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913 National Policy Statements 1 DECEMBER 2010 National Policy Statements 914<br />
nuclear, decentralised energy and CCS, as well as on<br />
other things, if only we had the time to discuss them in<br />
this short debate.<br />
Martin Horwood rose—<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: I will not take another intervention<br />
because t<strong>here</strong> are other people waiting to speak.<br />
Meanwhile, part 3 of the overarching energy policy<br />
statement details new electricity projections. It outlines<br />
the need for 59 GW of new capacity by 2025, of which<br />
as much as 33 GW will be from renewables, thus leaving<br />
a significant potential gap, on top of the energy gap<br />
that we already acknowledge, if the Minister’s best laid<br />
plans do not come to fruition. This raises the question<br />
of how the Minister can avoid re-carbonising instead of<br />
de-carbonising the energy sector if an unabated dash<br />
for expensive imported gas rushes in to fill the looming<br />
energy gap. The dash for gas and the energy gap could<br />
be made far worse if any of the “what ifs” were to<br />
happen. The Minister has honestly and openly accepted<br />
that gas will form part of our journey to a de-carbonised<br />
future, but how will he ensure that we do not stumble<br />
into a new generation of unabated gas use by default?<br />
As a former Minister, I recognise the problem of<br />
dealing with highly complex issues and scenario planning.<br />
I t<strong>here</strong>fore ask the Minister to share with the House his<br />
scenario planning and risk analysis for the energy market,<br />
before we come to debate the national policy statements<br />
in detail on the Floor of the House in January. If t<strong>here</strong><br />
is to be real democratic accountability, the House needs<br />
to see the complete assumptions on which the Minister<br />
is making his case for the NPSs and for the energy<br />
market underpinning them. We assume that these have<br />
been done. If nuclear, CCS, decentralised energy or a<br />
whole host of other variables were delayed or undeliverable,<br />
what is plan B, plan C or plan D, and would any of<br />
them allow us still to reach our aims on energy security<br />
and low carbon energy?<br />
In that regard, what is the Minister’s response to the<br />
recommendation of the Committee on Climate Change,<br />
in response to the proposals for national policy statements<br />
on energy, that the Government act on the Committee’s<br />
proposal that the widely accepted concept of fully<br />
de-carbonising the electricity sector by 2030 should be<br />
made explicit in Government policy and NPSs? It has<br />
been widely accepted anyway, and it would drive the<br />
achievement of the 2050 targets on greenhouse gases.<br />
The Committee asserts that making explicit that<br />
commitment would drive forward decision making on<br />
new generating capacity and give certainty to investors<br />
regarding the Government’s overarching energy policy.<br />
Dan Byles: The shadow Minister has highlighted the<br />
concern that many of the Government’s plans are predicated<br />
on CCS working and on investment in nuclear coming<br />
through, and he has asked what plan B is. Can we look<br />
forward to hearing from those on his own Front Bench<br />
what their plan B would be if they were in government?<br />
Huw Irranca-Davies: I can give the hon. Gentleman a<br />
guarantee that we are committed to assisting the<br />
Government to deliver this, but to ignore the potential<br />
scenarios of not making good in any one of these areas<br />
would be to bury our head in the sand. T<strong>here</strong> are real<br />
concerns that t<strong>here</strong> could be delays in one of these<br />
areas, and if that were to happen, we, as a constructive<br />
Opposition would have to work jointly with the Government<br />
to fathom a way in which we could still deliver de-carbonised<br />
energy, hit our carbon reduction targets and deliver<br />
energy security and affordable energy. I have not even<br />
touched on the issues of the green deal and the green<br />
investment bank that were raised by other Members<br />
earlier. That is why we need to see the Government’s<br />
working assumptions, the detail behind the Minister’s<br />
development of these NPSs and, as soon as possible,<br />
the proposals for electricity market reform.<br />
I am pleased that the Minister is talking a lot about<br />
the intentions behind the NPSs, but we are really up<br />
against time. I know that he will once again stand up<br />
and say that that is all the fault of the previous<br />
Administration, but actually it was the previous<br />
Administration who put in the foundations for what the<br />
coalition Government are now rightly taking forward.<br />
We will look to the Government to make good, and we<br />
will be constructive in helping them, but the House and<br />
the Energy and Climate Change Committee need to be<br />
able to wrestle with the facts as well as with the broad<br />
thrust of the statements. I have spoken longer than I<br />
intended to, and I look forward to hearing the comments<br />
of other Members.<br />
6.3 pm<br />
Damian Collins (Folkestone and Hythe) (Con): We<br />
have had a tour de force from the Minister and the<br />
shadow Minister on many of the issues in the national<br />
policy statements for energy. I shall restrict my comments<br />
to an issue that affects my constituency, which is the list<br />
of suggested nuclear new build sites and, in particular,<br />
the Dungeness site. At present, t<strong>here</strong> is an A station and<br />
a B station at Dungeness, and the site was included on<br />
the previous Government’s original list of 11 sites to be<br />
consulted on. Before the general election, it was removed<br />
from the list after the initial stage of the consultation,<br />
and it has remained off the list of potential sites to be<br />
taken forward within the national policy statement in<br />
the draft consultation that has been presented to <strong>Parliament</strong>.<br />
I have already discussed the issue in debates in the<br />
House and in Westminster Hall and I do not want to go<br />
over all the ground again, but I do want to deal with<br />
some specific points raised by the draft national policy<br />
statement which may be of interest to other Members.<br />
Let me say first that I am grateful to the Minister for the<br />
interest that he has taken in the subject, for his time, and<br />
for agreeing to meet me later in the month, along with<br />
representatives of Shepway district council and Kent<br />
county council, to establish whether any progress can be<br />
made.<br />
I note from the draft statement that the Government<br />
consider the site of Dungeness nuclear power station to<br />
be a credible site for a new power station should the<br />
principal concerns about it be addressed during the rest<br />
of the consultation period. Those concerns lie chiefly<br />
with Natural England’s objection to the development in<br />
a special protected area, a Natura 2000 reserve with a<br />
European designation. Dungeness is the only site under<br />
consideration in the initial consultation in which<br />
development would take place within a protected area.<br />
T<strong>here</strong> are problems with the other sites that the Government<br />
believe can be solved, but the problems affecting Dungeness<br />
remain.