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893 National Policy Statements 1 DECEMBER 2010 National Policy Statements 894<br />
John Woodcock: The Government talk a great deal<br />
about blank pages. Have they whitewashed their time in<br />
opposition, when one party was dead set against nuclear<br />
and the other wanted it to be a last resort? If they have<br />
converted, that is fine, but let us at least have a bit of<br />
candour about the process through which the Minister<br />
has got to w<strong>here</strong> he is now.<br />
Charles Hendry: The hon. Gentleman is new to the<br />
House and he might t<strong>here</strong>fore be unaware of the extent<br />
to which we worked very constructively with the previous<br />
Secretary of State, the now noble Lord Hutton, and<br />
others to try to ensure that we took this agenda forward.<br />
As the hon. Gentleman has been a special adviser<br />
however, he will be aware that nuclear was taken off the<br />
agenda for five years. T<strong>here</strong> was a Government White<br />
Paper that said, in effect, “We do not see a need for new<br />
nuclear in this country.” T<strong>here</strong> were no qualifications to<br />
that statement; it was just stated that t<strong>here</strong> was no<br />
requirement, full stop. For five years, that delayed the<br />
development of new nuclear.<br />
I completely applaud the work of the previous Secretary<br />
of State, which has contributed to our country becoming<br />
one of the most exciting in the world for new nuclear<br />
development. The reality is that we were constructively<br />
involved in that process, but for five years nuclear was<br />
taken off the agenda.<br />
Martin Horwood (Cheltenham) (LD): To be candid,<br />
the Minister may know that, as per the coalition agreement,<br />
many Liberal Democrat Members are still absolutely<br />
opposed to nuclear power. Will he confirm that at no<br />
point in the last 30 years has it been impossible for<br />
private investment for nuclear to come forward, and if<br />
Government policy was not preventing that, why does<br />
he think no private investment did come forward in the<br />
last 30 years?<br />
Charles Hendry: The Government are seeking to<br />
address a comprehensive range of issues to do with new<br />
nuclear. T<strong>here</strong> have been planning issues; for example,<br />
the Sizewell B project took five or six years just to go<br />
through the planning stage. Also, regulatory justification<br />
is a legal requirement, and that process had to be gone<br />
through. Last week, a measure on that passed through<br />
this House with a massive majority of over 500 to a<br />
couple of dozen, so t<strong>here</strong> has been a significant step<br />
forward in that respect. The long-term cost of waste<br />
management also needs to be known, and that figure is<br />
now being made clear and given to the industry. Other<br />
barriers to investment are also now being addressed.<br />
T<strong>here</strong>fore, although it is technically right that t<strong>here</strong> was<br />
nothing to stop people investing in new nuclear, it is<br />
also absolutely clear that the circumstances did not<br />
encourage people to come forward with new proposals.<br />
John Robertson: I should declare an interest: I am<br />
chair of the all-party group on nuclear energy. I think<br />
the Minister is being slightly disingenuous towards the<br />
Opposition. It was Labour who led the fight to put<br />
nuclear back on to the table. It was not that it had been<br />
taken off the table; it was just that nobody really<br />
wanted to touch it, including Ministers who were Members<br />
of this House at the time. T<strong>here</strong>fore, in a spirit of<br />
cross-party coalition, will the Minister accept that we<br />
did our bit in getting nuclear back on to the agenda,<br />
and does he agree that now is the time to make sure<br />
that these new power stations are built for the benefit of<br />
this country<br />
Charles Hendry: I am keen that this coalition should<br />
get larger and grander every day, so I am delighted to<br />
welcome the hon. Gentleman to it. I agree with what he<br />
said. I have already twice given credit to the previous<br />
Secretary of State. I am very happy to pay tribute to<br />
him and the previous Prime Minister for the role they<br />
played in putting nuclear back on the agenda.<br />
In response to the question of my hon. Friend the<br />
Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke), I think it is true<br />
that the challenges we face today are in part a result of<br />
not enough construction having been carried out early<br />
enough. If t<strong>here</strong> had been more construction in our<br />
energy infrastructure over recent years, we would not<br />
now be faced with the mountain of needing £200 billion<br />
of new investment.<br />
Angela Smith (Penistone and Stocksbridge) (Lab): I<br />
am glad to hear that the future of the nuclear industry<br />
in the UK will be a good one. Will t<strong>here</strong>, however, be a<br />
good future for the UK supply chain for the nuclear<br />
industry, particularly in terms of the construction of<br />
these stations? What will the Government do to support<br />
the supply chain?<br />
Charles Hendry: We are very keen indeed to see the<br />
supply chain benefit. We talk to the companies that are<br />
looking to invest in this area, and they are very keen to<br />
use British know-how, skills and businesses. The<br />
Westinghouse approach is to buy w<strong>here</strong> it builds. T<strong>here</strong>fore,<br />
together with Arriva, it has been setting up workshops<br />
around the country to encourage people to show the<br />
contributions and skills they can bring. From our point<br />
of view, this is a critical part of the project. We want<br />
them to partner British companies and, as part of that<br />
process, we believe t<strong>here</strong> is an opportunity for them to<br />
sell that package internationally as well. That is absolutely<br />
at the heart of what we want.<br />
Angela Smith: Why, t<strong>here</strong>fore, do the Government<br />
refuse to support Forgemasters in its bid to play a<br />
strategic part in the development of the supply chain<br />
for the future of our power stations?<br />
Charles Hendry: The hon. Lady is very familiar with<br />
the argument. We have said that we looked at the issues<br />
as we came into government and we identified those<br />
that were based on affordability, not on their importance.<br />
We believe that Sheffield Forgemasters makes an extremely<br />
important contribution in this area. The Government’s<br />
position has been clear and what we now do not understand<br />
is the Opposition’s position.<br />
We had a vote on regulatory justification last week,<br />
which approved two specific reactor types, the Westinghouse<br />
and the Areva designs. In that vote the shadow Business<br />
Secretary, the shadow Chancellor and the shadow Energy<br />
Secretary voted against the approval of those designs.<br />
How can the shadow Business Secretary make a case for<br />
Sheffield Forgemasters when he has voted against the<br />
exact design that it is supposed to be supporting? T<strong>here</strong><br />
is a complete hole in the Opposition’s policy in this<br />
area. I hope that this shadow Minister will rise to his<br />
feet to give us clarity on those issues, but when three<br />
members of the shadow Cabinet vote against the heart<br />
of the nuclear policy, the Opposition’s policy is in<br />
tatters.