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Tamar mayaSvilis politikuri gegmebi
msaxiobi Tamar mayaSvili poli-
giorgi sakaruli
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arCevnebSi sakanonmdeblo orga-
nos mandatisTvis damoukideblad
ibrZolebs. ambobs, rom wlebis manZilze xedavs erTsa da imave
xalxs da ubnisTvis, qalaqisTvis sasikeTo araferi keTdeba.
gadawyvetileba erTi mizeziT miiRo is Seecdeba, daamsxvri-
os stereotipi, „arCevnebs fuli igebs”. „saburTaloze, Cems
ubanSi, 61 nomriT upartiod, damoukideblad viyri kenWs.
mjera, rom davamsxvrev stereotips TiTqos arCevnebs fuli
igebs. me amis ar mjera. naxavs yvela, rom imiT gamoval, ri-
Tac Seval, mTavari principulobaa.
movdivar ufulod da upartiod.
movdivar gulwrfeli adamianebisTvis,
romlebic realu-
rad mzad arian cvlilebebisTvis.
yovelgvar dafinansebul saarCevno
kampaniaze uars vambob. sabur-
Taloelebi aqcents fulze ki
ara, Rirebulebebze akeTeben”, _
uTxra „qronika+~-s Tamar mayaS-
vilma.
_ qalbatono Tamar, ratom
gadawyviteT awyviteT politikaSi mosvla?
Tqveni es nabiji, mgoni, yvelas-
Tvis moulodneli iyo.
_ TiTqmis yvelasTvis. sul vambobdi,
rom adamians bevri fiqris
dro ar unda hqondes. es xumrobiT,
magram 3 Tvis manZilze viweqi,
fexze problema mqonda da televizors
iZulebiT vuyurebdi. kiTxva
ar SeiZleboda, amitom 24 saaTi
sainformacio mqonda CarTuli. am
yvelaferma ise CamiTria, rom politikuri
ambebiT davinteresdi.
aqamde Tu ar vicodi, vin iyo Cveni
qveynis premier-ministri, axla vici.
erT mSvenier dRes daido informacia,
rom saburTaloze ar
aris maJoritari deputati da xumrobiT
vTqvi, rom xom ar wavide
politikaSi-meTqi? Tumca adge da
waxvide, ar aris aseTi martivi. Sesabamisad,
daviwye kiTxva, gavecani
kanonebs da bevri saWiro informacia
miviRe. politikosad aravin
ibadeba da miT umetes, maJoritar
deputatobas ar sWirdeba didi
politikosoba. rasakvirvelia, Tavisi
politikuri orientacia unda
hqondes, magram adamiani, romelic
Suamavalia sakanonmdeblo organosa
da amomrCevels Soris, is Sei-
Zleba iyos mebrZoli. me kidev Cems
TavSi vxedav, rom mebrZoli adamiani
var, qveyanam icis, rom samarTliani
var da bevrma miTxra, Sen xar
iseTi adamiani, rom amas gaitano.
52 welia, saburTaloze vcxovrob,
am wlebis manZilze araferi Secvlila.
adamianebs, romlebsac vir-
CevT, 3 weli da 10 Tve yvelas vaviwydebiT
Cveni problemebianad. mere
isev es kampaniad wodebuli sirbili
da fotosesiebi iwyeba.
xom SeiZleba, weliwadSi erTxel
gamoCndes Seni ubnis deputati
da ikiTxos, Tu ra uWirs xalxs,
riT SeuZlia misi daxmareba. msgavsi
midgoma aravisgan gvigrZnia.
mere davjeqi, davfiqrdi da vTqvi,
_ ratomac ara-meTqi! me var saqar-
Tvelos moqalaqe, vgiJdebi Cems
qveyanaze, Cems qalaqze da modi,
movsinjav am yvelafers-meTqi. es
aris elementaruli: jdebi, swavlob
kanonmdeblobas, saparlamento
regulacias da avtomaturad
xdebi xidi xalxsa da sakanonmdeblo
organos Soris. ilias sityvebs
gavixseneb da vityvi, rom xidCatexilobaa
dRevandel dRes sakanonmdeblo
organosa da xalxs Soris.
Cven vuyurebT mxolod imas, Tu vin
rodis ra gaafuWa, ase movdivarT
mTeli cxovreba da xalxisTvis
araferi keTdeba. arc im politikosebis
mesmis, romlebic amboben,
_ Cven movalT, xelfasebs mogimatebT
da am gaWirvebidan gamoxvalTo.
veranairad gamovalT da ar
mjera aseTi sisuleleebis, radgan
ar SemiZlia, saxlSi mxarTeZoze
wamowolili viyo da viRacis dapirebis
amara vicxovro. ratom
unda daminiSnos xelfasi? wadi da
gainZeri. amitom gadavwyvite, _ me
viqnebi adamiani, romelic gaxdeba
despani da xmamaRla vambob, rom
rogorc ki Seval pirobiTad „cali
kaloSiT” parlamentSi damoukidebel
deputatad, aseve gamoval.
vTqvi, rom me yovelTvis mecleba
Cemi moqalaqeebisTvis da asec iqneba.
mTeli cxovreba isedac miCveuli
var, rom viRacisTvis raRacas
vakeTeb. wyali Camodis, _ Tamara!
raRac gafuWda _ Tamara! ko-
Rom ukbina, _ Tamara! da ratomac
ara?! mogexsenebaT, rom garkveuli
wlebis winaT Cemi qalaqis meezoveoba
mindoda da es iyo absoluturad
gulwrfeli survili, radgan
umuSevrad visxediT mTeli
ojaxi. es rom gaiges, sasacilod ar
eyo aravis, Sen ar unda dagavoo.
da ratom ar unda davgavo _ Cinmedlebi
CamomerTmeva, gvariSvilobas
davkargav Tu ra? rodemde
unda vicxovroT im azrovnebiT,
rom me es ar mekadreba? ratom?
Zalian kargadac mekadreba! ase
rom, gadavwyvite, yvelaferi
TeTri furclidan daviwyo.
_ pirveli nabijebis gadadgma
saidan daiwyeT?
_ daviwye yvelafris garkveva.
mivedi nomer mesame saolqo ubanze,
araCveulebrivi adamiani damxvda
ubnis Tavmjdomare da man miTxra,
_ qalbatono Tamar, saWiro
aris sainiciativo jgufis Camoyalibeba,
radgan Tqven partiidan
ar modixarT da damoukideblad
iyriT kenWso. zogadad, partiulobis
momxre ar var. Seikriba Cemi
xuTi megobari, dawera gancxadeba,
gaviareT ramdenime instancia, CavabareT
da miiRes gancxadeba. Semdeg
saWiro iyo xmebis mogroveba.
dRe da Rame viareT da sakmarisze
meti xma movagroveT. didi gulSematkivroba
vigrZeni xalxisgan. ar
movaduneb arc mosaxleobas da
arc xelisuflebas _ saburTaloelebi
aqtiurad CaerTvebian ubnisTvis
saWiro saqmeebis gakeTeba-
Si, mTavrobas ki aucileblad mouwevs
maTze zrunva. Cems kars eqneba
warwera: „sul mcalia Cemi moqalaqeebisTvis”.
am principiT vcxovrob.
_ ra iqneba Tqveni mTavari da-
pireba?
_ me viqnebi xalxis xma, romelic
yovelTvis gaaJRerebs maT problemebs
sakanonmdeblo organoSi.
_ rogor apirebT carieli xe-
lebiT politikur cxovrebaSi
`52 welia,
saburTaloze
vcxovrob da
araferi
Secvlila~
Cabmas? ar gagiWirdebaT? miT ume-
tes, ukve dawyebulia saarCevno
kampania, qalaqi aWrelebulia ua-
mravi baneriT, Tqveni ki ar momx-
vedria TvalSi. ratom?
_ me ar maqvs imis saSualeba,
rom saxlSi wynarad vijde da banerebi
davbeWdo, rom quCaSi roca
gamoxval, saxeze afarebuli gqondes.
amitom vfiqrob da varRvev im
stereotips, rom iqneb, ufulodac
SeiZleba saqmis keTeba. flaers
imitom ar vbeWdav, rodesac quCa-
Si daarigeb, viRaca aucileblad
Zirs daagdebs da Cems saxeze unda
iaron, es ki namdvilad ar minda da
is quCa mainc Cemi dasalagebeli
iqneba. am stiliT ar vapireb monawileobis
miRebas, uari vTqvi flaerebis
dabeWdvasa da aqamde aprobirebul
aqtivobebze. mxolod
protokolis gamo miwevs plakatis
dabeWdva da sul ramdenimeTi Semovifarglebi.
visi banerebicaa
gakruli, arc erTs ar vuyureb,
radgan Zalian daviRale mTeli cxovreba
erTi da igive saxeebis yurebiT.
Sedegs ver vxedav.
_ parlamentSi dRes sakmaod
bevri msaxiobi da momRerali
gvyavs. am realobidan gamomdinare,
ratom unda endos amom-
rCeveli Tamar mayaSvils?
_ profesiidan gamomdinare mekiTxebiT?
maSin, is miTxariT, ratom
unda vendoT politikoss?
adamiani politikosad ar ibadeba
da swored is msaxiobebi, momRerlebi
rom Sevidnen am parlamentSi,
araferi gaukeTebiaT. risTvis
Sediodnen, Tu arafris Tavi ar
hqondaT? Tavis dasaqnevad? nu
aqnev Tavs, Tu saqmis gamkeTebeli
ar xar. garkveuli wlebis winaT
Zalian bevrma partiam SemomTavaza,
rom maT gundSi vyofiliyavi da
mTel rig dafinansebas Sempirda,
magram uariT gavistumre yvela. ar
minda, viRacis mRaRadebeli viyo,
me neitraluri adamiani var, yvela
momwons da yvelas udides pativs
vcem, magram mikerZoebuloba
ar maxasiaTebs. swored es stereotipi
unda davarRvio, _ Tundac
100 kacidan 20 Tu mainc dainaxavs,
rom saqmis gamkeTebeli var, es
didi bednierebaa.
_ Tqven gaqvT sufTa warsuli
da xalxis Zalian didi siyvaru-
li, Tumca arsebobs konkurencia
da ar geSiniaT?
_ risi unda meSinodes? adamiani
unda iyo gulwrfeli da xalxi
yvelafers xedavs.
_ ra imedebi gaqvT?
_ ar vici, amas dro gviCvenebs.
me dRevandeli dRiT vcxovrob.
erTma Jurnalistma damireka da
aseTi kiTxva damisva: imitom xom ar
gindaT parlamentSi Sesvla, rom es
fulis Sovnis kargi saSualeba
ariso? vupasuxe, _ Tqven iciT ase-
Ti kargi gzebi-meTqi? me Tu umu-
Sevari var, es Cemi problemaa. Tqven
rogor ggoniaT, ar SemiZlia,
TeatrSi mivide da StatSi Cavjde?
magram ar maqvs magis aRarc dro
da aRarc nervi, simarTle rom
giTxraT. biWebi mezrdebian saxl-
Si, viRacisTvis Zalian sul erTia
es yvelaferi, wavlen, gavardebian
da martoebs toveben saxlSi, magram
me ar SemiZlia.
_ am periodSi Zalian bevri
„keTilismsurveli” „kritikosi”
gamogiCndebaT da ramdenad mzad
xarT am oromtrialSi Casab-
melad?
_ weron da ikiTxon. adamiani,
romelic 24 saaTi socialur qsel-
Si zis, e. i. man funqcia dakarga,
ar icis, riT gaixalisos cxovreba.
amas winaT quCaSi erTi qalbatoni
meubneba, ra gacinebso da
mere ise movefere im qals, rom
miTxra _ Sen gaixare, qalbatonoo.
ara uSavs, zogi ras getyvis, zogic
_ ras da rogor SeiZleba, yvelas
pasuxi gasce? _ piriqiT, moefere
da ise gauSvi. me roca karg
xasiaTze ar var, arc telefons
viReb, arc kars vaReb da oTaxSi
viketebi, radgan aravis sWirdeba
Tamar mayaSvili, romelsac zeTi
Camosdis. movsinjav, gamova _ gamova,
ar gamova da Cin-medlebic ar
CamomerTmevas.
_ damarcxebis SemTxvevaSi
gaagrZelebT politikur saqmi-
anobas?
_ aucileblad gavagrZeleb.
ufro mets vimecadineb.
_ ra aris is, rac gansakuTre-
biT gawuxebT?
_ yvelaferi mawuxebs: ubnis
mouvleloba, yofiTi problemebi,
magram yvelaze metad mawuxebs ganaTleba
da kultura. Cven CamovediT
ganaTlebis zRvars qvemoT.
Cveni qveyana saswaulad didi kulturis
matarebeli iyo da gardamaval
procesebSi am yvelafers
morgeba sWirdeba, ar unda vicxovroT
Zvel wlebSi, unda avyveT
Tanamedroveobas, ar SeiZleba
CavrCeT me-11, me-12 saukuneebSi.
_ ojaxis wevrebi rogor Sex-
vdnen Tqvens gadawyvetilebas?
_ sasacilod ar eyoT, magram
Cemi meuRle gia movida da miTxra:
nu usmen nuravis, Sen Tu ginda,
gaakeTeo. mosinje, aravis arafers
arTmev da aravin arafers garTmevso.
gaixaros gia yifSiZem da Cemma
ramdenime megobarma, romlebmac
miTxres, rom Cven raSic gamogadgebiT,
gverdiT dagidgebiTo.
_ ras etyviT Tqvens amomrCev-
els?
_ Cemi saxlis kari yvela moqalaqisTvis
Riaa. arTqmas Tqma
sjobs, arkeTebas _ keTeba da ardajerebas
_ dajereba.
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