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Minutes of Evidence p.1401-1509 - Parliament of Victoria

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1~ ... s. Gtabam,<br />

Esq., J.P.,<br />

conttnued,<br />

12th May 1883,<br />

1496<br />

50537. But they could grow oats ?-Yes, they are Euitable for oats.<br />

50538. And you think the duty should be continued for the purpose <strong>of</strong> continuing t.he production <strong>of</strong><br />

oats on this particul11r mea <strong>of</strong> land ?-Yes.<br />

50539. What do you mean by best farms ; is the best farm that which is manured and cultivated ?­<br />

·when I say best farms I mean the best soil.<br />

50540. Natural soil ?-Yes.<br />

50541. What does your own farm produce on the average. You say you cultivate sometimes as<br />

many as 400 acres ; do you produce oats principally ?-Oat.s, wheat, and barley, when I did do so_.<br />

50542. How many bushels <strong>of</strong> oats would your ground produce now-say upon the average. Would<br />

it be 45 bushels to the acre ?-The last two years mine averaged 60 bushels an acre; but the next two or<br />

three years it might be half that.<br />

50543. Would it be fair to take it at 40 bushels as an average ?-Not all round.<br />

50544. What would i.t be ?-Twenty-five perhaps.<br />

50545. That would be at 2s. 6d. per bushel, or say 3s. a bushel-£3 5s. per acre. You told the<br />

Chairman the cost <strong>of</strong> sowing and arranging the whole farming would be about 20s. an acre without the<br />

threshing, which would be 10s. an acre more, and that the straw would be 40s. an acre this year. Then<br />

the 40s. covers the whole expense you can possibly name in connexion with the keeping <strong>of</strong> the farm, and<br />

lOs. more than the cost, so that you get £a 3s. out <strong>of</strong> every acre, and 10s. beside, which is £3 13s. an acre<br />

pr<strong>of</strong>it ?-Yes ; but that is only an occasional time. In other years the straw may lie and rot ..<br />

50546. But in other years you may get more for straw than in this ?-No; I think this is an extremely<br />

high price.<br />

50547. Is not there a prospect <strong>of</strong> a good coming year ?-No; t.here would be too much hay and<br />

gmss down below, and then we get nothing for straw at all.<br />

50548. But even taking <strong>of</strong>f the straw you still show a pr<strong>of</strong>it <strong>of</strong> £1 13s. an acre ?-If we do not get<br />

a pr<strong>of</strong>it in some way, what is the good <strong>of</strong> farming?<br />

50549. ·what is the rent for a farm per acre, about here-a medium farm ?-A fortnight ago I heard<br />

one landlord refuse 30s. an acre rent for twelve months.<br />

50550. 'l'hat is a farm that would produce about 60 bushels <strong>of</strong> oats to the acre ?-Yes.<br />

50551. Then the Commission is to understand from you that provided the malting in bond is carried<br />

out on the principleJ> the Chairman has put, that is that it does not come into competition with the local<br />

barley, you have no objection to the malting in bond being allowed ?-I have no objection to malting in<br />

bond; but I think it ought to be <strong>Victoria</strong>n barley.<br />

50552. <strong>Victoria</strong>n barley cannot be malted in bond, it is only barley that comes from foreign parts<br />

that is dutiable, and therefore bonsled. Now, if that barley be imported and malted in bond, and then<br />

exported again-do you agree with that course ?-I do not agree with malting in bond at all; I do not<br />

consider it is right.<br />

50553. Y on said to the Chairman it was right if it dill not come into competition. If the duty<br />

were taken <strong>of</strong>f potatoes, do you mean to tell the Commission that the eolony <strong>of</strong> <strong>Victoria</strong> would be swamped<br />

from New Zealand with that particular root ?-Yes.<br />

50554. Is there any probability <strong>of</strong> such a thing occurring ?-I think so.<br />

50555. Are not we at present pretty ·well supplied with potatoes from theW estern district, W arrnant<br />

bool, and so on ?-About half.<br />

5055G. Does that come into competition with the Lancefield growers ?-Yes.<br />

"50557. Would it not be right to have a duty upon them then to protect you ?-How could you<br />

manage it ?<br />

50558. You would like it ?-Certainly not.<br />

50559. By M1·. Longmore.-I would like you to enter into a few particulars about the cost <strong>of</strong><br />

producing-what is the cost <strong>of</strong> ploughing· an acre ?-The cost <strong>of</strong> ploughing is nowadays much cheaper<br />

than it used to he-it is about 10s. an acr(l.<br />

50560. Harrowing?-You get harrowing and all done for l Os.-at any rate it is not more than<br />

2s. Gd. more.<br />

505Gl. Seed ?-Seed 6s. to 'is.<br />

505G2. Cutting ?-Six shillings an acre.<br />

50563. Threshing is £1 a hundred, is it not ?-Yes.<br />

50564. And yon pay the labour ?-Yes, it costs about £2.<br />

50565. That is 5t1. a bushel for a crop <strong>of</strong> 25 bushels-that is lls.<br />

505GG. Bags ?-Ten shillings a dozen.<br />

50567. Half a dozen will do an acre <strong>of</strong> 25 bnshels ?-Yes.<br />

about that.<br />

50568. There is 5s. carriage <strong>of</strong> the grain to Melbourne ?-A bout 5s. a ton-that is from the station,<br />

but there is carriage to the station as well, which may be another 5s. perhaps.<br />

505G!.l. A ton <strong>of</strong> oats is about 56 bushels, is it not?-Yes.<br />

50570). That would be 5s. altoget,her per acre ?-Yes.<br />

50571. Expenses in Melbourne ?-They are pretty large with commission agents.<br />

50572. I want to know for calculation's sake ?-Fourpence-halfpenny a bushel.<br />

50573. That is 10s. an acre for 25 bushels ?-Yes.<br />

50574. Xow what about your wear and tear ?-Of course there is something to be looked to in<br />

that.<br />

50575. I just want to show you this now as compared with your evidence, because when you started<br />

you showed that there were 35 bushels to the acre upon the average <strong>of</strong> oats, and that the sale <strong>of</strong> the straw<br />

more than covered all the expenses connected with the production <strong>of</strong> it, so that would be five<br />

guineas an ~1,cre clear pr<strong>of</strong>it to the farmer for every acre <strong>of</strong> oats he grew upon the average ?­<br />

Yes.<br />

5057G. Now here you have given us expenses amounting to £2 15s. Gel. for growing an acre <strong>of</strong><br />

oats, and you have not allowed anything for we::tr and tear, and you s~ty now that the average is 25 bushels<br />

to the acre, which at 3s. comes t.o £3 15s. ?-Yes.<br />

50577. Would you put. 4s. Gd. an acre ou for wear and tear ?-No.

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