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88 • Truth & Reconciliation Commission<br />

trouble, and he said, “I was teaching you. What did I tell you, anyway?” he said. And<br />

I said, “Something about forty days, forty nights Jesus fasted, right.” He said, “Oh, see,<br />

you weren’t listening,” he said. “So, for your punishment,” he said, “this is what you’re<br />

gonna do. You’re gonna,” he took headpins out of his, on his desk, there was a little<br />

container full of headpins, he took it out of his desk, and he said, “Spread your hand<br />

out.” So, I spread my hand out like this, both hands, and he started jabbing me in<br />

front of the students, jabbing me in the hand, and he said, “You’re, you’re gonna feel<br />

what Jesus felt on the cross. You’re, you’re gonna feel the same pain.” So, he was just<br />

jabbing me and jabbing me and jabbing me, and my tears were just streaming down<br />

my eyes, and looking at all the, the students that were all looking at me, right. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

were shocked, like. And then after that, he stopped, finally he stopped, anyway, and<br />

so he stuck me underneath his, underneath, they used to have a great big desk, he<br />

stuck me underneath his desk. He said, “This is where you’re gonna stay now ’til the<br />

lesson is over. You’re gonna hear it from where you are now.” So, oh, my goodness, so<br />

I sat there, and I was just crying, but I cried quietly. 307<br />

Students were confused by the requirement that they regularly confess their sins. At the<br />

Grouard, Alberta, school, Frank Tomkins said, he never<br />

really learned anything except to pray and catechism<br />

and confessions. And I used to lie like hell<br />

and go to confession. <strong>The</strong> priest would ask you<br />

all kinds of questions that had nothing to do with<br />

religion. <strong>The</strong>y just wanna know all about you—what<br />

your thoughts and everything else. And I’d lie like<br />

hell because they used to say that God knew everything<br />

anyway! You know, God knew everything. 308<br />

Fred Brass said that at the Roman Catholic school<br />

in Kamsack, Saskatchewan, he was taught to lie. “I<br />

had to lie to keep from being beat and it is not a very<br />

nice feeling. When we went to confession, what they Frank Tomkins.<br />

called confession, we had to lie, make up lies just to get<br />

through our confession.” 309<br />

Although much of the initial religious training was done by rote, students internalized<br />

the lessons they were taught. In his later years at the Sandy Bay school, Arthur Ron McKay<br />

decided, in his words, “to try their way.” He said he took to reading the Bible and became<br />

an altar boy.<br />

That’s how I lost all my … beliefs, traditional things that I knew from my grandfather,<br />

the songs that he tried to show me because I knew some songs before I left for school<br />

and I forgot all about those songs, traditional songs, Sun Dance songs, even when<br />

I was younger, that young I knew and I knew how to do all the little things that the

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