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Max Planck Institute for Astronomy - Annual Report 2005

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136 V. People and Events<br />

Lemke: I was just as interested in the astronomical<br />

problems. Elsässer had worked on zodiacal light and now<br />

wanted to observe it in the infrared and mid-UV range<br />

as well. The long-term objective was the separation of<br />

the zodiacal light from other components of the night<br />

sky brightness, and tHibse was to contribute to this. It<br />

was absolutely fascinating <strong>for</strong> me to observe the glowing<br />

gaseous nebulae, such as the Orion Nebula, with groundbased<br />

telescopes in the infrared range and to detect embedded<br />

point sources in addition to the huge extensive<br />

emission. At that time, the observation of star <strong>for</strong>mation<br />

in gas and dust clouds actually started. Today this is one<br />

of the main research fields at the MPIA.<br />

All this still took place at the Landessternwarte. How<br />

do you remember the establishment of the MPIA?<br />

Lemke: Elsässer had hired me on February 1st, 1969,<br />

together with seven more colleagues, including Thorsten<br />

Neckel, Joachim Hermann, Josef Solf, Elsässer’s secretary<br />

Traudl Filsinger as well as Bodo Schwarze, Wolfgang<br />

Hormuth, and Franz Pihale from the workshops. At that<br />

time, the <strong>Institute</strong> consisted of nine persons. In the beginning,<br />

some of the MPIA staff worked in a hut on the<br />

grounds of the Landessternwarte, and in 1975 we finally<br />

moved into the new building.<br />

The development of helios ran parallel to this.<br />

Leinert: The German participation in this space probe<br />

was the result of a meeting between the German<br />

Chancellor Ludwig Erhard and the U.S. President Lyndon<br />

B. Johnson in 1965. The question as to which kind of<br />

instruments should be contributed by Germany was<br />

entrusted to Ludwig Biermann, the most renowned<br />

German astronomer at the time. Naturally he suggested<br />

studying the solar winds he himself had discovered, but<br />

also interplanetary dust. He regarded Hans Elsässer as the<br />

Fig. V.13.3: Christoph Leinert and Dietrich Lemke at the end of<br />

the festive colloquium.<br />

specialist in this field, who then received the zodiacallight<br />

photometer project (first at the Landessternwarte,<br />

later at the MPIA).<br />

It was Germany’s first participation in an interplanetary<br />

space probe, and technologically, at least one double<br />

step <strong>for</strong>ward – there<strong>for</strong>e meaning new territory <strong>for</strong> all<br />

of us. It was a young project pursued in many areas by<br />

professional novices with great enthusiasm. I was made<br />

P.I. (Principal Investigator) <strong>for</strong> the photometer, although<br />

I didn’t even have my PhD then. It was a project worth<br />

millions – something like that would be unthinkable<br />

today. But it was another time then – in many respects.<br />

For instance, it was not so important to publish anything<br />

– only if the work on the project was proceeding well.<br />

Five years after I recieved my PhD, I still had not published<br />

a paper in a refereed journal. Can you imagine that?<br />

Technically, our instrument was state-of-the-art and very<br />

successful. We used carbon fiber material <strong>for</strong> the first<br />

time in space astronomy then.<br />

What is your present-day view of the decisions<br />

Elsässer made at that time?<br />

Leinert: With the participation in Helios, Elsässer<br />

received a great deal of funding and was able to attract<br />

PhD students to the <strong>Institute</strong>. This certainly was important<br />

<strong>for</strong> the development of the MPIA. But at the time, he<br />

very swiftly rejected participation in successor projects<br />

without consulting us, although ulysses – a space probe<br />

flying above the poles of the sun – would have been an interesting<br />

opportunity. In his opinion, the scientific problem<br />

had essentially been solved with Helios, or at least was no<br />

longer a suitable main field of research <strong>for</strong> the <strong>Institute</strong>.

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