Minutes of Evidence p.1401-1509 - Parliament of Victoria

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R S. Grahn.mr Esq., J.P., COJltinued. 12th May 1883, 1494 50452. Have you secured a better price for your oats since the last alteration in the tariff?-Yes. 50453. To what extent ?-""\:Ve used to sell as low as 2s. Gel. a bushel some seasons. 50454. What do they range at now ?-Three shillings, on an average. 50455. Does that represent the amount of the increase in the duty, the additional Gel. a bushel ?-It assists materially. 5045G. The increase of duty was from Is. to 2s. a centil, was it not ?-Yes. 50457. Th>tt is about equal to 5d. a bushel on oats ?-Yes. 50458. Are we producing in the colony nearly a sufficient supply of oats to meet our own demand? I believe so, we are not far off it at any rat~. 50458. It has not reached the stage at which we export it, has it ?-.Ko, not quite. 50460. In a year or two, when the supply has slightly increased and it becomes an exportable commodity, will the duty then have any effect upon the price you will receive for it ?-No doubt, if we had an overpl{~s of it, but we have not that at the present time, we should have to send it elsewhere. 50461. Would not the price you obtain fot• that portion you export govern the price of the whole p1·ocluction ?-It may do to a certain extent. · 504cG 2. The same as it does with when t at the present time ? -Yes. 50463. Under those circumstances the duty would not be of any advantage t.o you '1--N o. 50464. This neighbourlwod is suitable for the growth of oats, is it not ?-Yes. 5046ti. About the most suitable in the colony ?-Yes, it is a moist climate. 5046 G. 'V e have heard a great deal about the quality of oats, the q
1495 50498. In what way ?-Something similar to the other cereals. 50499. But do not you realize the fact that it is in exactly the opposite position to all those other cereals. vYe have an enormous quantity of wheat, more than we want to use, which we 'Yant to export, and none of the other cereals have as yet reached that point at all ?-So far as Victoria is concerned, I ilo not think we have an abuncbnce of it. vVe im1'ort it from other districts. 50500. Have no1; t1bundance of what ?-Wheat. 50501. Yes, we have. None comes at all in except a little for seed, and so on, but we have 3,000,000 bushels to export ?-I did not know tlmt. I have not paid much attention to it, not growing it. 50502. As a matter of fact the price of wheat is here mled by the price growers get outside the colony ?-I do not pay much attention to that, not growing wheat. 50503. Personally you do not object to the removal of the duty upon wheat?-No. 50504. Might the duty upon potatoes be removed?-I clo not think so, New Zealand could swamp us in that as well as in the grains. 50505. Have you any alteration in the tariff to propose at all ?-I clo not think I have any alteration worth mentioning. 50506. There has been a great deal of evidence given to the Commission, and a great deal said in the press in relation to the question of malting in bond. Are you, as a grower of barley, opposed to that proposal or in favour of it ?-I am opposed to it. 50507. Will you state to the Commission upon what ground ?-We might as well allow the English barley to come in ns the malting in bond. I fail to see the clifterence that it would mnke. 50508. Are you under the impression that the proposal to allow Melbourne maltsters to malt in bond is for the purpose of disposing of the malt after it is made in the colony of Victoria ?-As long as it is disposed of in the colony. 50509. But are you under the impression that the proposal to nllow Melbourne maltsters to malt in bond is for the purpose of disposing of the malt after it is made in the colony of Victoria ?-Yes. 50510. It could not he possibly clone without paying the duty. The proposal to allow malting in bond is simply a proposal to allow the maltsters to h1ke in barley, say from New Zealand, malt it in bond, and export it again to either Sydney or Adelaide in the shape of malt, so as to be enabled to compete in the Sydney or Adelaide markets with the New Zealand maltsters. If a :Melbourne maltster attempted to put that malt on to the Melbourne market, and dispose of it in Victoria, made from foreign barley, before be could do that he would have to pay the duty just as if he had paid the duty before he turned it into malt? Of course that materially alters the case. Of course I should have no objection to that arrangement. 50511. By M;r. ~~olntyre.-How long have you been here ?-Twenty-five years. 50512. What area of land had you first when yon started here ?-Five hundred acres. 50513. You have steadily increasecl tl~at to 1,600 acres ?-Yes. 50514. What do you value yom land at ?-It is bard to say. Land is going up at such a rapid rate that we can hardly form an idea. 50515. At the present price ?-Some of it is worth a great deal more than the other. 50516. I am speaking about your own ?-Even my own is so widely scattered. 50517. What would he the average of it ?-Some of it is worth, at the present prices, about £30 an acre, other about £5. 50518. Then would it be too much to average it at £12 an acre ?-No, it is not. I would not let it go for that. · 50519. You have built that up out of your farming inclustry ?-Yes-no, not exactly out of'that, I might have ha.d a little money previous to that. 50520. I do not ~tsk so inquisitively as that. You started at 500 acres, and now you have property worth over £20,000. You s!ticl to the Chairman that the removal of the duty would affect you prejudicially, that is upon oats, that formerly you were receiving 2s. Gel. a bushel upon oats, and now you receive 3s. Did not you receive more than 3s. Gd. a bushel for oats long before there was any dnty on at all ?-Yes, we received 5s., but that was many years ago, when there was not much farming going on. 50521. It is a question of supply and demand. You bad not the stuff, and you were sure of a demand for it ?-Yes, hut we are sure of the stuft'now, we have the ground broken up. 50522. You say we have a sufficiency now in the colony to supply the demand ?-Of oat.s? 50523. Yes ?-Not quite. 50524. But you got more for oats before the dnty was on, was not that so ?-Many years ago. 50525. How many years ago ?-Ten or twenty years ago. 50526. Twenty years ago you were getting 20s. a bushel ?-I never saw that here. 50527. And ten years ago you got 5s. a bushel for oats ?-Yes. 50528. Was there any duty on them ?-No duty. 50529. Then the duty has not affected the matter at all, has it, in cereals ?-After that, of course, they fell so low if it had not been for the duty we would not have been growing oats at all. 50530. When the duty was on they we1·e very low ?-But it had not tn,ken effect then. 50531. You think it stopped the importation ?-To a great extent. 50532. Then if you are only getting 6d. a bushel more for your oats than yoll would have got if there were no duty on, who is paying that 6d. ?-I suppose those that purchase. 50533. The consumers pay it ?-Yes. . 50534. What extent of oat land is there in this neighbourhood here ?-I could not stty; it i,:; a broad question. 50535. Y on know the locality very well, being so long here. How many acres do you think are suitable for growing oats. Of course you have shown that some grow as low as :fifteen hnshels an acre aml some as high as 50 ?-Any ground snitahle to grow any other cereals is suitable for oats, for oats will grow upon much poorer grouml than barley or wheat will. . 50536. Some of the farms that you call best fmms produce rbuch more than other farms do, and you can tell how many acres of land in this neighbourhood are suitable for oat growing. You know, as a matter of fact, that not much land in the colony of Victoria is suitable for oats except such country as this ?-There may he 4,000 acres, but those 4,000 do not all grow oats. 1~. R, Grn.ba.m, Esq., J.l'., contnwed. 12th ntay 1883.
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1439 people in the country ?-I thin
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Page 49 and 50: 1449 duty th11t is upon fhinnels-is
Page 51 and 52: 1451 49028. But also the value?-Yes
Page 53 and 54: 1453 49088. Have you any reason to
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Page 57 and 58: 1457 49236. Has there been any fall
Page 59 and 60: 1459 49302. Have you tried Queensla
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Page 65 and 66: 1465 49494. Do you think you could
Page 67 and 68: 1467 4·9558. Youwoufd not be dispo
Page 69 and 70: 1469 49629. Where do you get your r
Page 71 and 72: 1471 49704. Approve of what ?-You t
Page 73 and 74: 1473 49786. Oats have not yet reach
Page 75 and 76: 1475 49854. Will you give us a case
Page 77 and 78: 1417 49922. What pTopoTtion does th
Page 79 and 80: 1479 49981. You think they should p
Page 81 and 82: 1481 John Rigby Non·is sworn and e
Page 83 and 84: 1483 50i 17. Are yon in the habit o
Page 85 and 86: 1485 50183. By JYir. Longmore.-Do y
Page 87 and 88: -14:8:7 50238. By 11£1·. Longmore
Page 89 and 90: 1489 .'i0314. Do you export to Sydn
Page 91 and 92: 1491 Henry Berry sworn and examinet
Page 93: ]493 50429. That being the case, an
Page 97 and 98: 1497 50578. What woulL1 you do for
Page 99 and 100: 1499 The Cftairrnan.-Quitc right. 5
Page 101 and 102: 1501 50689. Are you opposed to the
Page 103 and 104: 1503 50755. Thn.t leaves you 836 ac
Page 105 and 106: 1505 50807. Is that what you want t
Page 107 and 108: 1507 50881. At the present price of
Page 109: 1509 {)0950. Where were you living
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