT, rom 30 maJori-
tarze mainc SeTanxmdebodiT.
_ Tavidan gvindoda, rom 30
saarCevno olqSi erTiani kandidati
gvyoloda. es ar gamovida.
maJoritarebTan dakavSirebiT
rom ver SevTanxmdiT, arc es
aris tragedia.
_ tragedia araa, magram
xalxs gaurkvevlobaSi agdebs.
_ ratom agdebs xalxs
gaurkvevlobaSi? es erTgvari
konkurenciis nawilia. aranair
problemas ar warmoadgens, Tu
yvela opoziciur partias
eyoleba sakuTari maJoritarobis
kandidati. pirvel turSi es
normaluri iqneba. meore turSi
mTeli opozicia opoziciur
kandidats dauWers mxars. aqedan
gamomdinare, gadamwyveti araa,
rom opozicias erTiani kandidatebi
hyavdes. yvelaferi meore
turSi gadawydeba.
_ xelisufleba pirvelive
turSi apirebs gamarjvebas.
_ isini Zveli saarCevno sistemis
datovebasac apirebdnen,
magram ar gamouvidaT. arc pirvel
turSi gamouvaT sasurveli
Sedegis gaformeba. iqneba meore
turi, sadac opozicia gaimarjvebs.
roca erTian kandidatebze
daviwyeT saubari, amomrCevels
araswori molodinebi gavu-
CineT. etyoba, saTanadod ver
avxseniT, ra iyo Cveni Canafiqri.
visac Cven gamo imedebi gaucruvda,
vetyvi, rom azrTa sxvadasxvaoba
ganxeTqilebas ar
niSnavs. arc isaa tragedia, rom
erTiani kandidatebi ar gvyavs.
mTavaria, rom urTierTTavdausxmelobis
SeTanxmeba gvqondes.
winasaarCevno periodSi er-
TmaneTs ar unda davesxaT Tavs.
sxva SemTxvevaSi yvelam unda ibrZolos
sakuTari xmebisTvis.
xelisuflebis damarcxeba aranairi
problema araa. axla yvelaferi
damokidebulia xalxze,
maJoritarobis kandidatebis
warsulsa da awmyozec.
_ am urTierTTavdausxmelo-
basac rom ver icavT?
_ me ver vityvi, rom erTmaneTs
vesxmiT Tavs.
_ aba, es ra aris?
_ kritika normaluri movlenaa.
mixaria, rom yvelas sxvadasxva
azri aqvs da isic kargia,
roca opozicias erTiani bloki
ar Seuqmnia. wiTel xazebs ar
vkveTT. opozicia erTmaneTis
mimarT aseTi koreqtuli arasdros
yofila da amaze mets verafers
vizamT.
_ win sami Tvea, moaxlovdes
arCevnebi da vnaxavT, rogori
urTierTkoreqtulebi iqnebiT.
_ gamoricxuli araferia. Sei-
Zleba, Zalian mwvaved gavakritikoT
erTmaneTi. piradad me
verc amaSi vxedav tragedias.
mTavaria, imaze metad ar davupirisprdeT
erTmaneTs, vidre
xelisuflebas davupirispirdebiT.
sxva mxriv, Tu kritika
jansaRia, is araTu misaRebi, aucilebelic
ki aris. amasTan, Zalian
mniSvnelovania konkurencia.
_ konkurencia kargia, magram
am SemTxvevaSi mTavari isaa,
rom erTian kandidatebze ver
SeTanxmdiT.
_ mere ra? Cemi azriT, araswori
iyo erTian kandidatebze
saubari. konkurencia sjobs.
rac meti kandidati eyoleba opozicias,
miT met xmebs davakargvinebT
xelisuflebas. erT
blokad gadaqceva gegmaSic ar
gvqonia, amitom nuravis gaucruvdeba
imedi.
_ rogorc vatyob, yvelaf-
ris miuxedavad, optimisturad
xarT ganwyobili.
_ ufro realisturad. yvelaferi
axla amomrCevlis xel-
Sia. asarCevi kandidatebi da
partiebi aris. Cveni Zala mravalferovnebaSia
da gvaqvs Sansi,
rom marTlac mravalpartiuli
parlamenti miviRoT.
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