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299WH<br />

1 DECEMBER 2010 HIV<br />

300WH<br />

HIV<br />

2.30 pm<br />

Mr Edward Leigh (in the Chair): The sitting is resumed.<br />

Hon. Members: Hear, hear!<br />

David Cairns (Inverclyde) (Lab): That might be the<br />

best cheer I get all day. I welcome you to the Chair, Mr<br />

Leigh. It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship<br />

in this important debate. I also thank Mr Speaker for<br />

allowing this debate on HIV services in the UK to take<br />

place on world AIDS day. I have been in <strong>Parliament</strong> for<br />

nine years, but I am still ignorant about how debates are<br />

selected—whether t<strong>here</strong> is a lottery or whether Mr Speaker<br />

has a say in the matter. If he does, I thank him; if it was<br />

a lottery, I thank the Fates for timetabling this debate<br />

on 1 December.<br />

I begin with a point of clarification. This is not for<br />

the benefit of hon. Members present in the Chamber, as<br />

they are well aware of the procedures of this place, but<br />

for those who are watching the debate on television or<br />

the internet, and those who will read the account of the<br />

debate in days to come. This debate will focus mainly on<br />

HIV in the UK, but that is not because we think that<br />

HIV outside the UK is not a problem, or because we are<br />

unaware of the scale of HIV in the developing world.<br />

Africa has 10% of the world’s population but 72% of<br />

the deaths from AIDS, and we are aware of that.<br />

However, parliamentary procedure means that different<br />

Departments respond to the debates on different days,<br />

and today it is the turn of the Department of Health,<br />

not the Department for International Development.<br />

T<strong>here</strong>fore, although an enormous number of points<br />

could be raised about the global AIDS epidemic, I will<br />

in the main restrict my comments to HIV in the UK.<br />

With your indulgence, Mr Leigh, I might also sneak in a<br />

few comments about the international scene; I alerted<br />

the Minister about that in advance.<br />

If colleagues are anxious to hear about the international<br />

aspects of the HIV epidemic, I should say that a world<br />

AIDS day reception will be held this evening at 7 pm in<br />

the CPA Room. You are invited, Mr Leigh, as are all<br />

hon. Members, friends and colleagues.<br />

Mr Gareth Thomas (Harrow West) (Lab/Co-op): My<br />

hon. Friend is performing a service by raising the issue<br />

of HIV/AIDS in the UK. Does he also recognise that<br />

many people, both inside and outside the country, want<br />

to know what the UK Government intend to do about<br />

the future funding of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS,<br />

Tuberculosis and Malaria? That body has an excellent<br />

record in getting drugs to people with TB, malaria and<br />

particularly AIDS, many of whom are still in desperate<br />

need.<br />

David Cairns: I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who<br />

was a distinguished and long-serving Minister at DFID.<br />

In a sense, it is a false dichotomy to say that t<strong>here</strong> is an<br />

AIDS epidemic in the UK and an AIDS epidemic in<br />

Africa and never the twain shall meet. One of the<br />

largest at-risk populations in the UK is the African<br />

community––people who come from Africa and are<br />

HIV positive, or those who contract the disease in the<br />

UK within the African community. I will speak about<br />

that in a moment.<br />

My hon. Friend is correct to highlight the need to<br />

address the problem of the AIDS epidemic in Africa.<br />

Over the past few years, one of the most effective ways<br />

of doing that has been through the Global Fund to<br />

Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. The last<br />

Government had a good record in ensuring that the<br />

global fund was initiated, then adequately resourced.<br />

During the most recent meeting of the fund in October,<br />

high, medium and low targets were set for the level of<br />

replenishment. Unfortunately, the global community<br />

failed to hit the low target, let alone the medium or high<br />

targets.<br />

I understand why the Government do not come forward<br />

and state the exact figures for the replenishment of the<br />

fund. Through DFID, they are conducting a multilateral<br />

aid review, and until they decide their priorities, they<br />

cannot say how much will be made available for the<br />

global fund. Until we can provide a figure, I encourage<br />

Ministers to let the world know, at least with rhetoric,<br />

that we remain committed to the global fund.<br />

Much of the world looks to the UK for an international<br />

lead in tackling AIDS, and other countries will be<br />

looking to our figures for the replenishment of the<br />

global fund before making their commitments. The<br />

Government have an excellent opportunity to set a<br />

global lead. I was going to make those points about the<br />

international community at the end of my speech, but I<br />

have made them now.<br />

Let me return to matters for which the Minister is<br />

responsible—she will be pleased to hear that—rather<br />

than the rest of the world. I will make three points<br />

about how we should respond to the ongoing HIV<br />

epidemic in the UK and our public policy priorities.<br />

First, I will speak a little about prevention, secondly I<br />

will discuss testing and treatment and thirdly I will say<br />

something about care and support. Those three things<br />

do not exist in isolation; they are not, to use fabled<br />

management-speak, in “silos.” One point leads into<br />

another, but for the purposes of the debate I will say a<br />

little about each issue in turn.<br />

The backdrop to this debate is not only the ongoing<br />

financial constraints under which all Governments around<br />

the world are operating, but the NHS reconstruction<br />

and reconfiguration that the Government have embarked<br />

on, as well as the messages contained in the public<br />

health White Paper, launched yesterday by the Secretary<br />

of State. Because the national health service is undergoing<br />

a process of change and transition, t<strong>here</strong> is some uncertainty.<br />

Until we get answers to some of the questions that we<br />

raise, that uncertainty will continue.<br />

As I pointed out in the main Chamber this afternoon,<br />

although the Minister’s responsibility on such matters is<br />

constrained to the NHS in England, the HIV virus does<br />

not respect geographical borders. It is incredibly important<br />

for the Government to work closely with the devolved<br />

Administrations in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast to<br />

ensure a co<strong>here</strong>nt, joined-up approach. That is the only<br />

way to tackle the virus in a way that will see a reduction<br />

in the number of people affected and reverse the rate of<br />

increase in new cases of the disease. T<strong>here</strong>fore, although<br />

I am addressing the NHS in England, the message must<br />

be heard by those who configure the NHS in the devolved<br />

Administrations. I was pleased to hear that the Secretary<br />

of State for Scotland will meet the Minister responsible<br />

for health in Scotland tomorrow, and will put that<br />

important issue on the agenda.

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