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`opoziciuri partiebidan yvelaze didi
bolo wuTamde opozicia koal-
giorgi abaSiZe
iciur mTavrobaze saubrobda, Tumca
ramdenime dRis winaT saqarTvelos
mesame prezidentma am sakiTxze skandaluri gancxadeba gaa-
keTa. kerZod, erT-erT satelevizio interviuSi saakaSvilma
calsaxad Tqva, rom partiebs Soris koalicias ver xedavs: „me
vxedav koalicias sazogadoebis. me saerTod ar vxedav partiul
koalicias, me saerTod ar mjera politikuri partiebisa da partiukebis,
saerTod ar mjera zogadad politikanobisa da poli-
tikosobis viwro gagebiT. am arCevnebze umravlesobas aiRebs an
„nacionaluri moZraoba”, an saqarTvelo daiRupeba. Cveni gamarjvebis
Semdeg iqneba farTo sazogadoebrivi interesebiT war-
modgenili mTavroba, iq SeiZleba iyos sxva partiebic”.
saakaSvilis zemoxsenebuli
gamosvla sxva opoziciurma partiebma,
cxadia, upasuxod ar datoves
da mxolod miSa ki ara,
mTeli „nacionaluri moZraoba”,
lamis, cocxlad daasamares.
amasobaSi, premierobis msurvelTa
ricxvic gaizarda, anu Tu
aqamde vicodiT, rom qveynis ministrTa
kabinetis meTaurobis
survili giorgi vaSaZes, mixeil
saakaSvils, „lelosa” da „evropul
saqarTvelos” hqondaT, axla
am sias Salva naTelaSvilic miemata.
„me mzad var, davikavo saqarTvelos
premier-ministris posti,
Tu iqneba xalxis neba, mxardaWera
da RmerTis neba, ris Semdegac
meore dRes Cven gaviRvi-
ZebT sruliad sxva saqarTvelo-
Si, sadac ar iqnebian mSieri, gaWirvebuli,
Rataki, uimedo, umuSevari
da qveynidan gaqcevis msurveli,
daCagruli, usamarTloba-
Si mcxovrebi, represirebuli
adamianebi”, _ ganacxada naTelaSvilma
partiis proporciuli siis
wardgenisas.
erTi sityviT, win friad saintereso
peripetiebi gvelodeba.
am procesebs valeri gelbaxiani
„ori oqros mandatis” TamaSs eZaxis,
rac imas niSnavs, rom 31 oqtombris
Semdeg saqarTvelos premieri
SesaZloa, im partiis warmomadgeneli
gaxdes, romelic parlamentSi
yvelaze cota mandatiT
Seva.
amasTan, „qronika+”-sTan
saubrisas gamocdili iuristi
imis albaTobasac uSvebs, rom
opoziciam koaliciuri umravlesobisa
da, Sesabamisad, mTavrobis
dakompleqteba ver moaxerxos da
gazafxulze dRis wesrigSi dadges
vadamdeli saparlamento
arCevnebis Catarebis sakiTxi.
„qronika+~ gTavazobT inter-
vius valeri gelbaxianTan:
_ batono valeri, rogor
xarT, arCevnebamde erTi TviT
adre rogori winaTgrZnoba
gaqvT?
_ qveyanaSi seriozuli dadebiTi
Zvrebia mosalodneli.
_ e. i., imedovnebT, rom „ocneba”
xelisuflebaSi mesame va-
diT veRar darCeba?
_ ki ar vimedovneb, darwmunebuli
var, rom am arCevnebSi
qarTveli xalxi gaimarjvebs!
_ ratom ggoniaT, rom „ocneba”
arCevnebs ar gaayalbebs? sx-
vaTa Soris, erT-erTi bolo ga-
mokiTxviT, yvela maJoritarul
olqSi mmarTveli partiis kandi-
dati liderobs.
_ lideroba ras niSnavs?
_ anu pirvel adgilzea. yov-
el SemTxvevaSi, „rusTavi 2-is”
dakveTiT britanelebis mier
Catarebuli kvleva aseTia...
_ simarTle giTxraT, ar vici,
es kvleva sandoa Tu ara, miT
umetes, rom saqarTvelos sxvadasxva
kuTxeSi davdivar da sruliad
sxva suraTs vxedav. xalxis
ganwyoba xelisuflebis mimarT
absoluturad uaryofiTia da
ramdenic undaT, imdeni kvleva
Caataron.
_ xelisuflebis uaryofiTi
ganwyoba imas ar niSnavs, rom
xalxs opozicia moswons.
_ diax, magram opoziciis mimarT
xmebi gaSlilia.
_ anu?
_ erT opozicias xmas aravin
aZlevs, magram opoziciuri partiebidan
zogi erT procents
miiRebs, zogi _ 5-s, zogi _ 15-s
da a. S.
_ e. i., es e. w. gaSlili xmebi
koaliciuri mTavrobis Camoyal-
ibebis safuZveli gaxdeba, ara?
_ diax. „ocnebam” arCevnebi
romc gaayalbos, gardauvalia,
rom amas eskalacia an vadamdeli
arCevnebi ar mohyves. es ki amTaviTve
imas niSnavs, rom „ocneba”
Zalauflebas veRar moipovebs!
_ SeiZleba, magram mixeil
saakaSvili koaliciur mTavrobas
gamoricxavs, anu misi mtki-
cebiT, axali mTavroba mTlianad
„nacionalurma moZraobam” unda
daakompleqtos. es realisturi
scenaria, batono valeri?
_ saakaSvili am gancxadebas
zustad iseTive ritorikiT ake-
Tebs, ra ritorikiTac „ocneba”
ambobs, am arCevnebs me movigebo.
saerTod, Tu arCevnebs „nacionaluri
moZraoba” moigebs, zustad
ise moxdeba, rasac saakaSvili
ambobs, Tumca misi es gancxadeba
ufro xmebis mobilizebazea
gaTvlili. ar vici, aqedan ra gamova,
magram dRevandeli monacemebiT,
„nacionalur moZraobas”
cudi mdgomareoba namdvilad ar
aqvs. yovel SemTxvevaSi, rasac me
vuyureb, opoziciuri partiebidan
yvelaze didi mxardaWera
swored „nacionalur moZraobas”
eqneba.
_ sxvaTa Soris, saakaSvilis
zemoxsenebul gancxadebas opo-
ziciaSi didi aJiotaJi mohyva.
Sesabamisad, saqme iqamde xom ar
miva, rom „antiocnebelebi” br-
Zolas „ocnebas” ki ara, erTmaneTs
dauwyeben da es opozici-
urad ganwyobil eleqtoratze
valeri gelbaxiani:
`saakaSvili
Tu saWiroeba
iqneba,
dabrundeba, Tu
ar iqneba, ar
dabrundeba~
uaryofiTad imoqmedebs?
_ ar mgonia, rom opoziciurad
ganwyobilma eleqtoratma gadawyvetileba
amis mixedviT miiRos.
opoziciurad ganwyobil adamianebs
TavianTi xedva aqvT da ama
Tu im partiasac swored amis
mixedviT aZleven xmas. xom iciT,
zogs viri moswons da zogs _
viris patroni.
_ ukacravad, arCevnebTan viri
da misi patroni ra SuaSia?
_ imis Tqma minda, rom gemovnebaSi
veravis SevedavebiT da
ver vetyviT, ama Tu im partias
vin ratom uWers mxars, magram ise
araa, rom xalxis ganwyoba imis
mixedviT iqmnebodes, televiziiT
vin ras ityvis. politikaSi elementaruli
WeSmariteba arsebobs.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ romeli partia daarwmunebs
sazogadoebas, rom misi xedvebi
Tu programebi ufro realuria
da xalxTanac axlos dgas? _ gadamwyveti
swored esaa, Torem
opoziciaSi rac unda Cxubi iyos,
is, visac ar unda, rom „ocnebas”
xma misces, mainc ar dauWers mxars,
anu opoziciis kinklaobiT
„ocnebas” araferi emateba! sxva-
Ta Soris, yvelaferi es Taviseburi
konkurenciaa. aba, warmoudgenelia,
arCevnebis dros konkurencia
rom ar iyos.
_ ise, batono valeri, Tqveni
ar vici, piradad me ki mgonia,
rom wlevandeli saarCevno kampania,
winamorbedebisgan gansxvavebiT,
erTob mSvidad mim-
dinareobs.
_ jer ra iciT, mSvidad mim-
`Tu `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~ SeiZleboda, rom
safrangeTis moqalaqe salome zurabiSvili
prezidenti gamxdariyo da igive safrangeTis
moqalaqe biZina ivaniSvili - premieri, maSin
ratom ar SeiZleba, rom premieri saakaSvilic
gaxdes? erTi sityviT, rTuli barierebi
arsebobs, magram Tu politikuri neba iqneba,
samarTlebrivad yvelafris gakeTeba SeiZleba~
dinareobs Tu ara? jer siebi
bolomde dazustebuli ar aris.
es procesi or dReSi dasruldeba
da amis Semdeg vnaxavT, ra moxdeba.
SeiZleba, eqscesebic iyos.
_ muSti-krivs, dedis ginebasa
da „ocnebis” mxridan provoka-
ciebs elodebiT?
_ me ki ara, amas aSS-is saelCo
da sxva samsaxurebic amboben, rom
saqarTvelos xelisufleba destabilizaciis
wyaros warmoadgens
da amitom sazogadoeba
frTxilad unda iyos, anu roca
saarCevno kampaniis piki iqneba da
„ocneba” dainaxavs, arCevnebs agebs,
iseT xerxebs mimarTavs, rom
Zalaufleba SeinarCunos, magram
meore sakiTxia, Tundac am xerxebiT
Zalauflebas SeinarCunebs
Tu vera.
_ weRan vadamdeli arCevnebi
axseneT da, sxvaTa Soris, bevri
varaudobs, rom meaTe mowvevis
parlamenti vadas ver amowuravs
da gazafxulze vadamdeli arC-
evnebi Catardeba. batono val-
eri, Tqveni azriT, vadamdelis
daniSvnis sababi ra SeiZleba
gaxdes?
_ Tu opozicia umravlesobasa
da, Sesabamisad, mTavrobaze ver
Camoyalibda, amas, yvela SemTxvevaSi,
vadamdeli arCevnebi mohyveba.
_ dRevandeli gadasaxedidan,
opozicia mTavrobaze SeTanxme-
bas moaxerxebs?
_ TiTqmis yvela opoziciur
partias premierobis sakuTari
kandidati hyavs da yvela Tavis
ministrTa kabinetze, ase vTqvaT,
ocnebobs. es ki, saboloo jamSi,
xels SeuSlis, rom axali parlamenti
stabiluri ar iyos da, metic,
uunaro aRmoCndes. SeiZleba,
konsensusi Sedges, magram axali
parlamenti yovel wuTs mainc
daSlisa da vadamdeli arCevnebis
Catarebis winaSe idgeba. mokled,
mgonia, rom am arCevnebiT
myari an SeTanxmebuli koalici-
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