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140 • Truth & Reconciliation Commission<br />

nothing. She was just looking around. So again I asked her. You know the other girls<br />

changed their water. I said, “Can I change my water?” I guess I asked her too many<br />

times, and she took the pail, and threw it over my head, and just pounding me with,<br />

you know, with a mop on my, you know, while that pail was on my head, you know.<br />

Yeah, I think that’s when Nora came out of the kitchen. I remember the old kitchen<br />

that used to be there. 482<br />

Stella Marie Tookate never forgot being called to the principal’s office at the Fort Albany,<br />

Ontario, school.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re was a priest there, standing, and the sister standing, a nun. And then, they were<br />

two in the office. And at that time, I remember, they were strapping me five times—<br />

five times on my hands and five times the other hand. And that’s where, that’s where I<br />

stopped going to school because I was … I showed my dad my hands at that time, and<br />

then he took me away from school. It was hard for me to continue my school at that<br />

time. It was hard to feel that stripes on my hands.… My hands were red at that time—<br />

painful. Sometimes, I could, I could tell, sometimes how I was feeling. I feel that pain<br />

sometimes. And I stopped going to school after that. 483<br />

Fred Brass said that his years at the Roman Catholic school at Kamsack, Saskatchewan,<br />

were “the hellish years of my life. You know to be degraded by our so-called educators, to<br />

be beat by these people that were supposed to have been there to look after us, to teach us<br />

right from wrong. It makes me wonder now today a lot of times I ask that question, who<br />

was right and who was wrong?”<br />

Brass described a school dominated by a violent regime of punishment.<br />

I saw my brother with his face held to a hot steaming pipe and then getting burned<br />

on the arm by the supervisor. And I took my brother, tried to get him out of there.<br />

And I saw my cousin get beat up to the point where he was getting kicked where he<br />

couldn’t even walk and then it was my turn. I got beat so bad that I wet my pants.<br />

Fears I lived with day and night to the point where at nighttime when you want to<br />

go to the bathroom you can’t because there is someone sitting there with a stick or a<br />

strap ready to beat on you if you try to go to that bathroom. And the only choice we<br />

had was to pee in our beds. That’s not a nice feeling to have to sleep in that kind of a<br />

bed. 484<br />

According to Geraldine Bob, the staff members at the Kamloops school she attended<br />

were not able to control their tempers once they began to punish a student.<br />

And from the beatings, because I didn’t cry, they went berserk; you know the two<br />

nuns. <strong>The</strong>y would just start beating you and lose control and hurl you against the<br />

wall, throw you on the floor, kick you, punch you and just laid you; they couldn’t stop.<br />

You know, they were insane, yeah. And they were not able to control themselves at<br />

all. 485

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