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SaqaraSvilis saqmis gauxmaurebeli detalebi
19 wlis fexburTel giorgi
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ba, mcxeTaSi mdebare erT-erT
agarakze sufraze momxdar da-
pirispirebas ukavSirdeba. axalgazrda fexburTelis kvali
avtobanTan ikargeboda, sadac is sam megobarTan erTad
Tbilisidan gamoZaxebul taqsis elodeboda. maTan gaCerda
manqana, saidanac biWebi gadmovidnen da giorgis erT-erT
Tanamgzavrs fizikuri Seuracxyofa miayenes. dapirispireba
gaxda imis safuZveli, rom giorgi gaqceuliyo Tavis daRwe-
vis mizniT. rogorc Cans, es man ver moaxerxa. axalgazrda
fexburTelis gvami mdinare aragvSi aRmoaCines.
sagamoZiebo uwyebaSi miTiTebulia,
rom konfliqti gagrZelda
Tbilisi-senaki-leseliZis saavtomobilo
gzaze, mdinare aragvze
mdebare xidis siaxloves, ris Semdgomac
giorgi SaqaraSvilis kvali
daikarga, Tumca ar uTiTeben, iyo
Tu ara iq manqana da ramdeni. am
dromde ucnobia, hyavs Tu ara
gamoZiebas 19 wlis fexburTelis
gardacvalebaSi braldebuli an
braldebulebi? sajaro gancxadeba
amis Sesaxeb ar gakeTebula. am
etapze yvelaze saintereso aq eqspertizis
daskvna gaxlavT. ojaxis
moTxovniT, gamoZiebaSi CaerTo damoukidebeli
sasamarTlo eqspertizis
centri „veqtori”. paralelurad,
gamoZieba mediamac daiwyo
da Tavisi daskvna dado centr „empaTiis”
eqspertma galina kormuxinam.
„veqtorisa” da „empaTiis”
saeqsperto poziciebi ewinaaRmdegeba
erTmaneTs.
„qronika+~-s eqskluziurad esaubreba
„veqtoris” sasamarTlo-
samedicino eqsperti kaxa erisT-
avi:
_ batono kaxa, aq ikveTeba mTe-
li rigi sakiTxebi, romelic
winaaRmdegobaSi modis erTmaneT-
Tan. Tqven giorgi SaqaraSvilis
cxedarTan uSualo Sexeba gqon-
daT. swored Tqven, samxaraulis
eqspertebTan erTad, gamoikvlieT
cxedari da dadeT saeqsperto
daskvna.
_ Cven axalgazrda biWis cxedari
gamovikvlieT, meore mxares gvami
saerTod ar unaxavs da galina
karmuSina e. w. daskvnebi gamoitana
rusul enaze Targmnili eqspertizis
variantze dayrdnobiT.
_ magram wyalSi daxrCobis ver-
sias isini xom eTanxmebian?
_ diax, isinic eTanxmebian, rom
sikvdilis mizezi aris asfiqsia,
anu es pirovneba cocxali moxvda
wyalSi.
_ centr „empaTiis” eqspertis
poziciiT qala-fuZis motexilobis
damadasturebel niSnebad miiCneva
TvalbudeebSi sisxlCaqce-
va da Tavzurg-tvinis SemRvreva.
ratom aris es araswori?
_ zogierTma eqspertma miiCnia
orive TvalbudeSi sisxlCaqceva
qala-fuZis motexilobis utyuar
niSnad. erT-erT satelevizo gadacemaSi
am qalbatons dausves SekiTxva
qaTamaZesTan dakavSirebiT.
qaTamaZes aseve hqonda orive TvalbudeSi
sisxlCaqceva, magram ar
hqonda qala-fuZis motexiloba.
galina karmuSinas pasuxi
iyo, rom qaTamaZes erT
TvalbudeSi meti intensivobis
sisxlCaqceva
hqonda, vidre meore-
Sio da amitomac ar
aReniSneboda qala-fuZis
motexilobao. gesmiT?!
amas ityvis „pon-
Cikebis” gamyidvelic
ki. analogiurad, Tavzurgtvinis
siTxis Sem-
kaxa erisTavi
N19 (321) 11.08-17.08.2020 w.
aleko gejaZe
`Tuki 1,5-2 dRe, 28-30 graduss temperaturaze
cxedari iqneboda haerze, iseTi lpobiTi
procesebi ganviTardeboda, rom gvamis
amocnobac ki dadgeboda kiTxvis niSnis qveS~
Rvrevaze, lpobiTi procesebis
dros, veranairad ver darCeba es
siTxe gamWvirvale da absoluturad
aranair mizezobriv kaSirSi ar
aris qala-fuZis motexilobasTan.
_ gvamuri gaSeSebis diagnozi
rogor dasva?
_ fotoebiT. axla me Tqven gekiTxebiT:
Tu ar SeexeT cxedars
xelebiT, saxis kunTebs da a. S.
rogor unda daadgino mxolod
fotoebiT, gaSeSebulia Tu ara?
_ mrecxavis xelTaTmanebze ras
gvetyviT?
_ adamiani rom moxvdeba wyal-
Si, xelebze ewyeba kanis SenaoWeba
da moTeTro feris xdeba. magali-
Tad, xSirad Tu dagibaniaT xeli
da auzSi xangrZlivad yofilxarT,
TiTebi odnav SenaoWebuli geqnebaT.
magram mrecxavis xelebze es
aSkarad aris gamokveTili. gvams
wyalSi xangrZlivi yofnis dros
uviTardeba „sikvdilis xelTaTmanebi”.
karmuSina ambobs, rom
„sikvdilis xelTaTmanebi” viTardeba
2-4 saaTSio, maSin rodesac
mis ganviTarebas sWirdeba ramdenime
kvira. am qalma vadebze saer-
Tod ar unda ilaparakos, sircxvilia
ubralod. „sikvdilis xel-
TaTmani” _ es aris Sors wasuli
procesi cxedris wyalSi yofnis,
ra drosac kanis zedapiruli SenaoWebuli
Sre xelTaTmaniviT Zvreba
sxeuls. me Tu ar mendoba, ai-
Ros amerikuli an evropuli sasamarTlo
eqspertizis saxelmZRvanelo.
SaqaraSvils es ar hqonia.
_ maSasadame, kategoriulad ar
eTanxmebiT meore mxaris versias,
rom daRupuli dRe-naxevari
cocxali iyo ugono da komato-
zur mdgomareobaSi?
_ aranairad. rogor daveTanxmo,
rodesac gvamTan vimuSave da faqti
saxeze gvaqvs? dRe-naxevari
anda ori dRe cxedari rodesac
aris maRal temperaturaze haerze,
iq viTardeba lpobiTi procesebi.
elementaruli, amocnobis problema
dadgeboda. analogiuri procesebi
ganviTardeboda SaqaraSvilis
SemTxvevaSic.
_ maSasadame, wyalSi rom moxv-
da, SaqaraSvili cocxali iyo?
_ bunebrivia! es dadgenilia
ukve mikroskopuli da makroskopuli
kvleviT. wyali met-naklebad
civia da aman lpobiTi procesebis
intensiur ganviTarebas xeli SeuSala.
amis gamo sikvdilis mizezi
dadginda, Torem sikvdilis mizezsac
ver daadgenda Cveni jgufi da
samxaraulis eqspertebi. SaqaraSvili
3-4 dRe wyalSi iyo, romlis
drosac lpobiTi procesebi ki
daiwyo, magram ara intensiuri, rom
sul gaenadgurebina qsovilebi.
„qronika+~-s gauxmaurebel detalebze
esaubreba sasamarTlo-
samedicino eqsperti da damoukidebeli
sasamarTlo eqspertiz-
is centr „veqtoris” direqtori
aleko gejaZe:
_ rodesac galina karmuSina
pirvelad gamovida teleeTerSi,
man aRniSna, rom mas gadauTargmnes
mTlianad pirveli eqspertiza, sadac
dadgenilia sikvdilis mizezi,
rogorc asfiqsia wyalSi daxrCobiT.
eqspertizis am „gadaTargmnili”
versiiT, qalbatoni galina
calsaxad ganmartavs, rom gvams ar
aReniSneboda lpobiTi cvlilebebi
da mxolod imaze dayrdnobiT,
rom SemTxvevis adgilze gvamis
daTvalierebisas eqspertma miuTi-
Ta gvamuri gaSeSebis arsebobaze
yvela jgufis kunTebSi, ganmarta,
rom radganac ar hqonda lpoba,
xolo gaSeSeba gamoxatuli iyo
yvela kunTSi, amitom man sikvdilis
xandazmulobad gansazRvra ara
umetes 36 saaTisa. faqtobrivad,
karmuSinam gverdi auara lpobiTi
procesebis arsebobas da ganaviTara
arakvalificiuri da arakompetenturi
msjeloba sikvdilis xandazmulobaze.
es ki realobisgan
yvelanairad mowyvetilia.
_ ki magram, gadaTargm-
nil dokumentSi xom weria,
rom giorgi SaqaraSvilis
cxedars lpobiTi procesebi
aReniSneboda?
_ ki batono, oqmSi calsaxad
weria, rom iyo lpobiTi procesebi.
amavdroulad, ara marto oqm-
Si, aramed uSualod samxaraulis
eqspertizis biuroSi cxedris gamokvlevisas,
iqac calsaxad dafiqsirebulia
lpobiTi procesebi yovelgvari
gvamuri gaSeSebis gareSe.
minda mogaxsenoT, rom bunebaSi ar
arsebobs, gansakuTrebiT saqarTvelos
cxeli zafxulis pirobebSi,
iseTi movlena, rom 4 dRis ganmavlobaSi
wyalSi yofnisas cxedars
SenarCunebuli hqonoda gvamuri
gaSeSeba. amis Taobaze yvela teleeTerSi
vsaubrobdi. Tundac inga
grigoliasTan gadacemaSi vTxove
mas, rom karmuSina daesvaT Cem pirdapir,
an Tundac CarTuliyo „empaTiis”
ofisidan, imitom rom ar
minda, araprofesionalizmze zurgs
ukan vilaparako. ukve gadacemis
msvlelobisas, bolo momentSi,
mec da telemayurebelsac „empaTiis”
xelmZRvanelma karmuSinas saxeliT
uari gangvicxada eTerSi
CarTvaze.
_ raze mianiSnebT, rom es qal-
batoni erideba TqvenTan erTad
Ria teleeTerSi gamosvlas?
_ simarTle giTxraT, amaze
calsaxad pasuxi ar maqvs. faqtia,
rom CemTan pirispir dajdoma ar
unda. me arc imas gamovricxav, rom
SecdomaSi Seiyvanes, rogorc qarTuli
enis armcodne anda sxva vi-
TarebasTan gvaqvs saqme, razedac
pasuxi ar gamaCnia. lpobas adgili
hqonda rogorc SemTxvevis adgilze
gvamis aRmoCenisas, aseve prozeqturaSic
misi gakveTis proces-
Si.
_ Tu karmuSinas versiis mixed-
viT, araumetes 36 saaTisa iyo
cxedari
wyalSi, gamodis, rom man-
amde, Tundac, dRe-naxevari xmel-
eTze iyo?
_ misi azriT, diax, asea, rac
sruli absurdia, rameTu, Tuki 1,5-
2 dRe, 28-30 graduss temperaturaze
cxedari iqneboda haerze,
iseTi lpobiTi procesebi ganvi-
Cven axalgazrda biWis cxedari gamovikvlieT,
meore mxares gvami saerTod ar unaxavs da
galina karmuSina e. w. daskvnebi gamoitana
rusul enaze Targmnili eqspertizis
variantze dayrdnobiT~
Tardeboda, rom gvamis amocnobac
ki dadgeboda kiTxvis niSnis qveS.
_ Tuki wyalSi moxvedrili ar
iyo SaqaraSvilis cxedari, maSin
sad iyo?
_ maTi versiiT, SaqaraSvili iyo
cocxali, anu drois am manZilze
imyofeboda ugono komatozur
mdgomareobaSi.
_ es saidan daaskvnes?
_ maTi poziciiT, imis gamo, rom
giorgi SaqaraSvils hqonda orive
Tvalbudis sisxlnaJRenTebi Tvalis
sklerebSi sisxlCaqceviT,
amavdroulad SemRvreuli hqonda
Tav-zurgtvinis siTxe, e. i. unda
hqonoda qala-fuZis motexiloba,
rac aseve sruli absurdia. jer
erTi, Tavis tvinis detaluri makroskopuli
da mikroskopuli (histologiuri)
gamokvlevebiT aranair
travmul dazianebas Tavis tvin-
Si sisxlCaqcevebis an sxva saxiT
gvams ar aReniSneboda. qala-fuZis
motexiloba rom yofiliyo, es ise-
Ti mZime travmaa, rom yvela SemTxvevaSi
sisxlCaqcevebsa da dazianebebs
adgili unda hqonoda Tavis
tvinSi. aseve absurdia centr „empaTiis”
versia, rom ar Cautarda
gvams kompiuteruli tomografia
qala-fuZis motexilobis dasadgenad.
rac arsebobs sasamarTlosamedicino
eqspertizis praqtika,
ara marto saqarTveloSi, aramed
postsabWoTa sivrcisa da dasavle-
Tis civilizebul qveynebSi, qalafuZis
motexilobis dasadgenad
kompiuteruli tomografiis saWiroeba
arsad ar dgas. vinaidan qala-fuZis
motexilobis diagnostirebisas
mTlianad xdeba Tavis tvinis
qalas sarqvelidan amoReba,
Semdeg e. w. magari garsi xeliT
scildeba qalas fuZes, Sedegad,
rogorc sarke, ise SiSvldeba
qalas fuZe. am dros Tundac mciredi
bzarovani motexilobac ki
aSkarad Cans.
_ giorgi SaqaraSvilis fexsacmeli
sad aris, ratom ar iZebne-
ba?
_ bunebrivia, aq kiTxvis niSnebi
mec maqvs _ ar vici, ratom ar aqvs.
wyalma moaZro, winda ecva-arecva...
ki batono, am nawilSi, veTanxmebi.
anda zeda maisuri Tu perangi, rac
ecva, yvela Rili ratom iyo Sekruli?
aqac SeiZleba bevri varaudi
iyos _ zog samoss iseTi qanCi
aqvs, rom Rili kargad Sedis da
myarad fiqsirdeba.
_ wyalSi rogor moxvda axal-
gazrda biWi?
_ ra viTarebaSi moxvda wyalSi
SaqaraSvili, amis dadgena gamoZiebis
prerogativaa. am etapze tardeba
meore komisiuri sasamarTlosamedicino
eqspertiza, romelmac
unda gasces pasuxi sxva kiTxvebTan
erTad, Tu ra viTarebaSi SeeZlo,
ra matravmirebeli faqtorebis
zegavleniT SeiZleboda mieRo
dazianebebi giorgi SaqaraSvils.
kerZod, SeeZlo Tu ara dazianebebi
mieRo, magaliTad, xididan wyalSi
CavardniT, bilikze dagorebiT,
an asfaltirebul zedapize
dacemiT d a. S. amavdrould, Sei-
Zleboda Tu ara dazianebebi mie-
Ro xelketis CartymiT, muStis,
qvis da a. S. swored am da sxva sakiTxebze
eqspertTa komisia muSaobs
da am kiTxvebs gaecema pasuxi
kategorul anda savaraudo formatSi.
me ar minda gavuswro movlenebs
Segnebulad, rameTu gamo-
Ziebas xeli ar SevuSaloT, radgan
aRniSnuli informacia savsebiT
dasaSvebia, winaswar gamoiyenon
braldebulebis advokatebma Tavisi
dacvis qveS myofi pirebis
sasargeblod.
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