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889 1 DECEMBER 2010 National Policy Statements 890<br />

National Policy Statements<br />

[Relevant documents: The Third Report from the Energy<br />

and Climate Change Committee, Session 2009-10, on<br />

The proposals for national policy statements on energy,<br />

HC 231, and the Government’s response t<strong>here</strong>to, and the<br />

Minutes of Evidence taken before the Energy and Climate<br />

Change Committee on 30 November, HC 648-i.]<br />

4.35 pm<br />

The Minister of State, Department of Energy and<br />

Climate Change (Charles Hendry): I beg to move,<br />

That this House has considered the matter of the draft Energy<br />

National Policy Statements.<br />

The revised draft national policy statements for energy<br />

set out national policy, which must be considered in<br />

determining whether consent should be granted to<br />

infrastructure projects that are examined by the<br />

Infrastructure Planning Commission. As right hon. and<br />

hon. Members will be aware, the previous Administration<br />

consulted on a suite of draft energy national policy<br />

statements between November 2009 and February 2010.<br />

Alongside that consultation, <strong>Parliament</strong> undertook scrutiny<br />

of the draft national policy statements. Scrutiny in this<br />

House was undertaken by the Select Committee on<br />

Energy and Climate Change, which held a number of<br />

oral hearings, requested written evidence and published<br />

a report of its findings, together with 30 recommendations<br />

and conclusions. I would like to take this opportunity to<br />

thank the then members of the Committee for the<br />

important work that they undertook and the thoroughness<br />

with which they approached it.<br />

This afternoon’s debate is part of <strong>Parliament</strong>’s scrutiny<br />

of the draft energy national policy statements, so I will<br />

talk about the purpose of national policy statements<br />

and the changes that we have made to them, the<br />

parliamentary scrutiny process required for national<br />

policy statements, and the coalition Government’s proposals<br />

for planning reform. The statements are complicated,<br />

lengthy documents that cover all aspects of energy<br />

policy, so I will talk at some length in introducing them.<br />

I hope that the House will bear with me. I will also give<br />

way to any interventions from hon. Members wishing<br />

to raise concerns. However, before going into the detail<br />

of the national policy statements, I would like to take a<br />

moment to set out the background to the coalition<br />

Government’s energy policy and the need to build new<br />

major energy infrastructure, as it is against that background<br />

that such massive new investment is required.<br />

Our energy policy is based on four pillars: energy<br />

saving, more renewables, new nuclear, and clean coal<br />

and gas. That includes the green deal, which we believe<br />

will help to bring existing buildings up to 21st-century<br />

efficiency standards. We are taking steps to reduce<br />

demand for gas through both energy efficiency measures<br />

to help improve our energy security, and demand-side<br />

response, through interruptable contracts for large users<br />

that will ensure that domestic users are prioritised in an<br />

emergency. A reduction in demand will also help to<br />

improve our energy security. Under the green deal,<br />

home owners and businesses will be able to get energy<br />

efficiency improvements without having to pay cash in<br />

advance. The private sector will provide the up-front<br />

funding, receiving its money back from the energy<br />

savings on household bills. That will help to save energy,<br />

reduce carbon and protect energy consumers from price<br />

rises through greater energy savings.<br />

John Robertson (Glasgow North West) (Lab): I commend<br />

the hon. Gentleman on the work that he did on the<br />

Energy and Climate Change Committee, and on which<br />

he congratulated everyone involved—they say that selfpraise<br />

is no praise, but t<strong>here</strong> we go. My great worry, and<br />

that of many of my colleagues on the Opposition<br />

Benches, is that the poor will always suffer. While<br />

everybody else is looking for ways of saving money,<br />

they cannot do so. What will his Government do to help<br />

people who perhaps cannot afford to do what is necessary<br />

to make the savings that he is talking about?<br />

Charles Hendry: The hon. Gentleman has often raised<br />

this issue in the Select Committee in the past, and it<br />

should be at the heart of our thinking. At this time of<br />

year, when people are struggling to pay their bills, how<br />

they will pay them in the future is a matter of great<br />

concern to us.<br />

The nature of the green deal is that it does not<br />

depend on the creditworthiness of the individual<br />

householder. A charge will be set against the future<br />

energy bills of their property, with the condition that<br />

the total cost of the energy efficiency measures should<br />

be such that it can be repaid through that extra charge<br />

over a period of 20 or 25 years. So the people living in<br />

those properties will get the immediate full benefit in<br />

terms of warmth and reduced energy consumption, but<br />

the charge will be brought back over time. We think that<br />

this policy has been devised in a way that has at its heart<br />

the interests of those who are fuel poor and have<br />

difficulty in paying their bills. The hon. Gentleman is<br />

absolutely right to say that, in all these issues, t<strong>here</strong> are<br />

massive costs for consumers. Our job as a Government<br />

is to find ways of trying to drive down the number of<br />

units that consumers will be using. The green deal is<br />

part of that process, as is smart metering.<br />

Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Lab/<br />

Co-op): May I issue an appeal to the Minister and his<br />

colleagues that, as the green deal mechanism is being<br />

finalised and formulated, it should not be targeted at<br />

only cavity wall and loft insulation? T<strong>here</strong> are many<br />

properties in my constituency and elsew<strong>here</strong> for which<br />

that would be no use at all, and some of those properties<br />

are among the least fuel efficient.<br />

Charles Hendry: The hon. Gentleman brings to the<br />

House a huge amount of expertise on these issues and I<br />

very much welcome his contribution. He has touched<br />

on an issue that is at the core of our thinking on how to<br />

take the green deal forward. He is absolutely right to say<br />

that, while a significant number of houses would be<br />

helped if it were to address issues of cavity wall and loft<br />

insulation, t<strong>here</strong> are many that do not have cavity walls<br />

and many that need additional measures. We are looking<br />

at the role that boilers can play in regard to energy<br />

efficiency, because that area has not been given sufficient<br />

attention in the past. The key will be to find a range of<br />

measures that are relevant to each individual property,<br />

the savings from which will justify the investment over<br />

time. I can give the hon. Gentleman an absolute assurance<br />

that the type of houses that he is talking about in his<br />

constituency, in mine, and in many others across the<br />

country will be very much included as the green deal is<br />

developed.

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